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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:00:01 PM EST
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Talking smack from the safety of his office in DC.


Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:00:25 PM EST
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There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.
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Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:00:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RUM:
What’s the evidence to support the “This is the B Team Russian Army and that’s why they’re not doing well”?

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None. It’s all based on the perception that Russia was stronger and more capable than they’ve been able to demonstrate thus far. Falling birth rate, life expectancy and rampant alcoholism has its consequences.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:00:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jimmybp:


This, it's fucking criminal how this has been handled so far
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They should have had THAAD, Patriot, and even CRAM years ago. Follow that up with M198s and older 105s.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:01:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.

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I think the general consensus is that Ukraine has no chance. Fact of life. They're killing a lot more Russians than Russia anticipated though, which is good.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:01:14 PM EST
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Black/White Hot MF's
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:01:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:01:41 PM EST
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There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.
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Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


And how the hell would you be able to confirm this anyways?  Like saying there are illegal AR configurations in CA. BS
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:02:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:


The Ukrainian Air Force should operate and fly out of airbases in Poland. The russians have been using Belarus as an attack point.  Fly in and out- refuel and rearm in Poland with Nato/US air cover in Polish airspace.  Blast russian aircraft that stray into Nato Polish airspace.
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Joe Biden would need to grow a pair
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:02:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CTAC:


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.
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Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.



those are Krinks which are also Sidefolders.   The only reason AK pistols exist is to import them into America.  

Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:02:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.

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I think everyone (myself included) is happy that the Ukrainians are doing a fine job of making the invaders lives hell.

The difference between this and election night is that that even if the winds shift and Kyiv falls, her people won’t be giving up. They have weeks, months, even years if need be to be a huge thorn in the side of Russia. This isn’t decided tonight, tomorrow, or even the week after.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:00 PM EST
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Did she just mansplain?



Clamsplain

Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:15 PM EST
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Ukraine shoots down transport plane carrying '150 Russian paratroopers' trying to storm Kyiv as Putin launches full-scale assault on capital: Zelensky says nation's fate will be decided TONIGHT


Ukraine's armed forces said on Friday night that they had shot down a Russian military transport plane carrying 150 paratroopers on the outskirts of Kyiv.

The plane came down near Vasylkiv, 20 miles south of Kyiv, the Ukrainian military said.

The fate of those onboard was unclear. The aircrafts - medium-range military transport aircraft, which first went into service in 1974 - can hold 150-225 fully-equipped soldiers, and is used to drop paratroopers into combat and resupply arms.

The news came shortly after Ukraine's president warned that the Russians intend to take Kyiv overnight, urging his countrymen to resist the expected onslaught as Western officials say the city appears surrounded.

Volodymyr Zelensky, addressing the nation from a secret location in the capital, had a dire warning for his embattled and defiant people on Friday night.

'Russia will try to break our resistance with all its might,' he said, in a video posted to social media.

'Tonight the enemy will begin storming us. We need to withstand them!'


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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Im finding this whole Russian invasion very weird.

150-200k troops massed on the borders for weeks, presumably with enough time to form a good plan.

They’re not even that far away from the cities they’re attacking!?

I know it took us 28 days or whatever to roll through Iraq. But this is Russia! They don’t give a shit about precision. They’re also not retards. Sending one or two planes in, being shot down en mass? Half assed para inserts? Maybe I’m just too used to the way we do things.  

I know we’re not getting troop movement info anymore. But I would love to know where the majority are now.
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The call up of NATO, makes me wonder what exactly the other 120K troops are doing.

Its either maskirovka or incompetence, or maybe that's how they cover for their incompetence.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:38 PM EST
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Stingers?

Eta maybe those thermals
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:03:47 PM EST
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And how the hell would you be able to confirm this anyways?  Like saying there are illegal AR configurations in CA. BS
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Maybe because not everywhere in the world has the same fucked up firearms laws as the US and in most of the world pistols are more restricted than rifles.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:04:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:

Exactly. "Hey guys look at me! Big slow moving target, give it to me good!"
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If any of this is true, why would it have its transponder turned on?

Exactly. "Hey guys look at me! Big slow moving target, give it to me good!"


I wonder if he went in for gunz on that big fat fucker?
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:04:25 PM EST
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Really seems that way.
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I think they sent in the C team to start the game to see how it goes.

Really seems that way.


They would have switched to A or B team today. Almost headed into 3rd day now.

Maybe Russia’s military just fucking sucks.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:05:11 PM EST
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"In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated that the F-22 was not relevant in post-Cold War conflicts..."

This was Obama's guy, and stupid like his boss.  If the US had procured near the original target amount, or to the first reduced amount of around 650 or so, the air force could easily establish a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace.  This invasion would have been stopped before it started.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:05:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By voodochild:
Wonder if Israel will help out seeing as how the President is Jewish and there is Jewish population. Ukraine could use the suicide drones Azerbaijan used with great effect against Armenia.
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Iron Dome shipment would be nice.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:05:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:06:08 PM EST
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Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.
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Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.


