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Posted: 2/7/2023 1:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: For those that think Russia isn't training well here is a video showing them using smoke to obscure there movement. I firmly believe that some of the new guys are getting better training that we are being shown. https://funker530.com/video/russian-column-uses-smoke-screen-to-cross-open-ground/ Or veteran troops back in rotation. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 1:41:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 1:55:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Or veteran troops back in rotation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By m35ben: For those that think Russia isn't training well here is a video showing them using smoke to obscure there movement. I firmly believe that some of the new guys are getting better training that we are being shown. https://funker530.com/video/russian-column-uses-smoke-screen-to-cross-open-ground/ Or veteran troops back in rotation. I think it has to be assumed that lessons are being learned and they are improving. Perhaps not everywhere, but self preservation is an effective governess. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NE223: Moscow begging Russian "negotiations" remind me of the anti gun people. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/330CC6C3-704D-4020-B3D5-C91D11232EB1-475.gif  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Russians - if you can't eat it or fuck it, then shit on it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:07:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Just keep in mind that's what we're all being led to believe. "The GMSDB will take 9 months to get there." "These tanks are in bad condition and won't be on time." I know from experience that if you know something needs refurbished, it can sometimes be done quicker than it first appears.  I think every effort is actually being made by Western forces and Ukraine to have everything they need for this Spring, not next Spring. These actually don't look so bad, kept in temperature controlled warehouses and out of the weather. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoYM4TaXsAYyFhN?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoWxb3_WAAAqzv3?format=jpg&name=900x900 |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By general_cluster: I think it has to be assumed that lessons are being learned and they are improving. Perhaps not everywhere, but self preservation is an effective governess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By general_cluster: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By m35ben: For those that think Russia isn't training well here is a video showing them using smoke to obscure there movement. I firmly believe that some of the new guys are getting better training that we are being shown. https://funker530.com/video/russian-column-uses-smoke-screen-to-cross-open-ground/ Or veteran troops back in rotation. I think it has to be assumed that lessons are being learned and they are improving. Perhaps not everywhere, but self preservation is an effective governess. Youtube and comments say it’s the Far East 155th Naval Inf. Bde going into action at Vuhledar very recently. Apparently they were handled badly with shocking losses. Here’s a pic of a laager of the Ukrainian 4th Amoured Bde near Bahkmut recently. Just thought it was an interesting picture.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Lol. If the west/Ukraine didn’t expect that then they don’t know Russia. Putin would be cool with 5 million Russians dying in Ukraine. That’s how they are brought up. That’s why the west pussy-footing around with offensive weapons has been a joke. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:11:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Or veteran troops back in rotation. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Is/has/should Ukraine do anything similar? I've always felt that the west is at risk of being unprepared for the level of casualties Russia is willing to take in this venture. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: For those that think Russia isn't training well here is a video showing them using smoke to obscure there movement. I firmly believe that some of the new guys are getting better training that we are being shown. https://funker530.com/video/russian-column-uses-smoke-screen-to-cross-open-ground/ Who’s doing the training? They killed off the cream of their officer/NCO corps over the last year…. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:33:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Who's doing the training? They killed off the cream of their officer/NCO corps over the last year . |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:35:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:46:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Yeah something like that, but no big announcement this time to avoid more people fleeing the country. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 2:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Need to figure out how to put a TOW luncher on each of those Leo 1s to make them more capable. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Lol. If the west/Ukraine didn’t expect that then they don’t know Russia. Putin would be cool with 5 million Russians dying in Ukraine. That’s how they are brought up. That’s why the west pussy-footing around with offensive weapons has been a joke. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Lol. If the west/Ukraine didn’t expect that then they don’t know Russia. Putin would be cool with 5 million Russians dying in Ukraine. That’s how they are brought up. That’s why the west pussy-footing around with offensive weapons has been a joke. Was expecting another 300k, but I guess it's go big or go home time for Vlad |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:04:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:06:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Youtube and comments say it’s the Far East 155th Naval Inf. Bde going into action at Vuhledar very recently. Apparently they were handled badly with shocking losses. Here’s a pic of a laager of the Ukrainian 4th Amoured Bde near Bahkmut recently. Just thought it was an interesting picture. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/E1104E8E-2AFF-4793-BBF5-ED0133CE4849_jpe-2701873.JPG God I hate mud. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:09:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:13:57 PM EDT
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Thermobaric grenades are something I only just learned existed. It's a very different world than when I served. Anyways they are in use by Ukrainian forces. Ukrainian military uses Bulgarian thermobaric grenades  Українські військові застосовують RTB-7MA I can't find any information on what the lethal blast radius is for it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Need to figure out how to put a TOW luncher on each of those Leo 1s to make them more capable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoYcOmPaUAAzI7N?format=jpg&name=large
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Need to figure out how to put a TOW luncher on each of those Leo 1s to make them more capable. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:17:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:26:18 PM EDT
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Wow, dont go poking kamikaze drones with a stick.
