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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: What do you mean Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By 7255: So there's currently help going to Ukraine, but I don't know that boots are being sent in. What do you mean I doubt TUAF600 and TUAF601 are filled with dandelions, falafel, and puppies 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:07:10 PM EDT
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I know the Uks (seemingly) don't want to fire the first shot and are still somehow hoping this doesn't happen, but all those Russian assets staged so close together at their jump-off points...Uks could deal some hurt with a pre-emptive strike.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:07:32 PM EDT
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I hope the Turks are indeed bringing in a shipment of weapons, not just evac'ing people out of the area.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:07:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PissedMick: Let's hope that many a Ka-52 gets a buttfucking from those. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: The US would tell them to pound sand. There is a chance,albeit small,that Poland will move to make sure Lviv doesn’t fall but again think that is very unlikely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'm late to this party. What I saw and read today was indicating the "Russian Separatists" in the Ukraine asked Russia for "help," and that's the pretext they're supposedly going to use. My question is, what if the Ukraine asked Europe/US/NATO for "help?" And we moved some troops into the country? Would Putin still go ahead? Just curious. I'm not as up on this as I should be. It's been a busy week trying to keep the power on at 0F. The US would tell them to pound sand. There is a chance,albeit small,that Poland will move to make sure Lviv doesn’t fall but again think that is very unlikely. 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: I doubt TUAF600 and TUAF601 are filled with dandelions, falafel, and puppies Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By 7255: So there's currently help going to Ukraine, but I don't know that boots are being sent in. What do you mean I doubt TUAF600 and TUAF601 are filled with dandelions, falafel, and puppies They won't send troops. If anything it's just materiel |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:09:17 PM EDT
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May 18th? 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bluegrasscardinal: Take us to DEFCON 3 Get onto SAC Tell em to flush the bombers! Seriously guys, we'll wake up in the morning to more "imminent" talk. Or not, we will see... You're probably right, Putin has never invaded another country before. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:09:42 PM EDT
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So is the invasion in an hour or two?
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: They won't send troops. If anything it's just materiel Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By 7255: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By 7255: So there's currently help going to Ukraine, but I don't know that boots are being sent in. What do you mean I doubt TUAF600 and TUAF601 are filled with dandelions, falafel, and puppies They won't send troops. If anything it's just materiel I mean, that's what I said? There's help, but it ain't people Boomie things are help. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: What do you mean |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smokey0844:
May 18th? That's, uh, a rather lengthy timeframe. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:11:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: War Thunder has made me hope they all die horribly. Germany suffers |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:11:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TripleC: So is the invasion in an hour or two? Definitely But also maybe 10 minutes ago. Or tomorrow Also possibly never. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:12:10 PM EDT
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MT, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:12:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: I know the Uks (seemingly) don't want to fire the first shot and are still somehow hoping this doesn't happen, but all those Russian assets staged so close together at their jump-off points...Uks could deal some hurt with a pre-emptive strike. I thought that too when i saw the pics on the news. 190,000 Russian troops amassed along the borders, in big groups. He who strikes first strikes best. It's a shame Ukraine doesn't have the capability. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prill64: Definitely But also maybe 10 minutes ago. Or tomorrow Also possibly never. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prill64: Originally Posted By TripleC: So is the invasion in an hour or two? Definitely But also maybe 10 minutes ago. Or tomorrow Also possibly never. HeCouldBeRightYouKnow.gif |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:13:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: That's, uh, a rather lengthy timeframe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: Originally Posted By Smokey0844:
May 18th? That's, uh, a rather lengthy timeframe. Peacekeeping doesn't just happen overnight, comrade. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: The Turks are cunts. There is a reason they were dropped from the F-35 program. And are/were cozying up to Russia for S-500’s. Maybe the Turkish relationship with Ukraine is more important than with Russia at the moment, but make no mistake. They are not close friends with the West either, much less the U.S., NATO membership notwithstanding. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By PissedMick: Originally Posted By Element94: Those A400 pilots have balls of titanium. Yeah, my opinion on Turks has gone up tremendously. The Turks are cunts. There is a reason they were dropped from the F-35 program. And are/were cozying up to Russia for S-500’s. Maybe the Turkish relationship with Ukraine is more important than with Russia at the moment, but make no mistake. They are not close friends with the West either, much less the U.S., NATO membership notwithstanding. This. I bet this is the communication that has gone on. Ergodan has a call to Putin. "Hey we have a lot invested in Ukraine". Putin, "Don't worry we will take care of you there, just do as little as possible with Nato" Nato to Turkey, "Hey you are a member and need to contribute". Now Turkey makes a decision to do the absolute minumum to satisfy Nato. Probably flying in humanitarian supplies, food, medical stuff. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: I know the Uks (seemingly) don't want to fire the first shot and are still somehow hoping this doesn't happen, but all those Russian assets staged so close together at their jump-off points...Uks could deal some hurt with a pre-emptive strike. They're in a damned if you do/don't situation. If they do then Russia get's it's reason for going full gonzo. If they don't Russia will still more than likely go in dry. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:15:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I hope the Turks are indeed bringing in a shipment of weapons, not just evac'ing people out of the area. Turks would do both, that way they can make money on the evac flight and the weapons! |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:15:41 PM EDT
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TripleC: So is the invasion in an hour or two? 9pm est if reports are accurate. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shenanigunz: Peacekeeping doesn't just happen overnight, comrade. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By 7255: Originally Posted By Smokey0844:
May 18th? That's, uh, a rather lengthy timeframe. Peacekeeping doesn't just happen overnight, comrade. They're gonna keep the peace so hard. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09: Yea Watched the Day After yesterday based on people talking about it in this thread. Awesome movie, but damn makes you think! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09: Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded: Do you know what would be nice? If we didn't still have thousands of nukes pointed at each other and the current situation not feeling like every god-damn WW3 movie and book ever made. When is the accident going to happen and our Mr. Potato head president has to make a judgment call? Just saying. Yea Watched the Day After yesterday based on people talking about it in this thread. Awesome movie, but damn makes you think! I also watched it last night. Too close to reality. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: They're in a damned if you do/don't situation. If they do then Russia get's it's reason for going full gonzo. If they don't Russia will still more than likely go in dry. Too late now anyway. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: They're gonna keep the peace so hard. Peace and Awe |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
They should destroy them and tear down the buildings. Don't leave shit for the russians to take |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09: Originally Posted By Amped: Link to that movie? I see day after tomorrow and some zombie flick  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hsSide question on "The Day After:" Right about the 1:50 mark (according to this Youtube upload) Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:18:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bikedamon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fastowl: I also watched it last night. Too close to reality. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fastowl: Originally Posted By stanprophet09: Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded: Do you know what would be nice? If we didn't still have thousands of nukes pointed at each other and the current situation not feeling like every god-damn WW3 movie and book ever made. When is the accident going to happen and our Mr. Potato head president has to make a judgment call? Just saying. Yea Watched the Day After yesterday based on people talking about it in this thread. Awesome movie, but damn makes you think! I also watched it last night. Too close to reality. Check out Threads, it makes The Day After look like Frozen. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255:
They're gonna keep the peace so hard. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Stingers from Latvia that arrived Tuesday https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/893E01C1-2A70-4700-A4FF-3DDA107EA0A0_jpe-2290771.JPG Not sure if I'd laugh or cry if Russia ended up with 87% of NATOs ATGMs and stingers
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:18:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: They're in a damned if you do/don't situation. If they do then Russia get's it's reason for going full gonzo. If they don't Russia will still more than likely go in dry. Nah. Their best chance is to walk away from the high value targets and get ready for insurgency. I'd be grabbing all the artillery shells and stashing them. They make great IEDs. Big mech armies with firepower want the weak power to go toe to toe. The Ukrainians need to start thinking like Muj. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: That means that at 3:59 AM local time, I'd have every artillery piece and missile within range firing on all known or suspected Russian positions, ships, rear base areas, and air fields. Why wait for the inevitable? You know what is coming. Strike first. Punch the son of a bitches in the mouth with your best swing. Make them react to you instead of the other way around. Knock them off balance. Fuck them up. Then move to a secondary position while they regain their bearings. Then hit the motherfuckers again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
That means that at 3:59 AM local time, I'd have every artillery piece and missile within range firing on all known or suspected Russian positions, ships, rear base areas, and air fields. Why wait for the inevitable? You know what is coming. Strike first. Punch the son of a bitches in the mouth with your best swing. Make them react to you instead of the other way around. Knock them off balance. Fuck them up. Then move to a secondary position while they regain their bearings. Then hit the motherfuckers again. That would be my thought as well Doesnt Ukraine have anyone in the political sphere that will stand by them? Everyone keeps saying they need to be seen as a victim by the world. Anyone who cant face reality and support them even if they took an offensive doesnt truly support them anyway. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Nah. Their best chance is to walk away from the high value targets and get ready for insurgency. Id be grabbing all the artillery shells and stashing them. They make great IEDs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Originally Posted By voodochild: They're in a damned if you do/don't situation. If they do then Russia get's it's reason for going full gonzo. If they don't Russia will still more than likely go in dry. Nah. Their best chance is to walk away from the high value targets and get ready for insurgency. Id be grabbing all the artillery shells and stashing them. They make great IEDs. They could probably just buy them from the Russian troops. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:21:28 PM EDT
