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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:52:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyBroshankle: Nearing 1700! Yup, crazy isn’t it? I don’t think the beer flu thread hit 1700 this quickly. Onto Ukrainian victory!  ?.?????????? ?.???? ?.?????? ?.??????? ?.???? ?.?????? - ??????? ???????? #??????????????? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:52:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Heavy weapons being supplied to UA - list is below.
I'm thankful to NL for showing some fortitude and doing what many others should be doing. Hey Germany, how is it that the Netherlands has more balls than you now? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:54:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: I'm probably one of the most pro Trump non Americans on the planet but I think he judges this one incorrectly. He assumes Putin is acting like a rational buisness man when in actual fact Putin is engaged in a metaphysical battle against the West because he's gone slightly nuts for whatever reason. Slightly nuts? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:54:38 PM EST
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Roughly 12 Russian Orcs have died for every page this thread has gone
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:55:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: Roughly 12 Russian Orcs have died for every page this thread has gone  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:56:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Yup, crazy isn’t it? I don’t think the beer flu thread hit 1700 this quickly. Watching commie armor getting smoked is way more fun than the coof bullshit. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:57:07 PM EST
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So much this.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:57:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: I'm thankful to NL for showing some fortitude and doing what many others should be doing. Hey Germany, how is it that the Netherlands has more balls than you now? I'd like to see a list of NATO Countries or other Countries that have supplied weapons to help Ukraine. Don't think I've seen a list like that. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:57:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: A shitty Ukrainian drone from the 1980s flew across the air space of 3 NATO countries before crashing, all without anyone noticing.  It's nice to think about, but I think some of us are wishing for more WMD detection capability than we actually have, or what it might even be physically possible to do with the information. Example: a satellite detects a launch signature (big flash) from space. That's great, we know they are launching something. Do we have anything within 1000 miles capable of doing anything about it? Probably not. Up until these recent events, BMD has also been a lower priority. So we had better hope that their Strategic Rocket Forces are just as shitty as everything else, or we are in big trouble.  without anyone you know noticing. It is entirely possible that it was identified, tracked, and deemed not worth betraying capabilities over. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:57:59 PM EST
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More expected and terrible news from Mariupol.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:59:03 PM EST
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1700 has been reached
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKaTom: I'd like to see a list of NATO Countries or other Countries that have supplied weapons to help Ukraine. Don't think I've seen a list like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKaTom: Originally Posted By grambosc: I'm thankful to NL for showing some fortitude and doing what many others should be doing. Hey Germany, how is it that the Netherlands has more balls than you now? I'd like to see a list of NATO Countries or other Countries that have supplied weapons to help Ukraine. Don't think I've seen a list like that. Wiki has one, though I'm not sure how current. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 12:59:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2tired2run]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Truman_Sparks: Slightly nuts? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Truman_Sparks: Originally Posted By iggy1337: I'm probably one of the most pro Trump non Americans on the planet but I think he judges this one incorrectly. He assumes Putin is acting like a rational buisness man when in actual fact Putin is engaged in a metaphysical battle against the West because he's gone slightly nuts for whatever reason. Slightly nuts? Iggy apparently has a flare for understatement.  As to Trump it's his typical businessman personality, there is always a deal to be made. Hell he may even be right there is some sort of deal here this could be possible but I think he's wrong to say it publicly. The only response that should be coming from US leadership past and present is Russia needs to get out or get flattened. ETA:Oh and in on 1700 
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:02:36 PM EST
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:02:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Wiki has one, though I'm not sure how current. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:02:43 PM EST
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1700 says Pooty still has Little Man's Disease.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:03:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Yet people here shit on Trump for urging them to reach an agreement before everyone ends up dead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Originally Posted By Prime:
Yet people here shit on Trump for urging them to reach an agreement before everyone ends up dead. Rightfully so. Anyone who thinks any negotiations can be had in good faith with Russia is a fool, ignoramus, or a naif, IMO. Russia wants things that are unacceptable, if not outright devastating to Ukraine. Any negotiation is likely to be just a tactic to further Russian aims, including possible future aims to be achieved by military action. Negotiation at this point favors Russia and disfavors Ukraine. And nothing Ukraine seeks to achieve is acceptable to Russia. There is basically no basis for agreement, there is too much bad blood now (thanks to Russian mass murder, mass rape, mass torture, ethnic cleansing and deportation, etc.), and negotiations in and of themselves are to Russia's advantage. So the idea that there can be an agreement is silly at best. Ukraine needs to be in a much stronger position relative to Russia before negotiations are even worth considering. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:04:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWarstache is alive and well! |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:05:05 PM EST
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:06:05 PM EST
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:08:21 PM EST
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Chechens in the steel plant
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:09:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Southerners don't attend college? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By stgdz: Russia is full of dumbshits that make southerners look like college graduates. Fuck them and grind that country into dust economically. Southerners don't attend college? In fairness attending and graduating are not the same... but yeah, it was a dumb as comparison. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:09:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MostlyPeaceful: Eisenhower? I still have the I Like Ike pin my mother wore to school back then. Family has been R for generations. As Supreme Allied Commander he was very capable. As CIC (President)? Not as much - he could have prevented our Vietnam War but he capitulated to the French. Was he better than the current CIC, yes of course. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MostlyPeaceful: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By sq40: Trump is falling into the trap that will let the Democrats pound him as a Russian puppet again. “Collusion” charges will get backed up by statements like that, all over again. Maybe he can just go the fuck away finally then. What we need moving forward is another COMMANDER in chief. One akin to Eisenhower. Does one exist today? A strong military officer with a conservative mindset who can run as an R? Probably not Eisenhower? I still have the I Like Ike pin my mother wore to school back then. Family has been R for generations. As Supreme Allied Commander he was very capable. As CIC (President)? Not as much - he could have prevented our Vietnam War but he capitulated to the French. Was he better than the current CIC, yes of course. If he had provided more assistance to the French he could have prevented our future involvement in Vietnam. Of course, the Senate played a major role in how things went down. Suez alone, though, makes his administration condemnable from a foreign policy perspective. The world is still feeling the negative ripples from his response to that crisis. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:10:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: If you don’t understand why Ukraine cannot compromise on its territory then you simply have not bothered to understand the issues. This is a war for resources - economic, manpower, and natural. Eastern Ukraine is the industrial heartland and where most of the mineral resources lie. Furthermore, huge reserves of natural gas have been discovered under Eastern Ukraine and in the sea off Crimea. There is enough industry, mining, and energy to propel Ukraine into intergation with Europe. This is why compromise on these issues is national suicide for Ukraine. Russia wanted Ukraine’s manpower to add to their own dwindling demographics as well. Whether they get that or not is up in the air. If they can kill enough Ukrainians to convince them that to oppose Russia means national annihilation, then it is possible that Russia can force them into servitude. After killing a few million people, anyway. There are many recent examples from Russian history that this tactic works - Chechnya, Ukraine in the 30s/40s, Romania, Hungary, Finland, The Baltics, East Germany, I can go on. If we don’t support Ukraine now we will be fighting them in 10 years. Ukraine could, in theory, give up Crimea IF the mineral rights were stripped from it, but the Russians would simply slant-drill the gas anyway. They can’t be trusted to keep that arrangement. Russia also could not accept this because it would require giving up the 12-mile exclusion zone around its major naval base. Compromising their territory is national suicide for Ukraine, which of course is what Russia wants. Then they can say “we compromised” while sticking the knife in Ukraine’s back. Now I understand your posting history. You’re someone who has bought into the TRUMP! bullshit hook, line, and sinker. My dad’s the same way so I get it. It’s unfortunate because you have personalized his propaganda to the extent that you may never be free of it. He is the greatest enemy of American conservatism in our history - an utterly corrupt and compromised pied piper disguised as a revolutionary. I think you’re probably struggling with your admiration for Putin too, as you post almost exclusively Russian perspective/talking point videos. I will grant that you MAY be having second thoughts over this, with Putin’s actions showning him to be the Nazi maniac he is. Or maybe not - only you know that. And just so you don’t think I’m being partisan, I will publically admit that I got suckered by Putin too. In 2014, due to domestic political issues over Clinton/Obama etc, I at least partly bought into Putin’s propaganda regarding Ukraine. Then it fell mostly out of the news and I didn’t think about it for a while. When it started heating up again, fortunately I had wised up to the extent I did more of my own research and realized I’d fucked up. So it can be done. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By realwar: I agree, but in the statement Trump made I feel he is talking directly to Putin. Letting him know where he stands and he's willing to talk rather than fight for years to come and only death on both sides will be realized. You can fight a war for 20-30 years with no winners or you can sit down like men and talk it out. If Trump becomes President again Putin knows Trump would drop HAMMER on him so he would come to the table and negotiate (pull back forces). Meanwhile Ukraine needs to keep fighting hard and drive the orcs out and back into Russia but that doesn't mean Putin would end it there, he could still pull back forces and use tactical nukes on the Ukraine army as they advance closer to Russia's border wiping them all out, then push his forces back into Ukraine and head north to Kiev to take it. Lots of crazy things can happen.. If you don’t understand why Ukraine cannot compromise on its territory then you simply have not bothered to understand the issues. This is a war for resources - economic, manpower, and natural. Eastern Ukraine is the industrial heartland and where most of the mineral resources lie. Furthermore, huge reserves of natural gas have been discovered under Eastern Ukraine and in the sea off Crimea. There is enough industry, mining, and energy to propel Ukraine into intergation with Europe. This is why compromise on these issues is national suicide for Ukraine. Russia wanted Ukraine’s manpower to add to their own dwindling demographics as well. Whether they get that or not is up in the air. If they can kill enough Ukrainians to convince them that to oppose Russia means national annihilation, then it is possible that Russia can force them into servitude. After killing a few million people, anyway. There are many recent examples from Russian history that this tactic works - Chechnya, Ukraine in the 30s/40s, Romania, Hungary, Finland, The Baltics, East Germany, I can go on. If we don’t support Ukraine now we will be fighting them in 10 years. Ukraine could, in theory, give up Crimea IF the mineral rights were stripped from it, but the Russians would simply slant-drill the gas anyway. They can’t be trusted to keep that arrangement. Russia also could not accept this because it would require giving up the 12-mile exclusion zone around its major naval base. Compromising their territory is national suicide for Ukraine, which of course is what Russia wants. Then they can say “we compromised” while sticking the knife in Ukraine’s back. Now I understand your posting history. You’re someone who has bought into the TRUMP! bullshit hook, line, and sinker. My dad’s the same way so I get it. It’s unfortunate because you have personalized his propaganda to the extent that you may never be free of it. He is the greatest enemy of American conservatism in our history - an utterly corrupt and compromised pied piper disguised as a revolutionary. I think you’re probably struggling with your admiration for Putin too, as you post almost exclusively Russian perspective/talking point videos. I will grant that you MAY be having second thoughts over this, with Putin’s actions showning him to be the Nazi maniac he is. Or maybe not - only you know that. And just so you don’t think I’m being partisan, I will publically admit that I got suckered by Putin too. In 2014, due to domestic political issues over Clinton/Obama etc, I at least partly bought into Putin’s propaganda regarding Ukraine. Then it fell mostly out of the news and I didn’t think about it for a while. When it started heating up again, fortunately I had wised up to the extent I did more of my own research and realized I’d fucked up. So it can be done. Regarding your comment: "There is enough industry, mining, and energy to propel Ukraine into intergation with Europe." I just want to expand on this (again) because many here don't understand the strategic resources of Ukraine that Putin wants. Many here think that this war can be negotiated away and that is not true as: a) Russians/Muscovites have been fighting to erase Ukraine as a people for hundreds of years before the US was founded and b) Ukraine is one of the richest countries in the world as far as resources: How the nation of Ukraine ranks: 1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons); 2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves; 3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters) 4th in the world by the total value of natural resources; 7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons) Ukraine is an agricultural country (richest soil in the world): 1st in Europe in terms of arable land area; 3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume); 1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil; 2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports; 3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world; 4th largest producer of potatoes in the world; 5th largest rye producer in the world; 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons); 8th place in the world in wheat exports; 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs; 16th place in the world in cheese exports. Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people. [Russia's buddy China could use some of this...] Ukraine is an industrialized country: 1st in Europe in ammonia production; 2-е Europe's and 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU); 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants; 3rd place in Europe and 11 th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km); 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment; 3rd largest iron exporter in the world 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world; 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; 4th place in the world in clay exports 4th place in the world in titanium exports 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates; 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products; 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons). Information provided by the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America, Ukrainian World Congress |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:10:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wulfmann: In 6 years of war 52,000 British civilians were killed by all means of attacks on British soil. No one has all the numbers but as many as 2 million German civilians were killed by allied (US and UK) in WWII It is possible 10 times as many German children were killed than all British civilians combined Now in fairness because Germany built a tactical air force to support its military it never had the means to wage a war of terror on civilians and Nazis being Nazis if they had that capability they would have been just as heartless and ruthless as the allies but they did not intentionally build a military arm specifically to slaughter civilians like the US and UK did Should we be proud of that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wulfmann: Originally Posted By Stretchman: When we do it they call it genocide. When they do it, and the battle of Britain comes to mind, and the Blitzkrieg, it's incidental to close combat. In 6 years of war 52,000 British civilians were killed by all means of attacks on British soil. No one has all the numbers but as many as 2 million German civilians were killed by allied (US and UK) in WWII It is possible 10 times as many German children were killed than all British civilians combined Now in fairness because Germany built a tactical air force to support its military it never had the means to wage a war of terror on civilians and Nazis being Nazis if they had that capability they would have been just as heartless and ruthless as the allies but they did not intentionally build a military arm specifically to slaughter civilians like the US and UK did Should we be proud of that? Lol, wut? When the Germans invaded Poland, they attacked numerous towns in Poland with zero military significance (no garrisons, no defensive fortifications), intentionally targeting churches, schools, and hospitals with incendiaries. They again did the same exact thing when they invaded the Netherlands. Their entire methodology of war was to wage terror on civilians. They routinely, when rolling into a town, would round up boys over 14 and men and just shoot them in the east. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:10:20 PM EST
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:10:59 PM EST
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Clear video of strike in Lviv yesterday.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:11:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: I am really Fucking tired of a lot of things. Russian Sympathizers. Slow walking weapons. And defending Russian anything in general. Without heavy material Ukraine will loose this war and the orc gloating and posturing will never cease. We can all eagerly await the next country to be invaded in 5 or 10 years. Stop Fucking around and help, stop worrying about pissing off this faggot putin and his smirking faggot puppets like kadryov, or get out of the way and let them destroy Ukraine and whatever other nation is next. Ukraine has more balls than 60 percent of nato anyway. Perhaps too much. Imagine the most powerful alliance on the planet being scared of a bald, angry, little puke and what he might do with his third world arty slinging army and his shitty cold war nuke Saber. This. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:15:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: xmission]
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Nevermind. Looks like it stopped.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:17:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: hiyaboa]
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:18:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: So much this.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:18:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: It is frustrating seeing the back and forth on whether to give / let them purchase weapons. Seems like they're dragging their feet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
It is frustrating seeing the back and forth on whether to give / let them purchase weapons. Seems like they're dragging their feet. Maybe they're thinking they can get some US money out of it all? Ukraine buys their weapons using money they got from us? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:19:47 PM EST
