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Originally Posted By sq40: That video of her dancing. Mmmm… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uqmshpU5j0 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By sq40: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/finland-will-consider-the-transfer-of-f-a-18-fighters-to-ukraine/ https://mil.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/52489931382_73a1bf7608_o-1.jpg Finland will consider the transfer of F/A-18 fighters to Ukraine Aviation F/A-18 Hornet Fighter jet Finland Military assistance Ukraine The Finnish government, together with other allies, may consider providing Ukraine with F/A-18 Hornet fighters. The Prime Minister of the country, Sanna Marin, said that such a discussion could be raised in Finland, especially since the country was buying the newest fighter jets to replace the current ones. “I think we could discuss the Hornet fighters – whether it would be possible to offer them to Ukraine, what preparation is needed for this,” the Prime Minister said. You can't post her name without a picture. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/Fq5F_ByWAAQfBMw_jpg-2741655.JPG That video of her dancing. Mmmm… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uqmshpU5j0 |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Short version of the change I think the Army has to make to survive the coming budget crunch and be ready: cut from 11 Abn battalions to 5, which would all be Rangers. Invest massively in new equipment that reduces crew requirements—autoloading tanks, SPHs and self propelled mortars. Slash the institutional Army by abandoning the idea that we will ever have a draft, move forces to a strategic and operational reserve and use a smaller active Army (but provide staff officers and higher level commanders for the reserve force from active). It would be a less ready Army but once mobilized, more powerful than we have today and at a substantially reduced cost. One of the more controversial ideas I have for reducing the institutional Army is to end ROTC. I hate the thought of ending the civil-military connection but I would largely make up for it by turning West Point into Sandhurst. Officer candidates would complete civilian education, apply to OCS, be selected, then go for 12 months at West Point. All line officers active and reserve would. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Interesting lessons learned article: Lessons From Ukraine Many Don’t Want to Hear Click To View Spoiler Lessons From Ukraine Many Don’t Want to Hear Link to sauceU.S. Soldiers, assigned to 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment, train with the Integrated Visual Augmentation System and the Enhanced Night Vision Goggles during Project Convergence 2022 (PC22) at Fort Irwin, Calif., Nov. 7, 2022. PC22 brings together members of the All-Service and Multinational force to rigorously test the effectiveness and interoperability of cutting-edge weapons and battle systems. (U.S. Army photo by SGT Thiem Huynh) There is no shortage of commentary on the lessons to be learned from the war in Ukraine. There is an understandable debate unfolding given the tremendous amount of sacrifice, human loss, and suffering. The stakes are high and learning needs to occur. War is, and has always been, the best teacher. It has been nothing short of incredible what David has been doing to Goliath on the Steppes of Ukraine. There are indeed valuable lessons to learn from all sides. Yet, for Western militaries, it is more about the lessons they may not want to hear that will prove to be the most valuable in deterring, preparing, and if necessary, fighting the next war. Much of the West has over invested in other domains (e.g., maritime, air) and niche capabilities, at the expense of combat power on land. The war in Ukraine has validated the need for decisive land combat power to win large-scale wars. These types of wars are far from extinction and finding the right balance of capabilities to wage war in appropriate fashion, remains a fundamental security challenge for Western nations. Historically, military organizations have been known to cling to capabilities long past their ability to offer decisive returns. Put simply, there is a continual sin to fight the way one might wish rather than the way one should, and equally important, one might not know exactly where they might have to fight and in which domains. Conversely, there are continuities in war that do not change, and therefore, an alignment of military concepts and associated capabilities in a dynamic environment remains key. Ukraine is a harbinger of future warfare, and the world is paying close attention. In the face of adversity came extraordinary innovation. The following five lessons bear consideration for changes that need to occur today, not tomorrow, to create advantage in future war. 1. Mass Matters. Attrition warfare is not dead. This mode of warfare emerges when neither side can achieve a clear asymmetric advantage. Standing armies are the only instrument nations can use to prevent, deter, and fight invading aggressors. Mass is required in a war of attrition. Funding and maintaining land power may seem like an expensive insurance policy but doing the opposite is to risk state collapse. Wars can only be won on the ground where nations exist, and people live. Land power is an indispensable capability, even in the Pacific. A lack of appreciation for emerging threats over time has eroded land capabilities in the West. Power withers when it proves frail, and a perceived weakness invites aggression. Key capabilities such as armor, artillery, and engineers cannot be replaced by cyber, space, or any other information-related capabilities. The Ukraine conflict proved they were less decisive than expected. 2. Maritime Operations Are Vulnerable. Expensive naval forces are threatened by inexpensive weaponry. Ukrainian attacks have minimized the impact of the Russian Black Sea fleet and little by little the Russian Navy drifted further back toward the mainland. Naval experts proclaim this is “an unmistakable warning — that today’s run-of-the-mill missiles and commercial data systems can knock even the world’s top warships out of a fight.” China seeks this competitive advantage in the Pacific with “carrier killer” missiles. 