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Comparing where TUAF600 is on the flight tracker and Google maps, it looks like she's back up to a service road that goes to a major road in Ukraine. E40 it looks like? So could be dropping off goods and getting people out on two cargo flights. It'll be interesting to see if they park 601 there, too.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TripleC: So is the invasion in an hour or two? 2 more hours |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: They could probably just buy them from the Russian troops. I saw on one of the news programs Putin is ready to call up the reserves for the counterinsurgency. I doubt that will go well. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:22:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Trucker convoy part 2:ukrainian boogaloo |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:23:37 PM EDT
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Man, Ukraine could really rain down some serious hurt on those mile long convoys of Russian troops stuck in traffic jams just across the border into Belarus. A mix of HE and submunition warheads from their BM-21, BM-27 and BM-30 rocket artillery batteries would turn those convoys into piles of scrap metal and hamburger. Yet they sit and wait. I'll be damned if I would just stand around while someone is tightening a noose around my neck.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:23:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: 2 more hours 37 min until 4 am in Kiev. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: Interesting, thanks for the feedback y'all. I know nothing of aviation. Silly me figured US military aircraft just did whatever the hell they wanted everywhere lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: Originally Posted By Boregonian: Originally Posted By Pshpin: Originally Posted By mokerr: Why can we even see the USAF aircraft over Ukraine? Is it a power projection, "hey we're fucking watching" type deal? Im not a military aviator, I just fly for fun but ill take a shot at a guess as to why. My guess is this is ADS-B data. Its very useful when you arent talking with ATC so you can still be aware of other aircraft (it works through GPS). My guess, is its on as a safety/courtesy for other aircraft operating outside of radar service areas (including mobile units), or without flight followings. Rules say you have ADS B on when flying in Europe and a lot of other places and for the time being the aviation rules aren’t thrown out the window for US forces. If US Military aircraft were flying without ADS B on it’s a signal that the rules are out the window and gives the Russians a potential excuse to intercept or take some action against them. No “innocent” excuse for the Russians to take action against them if they are squawking and following the rules of aviation. It may seem like a load of horseshit given that some stuff has started to kick off but unless the US military is actually going to start engaging expect to see US aircraft continuing to show up ADS B. Interesting, thanks for the feedback y'all. I know nothing of aviation. Silly me figured US military aircraft just did whatever the hell they wanted everywhere lol US military aircraft more or less follow the same rules as everyone else unless they are in some variety of special use airspace. Operating in foreign countries military aircraft are definitely going to play by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) procedures and definitely so when operating someplace like Ukraine at the moment. It’s a safe bet that US forces are going to be avoiding anything that the Russians could use to portray aircraft as taking aggressive action. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:24:45 PM EDT
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AK, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bluegrasscardinal: Take us to DEFCON 3 Get onto SAC Tell em to flush the bombers! Seriously guys, we'll wake up in the morning to more "imminent" talk. Or not, we will see...  |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: I'm late to this party. What I saw and read today was indicating the "Russian Separatists" in the Ukraine asked Russia for "help," and that's the pretext they're supposedly going to use. My question is, what if the Ukraine asked Europe/US/NATO for "help?" And we moved some troops into the country? Would Putin still go ahead? Just curious. I'm not as up on this as I should be. It's been a busy week trying to keep the power on at 0F. They have asked for help. Lots of times. Lots of times in the past, lots of times recently. It seems nato is fine with giving them some weapons but zero actual help. Because nato needs the russian fuel. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:25:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mnd6563]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjwill: They should destroy them and tear down the buildings. Don't leave shit for the russians to take Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjwill: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
They should destroy them and tear down the buildings. Don't leave shit for the russians to take I guess there is that 1% chance that Putin may be screwing with them and laughing as they blow up shit... But yea, at least fill the trucks ready to blow the runway if the attack comes. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:26:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
[#49]
34 minutes till nothing happens?
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:27:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Check out Threads, it makes The Day After look like Frozen. Exactly. Link posted a page or two back I think. |
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