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:19:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Chechens in the steel plant  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBho8VnyrPkBe a shame if someone ran a melt and accidentally tipped the ladle onto the lot of them. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:21:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Of course they're dragging their feet. Doing everything they can to stay in Russia's good graces while appearing to be the good little NATO member supporting Ukraine. Buncha pathetic cucks Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Of course they're dragging their feet. Doing everything they can to stay in Russia's good graces while appearing to be the good little NATO member supporting Ukraine. Buncha pathetic cucks And let's not forget Hungary (headline today): Hungary won’t allow arms transit to Ukraine - Szijjarto  Hungary does not support sanctions against the Russian Federation on oil and gas, and will not allow transit of weapons to Ukraine through its territory. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:22:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiyaboa: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/306429/0DFD14CC-0A3A-4D42-8F31-88DE488CB388_jpe-2354698.JPG Looks appetizing Happy Easter! There's a Fucking surprise. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:23:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Of course they're dragging their feet. Doing everything they can to stay in Russia's good graces while appearing to be the good little NATO member supporting Ukraine. Buncha pathetic cucks Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Of course they're dragging their feet. Doing everything they can to stay in Russia's good graces while appearing to be the good little NATO member supporting Ukraine. Buncha pathetic cucks Germany is probably 40% ethnically Russian after all the rape that happened at the tail end of WW2. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:23:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wulfmann: I know of one, my uncle John I have interviewed dozens of holocaust survivors. Take note of this. Russians killed more civilians than German ever did But, Germans have a conscience and to this day are making reparations Russians? Not a dime, no soul, dead between the eyes Japanese. Nothing, nada, don't care the round eyed big nosed bastards deserved it Likewise the British people once the terror bombing of German civilians became known the people were outraged. Psychologically that was the biggest defeat of WWII for the British people Spitfire pilots were heroes, bomber pilots were murderers and war criminals to the people. Bomber crews hid what they did in the war, they were hated and had the highest suicide rate of veterans in the UK Discussing this with a guy during the May 1995 50th in London he said his father was a navigator on a Lancaster He never told anyone and the guy never knew about it. His dad was a teacher and when his students dug up his past he was run out of the school. He committed suicide and that is how his son learned about his service Some nationalities have a conscience others do not IMO (Please note that) Russians have an empty soul unlike any other Caucasian nationality If you think you can appeal to their humanity you are mistaken Maybe in the commie education community. Everyone I've ever met or read thinks those bomber crews were heroic! |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:24:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BustinCaps: My guess is it will look bad for a couple days as supplied Russian forces move forward. Then they’ll overextend at some point. The key to russias success will be calling an operational halt in time to avoid the serious overextension they pulled off around Kiev, allowing Ukraine to destroy the floundering forward units. Russia needs to do short offensives followed by consolidation. That will chip away month after month. Sort of like island hopping, except instead of oceans between islands it’s a 10 mile logistic train leash. If they go to a monthly hop tempo with little bites they’ll be well on their way to consuming Ukraine by fall. Horrendous losses, but “victory”. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BustinCaps: Originally Posted By TylerF: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Starting to look bad in the east. Hopefully it's a rope a dope, but I have my doubts. A big breakthrough before that would be bad, as I don't think the UKRs have a lot of regular units left that are free enough to plug holes. A massed attack, over limited frontage reduces Russia's logistics shortfalls, and plays to their strengths in Artillery and heavy fires. My guess is it will look bad for a couple days as supplied Russian forces move forward. Then they’ll overextend at some point. The key to russias success will be calling an operational halt in time to avoid the serious overextension they pulled off around Kiev, allowing Ukraine to destroy the floundering forward units. Russia needs to do short offensives followed by consolidation. That will chip away month after month. Sort of like island hopping, except instead of oceans between islands it’s a 10 mile logistic train leash. If they go to a monthly hop tempo with little bites they’ll be well on their way to consuming Ukraine by fall. Horrendous losses, but “victory”. No. Eventually they will find themselves further into Ukraine and maintaining the security of the logistics tail will become impossible. If there goal is to seize and hold parts of Eastern Ukraine, possible. To consume Ukraine by the Fall, as in the entire nation? Not gonna happen. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:24:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Russia is full of dumbshits that make southerners look like college graduates. 