3. Deep Attacks by Themselves Are Ineffective. There is a desire to employ rotary attack aircraft – and to some extent, fixed-wing aircraft - deep behind enemy lines for strategic effect. This tactic is practiced routinely in exercises, but it has been proven futile in past wars. In Ukraine, soldiers operating short range anti-aircraft defensive equipment and using small arms fire, have been taking out multi-million-dollar aircraft. Control of the air remains contested and this will be a continual feature of future conflict. Neither side was able to use aviation in a game-changing role. Russian attack regiments had to change their tactics and use aircraft in a combat support role. Likewise, the Ukrainians had to do the same to preserve combat power and support ground maneuver forces. Rather than pursuing deep attacks, the West would benefit more from the development of counter-unmanned aerial systems (UAS) tactics and technologies. Additionally, decades of experience from combat and modern gaming finds “the output of an entire joint force is amplified when synergistic integration across components increases.” Joint capabilities must work together, and in an allied context, strategic lethality can be achieved with the improved integration and interoperability of battle networks. 4. Airborne and Amphibious Warfare Has Been Minimized. These modes of warfare have their place in specialized units but the conduct of these methods at a large-scale, using thousands of soldiers and marines, is resource intensive, high risk, and perhaps even anachronistic. The Russian’s hesitance to execute an amphibious operation is for good reason. The potential gain from such operations is not worth the cost. This painful lesson was learned by Russia’s elite airborne forces, the VDV, at Hostomel airport last year. Their forces were decimated. It might not be time to write an obituary for these types of operations but their use on a large-scale in peer warfighting is limited with contested air space and ubiquitous stand-off weaponry. It might be worth Western nations evaluating their efficacy and determining whether it is time to repurpose these types of units for a role that has increased survivability and lethality. This leads to the next lesson. 5. Artificial Intelligence Has Arrived. It has been said that advanced algorithmic warfare systems equate to having a nuclear weapon. Ukrainian forces have compressed their “kill chains,” and used software engineers on the frontlines to calibrate algorithms for devastating effect. A.I. is not tomorrow’s problem. This enabling technology is being used today and will be more and more prevalent tomorrow. Western nations will need to induce a greater rate of digital transformation to make use of their data and build battle-winning algorithms. U.S. Army Futures Command is forward thinking in this space. The commander, General Rainey, proposes “formation-based lethality.” The future is about integration. In a past RCD article on Project Convergence, we proposed this could be accelerated through the use of experimental units. The Army could profit from emulating past examples like the 11th Air Assault Division (Test) which gave birth to air assault operations. Could a present day experimental unit do the same with manned and unmanned systems teaming, leveraging A.I.? And by possibly adding software engineers to unit formations, could this spark greater collaboration, integration, and testing of concepts? These are the questions to ponder when examining lessons from Ukraine. Conclusion The West can ignore these lessons at their own peril or use them to transform existing capabilities into future war-winning advantages. The danger of dominant military organizations is that, short of lessons learned in the unforgiving crucible of combat, they tend to fall back on comfortable assumptions and ignore any signals of change that contradict their most-cherished strategic beliefs. We can do worse than to listen and learn from the incredible innovation happening in the Ukraine. Matthew Van Wagenen is a major general in the U.S. Army currently serving as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations (DCOS OPS) in the NATO Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE). Arnel P. David is a colonel in the U.S. Army completing a PhD at King’s College London. He is the cofounder of Fight Club International. The views and opinions expressed are those of the authors and do not reflect any entity or organization of the U.S. Government or NATO. They're not wrong. I would add that a few quibbles (such as it tends to minimize Airborne's capability to rapidly reinforce isolated formations, which is something that Airborne is really good at but the the US seldom trains for) which can rapidly increase "mass" of ground forces provided you can achieve local air superiority. Short version of the change I think the Army has to make to survive the coming budget crunch and be ready: cut from 11 Abn battalions to 5, which would all be Rangers. Invest massively in new equipment that reduces crew requirements—autoloading tanks, SPHs and self propelled mortars. Slash the institutional Army by abandoning the idea that we will ever have a draft, move forces to a strategic and operational reserve and use a smaller active Army (but provide staff officers and higher level commanders for the reserve force from active). It would be a less ready Army but once mobilized, more powerful than we have today and at a substantially reduced cost. One of the more controversial ideas I have for reducing the institutional Army is to end ROTC. I hate the thought of ending the civil-military connection but I would largely make up for it by turning West Point into Sandhurst. Officer candidates would complete civilian education, apply to OCS, be selected, then go for 12 months at West Point. All line officers active and reserve would. That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues. If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel. Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet"). Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously. My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis) . I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application. For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point. This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum. Going Forward, a lot will need to change. |
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
