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Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


You aren't the only one thinking that.


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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

What?

We didn't have the manpower to catch you at the border... but soon we will invade another country to get you back.
Because guys that just dumped their whole life to avoid something means they will be good at it?

The whole "people fleeing" thing sounds more and more like a cover.


You aren't the only one thinking that.




Paging captain Obvious…
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:08:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:



This shit of all russians surrendering and retreating is probably a lot of BS. I bet there are plenty that HATE UKR by this point and will happily fight like this.
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Dude has guts



This shit of all russians surrendering and retreating is probably a lot of BS. I bet there are plenty that HATE UKR by this point and will happily fight like this.

Literally nobody said all Russians are surrendering and retreating, but you can look at a map and understand that quite a lot have done one or the other.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:09:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By torstin:


"We go outside to shit and piss." ...rather than clean up the toilets. An entire building full of men and that is the solution they come up with.


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Originally Posted By torstin:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


"We go outside to shit and piss." ...rather than clean up the toilets. An entire building full of men and that is the solution they come up with.


I'd be the one cleaning up the place, yelling at everyone to help

And then ditch out
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:15:46 AM EDT
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There is an entire FM series dedicates to making proper facilities out in the field.

Ask me how I know..being hooah. Essayons.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:16:11 AM EDT
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Poor robot self disassembled rather than help Russians.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:22:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
There is an entire FM series dedicates to making proper facilities out in the field.

Ask me how I know..being hooah. Essayons.
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Bold of you to assume the Russian conscripts know how to read
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:22:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

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A for effort.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:23:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Taboot:
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd0rcsEWAAclkJx?format=jpg&name=small
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:24:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

Poor robot self disassembled rather than help Russians.
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Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:24:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

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But technically the mine is cleared.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:26:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:

A Russian style conscripted army, sure. South Korea, for example, also has a conscripted army and while I'm certainly no expert, I think they could only do a better job of it than this cluster fuck.
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
This war certainly destroys the case for a conscripted army.


A Russian style conscripted army, sure. South Korea, for example, also has a conscripted army and while I'm certainly no expert, I think they could only do a better job of it than this cluster fuck.


lol, you have a point there, perhaps my statement had too broad of a brush.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:32:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



Makes sense as that's the basis of the Russian government.
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.



Makes sense as that's the basis of the Russian government.


Russia’s model of governance is akin to that of a street gang or a mafia family. So was the Third Reich, if you look beyond the uniforms and propaganda.

Watch the old Star Trek episode “Patterns of Force”. It shows exactly what happens when you try to run a government like this without the people skills to manage one’s lieutenants.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:33:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd0rcsEWAAclkJx?format=jpg&name=small
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
Damn 7' tall and 328 lbs.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:38:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd0rcsEWAAclkJx?format=jpg&name=small
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
Literally.  7'0" 328lbs.  

High Valuev target.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:39:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hking:


Bold of you to assume the Russian conscripts know how to read
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Originally Posted By Hking:
Originally Posted By Jozsi:
There is an entire FM series dedicates to making proper facilities out in the field.

Ask me how I know..being hooah. Essayons.


Bold of you to assume the Russian conscripts know how to read



Amist all of the beatings, rapes,  thuggery of the NCO and borscht eating vodka drinking officer class, one still has to give the benefit of the doubt for Ryadovóy Chonkin.

Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:40:11 AM EDT
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https://see.news/s-korea-to-send-weapons-worth-2-9-bln-to-ukraine/

The price for these supplies, which will be one of the largest during the conflict in Ukraine, will be paid by the US side, and the weapons will be delivered to one of the Czech arms companies, then they will be transferred as a gift to Ukraine.
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Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:40:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Zeihan with another video, this one on Russian mobilisation efforts and their lack of manpower.

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Fuck this biased ass. He constantly speaks on subjects he has little grasp of.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:41:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:43:02 AM EDT
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A visit from fat Steve... sign me the fuck up
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:48:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

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That is so messed up.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:53:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CenterMass762:


Isn't Russia second world? I thought they were second world-6 and anyone aligned with them is second world by that alignment. Maybe the meaning has changed.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



I honestly wonder what happened to common sense in this day and age.  Is common sense a superpower now?
No, but Russia is third world.


