Originally Posted By Evil_Chaos:
What do you think the price of this is "off the lot?"
ETA: Maybe we could do a group buy for a package deal on this and the superbonker 9000

#Russia #Ukraine \uD83C\uDDF7\uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6: #Ukrainian combatants released a new video with an improvised MLRS —which is locally called "Banderomobile" by some of the combatants.

The MLRS is used to fire 80mm S-8 rockets against #Russian positions at short range (3-5km). pic.twitter.com/NdKMsbHw4J

— War Noir (@war_noir) September 24, 2022

Originally Posted By sq40:


Thanks for that.

That's a really tough fight.  With the Russian artillery active, and them having their backs against the river they can't cross, it's a real deal siege and assault with peer parity.  It seems that they will be stalemated through winter.

Originally Posted By anonimovaca:


I am not saying that Kherson is not desirable for Ukraine, but asking if the territory gained in Kherson is worth the casualties (which are reported to be high).

If Russia is going to have trouble resupplying Kherson, why throw a bunch of manpower directly assaulting it?

Ukraine seems to be able to hit anything in the region with HIMARS.

Originally Posted By stone-age:


I also find it strange that Ukraine seems to be clawing forward while taking losses. They have proven to fight smart, there must be a bigger reason than just taking ground. Maybe they need this ground to put the himars in range of something very important.

Certainly, we agree, but the situation in war will resemble that of two men fighting under similar conditions, such as in the dark, wherein a man can only locate and reconnoitre his enemy by actually touching and feeling him. Thus the man-in-the-dark resembles the commander in modern war. Let us examine the correct principles of action which a man seeking to attack an enemy in the dark would naturally adopt.

"The Man Fighting in the Dark."
1.     In the first place he must seek his enemy. Therefore, the man stretches out one arm to grope for his enemy, keeping it supple and ready to guard himself from surprise.

This may be termed the principle of "protective formation."

2.     When his outstretched arm touches his enemy, he would rapidly feel his way to a highly vulnerable spot, such as the latter's throat.

This is the principle of "reconnaissance."

3.     The man will then seize his adversary firmly by the throat, holding him at arm's length so that the latter can neither strike back effectively, nor wriggle away to avoid or parry the decisive blow.

This is the principle of "fixing."

4.     Then while his enemy's whole attention is absorbed by the menacing hand at his throat, with his other fist the man strikes his opponent from an unexpected direction in an unguarded spot, delivering out of the dark a decisive knock-out blow.

This is the principle of "decisive manoeuvre."

5.     Before his enemy can recover the man instantly follows up his advantage by taking steps to render him finally powerless.

This is the principle of full and immediate "exploitation" of success.

To follow these principles is the only sure path to victory. We can only neglect the fixing phase, if our enemy commits some mistake, such as the neglect of his own security, by which he fixes himself without our intervention and so exposes himself to our decisive blow.

Now the whole action of our man-in-the-dark can be simplified into two categories:—

Guarding and Hitting.

The man guards against two dangers. Firstly, that of personal injury from the enemy's blows; secondly, that the enemy may avoid his knock-out blow, and thus cause him to overbalance.

The man guards against these two dangers by extending one arm in front of him ready to parry and take the sting out of any blow aimed at his body; by using this arm to grope for and feel the enemy; and, finally, when he has located the enemy, by seizing the enemy so firmly at a spot (the throat) so vital that he will be forced to concentrate all his energy on its defence.

All these actions have a common object, and therefore may be grouped under one principle, termed "security."

When the man has fixed his enemy, he delivers a decisive knockout blow. It will be obvious that the harder this blow the more likely it is to be decisive. Hence the man must put his maximum possible force into it, while he only uses the necessary minimum of strength to carry out the preparatory operations. This is the principle of "Economy of Force." But the man can increase the effect of his available strength by surprising the enemy; by his speed; by the momentum or "follow through" behind his blows; by striking his opponent's most vulnerable spots; by full exploitation of every opening or advantage; by husbanding his energy; and by moving his limbs and muscles in harmony like the parts of a well-oiled machine. All these are means to promote economy of force, and therefore can be grouped under that principle.

Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Meanwhile in Iran.

Iran tonight \uD83D\uDD25 pic.twitter.com/xwo7SLXK9W

WorldOnAlert  (@worldonalert) September 24, 2022

Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


lol, I up my order for a T-80, those have to only be $15,000

Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Until they get away from the glam video, the thing doesn't work

Run actual multiple tests

Originally Posted By anonimovaca:


Why is Ukraine advancing at all though? Do they really need to take territory before the October rains? Ukraine isn’t taking back that much territory, why should hundreds of men die and dozens of vehicles be destroyed for not much land gained?

Maybe Ukraine was trying to cause another mass Russian retreat before the sham referendums. But everyone already knows they are a sham, except for pro-Russians. Doesn’t seem worth it to me to have men die just to disrupt a referendum that doesn’t matter anyway.

Originally Posted By Zam18th:

When does Ben's flight leave for Poland?