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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:07:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Russian English propagandist: Russia has not yet used it arsenal Don't cliick on this American hating US immigrant - Russia has been showing human kindness not attacking civillian targets. - Russia is fighting NATO alone. - Aid from Iran not proven becuase Russia and Iran say didn't. - Lots of conventional weapons being held back, everything has it's timne. - Russia shaping the future world order. Russia showed it can withstand the US/West - BRICS stronk. South America, Asia, Africa will side with Russia. All countries that count wil side with Russia. - The world loves Russia and hates America We are nine months in... to a two week war. I don't think I've seen a weapon system in Russia's possession except for NCBW that they haven't used. (and are running out of or are already out of) They don't even quibble about the 70K KIA figure. Gobbling Putin cock must cause brain damage. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:08:22 PM EST
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:08:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm no fan of the Turks, but they have a real military and aren't afraid to throw down. After Britain and France, they are probably the most formidable NATO member. Pretty sure they're the only NATO country to have shot down a Russian jet since Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown Do the turks still operate our Perry class FFGs? I know they modified them to their specs, but if they are still operational it would be damn cool to see them sent into the Black Sea for Kilo class killing missions |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:09:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: And I am totally OK with the hand holding.  This war might mean we finally get serious about SFABs, both as a national capability and as a viable career path for some officers and NCOs. Considering what (I felt) was such a wasted effort for the last 10-20 years in IRQ and AFG, I am gratified to see some people taking our lessons and support to heart. I am also not terribly surprised with where you say we are helping, because it would be incredibly difficult for ANY country to create the kinds of things that we have and take for granted, such as NTC and JRTC. We have those things IMO, basically because we are a wealthy country and could make the investment ever since WWII. The Ukrainians are "building the airplane in flight", and they just don't have the time or depth on the bench to develop those mid- and senior-grades in more niche areas. They could do it on their own, but at the cost of filling more body bags. Like...I sort of can't wrap my head around how they are trying to get away from whole categories of Soviet equipment at the same time they are trying to fight a war, then receiving multiple variants of other donated vehicles from former WP countries...and keeping all that shit repaired, fueled, and armed. I dont think SFABs will be a career path, but it should be a legit assignment. Rant on.... When you look at the Vietnam war, there were lots of guys, future four stars, who did a tour as advisors when captains or majors. Basically advising ARVN battalion commanders, brigade commanders. After the war, Big Army bought off on the idea that our best "advisors" were special forces. Except SF was really designed for UW. Eventually it was realized we really need to focus on advising top down, not perpetual rifle ranges and platoon battle drills, and if you were going to advise Afghan Colonels and Generals, with US Colonels and LTCs and MAJs and SGMs, you didn't need to bring along PVts and Spec 4s. And that a 30 year old SF captain isn't going to advise a 50 year old Afghan general how to run his BDE. SFABs really are like a mobile export of US CGSC...focusing on the host nation field grades...and an acknowledgement putting all the advisory eggs in the SF basket at company grade level and below didn't do it. One of the strengths of the US Army is that we have 1 Officer per seven soldiers and we can create some units like that, and they deploy in and out continuously. An SFAB could rotate trainers in continuously, where three brigades rotating is far less efficient. And frankly with most of our allies, we don't need to deploy E5s to teach them to shoot their rifles. If, as has been said before....the weakness of the Russians is their NCO corps...how do you train an NCO corps? With senior NCOs. Leave the junior soldiers behind and let them train on their collective tasks. SFABs are a great idea. They need to stay. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:09:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: We are nine months in... to a two week war. I don't think I've seen a weapon system in Russia's possession except for NCBW that they haven't used. (and are running out of or are already out of) They don't even quibble about the 70K KIA figure. Gobbling Putin cock must cause brain damage. 3 day war |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:13:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Allegedly fighting going on in the Kinburn peninsula. That's across the river in the black sea.  That would be an interesting twist. Amphibious landing and then push through the peninsula to possibly meet up with forces that cross the Dnipro. No way Russia has enough forces to lock down the whole length of the river as well as the western side towards the peninsula. I bet they’re moving as many forces as they can towards Bakhmut right now… and then they get bum rushed from the west https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinburn_Peninsula 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:13:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: 3 day war Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: We are nine months in... to a two week war. I don't think I've seen a weapon system in Russia's possession except for NCBW that they haven't used. (and are running out of or are already out of) They don't even quibble about the 70K KIA figure. Gobbling Putin cock must cause brain damage. 3 day war You're right. While they were peeling the Russian marching band off the pavement on the outskirts of Kiev... It was "Going to be over in a couple days." |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:19:08 PM EST
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Complete GoPro of a Terrible Recon Mission in Ukraine