Isn't Russia second world? I thought they were second world-6 and anyone aligned with them is second world by that alignment. Maybe the meaning has changed.

Based on the original cold War definitions, you are correct. The current definitions have shifted to be more economic in nature. I don't know if Russia is officially labeled third world now, but the argument could certainly be made that it is.
https://borgenproject.org/definition-of-a-third-world-country/
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:57:24 AM EDT
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Excellent news, especially on the Su-25s.  I wonder what they hit them with?
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:00:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By absael:
Excellent news, especially on the Su-25s.  I wonder what they hit them with?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Excellent news, especially on the Su-25s.  I wonder what they hit them with?
With the huge spike in shootdowns lately I'm thinking that the NASAMS have arrived . . .

Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:10:50 PM EDT
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These people really are animals.


Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:12:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_:
With the huge spike in shootdowns lately I'm thinking that the NASAMS have arrived . . .

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Originally Posted By absael:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Excellent news, especially on the Su-25s.  I wonder what they hit them with?
With the huge spike in shootdowns lately I'm thinking that the NASAMS have arrived . . .


It could also just be the arrival of actual trained personnel. Big difference between "Here's a manual and a weapon" and "Here's a guy that's spent a month training and a weapon."

We've also had some time to look at the counter measures they had and circumvent them
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:14:14 PM EDT
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"He never was my favorite anyway."

There's a morale booster
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:17:20 PM EDT
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
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By Tessaron, September 29, 2022 11:11 am

A Johns Hopkins Doctor and her U.S. Army Major spouse, who is also a doctor, have been indicted for attempting to sell medical information of U.S. military personnel to Russia. Those people include Intelligence Community members who are assisting Ukrainian military wounded in U.S. hospitals in Germany.

From the Baltimore Banner: “Anna Gabrielian (1st picture) and Jamie Lee Henry (second picture), who had a secret security clearance as a doctor at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, communicated and met with an undercover FBI agent who they believed was from the Russian embassy, offering sensitive medical information on military members and their family, the indictment alleges.”



Major Jamie Lee Henry is also the first publicly out transgender active U.S. Army Officer. In her interview in 2015 by Buzzfeed she said “”People say, ‘Is this a choice?’ The choice is being healthy or sick. I can continue living a sick life, or I can live a healthy life.”

From the Baltimore Banner: “During an Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that “she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.”

Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel.

“My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I’m able to help as much as I want,” Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. “At that point, I’ll have some ethical issues I’ll have to work through.”
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
By Tessaron, September 29, 2022 11:11 am

A Johns Hopkins Doctor and her U.S. Army Major spouse, who is also a doctor, have been indicted for attempting to sell medical information of U.S. military personnel to Russia. Those people include Intelligence Community members who are assisting Ukrainian military wounded in U.S. hospitals in Germany.

From the Baltimore Banner: "Anna Gabrielian (1st picture) and Jamie Lee Henry (second picture), who had a secret security clearance as a doctor at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, communicated and met with an undercover FBI agent who they believed was from the Russian embassy, offering sensitive medical information on military members and their family, the indictment alleges."



Major Jamie Lee Henry is also the first publicly out transgender active U.S. Army Officer. In her interview in 2015 by Buzzfeed she said ""People say, 'Is this a choice?' The choice is being healthy or sick. I can continue living a sick life, or I can live a healthy life."

From the Baltimore Banner: "During an Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that "she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail."

Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel.

"My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I'm able to help as much as I want," Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. "At that point, I'll have some ethical issues I'll have to work through."

Holy shit. Some "healthy life" ..."she" was leading. Medical information for US troops?
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:28:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

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 That's the biggest "fuck you" to a conscript since the French knights rode down their own troops during Crecy.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:29:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_:
With the huge spike in shootdowns lately I'm thinking that the NASAMS have arrived . . .
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Or simpler explanation - ,ussia using aviation to substitute/augment artillery strikes. Considering UAF keeps destroying ammo depots - usage of aviation instead - seems to be viable solution.
With more air strike attempts from ,ussia and existing concentration of MANPADS in UAF hands , result is expected - more birdies falling down.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:37:14 PM EDT
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Are depth charges still a thing?
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Yes, although usually they're more like rocket propelled hedgehog things that fly up into the air and shoot down into the water. Or missiles that drop torpedos on parachutes.

