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Posted: 7/29/2022 9:44:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
UA Foreign Minister
Hope Cossackgundi wasn't there 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 9:52:27 AM EST
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Germans once again doing German things
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/29/world/europe/europe-germany-ukraine-energy.html ]Dry Fountains, Cold Pools, Less Beer? Germans Tip-Toe Up the Path to Energy Savings Local leaders find themselves at the front line of Europe’s conservation efforts, fearing a Russian gas cut. It’s not an easy place to be. AUGSBURG, Germany — Wolfgang Hübschle went into city government expecting a simple life, planning things like traditional festivals replete with lederhosen. Instead, these days he has the unpopular task of calculating which traffic lights to shut off, how to lower temperatures in offices and swimming pools — and perhaps, if it comes to it, pulling the plug on Bavarians’ beloved but energy-intensive breweries. Municipal officials like Mr. Hübschle, the economic adviser to the provincial Bavarian city of Augsburg, sit on the front line of a geopolitical struggle with Russia since European Union leaders agreed this week to try to reduce natural gas consumption by 15 percent, fearing that President Vladimir V. Putin could cut exports in retaliation for Europe’s support for Ukraine. Frugality was huge in Germany and lots got comfortable ever since the wall fell. Going to be a lot of old timers coaching the youngsters. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 9:57:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Something @Aikibiker said bears fleshing out more. Logistics on the Ukr side. Granted, they have inside lines which is a huge advantage. But still we talk about: 12 Himars. 10 PzH2000 etc. etc. Influential, but not a drag on overall logistics TBH. But to build the total ground forces needed, to feed all that, repair/retrieve, move troops, etc. Their truck, fuel, etc. needs have gone to about 2000% of what they needed in Jan 2022. We've seen Zero discussion of contributions on that front; the simple number of 4x6's, humvees and fuel they need to support everything. Not that I don't think its not going on - but it's been on the QT. Where are all the trucks coming from? The fuel? The tires even? There has to be a massive log funnel going on that no one is talking about. One personal thing I've noticed - no C-17s on the west coast. I live about 6 air miles from the strip at JBLM/ex-McChord AFB. Home to about 50 C-17s. I haven't seen a single one since May. Last summer, I saw one to three a day. If you drove to Tacoma, just normal to see three in combat landing formation doing touch-and-goes. IDK how many are actually TDY elsewhere, but they aren't here and the amount of stuff they can move is astounding. When the full story of this war is written, there's going to be a lot of fascinating angles. The airlift campaign that is being performed is amazing! |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:07:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Veccio: It would have to be a large force if they wanted the Zap route to work but Russia would spot a build up that big. They would have to attack south from Zap, break through the RU lines, continue advancing south to Melitopol and still have sufficient mass to capture the town all on a very small logistics route. Not only would they have to do all that, they would then have to face off and defeat any counter attack from both flanks along their route of advance. I don't think its going to happen from Zap at this stage, it's just too big of a bite at once in this phase now that I actually stop to look at it and think. They could advance around Nova Kakhovka if they keep the RU forces bottled up on the other side of the river but even that isn't without some big risks. Maybe they push for a combination of the two? Based on FIRMS data they have been pounding the area between Nova Kakhovka and Melitopol pretty hard lately. I would love to see a glorious advance that cuts off a bunch of RU forces but maybe it really is as simple as they slowly push forces into Kherson. The Zap approach never looked good to me with the exposed flanks. It would be like doing what the Russian did at the beginning of the war. UA might do it better, but anchoring/protecting one flank using the Black Sea seems like a no-brainer. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:16:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Germans once again doing German things https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/29/world/europe/europe-germany-ukraine-energy.html ]Dry Fountains, Cold Pools, Less Beer? Germans Tip-Toe Up the Path to Energy Savings Local leaders find themselves at the front line of Europe's conservation efforts, fearing a Russian gas cut. It's not an easy place to be. AUGSBURG, Germany Wolfgang H bschle went into city government expecting a simple life, planning things like traditional festivals replete with lederhosen. Instead, these days he has the unpopular task of calculating which traffic lights to shut off, how to lower temperatures in offices and swimming pools and perhaps, if it comes to it, pulling the plug on Bavarians' beloved but energy-intensive breweries. Municipal officials like Mr. H bschle, the economic adviser to the provincial Bavarian city of Augsburg, sit on the front line of a geopolitical struggle with Russia since European Union leaders agreed this week to try to reduce natural gas consumption by 15 percent, fearing that President Vladimir V. Putin could cut exports in retaliation for Europe's support for Ukraine. Frugality was huge in Germany and lots got comfortable ever since the wall fell. Going to be a lot of old timers coaching the youngsters. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:39:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: The airlift campaign that is being performed is amazing! That's what we do better than anyone. One of the OSINT Twitter people did a write up showing how no country or bloc can move things like we do. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:00:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Almost like the U.S. government is trying to impersonate Russia for the J6 folks. Get that thought in American citizens minds and make some shut up because they're afraid. I think that basically every person who works for the government in D.C. really believes that the J6 rioters wanted to overthrow the US government and bring violence on every one of those people who work for the govt. Legislators, lawyers, cops, defense attorneys, judges, everyone of them. Every one of them believes it was a personal violent attack. And they are distributing "justice" accordingly. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:17:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Illegible_Signature: The Zap approach never looked good to me with the exposed flanks. It would be like doing what the Russian did at the beginning of the war. UA might do it better, but anchoring/protecting one flank using the Black Sea seems like a no-brainer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Illegible_Signature: Originally Posted By Veccio: It would have to be a large force if they wanted the Zap route to work but Russia would spot a build up that big. They would have to attack south from Zap, break through the RU lines, continue advancing south to Melitopol and still have sufficient mass to capture the town all on a very small logistics route. Not only would they have to do all that, they would then have to face off and defeat any counter attack from both flanks along their route of advance. I don't think its going to happen from Zap at this stage, it's just too big of a bite at once in this phase now that I actually stop to look at it and think. They could advance around Nova Kakhovka if they keep the RU forces bottled up on the other side of the river but even that isn't without some big risks. Maybe they push for a combination of the two? Based on FIRMS data they have been pounding the area between Nova Kakhovka and Melitopol pretty hard lately. I would love to see a glorious advance that cuts off a bunch of RU forces but maybe it really is as simple as they slowly push forces into Kherson. The Zap approach never looked good to me with the exposed flanks. It would be like doing what the Russian did at the beginning of the war. UA might do it better, but anchoring/protecting one flank using the Black Sea seems like a no-brainer. Normally I'd agree but we're talking about liberating friendly territory and, based on whatever limited/questionable info we have, a soft underbelly once you break through the lines in that area. If they do the Kherson trap right and trap all of those forces, there shouldn't be much threat to their Western flank pushing South. Not saying this is what will happen but to me it seems just as likely as any alternative that's been floated. That's assuming they have been building forces for a real offensive and not just treading water. Idk, some risk but I think they're going to have to be aggressive if they want to retake their territory.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYPK8TUXkAIKWnr?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Click To View Spoiler Icons https://www.battleorder.org/icons |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:20:43 AM EST
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I keep seeing post about Russian ammo depots being hit. Any count on the Russian depots hit in the last few weeks?