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thread in tweet on Ukrainian training in the UK and their weapons.
I bet they’re smooth shooters, no pic rail though. My sam7sf shoots like a 5.56 but is a tad heavy. I’ll allow it 😎 Havnt seen Beryls, still think stanag mag guns are the way. Those bulgy mags probably cost 50% of gun. I know most guys prefer m16a2s or m4s at this point. Brens scars and grots being GTG too. The under folders just no. That’s what the training Ak was I saw. Not a good gun for the bearded veteran |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Russia still has a large military and should be plenty still able to teach. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Who's doing the training? They killed off the cream of their officer/NCO corps over the last year . They're also stationing lots of troops in Belarus, and people here have theorized that training Russian forces is something Lukashenko can do to placate Putin without committing his own troops to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Absolutely I see potential open flanks in the east, they could only be limited in depth their currently minus engineering equip. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:39:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It does look like the RuAF 155th naval group rolling coal got shit stomped. ETA: reads that the 72nd sep brigade did work on em. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:44:04 PM EDT
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UA should train some camels to release at the end of the battle to finish of the wounded orcs. That would be awesome.
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:47:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wow, dont go poking kamikaze drones with a stick.
Lol "Lights out mofo!" |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm not a military guy but - Are we seeing a tank with artillery support go up against infantry with no support? Is that the limit to combined arms that Ukraine is using? |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:55:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: I'm not a military guy but - Are we seeing a tank with artillery support go up against infantry with no support? Is that the limit to combined arms that Ukraine is using? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm not a military guy but - Are we seeing a tank with artillery support go up against infantry with no support? Is that the limit to combined arms that Ukraine is using? In this instance it appears to be as you said. More single tank hitting ill equipped Russians.
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:58:10 PM EDT
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So what does Russia have that is man portable that can take out a tank and what do they have that can take out a aircraft and what numbers do they have?
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Posted: 2/7/2023 3:59:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wow, dont go poking kamikaze drones with a stick.
Bet he won't do that again. Savage. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 4:00:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Gooch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Was expecting another 300k, but I guess it's go big or go home time for Vlad Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So pootin is mobilizing 500-700k more people? Holyfuck Lol. If the west/Ukraine didn't expect that then they don't know Russia. Putin would be cool with 5 million Russians dying in Ukraine. That's how they are brought up. That's why the west pussy-footing around with offensive weapons has been a joke. Was expecting another 300k, but I guess it's go big or go home time for Vlad |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 4:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: If swissland joins does that mean we're officially in a WW? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Jack67: Swiss contemplate growing a national conscience, violating a century+ of tradition. Pressure building to OK arms and ammo sales to Ukraine: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3666668-switzerland-close-to-lifting-ban-on-arms-exports-to-ukraine-media.html If swissland joins does that mean we're officially in a WW? |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 4:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: I'm not a military guy but - Are we seeing a tank with artillery support go up against infantry with no support? Is that the limit to combined arms that Ukraine is using? My guess on some visual cues is that was not part of a larger scale offensive or defensive action. A Rus squad was isolated or otherwise trying to hunker down in the treeline. Got spotted, probably by that same locally operated drone. Some Ukr tanker said, “Hey fellas, watch this,” and went out to blayt them before heading back to his own lines. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 4:34:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NE223: Moscow begging Russian "negotiations" remind me of the anti gun people. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/330CC6C3-704D-4020-B3D5-C91D11232EB1-475.gif |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:04:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Need to figure out how to put a TOW luncher on each of those Leo 1s to make them more capable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoYcOmPaUAAzI7N?format=jpg&name=large