I’d love to see them.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:06:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:


I think the general consensus is that Ukraine has no chance. Fact of life. They're killing a lot more Russians than Russia anticipated though, which is good.
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.



I think the general consensus is that Ukraine has no chance. Fact of life. They're killing a lot more Russians than Russia anticipated though, which is good.


There may be a chance that Ukraine can stalemate Russia. If they can show that they are capable of preventing a Russian "victory" (whatever that looks like), then they have a chance to get more NATO help and a "diplomatic" solution. If Russia had been cut off from SWIFT immediately and weapons airlifted/trucked in huge quantities, there would have been zero likelihood of a Russian victory. As it is, there may be a negotiated settlement. Russia isn't getting what they wanted out of this. Ever. So, the only real question is what are they willing to settle for.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:06:18 PM EST
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NV and equipment are great.....if you know how to use them in a firefight.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:06:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.

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I think we're all expecting UA to get fucked up. We're just happy to see them returning the favor. We're happy to see they have the will to fight. The only thing that would be a complete let down would be for them to surrender and become Putin's lap dog.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:06:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:08:00 PM EST
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I don't think the Ukrainians can hold out much longer without air support. Russia will encircle Kiev, bring in artillery, and it will be game over for the UKR military and government. I think that's pretty much inevitable.

What I don't understand is what Putin thinks the end game is. Defeating the UKR army is one thing. Holding the ground for any length of time is another.

It'll shift to a low level insurgency and every day the Russians stay they will bleed. For how long? And then what?

Maybe he is ok with it becoming a failed state so long as it doesn't become NATO?
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:08:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:


I think the general consensus is that Ukraine has no chance. Fact of life. They're killing a lot more Russians than Russia anticipated though, which is good.
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.



I think the general consensus is that Ukraine has no chance. Fact of life. They're killing a lot more Russians than Russia anticipated though, which is good.


I hope that's the case.  Things sound very positive for folks who are pretty screwed either way.

At this point I'll wait for actual reports when results are somewhat clear and evidenced.

"They're hiding the bodies" and "We shot it down but there's no wreckage" sounds a little nutty.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:08:06 PM EST
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those are Krinks which are also Sidefolders.   The only reason AK pistols exist is to import them into America.  

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Originally Posted By cwm1150:


Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.



those are Krinks which are also Sidefolders.   The only reason AK pistols exist is to import them into America.  



Also not true.   Edit-  responded to wrong post.  That makes sense. I really don’t know much about AKs which is clear!    
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:08:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:

My guess is that they're trying to prevent as much collateral damage as possible.

If they wanted to, they could shell the ever living hell out of Ukrainian cities and flatten them - they certainly have the means to do it.

That's not going to happen though - even Putin isn't that retarded.
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Did Russia ever use artillery from miles out, or are they pretty much trying to keep the infrastructure intact ?

My guess is that they're trying to prevent as much collateral damage as possible.

If they wanted to, they could shell the ever living hell out of Ukrainian cities and flatten them - they certainly have the means to do it.

That's not going to happen though - even Putin isn't that retarded.

I don't think Putin is retarded. But he's less rational than he's been in the past 25 years (listen to the speech).

If the invasion is fumbled, Putin will be killed, plain and simple. He is in such a bubble, and he reportedly had health issues, who knows what his state of mind is. It's not like he has advisors who can override him.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:08:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RainierV:
The best confirmation for me that Ukraine is holding their own and that things are not going well for Russia is the account I am going to link below.

Guy is Russian and extremely proud of it. Talked a load of shit about how the Russian military was going to fuck up Ukraine. He's been following the Ukraine conflict for a long time and is a member of a lot of the Separatist and Pro-Russia Telegram channels. He is demoralized and deflated right now.

https://twitter.com/AndreyZhukovv?t=0S3aez27spP2wyEWezFwOw&s=09

NATO, in particular the United States, needs to get off our asses and supply Ukraine with EVERYTHING we've got.

Ukraine has a chance if they can hold Kiev tonight. It's not going well for the Russians.
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Agreed.
And fuck you, Andrushka.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:09:04 PM EST
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I’d love to see them.
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Gangster getting ready to do ganster shit

Yeah, he’s ready to party


Better than nothing but a pistol? I’d want to be able to wield that thing and get a few headshots at range.




That's an AKS74. It's a left side folder.

https://i.imgur.com/qevXyLA.jpg


Better then!  Sorry-  not an all guy but I’ve seen a number of pics lately if dudes rolling with the pistols. Even those shorty ones.  Gotta be worthless when hits matter


There are zero AK pistols in Ukraine.


Not true.  Pics earlier in this thread showed local police rolling with them.


I’d love to see them.