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:26:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: I keep seeing post about Russian ammo depots being hit. Any count on the Russian depots hit in the last few weeks? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: I keep seeing post about Russian ammo depots being hit. Any count on the Russian depots hit in the last few weeks? At least 50, and counting daily. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-it-has-destroyed-50-ammunition-depots-using-himars-war-with-russia-2022-07-25/ KYIV, July 25 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Monday its forces had used U.S-supplied HIMARS rocket systems to destroy 50 Russian ammunition depots since receiving the weapons last month. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:40:10 AM EST
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Igor Girkin assessment
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:43:07 AM EST
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https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/intelligence-russias-wagner-group-behind-attack-on-olenivka-penal-colony
Russia's Wagner Group behind attack on Olenivka penal colony According to Ukraine's Defense Ministry Intelligence Directorate, the explosion in a penal colony in Russian-occupied Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, was ordered by the owner of the Russian-controlled private military Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and was not coordinated with the Russian Defense Ministry. However, Ukraine's General Staff earlier said that Russia attacked the colony to destroy the evidence of torturing and killing Ukrainian POWs. According to the Prosecutor General's Office, around 40 Ukrainian prisoners of war were killed, and 130 were injured in the Russian attack on the Olenivka penal colony, where Russian proxies held the defenders of Mariupol who were supposed to be exchanged. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:48:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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FIRMS data from 5 hrs ago as of this post.  
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:58:45 AM EST
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:01:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:02:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:04:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: Vinnica massacre on July 14th, 2022  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfD63Jdz9PQThe 4-year old girl's name was Lisa. Her mother, 33 year old Irina, lost her leg, struggled for life for days and finally died in the hospital. https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4495149-v-vynnytse-umerla-mama-pohybshei-4-letnei-lyzy Russian rockets turn these: https://i.imgur.com/oUpQLvl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VuVxnsL.jpg into these: https://i.imgur.com/kAm0Xga.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hbGbz52.jpg The Orcs are self-evidently completely, irredeemably evil, 100 and 1% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzl-Lgo-OCMI had heard about this story, but wasn't aware that the mother died in hospital.  The Russians are going to be unpleasantly surprised if even a fraction of the Ukrainian people ever have an opportunity to take their vengeance. With so many stories like this, it's hard for me to imagine that there is room left in their hearts for anything except rage anymore. Pure speculation on my part, but I bet there is an entire generation of Ukrainian engineers, scientists, and business people who will make it their mission in life for Ukraine to become a nuclear armed state again, and I think there will be a few countries willing to help them. As rebuilding the country progresses, don't be surprised if we start to see space launch services, aerospace design and manufacture, and the nuclear industry all get an unusual amount of resources and attention. It won't be by accident. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:07:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I think that basically every person who works for the government in D.C. really believes that the J6 rioters wanted to overthrow the US government and bring violence on every one of those people who work for the govt. Legislators, lawyers, cops, defense attorneys, judges, everyone of them. Every one of them believes it was a personal violent attack. And they are distributing "justice" accordingly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Almost like the U.S. government is trying to impersonate Russia for the J6 folks. Get that thought in American citizens minds and make some shut up because they're afraid. I think that basically every person who works for the government in D.C. really believes that the J6 rioters wanted to overthrow the US government and bring violence on every one of those people who work for the govt. Legislators, lawyers, cops, defense attorneys, judges, everyone of them. Every one of them believes it was a personal violent attack. And they are distributing "justice" accordingly. They fucked around and found out. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:10:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: They fucked around and found out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Almost like the U.S. government is trying to impersonate Russia for the J6 folks. Get that thought in American citizens minds and make some shut up because they're afraid. I think that basically every person who works for the government in D.C. really believes that the J6 rioters wanted to overthrow the US government and bring violence on every one of those people who work for the govt. Legislators, lawyers, cops, defense attorneys, judges, everyone of them. Every one of them believes it was a personal violent attack. And they are distributing "justice" accordingly. They fucked around and found out. Preemptively speaking, can we not derail this thread with arguments over January 6th? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:12:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Exactly all that. The Russian culture needs to be destroyed. The sooner, the better. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:22:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Preemptively speaking, can we not derail this thread with arguments over January 6th? Understood. I don't mind reminders. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:24:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: GTLandser]
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Have we done this one yet?