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Need to figure out how to put a TOW luncher on each of those Leo 1s to make them more capable. A CROWS-J would be interesting. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:06:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: I'm not a military guy but - Are we seeing a tank with artillery support go up against infantry with no support? Is that the limit to combined arms that Ukraine is using? I'm pretty certain Ukraine would typically combine infantry with their tanks. If I understand him right I think Jack is right that this was likely one off dash forward by the tank commander. Here's what stood out to me. I also noted the lack of artillery support for the orcs. The russians positively LOVE their artillery. They have it deployed to support their infantry at all the hotspots and it certainly should be able to rain down pain on a tank running down a road like in that video. I wonder if the arty units even knew this group was under attack. From what I've read our intel guys have been saying that russian Coms have been abysmal from the very start of the invasion. There probably wasn't a single working radio in that entire group of orcs. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:09:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Erno86]
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"Ukraine's Azov battalion fires Howitzers near Bakhmut" "Auto-translate" available  Ukraine's Azov battalion fires Howitzers near Bakhmut |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:11:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: So what does Russia have that is man portable that can take out a tank and what do they have that can take out a aircraft and what numbers do they have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Russian_Ground_Forces#Small_arms |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Thermobaric grenades are something I only just learned existed. It's a very different world than when I served. Anyways they are in use by Ukrainian forces. Ukrainian military uses Bulgarian thermobaric grenades  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKXSCErQ2fgI can't find any information on what the lethal blast radius is for it. The interwebs says about 10m. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:20:51 PM EDT
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"25 Russian tanks destroyed in past two days - Footage of destruction of another tank"  25 Russian tanks destroyed in past two days - Footage of destruction of another tank auto-translate available:  ???????? ??????????? 3 ???? |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:24:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: He was 44 years old, but was a retired MG? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By m35ben: For those that think Russia isn't training well here is a video showing them using smoke to obscure there movement. I firmly believe that some of the new guys are getting better training that we are being shown. https://funker530.com/video/russian-column-uses-smoke-screen-to-cross-open-ground/ Firmly agree. A lot of units and #s of mobiks unaccounted for, for a long time. Here’s one guy not coming to the party though. Reports say Rus lost a MG this week. Used to command elite paratroop division, came out of retirement to lead a mobilized motor rifle regiment. Killed in a gunfight with a Ukr sabotage group. Ninth MG to be killed since 2/22. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11721601/Russian-general-Dmitry-Ulyanov-killed-Ukraine-latest-blow-Putin.html He was 44 years old, but was a retired MG? I'm reasonably sure that becoming an MG in the orc army is far less rigorus than becoming a Kentucky Colonel. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:30:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Erno86]
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"Big Explosion! Ukrainian Border Guards Shot Down A Russian Su25 Fighter Jet In Bakhmut!  BIG EXPLOSION! Ukrainian Border Guards Shot Down A Russian Su 25 fighter Jet In Bakhmut! |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:32:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPeacher: I'm reasonably sure that becoming an MG in the orc army is far less rigorus than becoming a Kentucky Colonel. But, certainly not as distinguished, honorable or as highly respected as a Kentucky Colonel. (Present company included.) |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: They're also stationing lots of troops in Belarus, and people here have theorized that training Russian forces is something Lukashenko can do to placate Putin without committing his own troops to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 2/7/2023 5:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: ZOMFG!!!!!!! Look! IT's right in front of you!!! Ukrainians are FUCKING NAZIS!!!111!!!!11!1!!! [sarcasm, folks, sarcasm] Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Dracster: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue their exercises on the border with the Republic of Belarus, this time they are taking place in the Chernobyl exclusion zone." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-02-06_13-42-39_jpg-2701282.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-02-06_13-42-41_jpg-2701283.JPG ZOMFG!!!!!!! Look! IT's right in front of you!!! Ukrainians are FUCKING NAZIS!!!111!!!!11!1!!! [sarcasm, folks, sarcasm] I want to see some tank kill rings on the barrels. Especially on the Leopards when the start using them And the three number company/platoon/tank indentifiers on the turret |
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