They are krinks with the stocks folded.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:09:09 PM EST
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They should have had THAAD, Patriot, and even CRAM years ago. Follow that up with M198s and older 105s.
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This, it's fucking criminal how this has been handled so far
They should have had THAAD, Patriot, and even CRAM years ago. Follow that up with M198s and older 105s.


I said the same thing yesterday in this thread about how unprepared they are, and one of our resident Ukrainians here layed into me about It; he blamed the west for not helping more
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:09:16 PM EST
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That man is a hero. May he be welcome to Valhalla with open arms and may his name be enshrined in the halls of heros. Deserves the Medal of Honor in my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:10:05 PM EST
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Ukraine capital Kyiv endures Russian onslaught - BBC News
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Those paratroopers are probably one of their best troops.  Good shoot.  Russia doesn't have the depth and bread like US military. Japan needs to go after the disputed Japanese islands.  Russia doesn't have the depth and breadth to fight a multi-front war.
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Good,hope everyone of those fuckers slowly suffered and are enjoying hell right now
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Also not true.
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Go make some other thread about this pointlessness.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:11:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BigMat:

so?

A mask seems like a great idea of your country is slipping into an insurgency war and everyone's got a camera.

Maybe he's in a country at war and doesn't have time to worry about the "muh mask" bullshit we get bent about?  Of all the shit to worry about
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It's clearly a Covid mask and it fucking retarded. I stand by my statement. If he was trying to hide his ID I think he'd have the sense to wear something beyond a 4 inch square over his nose and mouth but then again he's wearing a Covid mask in a warzone. I wouldn't even blink were it a balaclava or shemagh
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:11:48 PM EST
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Ukraine shoots down transport plane carrying '150 Russian paratroopers' trying to storm Kyiv as Putin launches full-scale assault on capital: Zelensky says nation's fate will be decided TONIGHT


Ukraine's armed forces said on Friday night that they had shot down a Russian military transport plane carrying 150 paratroopers on the outskirts of Kyiv.

The plane came down near Vasylkiv, 20 miles south of Kyiv, the Ukrainian military said.

The fate of those onboard was unclear. The aircrafts - medium-range military transport aircraft, which first went into service in 1974 - can hold 150-225 fully-equipped soldiers, and is used to drop paratroopers into combat and resupply arms.

The news came shortly after Ukraine's president warned that the Russians intend to take Kyiv overnight, urging his countrymen to resist the expected onslaught as Western officials say the city appears surrounded.

Volodymyr Zelensky, addressing the nation from a secret location in the capital, had a dire warning for his embattled and defiant people on Friday night.

'Russia will try to break our resistance with all its might,' he said, in a video posted to social media.

'Tonight the enemy will begin storming us. We need to withstand them!'


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.I hope that's blasted all over Russian news of all those boys dieing
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I think everyone (myself included) is happy that the Ukrainians are doing a fine job of making the invaders lives hell.

The difference between this and election night is that that even if the winds shift and Kyiv falls, her people won’t be giving up. They have weeks, months, even years if need be to be a huge thorn in the side of Russia. This isn’t decided tonight, tomorrow, or even the week after.
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease:
I'm loving the pro Ukraine posts.

But.. this is starting to feel like election night.

I thinking Monday will have everyone talking about a very different outcome.



I think everyone (myself included) is happy that the Ukrainians are doing a fine job of making the invaders lives hell.

The difference between this and election night is that that even if the winds shift and Kyiv falls, her people won’t be giving up. They have weeks, months, even years if need be to be a huge thorn in the side of Russia. This isn’t decided tonight, tomorrow, or even the week after.


I don't think many people (except for Ukranians) here expected to be still having the conversation this long.
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Ukraine holding the East like a boss.
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Originally Posted By treasurediver:


There was a guy in my hometown who was in Hungary when the Russians invaded. He claims he was up a few floors in a building when a Russian tank pulled up next to the building and stopped. One of the crew popped open a hatch to get a better look around and he dropped a Molotov down on it. He claims none of the crew made it out. Apparently they are pretty effective, especially when hatches are open.
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I have a US manual from the 80s that recommends molotovs in such situations.  (Firing small arms at sensors is discussed also).  And, Russia is basically using some tanks from that era, with upgrades bolted on, so there's that.
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Play in the dark.
Link Posted: 2/25/2022 7:13:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:


I said the same thing yesterday in this thread about how unprepared they are, and one of our resident Ukrainians here layed into me about It; he blamed the west for not helping more
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Besides moving anti ballistic missiles into Ukraine would have brought a Russian response.
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Originally Posted By 74HC:
"In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated that the F-22 was not relevant in post-Cold War conflicts..."

This was Obama's guy, and stupid like his boss.  If the US had procured near the original target amount, or to the first reduced amount of around 650 or so, the air force could easily establish a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace.  This invasion would have been stopped before it started.
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We still could… but we won’t
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