VERY LONG and detailed thread about operations and maintenance of the HIMARS system:
ETA: now with unroll |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:26:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/intelligence-russias-wagner-group-behind-attack-on-olenivka-penal-colony Russia's Wagner Group behind attack on Olenivka penal colony You know god damn well the 130 injured are NOT getting any competent medical care for their wounds. I can’t hate these Orcs any more than I already do, but they are trying. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:28:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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This guy has been reporting Russian units and their positions.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:33:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: Vinnica massacre on July 14th, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfD63Jdz9PQThe 4-year old girl's name was Lisa. Her mother, 33 year old Irina, lost her leg, struggled for life for days and finally died in the hospital. https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4495149-v-vynnytse-umerla-mama-pohybshei-4-letnei-lyzy Russian rockets turn these: https://i.imgur.com/oUpQLvl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VuVxnsL.jpg into these: https://i.imgur.com/kAm0Xga.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hbGbz52.jpg The Orcs are self-evidently completely, irredeemably evil, 100 and 1% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzl-Lgo-OCMPlease don't post pictures like that. If you must post a link. I don't want to look at massacred children. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:37:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Please don't post pictures like that. If you must post a link. I don't want to look at massacred children. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: Vinnica massacre on July 14th, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfD63Jdz9PQThe 4-year old girl's name was Lisa. Her mother, 33 year old Irina, lost her leg, struggled for life for days and finally died in the hospital. https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4495149-v-vynnytse-umerla-mama-pohybshei-4-letnei-lyzy Russian rockets turn these: https://i.imgur.com/oUpQLvl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VuVxnsL.jpg into these: https://i.imgur.com/kAm0Xga.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hbGbz52.jpg The Orcs are self-evidently completely, irredeemably evil, 100 and 1% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzl-Lgo-OCMPlease don't post pictures like that. If you must post a link. I don't want to look at massacred children. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:37:34 PM EST
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NHK Japan piece showing how satellites are being used in Ukraine war. It's in English, but 50 minutes.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:39:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: NHK Japan piece showing how satellites are being used in Ukraine war. It's in English, but 50 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahbnVYro1G8NHK puts out good stuff. They've been part of my news crawl since I was young |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:45:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Have we done this one yet? VERY LONG and detailed thread about operations and maintenance of the HIMARS system:
I love this stuff so thanks for posting it. 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 1:04:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
UA Foreign Minister
Isn't this where cossack gundi is held
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Posted: 7/29/2022 1:30:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Homeade Ukrainian racing first person view suicide drone flies into house the Russians are using.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/wbb1yh/ua_suicide_drone_corrected_by_another_drone/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:01:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I love this stuff so thanks for posting it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I love this stuff so thanks for posting it. That was pretty neat. Question: do you have an idea of how accurate the inertial guidance system is vs the GPS in the event of jamming? Regarding satellites : WOW it does look like the Russians are threadbare. The best synopsis I found was from RFE - Radio Free Europe - which in the past I have found to have high journalism standards. They wrote an article on this exact subject in April. “In principle, Russia is already practically blind in orbit, " said Bart Hendrix, a Brussels-based analyst and expert on Soviet and Russian space programs. - Russia has a total of 19 remote sensing satellites - optical + radio signal surveillance (radar, etc) - Only two are optical, launched seven and nine years ago and likely wearing out - Optical resolution on them is 50cm/pixel, compared to 5cm/pixel on a current US Keyhole - The have only one confirmed radar satellite, launched in 2014 with an expected five year life-cycle (!) - They *might* have a new one as there was a launch of a military satellite 2/2022 ("Neutron") - capabilities unknown Besides surveillance, the GLONASS system is failing. It requires 24 sats to be fully functional, and they currently have 23 and about 1/2 of them are failing. The 2014 sanctions have prevented building more so the system is basically frozen in place as of 2014 and has been crumbling since then (thus the GPS units taped inside jets & helos). So basically, they may in fact be blind - little satellite capability and no aerial reconnaissance possible. I also don't think they have stand-off aerial ground surveillance capabilities like we do - Rivet Joint, AWACS, etc. Article (all key points are above): https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-satellites-ukraine-war-gps/31797618.html |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:09:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: You know god damn well the 130 injured are NOT getting any competent medical care for their wounds. I can’t hate these Orcs any more than I already do, but they are trying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Zam18th: https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/intelligence-russias-wagner-group-behind-attack-on-olenivka-penal-colony Russia's Wagner Group behind attack on Olenivka penal colony You know god damn well the 130 injured are NOT getting any competent medical care for their wounds. I can’t hate these Orcs any more than I already do, but they are trying. Believe me they are fucking Orcs. It’s the best fucking moniker ever. Russians from the deepest cracks of Central Asia, inbreed and fed a steady diet of pain, propaganda, and stronk juice for 500 years. Throw in the jealousy, once these guys see the average living condition in Ukraine and kill a few hundred of their “clan” and you get atrocities only Stalin and Hitler could jerk too. My answer: fight back, donate, help. Ukraine guys are fighting this thing with a severe lack of gear. It’s slowly improving but guys shouldn’t have to drive through withering artillery barrages in sprinter vans or wear 15lb soft steel plates for armor. You can help. I do, and I have three kids and a job. Used 4 years of vacation time to go and fight. USINUA.ORG |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:12:01 PM EST
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One of two guns going to UA soon.