Complete GoPro of a Terrible Recon Mission in Ukraine Another mission from my GoPro in Ukraine. Artillery, bad intel, drones, and Russian FO’s. It’s a good one, hope you got something from this one! Instagram: CivDivision  Complete GoPro of a Terrible Recon Mission in Ukraine |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:21:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Are we on the topic of nonsense? Because I gots some nonsense. Member of the Federation Council: the timing of negotiations between Russia and Ukraine depends on Kiev's Western partners https://tass.ru/politika/16305499 SIMFEROPOL, November 12. /TASS/. Negotiations between Moscow and Kiev will certainly take place, but the timing of their holding depends on the position of Ukraine's partners in the United States and European countries. This was announced on Saturday by TASS member of the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the Federation Council Sergei Tsekov. "Negotiations [between Russia and Ukraine] will definitely happen in the end, but they will be very difficult, very complicated," the source said. - In my opinion, they will only be when Europeans and Americans are "ripe" for this. If they continue to provoke a conflict, there will be no negotiations." To date, according to Tsekov, the achievement of any result following the talks seems unlikely, since Kiev takes an unacceptable position, demanding from Russia the return of lost territories and compensation. "We must remember how the special military operation began. The issues of demilitarization, denazification have not been removed from the agenda," the senator stressed. He added that Moscow would not accept the existence of a Nazi state that would constantly threaten Russia. Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the Russian leadership is still ready to hold talks on Ukraine. He noted that Russia is ready to listen to colleagues from the West if they offer to organize a conversation on the détente of tension, taking into account the interests of Moscow. Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, in turn, expressed the opinion that negotiations on Ukraine should be conducted primarily with Washington. Here's how negotiations start: Lavrov says these words: Kherson is Ukraine. Zaporozhzhia is Ukraine. Donetsk is Ukraine. Luhansk is Ukraine. Crimea is Ukraine. Or maybe these words: Russia agrees to give up nuclear weapons forever and accept IAEA inspectors without limit. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:22:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LJ6798: Where can I find out what kind of tactics partisans use against an occupying army? Other than shooting a couple of them which would be a suicide mission. Let me elaborate. Big armys are fighting each other and that's like major league baseball. Partisans are like AA ball. They need to not bite off more they then can chew. Ambushing enemy infantry platoons is bad. Ambushing enemy log convoys...not bad, but a little risky. Killing political leaders and sympathizers. Great. Killing any police, or governors, or enemy spies. Great. Providing local security for any spies or intelligence agents. Excellent. Maybe laying some mines and IEDs in small numbers. The key is to provide intel, blind the enemy by killing sympathizers, ambush cops so they are afraid to go outside their base camps. Become value added without being too noticed...while the enemy doesn't want to send infantry on counterpartisan operations...they will if you push your luck. In general, sabotage right before the main force big army shows up. Do as much as you can with what you have to help big army but don't do too much or bite off more then you can chew. That's partisan life. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:22:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but... I remember back in the Kharkiv offensive, thinking, man, the Ukes are really putting it to them, they must be killing thousands. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're advancing, but this just doesn't add up. Either there were a lot less RF forces on the right bank than we were told, or UA did a poor job of roughing them up on their way out. Those guys are going to be a LOT harder to deal with on the left bank than they were on the right. Or it was a deal ... I totally agree with you, there is something murky there! Hermann |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:23:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: From the attack side of the house we train to fly lower than what you're typically seeing come out in the videos and we're doing it at night. Broad strokes, the days of doing 3K orbits at 2000ft around your supported ground force like what we did in Iraq or Afghanistan are over. There's a lot of stuff on the tactics side of the house that we're currently working through. I do enjoy your posts BTW, thanks for contributing. We don't have a lot of Aviators (AFAIK), at least not current ones, and that is one area about this conflict that has been especially eye opening. MANPADs are freaking scary.  ATGMs are scary too, but I would still feel MUCH better staying on the ground. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:24:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Ukrainian govt Twitter account showing a grandmother taking tally of the Russian casualties stated on TV.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:25:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Copium: Russian YouTube propagandist: Russia has not yet used it arsenal Don't cliick on this American hating US immigrant - Russia has been showing human kindness not attacking civillian targets. - Russia is fighting NATO alone. - Aid from Iran not proven becuase Russia and Iran say didn't. - Lots of conventional weapons being held back, everything has it's timne. - Russia shaping the future world order. Russia showed it can withstand the US/West - BRICS stronk. South America, Asia, Africa will side with Russia. All countries that count wil side with Russia. - The world loves Russia and hates America Thanks, I needed a laugh.   |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:26:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Without going into details, there is a whole lot of hand holding going on with the Ukrainians by outside entities in regards to higher level staff functions. While the Ukrainians are good at certain things there are other countries that are better at doing those same things. To say that a country is the #2 military in the world when they are effectively relying on outside entities for a large portion of their logistics, intel, training and force generation is the part I take issue with. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By dillydilly: You didn't really explain why you don't think Ukraine is no. 2. I mean you're probably right, it's been more tongue in cheek because they're certainly much better than the big bad Russians, something we've gotten used to hearing for the last 20 years. Without going into details, there is a whole lot of hand holding going on with the Ukrainians by outside entities in regards to higher level staff functions. While the Ukrainians are good at certain things there are other countries that are better at doing those same things. To say that a country is the #2 military in the world when they are effectively relying on outside entities for a large portion of their logistics, intel, training and force generation is the part I take issue with. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:26:44 PM EST
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>The Kherson Counter Offensive is never coming!