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:25:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: without anyone you know noticing. It is entirely possible that it was identified, tracked, and deemed not worth betraying capabilities over. Betraying capabilities? The undisclosed double plus ultra top secret air defense capabilities of Romania, Hungary, or Croatia? Right. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:26:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By meistermash: Lol bug juice. I forgot about that shit. Used to mix it strong and dip our brass shit in it before using never dull. The usn teaches everyone damage control and fire fighting. Russian s prolly only train their guys how to suck cocks and make bilge vodka. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By meistermash: Originally Posted By fadedsun: USN damage control is truly unequalled. The british were losing ships after one missile in the falklands. The Russians larger ships after two. The Usn be like: hold my bug juice Lol bug juice. I forgot about that shit. Used to mix it strong and dip our brass shit in it before using never dull. The usn teaches everyone damage control and fire fighting. Russian s prolly only train their guys how to suck cocks and make bilge vodka. It also is good for unclogging drains. The big problem the Brits had in the Falklands was their fire main on those ships was unified, so if the pipes were ruptured anywhere the system was useless. We have multiple mains that are cross-connected so one can route around damage. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:26:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKaTom: Oh boy here we go again! This thread just wow lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKaTom: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Common northerner misconception we're all just a bunch of ignorant hayseeds still using outhouses to them. Yet they all move here cuz the north is so great Oh boy here we go again! This thread just wow lol He fails to realize a lot of Midwest people are only one generation removed hillbillies from the south. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:29:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLook, somebody finally unleashed the Kraken!
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:31:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The end of the war was fine, but they fucked up the peace. WWII is the model for successful warmaking and peacemaking. First, grind the enemy to powder, then show them mercy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Wulfmann: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Russia needs to be defeated and its people humiliated and ashamed for generations. That is what the British and French decided to do to Germany in 1919. Let's do that! It worked out so well the last time The end of the war was fine, but they fucked up the peace. WWII is the model for successful warmaking and peacemaking. First, grind the enemy to powder, then show them mercy. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:35:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Hey man, nice shot.
Holy shit! Was that a tank or a SPAG? Seemed like a bigger boom than the usual tank. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:36:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Thread on reconstituting and refitting (lack thereof) russian forces for the battle of Donbas.
"The Russian offensive in the east is unlikely to be dramatically more successful than previous Russian offensives, but Russian forces may be able to wear down Ukrainian defenders or achieve limited gains. Russian forces did not take the operational pause that was likely necessary to reconstitute and properly integrate damaged units withdrawn from northeastern Ukraine into operations in eastern Ukraine. As we have assessed previously, Russian forces withdrawn from around Kyiv and going back to fight in Donbas have, at best, been patched up and filled out with soldiers from other damaged units, and the Russian military has few, if any, cohesive units not previously deployed to Ukraine to funnel into new operations.[1] Frequent reports of disastrously low Russian morale and continuing logistics challenges indicate the effective combat power of Russian units in eastern Ukraine is a fraction of their on-paper strength in numbers of battalion tactical groups (BTGs). Russian forces may certainly be able to wear down Ukrainian positions in eastern Ukraine through the heavy concentration of firepower and sheer weight of numbers, but likely at a high cost. A sudden and dramatic Russian offensive success remains highly unlikely, however, and Ukrainian tactical losses would not spell the end of the campaign in eastern Ukraine, much less the war as a whole. " |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 1:37:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Swampgrass: He fails to realize a lot of Midwest people are only one generation removed hillbillies from the south. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Swampgrass: Originally Posted By AKaTom: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Common northerner misconception we're all just a bunch of ignorant hayseeds still using outhouses to them. Yet they all move here cuz the north is so great Oh boy here we go again! This thread just wow lol He fails to realize a lot of Midwest people are only one generation removed hillbillies from the south. Hey, I'm part Ukrainian Boyko, Highlanders from the Carpathian Mountains- we are like the hillbillies of Ukraine!   |
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