More pics to follow. Not my paint job but a coproject, the Ukrainian diaspora is large and responsible for 60% of the gear getting over there. I’ll do a spec sheet once they are done.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:22:08 PM EST
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"Ukrainian Tank Crews Recount Battles From The Front Lines"  Ukrainian Tank Crews Recount Battles From The Front Lines |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:31:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: That was pretty neat. Question: do you have an idea of how accurate the inertial guidance system is vs the GPS in the event of jamming? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I love this stuff so thanks for posting it. That was pretty neat. Question: do you have an idea of how accurate the inertial guidance system is vs the GPS in the event of jamming? A good inertial system is part of making a good gps jam resistant product. Other things are done for the GPS receiver on the system to allow it to get a signal under difficult situations. If you have a shoddy inertial system in your missile, and its GPS is being jammed, it will miss by a larger margin vs having a better inertial system that has the GPS being jammed. I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope#:~:text=Various%20organizations%20worldwide%20subsequently%20developed,in%20excess%20of%2060%2C000%20hours Great tldr on the sattelite info, when you put that info together with the Russian nuclear bluffs it shows how pathetic and unprepared they are against our systems. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:38:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ... I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate.... That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:46:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ... I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate.... That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. The fact that a single MLRS round uses 3 laser ring gyros and 3 orthogonal accelerometers means it's pretty accurate even if it's being jammed.  This is for an aircraft. 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:50:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The fact that a single MLRS round uses 3 laser ring gyros and 3 orthogonal accelerometers means it's pretty accurate even if it's being jammed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ... I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate.... That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. The fact that a single MLRS round uses 3 laser ring gyros and 3 orthogonal accelerometers means it's pretty accurate even if it's being jammed. Even without jamming, GPS alone isn't appropriate for guiding a precision weapon. All the so-called "GPS guided" weapons are in reality using inertial guidance with GPS correction. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:51:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. I enjoyed that thread because someone finally explained what is in the sponson boxes on the HIMARS launcher. I used to wonder why we couldn't somehow cram 2 pods on the back of the HIMARS (aside from weight), but now it's clear to me just how much electronics is back there (which must be ruggedized and operate in much worse conditions than commercial electronics). And when it is something as dangerous as 6 giant rocket motors and their warheads, I kinda get why all that stuff is back there now.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 2:53:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By castlebravo84: Even without jamming, GPS alone isn't appropriate for guiding a precision weapon. All the so-called "GPS guided" weapons are in reality using inertial guidance with GPS correction. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ... I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate.... That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. The fact that a single MLRS round uses 3 laser ring gyros and 3 orthogonal accelerometers means it's pretty accurate even if it's being jammed. Even without jamming, GPS alone isn't appropriate for guiding a precision weapon. All the so-called "GPS guided" weapons are in reality using inertial guidance with GPS correction. You are certainly correct on that. We assume a GPS denied environment. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:05:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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18 filtration camps in Ukraine where people are being executed. 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:05:30 PM EST
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The Russian Embassy in Britain reveals plans to hang Azov Battalion fighters: "Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death"