>The Kherson Counter Offensive was defeated in the first day! >The Kherson Counter Offensive was defeated in the first week! >The Kherson Counter Offensive only took useless fields! >The Kherson Counter Offensive only took useless towns! ---YOU ARE HERE--- >The Kherson Counter Offensive only cleared out the north-east bank of the river! >The Kherson Counter Offensive only took everything but Kherson itself! >The Kherson Counter Offensive didn't push over the Dnieper River! >Russia didn't need Kherson anyways! This aged well. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:28:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: Agreed. They have momentum, and confidence. They will use those and advance. CMOS Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Just my opinion, but I have no doubt Ukraine is going to do some offensive in the winter. Agreed. They have momentum, and confidence. They will use those and advance. CMOS Momentum, confidence...and they are just going to be 10000 times better prepared to fight in the cold, right down to the dudes being able to have warm dry clothing and SOCKS. Socks: The Unlikely War Winner. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:28:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Man, please ease up on the acronyms. I have no idea what you just tried to say. THANKS! + 1! H |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:31:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: TheHunstman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Or it could be that in a thread about an ongoing war and discussing topics like military strategy the person using the acronym might expect just a basic level of common knowledge. I see now that was a mistake. I'll make sure to break it down Barney style for you in the future. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By K0UA: People that use specific acronyms have no desire to communicate to a wider audience. They only want to communicate to those in the narrow group that know and understand the acronyms. So don't worry, he had no interest in communicating with us. Move along, nothing to see here. Or it could be that in a thread about an ongoing war and discussing topics like military strategy the person using the acronym might expect just a basic level of common knowledge. I see now that was a mistake. I'll make sure to break it down Barney style for you in the future. Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:34:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Some of you guys were having trouble viewing the epic Stugna ambush, you can try these links.
No stop signs, speed limit Nobody's gonna slow me down Like a wheel, gonna spin it Nobody's gonna mess me around Hey Satan, payin' my dues Playing in a rocking band Hey mama, look at me I'm on the way to the promised land.  |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:34:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j_hooker: Since the offensive I keep thinking, “Man, it would be interesting to hear from a Russian Army Field hospital what it’s like with the flow of wounded.” I can’t even imagine day after day, month after month of wounded flooding in. Has to be taxing on the medical personnel 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:34:58 PM EST
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:35:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHunstman: Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHunstman: Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By K0UA: People that use specific acronyms have no desire to communicate to a wider audience. They only want to communicate to those in the narrow group that know and understand the acronyms. So don't worry, he had no interest in communicating with us. Move along, nothing to see here. Or it could be that in a thread about an ongoing war and discussing topics like military strategy the person using the acronym might expect just a basic level of common knowledge. I see now that was a mistake. I'll make sure to break it down Barney style for you in the future. Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. Acronyms can be a pain, but I find Google is pretty good for explaining what they mean if I really need to know, and can't work it out from the context of the discussion.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:35:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Momentum, confidence...and they are just going to be 10000 times better prepared to fight in the cold, right down to the dudes being able to have warm dry clothing and SOCKS. Socks: The Unlikely War Winner. They’re getting supplied cold weather gear by the Canadians. And they aren’t abandoning their gear and running away carrying washing machines like the Russians are. It’s going to be a very very shitty winter to be a Russian conscript. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:41:19 PM EST
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I have been watching news of Kherson today, the celebrations, and general good mood. I hate to be doom and gloom, but when has Russia not responded after an embarrassing moment in such ways? I feel like it is coming.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:41:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHunstman: Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. I had already explained it and apologized for using acronyms in a post prior to his. He either didn't read that post or didn't comprehend it so I restated it more directly. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:42:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: People that use specific acronyms have no desire to communicate to a wider audience. They only want to communicate to those in the narrow group that know and understand the acronyms. So don't worry, he had no interest in communicating with us. Move along, nothing to see here. Did you happen to drop into the thread by accident, child? Did you think a helicopter pilot like DASJUDEN is going to discuss combat operations without using a single acronym that you don't understand? Did you expect to be spoon fed? I could see how "IBCT" may not be something you are familiar with, but you can google it in under a minute. Noone is asking you to read a field manual but could you spend 30 seconds? There have been some artillery terms, outside of R0N and FDC, NONE of us understand...that means everyone is looking the stuff up. We all are. That what happens when some people with different levels of expertise come together. I didn't know what a panzerhaubitze 2000, or stugna, or krab were...I looked it up. You can too. Its a war. Wars are complex. Being in .mil is not a decoder ring and we all definitely dont understand 100% of everything everyone else is saying. Try and look it up and if you cant find it someone will explain it to you. We're not asking you to do something we all aren't doing. Personally, Im happy to explain anything to anyone because I'm just a guy on a board....but I know the difference between something that requires some explaining and something that doesnt. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:43:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: I had already explained it and apologized for using acronyms in a post prior to his. He either didn't read that post or didn't comprehend it so I restated it more directly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By TheHunstman: Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. I had already explained it and apologized for using acronyms in a post prior to his. He either didn't read that post or didn't comprehend it so I restated it more directly. Sorry mybad, I missed that post! 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:43:39 PM EST
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Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc...
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:44:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: I had already explained it and apologized for using acronyms in a post prior to his. He either didn't read that post or didn't comprehend it so I restated it more directly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By TheHunstman: Lighten up Francis. A lot of non-military members ask every now and then to explain the acronyms being tossed about. He could have asked nicer but come on, this isn't a .mil subforum. I had already explained it and apologized for using acronyms in a post prior to his. He either didn't read that post or didn't comprehend it so I restated it more directly. You do you. We are all on the internet. I often have to Google map towns, etc. to see where things are. It's a lot quicker than asking.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:46:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHunstman: Sorry mybad, I missed that post! It's all good man
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:47:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uxb: Too busy advooncing to get accurate tally of vatnik corpses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uxb: Originally Posted By Eat_Beef: I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but... Either there is a whole lot of wishful thinking going on with the major twitter guys referenced in this thread, or UA is barely muddling through. This is twice now that everyone is declaring a rout, and the official numbers are up 2-% from an average day. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're advancing, but this just doesn't add up. Either there were a lot less RF forces on the right bank than we were told, or UA did a poor job of roughing them up on their way out. Those guys are going to be a LOT harder to deal with on the left bank than they were on the right. Too busy advooncing to get accurate tally of vatnik corpses. Obligatory  |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:48:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif Do you copy and paste your own post from other threads?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:50:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:52:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker: Acronyms can be a pain, but I find Google is pretty good for explaining what they mean if I really need to know, and can't work it out from the context of the discussion.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:53:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif What do you think "This country's future" would look like with Vlad's kleptocracy controlling Europe? You ain't got the horsepower to get there huh? |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:53:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Thats one of those talking points on the Right I just dont get. Ukraine could be a bunch of snake worshiping cannibals wasting half our foreign aid on decorative glass beads and crack, and I'd still support them because they are killing 100k Russian Soldiers a year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By gatetraveller: Originally Posted By toaster: Originally Posted By HDLS: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/Screen_Shot_2022-11-12_at_9_08_50_AM-2597502.png
 This is exactly the kind of thing that made me want to punch all of the so called Republicans who decry supporting Ukraine in the face. That and all the dead children. It's not fake, I don't give a Shit how corrupt you think the Ukrainian government is. These people are suffering at the hands of the Russians and deserve any help that we can give! Thats one of those talking points on the Right I just dont get. Ukraine could be a bunch of snake worshiping cannibals wasting half our foreign aid on decorative glass beads and crack, and I'd still support them because they are killing 100k Russian Soldiers a year. I hope the suffering last for centuries and they will never ever venture out of Orcsland again. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:55:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: I have been watching news of Kherson today, the celebrations, and general good mood. I hate to be doom and gloom, but when has Russia not responded after an embarrassing moment in such ways? I feel like it is coming. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20221113_013832_jpg-2597911.JPG |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:55:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Same. Just make sure you type in military after them or you'll get some fucked up company or part I add US military, but maybe it's more location specific for those outside CONUS. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:56:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif  |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:57:51 PM EST