I think conventional "Exploding barrels dropped over the side/rear" might still exist though.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:38:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd1NvO7aIAALvX1?format=png&name=small

https://see.news/s-korea-to-send-weapons-worth-2-9-bln-to-ukraine/

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South Korea owes Russia a little pain for the Korean War.

Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:38:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_:
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Another possibility, Russian air force is on a mission to find and destroy HIMARS and fly sorties into heavily defended areas.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:42:19 PM EDT
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What's his deal, anyway? Why is he so interested in being on the losing side here?
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:45:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:

What's his deal, anyway? Why is he so interested in being on the losing side here?
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

A visit from fat Steve... sign me the fuck up

What's his deal, anyway? Why is he so interested in being on the losing side here?

Putin collects paid muppets and loves his western war movies.
My guess is that Ptheven Pthgal is making more money snorking around in his fat coat than he did making actual movies.
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I bet you he intentionally got obese so he could say "I can't because I'm fat" if someone wanted to try him on.
"30 years ago I could have whipped you ass sonny boy. Today, I like to eat more than fight."
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:47:32 PM EDT
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
By Tessaron, September 29, 2022 11:11 am

A Johns Hopkins Doctor and her U.S. Army Major spouse, who is also a doctor, have been indicted for attempting to sell medical information of U.S. military personnel to Russia. Those people include Intelligence Community members who are assisting Ukrainian military wounded in U.S. hospitals in Germany.

From the Baltimore Banner: "Anna Gabrielian (1st picture) and Jamie Lee Henry (second picture), who had a secret security clearance as a doctor at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, communicated and met with an undercover FBI agent who they believed was from the Russian embassy, offering sensitive medical information on military members and their family, the indictment alleges."



Major Jamie Lee Henry is also the first publicly out transgender active U.S. Army Officer. In her interview in 2015 by Buzzfeed she said ""People say, 'Is this a choice?' The choice is being healthy or sick. I can continue living a sick life, or I can live a healthy life."

From the Baltimore Banner: "During an Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that "she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail."

Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel.

"My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I'm able to help as much as I want," Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. "At that point, I'll have some ethical issues I'll have to work through."
She says "My point of view is . . . "

Your point of view ends where your oath begins.  Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:51:43 PM EDT
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Funny conscription story from a small town.

My wife has a close friend who's cousin is 38 or so, and a real big guy. Police came to serve papers, and he fought them- beat them so badly they had to call more (keep in mind most cops are not walking around with riot gear and such). These guys finally subdued him and put him on a bus, he yelled out the door that he would survive the war and come back and kill them all. Well, the "recruiting" office found him unfit for duty, so he went back to his town and burned down the small police station

I don't know if all the details are true here, but I want to believe and it's a good story anyway lol.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:52:22 PM EDT
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These people really are animals.


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I would be a shame if somebody decides to mobilize both of them.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:53:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

"He never was my favorite anyway."

There's a morale booster
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By ludder093:
These people really are animals.



"He never was my favorite anyway."

There's a morale booster


A strange attitude to be certain but what she said and what the tweet claims she said are not the same thing.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:58:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

Putin collects paid muppets and loves his western war movies.
My guess is that Ptheven Pthgal is making more money snorking around in his fat coat than he did making actual movies.
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I bet you he intentionally got obese so he could say "I can't because I'm fat" if someone wanted to try him on.
"30 years ago I could have whipped you ass sonny boy. Today, I like to eat more than fight."
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

A visit from fat Steve... sign me the fuck up

What's his deal, anyway? Why is he so interested in being on the losing side here?

Putin collects paid muppets and loves his western war movies.
My guess is that Ptheven Pthgal is making more money snorking around in his fat coat than he did making actual movies.
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I bet you he intentionally got obese so he could say "I can't because I'm fat" if someone wanted to try him on.
"30 years ago I could have whipped you ass sonny boy. Today, I like to eat more than fight."

Be a shame if any HARM came to Phat Steven.

Terrible shame.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 1:03:12 PM EDT
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Literally.  7'0" 328lbs.  

High Valuev target.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd0rcsEWAAclkJx?format=jpg&name=small
He looks like a Russian gangster character from a video game.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

This guy is a huge target.
Literally.  7'0" 328lbs.  