If the Azov Regiment weren't already martyrs after Azovstal, they will be if the Russians go through with this. Behavior like this isn't going to cause the Ukrainians to stop fighting. In fact, I'd bet a good amount of money that it will have the opposite effect. It's just going to ensure that Ukrainian soldiers fight harder, don't surrender, and likely fuck up Russian prisoners in response. I wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier captured by Ukrainian partisans in the coming months, I'll tell you that. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:06:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: BigGrumpyBear]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: You know god damn well the 130 injured are NOT getting any competent medical care for their wounds. I can’t hate these Orcs any more than I already do, but they are trying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Zam18th: https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/intelligence-russias-wagner-group-behind-attack-on-olenivka-penal-colony Russia's Wagner Group behind attack on Olenivka penal colony You know god damn well the 130 injured are NOT getting any competent medical care for their wounds. I can’t hate these Orcs any more than I already do, but they are trying. My mother very rarely swore, but she she always said those God Damned Germans or those God Damned Japs up until the early 2010's. She carried a white hot hatred of them until she mellowed in her 80's, when it became just hatred. I expect a lot of Ukrainians are going to go down the same path after this war. Edit for spelling |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:13:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dracster]
[#45]
North Macedonia is reportedly sending some or all of their 31 T-72A to Ukraine.
Link  Attached File Колона танків Т-72 у Північній Македонії. Липень 2022 |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:13:29 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I love this stuff so thanks for posting it. Agreed. One of my professors was involved in the Inertial Navigation Systems involved in the Minuteman missiles. Seeing how things have progressed is interesting. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:22:41 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I think that basically every person who works for the government in D.C. really believes that the J6 rioters wanted to overthrow the US government and bring violence on every one of those people who work for the govt. Legislators, lawyers, cops, defense attorneys, judges, everyone of them. Every one of them believes it was a personal violent attack. And they are distributing "justice" accordingly. I think most of them know it was just a rally that turned rowdy. Some probably know exactly how it became a "riot". Fucking Code Pink and the pro abortion nuts do shit almost as bad but everyone smiles and waves. The dems are trying to consolidate power and know they are illegitimate, operating against the wishes and best interests of the American people. So they MUST shut down any dissent or they will have it up their asses. So I would put Putin and his cronies in a similar spot as our own dem politicians. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:24:15 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Hope Cossackgundi wasn't there Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
UA Foreign Minister
Hope Cossackgundi wasn't there One of the victims has already been ID'd/recognized by his arm tatoo. He was shown in one of the surrender videos posted. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:31:53 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By castlebravo84: Even without jamming, GPS alone isn't appropriate for guiding a precision weapon. All the so-called "GPS guided" weapons are in reality using inertial guidance with GPS correction. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ... I cant comment on the accuracy, but laser ring gyros are pretty accurate.... That was particularly what I was marveling at. The image of the laser ring gyros that were 3/4" on a side (in the twitter thread). Amazing tech compared to the Cold War era stuff. The fact that a single MLRS round uses 3 laser ring gyros and 3 orthogonal accelerometers means it's pretty accurate even if it's being jammed. Even without jamming, GPS alone isn't appropriate for guiding a precision weapon. All the so-called "GPS guided" weapons are in reality using inertial guidance with GPS correction. US ones are, some non US made coordinated seeking weapons are ballistic GPS update. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:38:24 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: I enjoyed that thread because someone finally explained what is in the sponson boxes on the HIMARS launcher. I used to wonder why we couldn't somehow cram 2 pods on the back of the HIMARS (aside from weight), but now it's clear to me just how much electronics is back there (which must be ruggedized and operate in much worse conditions than commercial electronics). And when it is something as dangerous as 6 giant rocket motors and their warheads, I kinda get why all that stuff is back there now. Also remember that military electronics are old by the time they are in a procured system and they aren’t replaced every three years like computers. |
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