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 Street Fighter: Ukraine |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 6:58:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: https://img.ifunny.co/images/0d395831439f0c5261697d2c14481483bba3a9ccb9d2bcd6536e653ee2794367_1.webp Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Those two kind of pop in my head already as being pretty solid. I guess I was thinking of countries that don't really have a strong military but culturally seemed like they have their heads screwed on and are able to learn shit pretty quick, just don't have huge capabilities. Estonians maybe? All the work I did training with the guys in the Baltic states left me with mixed feelings. The hearts there, the equipment and sheer numbers aren't. To put it in perspective I've seen the entire Estonian airforce and it consists of less than 10 airframes. Thankfully they're aware of their limitations and know that they'd probably get rolled over fairly quickly and have planned accordingly. https://img.ifunny.co/images/0d395831439f0c5261697d2c14481483bba3a9ccb9d2bcd6536e653ee2794367_1.webp That might of been true once... |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:01:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif  |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:01:45 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Or it could be that in a thread about an ongoing war and discussing topics like military strategy the person using the acronym might expect just a basic level of common knowledge. I see now that was a mistake. I'll make sure to break it down Barney style for you in the future. Well, you may have noticed I didn't ask about the acronyms because I figured if you wanted us to know what you were talking about you would have typed it out in plain language. I know a fairly large percentage of the ex or current US military on this forum would probably know what you were talking about, and you were not directing you comments to me or the fella that asked about it. I was replying to him to forget it as your comments were not directed to us in the first place. Was I wrong? |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:03:27 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Its sucks we know its coming. I hate we don't know where they are aiming. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Easterner: I have been watching news of Kherson today, the celebrations, and general good mood. I hate to be doom and gloom, but when has Russia not responded after an embarrassing moment in such ways? I feel like it is coming. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20221113_013832_jpg-2597911.JPG I wonder if they have managed to get any of the HAWK systems online yet, and if they would be of any utility for anti-missile defense. At least their presence would free up S-300 for missile defense. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:05:57 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Leveraging this country's future even moar than already leveraged is totes worth it if it kills just one orc... ...ukraine bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/69B2C3DD-AB51-405D-AC94-11ABC7DC9160-2409960.gif 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:07:08 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Hasn't Ukraine's IADS improved since the post-Kerch bridge temper-tantrum? It was right after that when the NASAM and IRIS-T systems started to come online. I wonder if they have managed to get any of the HAWK systems online yet, and if they would be of any utility for anti-missile defense. At least their presence would free up S-300 for missile defense. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:07:13 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but... I remember back in the Kharkiv offensive, thinking, man, the Ukes are really putting it to them, they must be killing thousands. But the official numbers never got that high, maybe the 6-700 range. I had the same thought on this Kherson run. We're hearing that it's a total rout, there are 20k RF soldiers with no chance of escape, they're getting slaughtered by arty. Then the numbers come in and it's 7-800 a day. I'm sorry, but it's a colossal failure that they let that many enemy soldiers escape across a river without cutting them a whole lot deeper than they did. Either there is a whole lot of wishful thinking going on with the major twitter guys referenced in this thread, or UA is barely muddling through. This is twice now that everyone is declaring a rout, and the official numbers are up 2-% from an average day. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're advancing, but this just doesn't add up. Either there were a lot less RF forces on the right bank than we were told, or UA did a poor job of roughing them up on their way out. Those guys are going to be a LOT harder to deal with on the left bank than they were on the right. But the amount of territory reclaimed by AFU tells me that they are indeed, kicking some major ass. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:08:55 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gatetraveller: This is exactly the kind of thing that made me want to punch all of the so called Republicans who decry supporting Ukraine in the face. That and all the dead children. It's not fake, I don't give a Shit how corrupt you think the Ukrainian government is. These people are suffering at the hands of the Russians and deserve any help that we can give! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gatetraveller: Originally Posted By toaster: Originally Posted By HDLS: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/Screen_Shot_2022-11-12_at_9_08_50_AM-2597502.png
This is exactly the kind of thing that made me want to punch all of the so called Republicans who decry supporting Ukraine in the face. That and all the dead children. It's not fake, I don't give a Shit how corrupt you think the Ukrainian government is. These people are suffering at the hands of the Russians and deserve any help that we can give! |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 7:11:40 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kudzu630: That might of been true once... Well at least before we realized how shit at large scale combat operations the entire Russian military is those guys were under no illusion that they were a glorified speedbump and that their only mission was to buy time and to help hold the Suwalki gap as long as they could. Fortunately for them the Russians have proven incompetent and I'm fairly sure the Multinational Battle Group could have held it without reinforcement. |
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