High Valuev target.

per wiki nicknames:Beast from the East
The Russian Giant
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 1:03:15 PM EDT
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Well, the US could be an energy exporter again, if politics and policies changed.
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The only intentional sabotage scenario that makes sense to me would be action by a party with a vested interest in making sure the EU doesn't buckle and given in to Russia on the demand to stop military aid in exchange for gas.

In my mind the most likely scenario is some bizarre fuckup due to incompetence.

If pressure remained at 7 bar or above, there should not be much seawater intrusion. pressure at 50 meters is 5 bar.

The only remotely plausible play I can think of outside of an accident is that the US did it response to mobilization.


Didn't some politician warn Russia that they'd make sure the Nordstream would never carry gas if X happened? Sorry I can't remember the details, but I seem to remember this from earlier in the thread.


Well, the US could be an energy exporter again, if politics and policies changed.



It could lead to be nationwide drops in gas prices... just time for midterm voting...
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Hopefully all made in USA.

US Military Industrial Complex money printer go brrrrrrrtttttt.
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
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First Out Transgender U.S. Army Officer Indicted for Treason, Selling Information to Russia
By Tessaron, September 29, 2022 11:11 am

A Johns Hopkins Doctor and her U.S. Army Major spouse, who is also a doctor, have been indicted for attempting to sell medical information of U.S. military personnel to Russia. Those people include Intelligence Community members who are assisting Ukrainian military wounded in U.S. hospitals in Germany.

From the Baltimore Banner: “Anna Gabrielian (1st picture) and Jamie Lee Henry (second picture), who had a secret security clearance as a doctor at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, communicated and met with an undercover FBI agent who they believed was from the Russian embassy, offering sensitive medical information on military members and their family, the indictment alleges.”



Major Jamie Lee Henry is also the first publicly out transgender active U.S. Army Officer. In her interview in 2015 by Buzzfeed she said “”People say, ‘Is this a choice?’ The choice is being healthy or sick. I can continue living a sick life, or I can live a healthy life.”

From the Baltimore Banner: “During an Aug. 17 meeting in a Baltimore hotel room, Gabrielian told the undercover agent that “she was motivated by patriotism toward Russia to provide any assistance she could to Russia, even if it meant being fired or going to jail.”

Her spouse had access to not just medical information, she said, but insight into how the U.S. military establishes an army hospital in war conditions and about training the military provided to Ukrainian military personnel.

“My point of view is until the United States actually declares war against Russia, I’m able to help as much as I want,” Henry told the undercover agent, according to the indictment. “At that point, I’ll have some ethical issues I’ll have to work through.”



Shot to death by musketry sounds about right
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Brutal.  Looks like the crew was making its way out when the last round hit.
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My major fear...is when or if Ukraine announces total victory over Putin's former occupation forces of Ukraine's territory --- Putin will possibly seek retribution, by bombing all of Ukraine's nuclear reactors --- Much like Hitler did against the Polish uprising of 1944.

It really shows the folly and danger of having civilian, nuclear fission reactors in a war zone.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 1:32:08 PM EDT
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Hopefully all made in USA.

US Military Industrial Complex money printer go brrrrrrrtttttt.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Hopefully all made in USA.

US Military Industrial Complex money printer go brrrrrrrtttttt.


lol, joke all you want, but it is American jobs.

These are just the numbers for making THAAD, it adds up for every program.



More than 1,000 employees across Lockheed Martin support the THAAD program at locations in Sunnyvale, California; Huntsville, Alabama; Chelmsford, Massachusetts; Troy, Alabama; Ocala, Florida; Camden, Arkansas; and Lufkin and Dallas, Texas. The program also has a nationwide supply chain and industrial base delivering key components and support providing 17,000 jobs across the country. There are more than 740 suppliers in 42 states.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 1:35:56 PM EDT
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lol, joke all you want, but it is American jobs.

These are just the numbers for making THAAD, it adds up for every program.

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/mfc/photo/thaad/mfc-mia-job-infographic-thaad.jpg.pc-adaptive.990.medium.jpg

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Green PA
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lol, you have a point there, perhaps my statement had too broad of a brush.
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Russia's problems are rooted in culture. Conscript US armies have fought well.

Russia has a low trust culture, which precludes having a well functioning corp of noncoms who are independent decision makers. Their leaders simply don't trust them, and visa versa.
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