A take on Bakhmut. See also recent ISW assessments on Bakhmut. View Quote Yep, looks more like Bakhmut is a trap for the Russian forces. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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"the science" /duh si-ens/ noun: progressive postmodern religious dogma not based in tested hypothesis or facts used to advance an authoritative political ideology
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"'Insects' ran to another house to hide after a drone brings them out of their 'nest'" View Quote “Insects" ran to another house to hide after drone brings them out of their “nest" en masse |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
I know it’s Chuck, but read it anyway. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen. These fuckers are taking notes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Because it is inconvenient. From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed. War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier! I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event. That could cause some panic. I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen. These fuckers are taking notes. The first terror attach by a drone is already long gone from our rearview mirror. The Izzys have been dealing with that crap since the 1990's, and the US dealt with them on occasion in both Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yep, looks more like Bakhmut is a trap for the Russian forces. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
A take on Bakhmut. See also recent ISW assessments on Bakhmut. Yep, looks more like Bakhmut is a trap for the Russian forces. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen. These fuckers are taking notes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Because it is inconvenient. From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed. War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier! I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event. That could cause some panic. I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen. These fuckers are taking notes. Al Nusra and ISIS were making good use of drones years ago in Syria and Iraq, and I believe I've heard of Salafist groups in North Africa implementing them as well. I recall reading back then that during the battle of Mosul, ISIS really terrorized Iraqi SOF with drone drops. It's definitely something that terrorist groups are aware of and have been working towards perfecting. |
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All international laws are invalid, meaningless attempts to constrict American power.
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"Ukrainian soldiers barely avoid Russian bomb as they hide in a trench" View Quote Ukrainian soldiers barely avoid Russian bomb as they hide in a trench |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
Russian TG
The US Army continues to study the experience of the war in Ukraine in the field of UAVs. Last month, members of the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions dropped M67 grenades from an RQ-28A quadcopter at Fort Liberty. Earlier, we published materials from an instructor from one of the American military educational institutions, who, on his own initiative, began to draw the attention of cadets to various options for using quadcopters based on the study of military operations in Ukraine. It is likely that training in this use of drones will be widely implemented in the training programs of advanced American units, including special operations forces. @ok_spn https://t.me/ok_spn/23403 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq9DuH-WAAcRdBo?format=jpg&name=small Different Russian group hunted to extinction at night.
View Quote That is brutal. They certainly have improved their targeting since the beginning of the war. |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By Prime: Good. Not sure where he got this rumor from, but it’s part of a larger theme from him, one that honestly reminds me of things heard in GD. Turkey has increased the supply of weapons to Kyiv! Brilliantly! And the Ministry of Emergency Situations sent cuckolds there, and the Turks were pitied. Here is the answer to all of you, here is your humanity spilling sideways. And I said that it was impossible to feel sorry for them, that no rescuers needed to be sent there, but everyone sang the same song: "we are not like that." Well get it! They will only repay your kindness with evil. And the grain deal will be extended ... https://t.me/Separ13_13/9287 The enemy cannot be pitied, you need to spoil his life in every possible way, kill, blow up, create sabotage, poison, do everything to make them smaller, not take them prisoner. But the traitors play "deals", "giveaways", only they pay for it with the lives of ordinary guys, and the relatives of these traitors at this time are sitting in Dubai, riding yachts... Is this fair? https://t.me/Separ13_13/9288 Different channel claims he was seem “on video”. If history teaches us anything, it is only that it teaches no one anything. Exchanged British mercenary John Cuxucker Aiden Aslin has been identified on video as commanding a troop of crests. But he swore that he revised his attitude and would work as a military commissar. Did the gentlemen fuck us? This has never happened before... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/8668A497-C426-40B2-AC30-D7331AF46F1A-2741886.jpg A platoon of Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut is commanded by an exchanged Briton Aslin Aslin is seen at the end of a video posted online showing Ukrainian troops carrying a wounded man from the front line to the trenches. On June 6, 2022, a court in the DPR sentenced the captive Aiden Aslin to death. And in September, Aslin, along with other captured foreigners, was exchanged for Russian prisoners of war and Viktor Medvedchuk. The Telegraph notes that "a key role" in the release of Pinner and Aslin was played by Roman Abramovich, who personally took them to Saudi Arabia aboard his plane. Along the way, he fed them steaks and tiramisu, talked about football, and gave them an iPhone. And already in early November 2022, Aslin and his colleague Sean Pinner returned to Ukraine. He promised not to take up arms, but to work as a war correspondent, making videos for his YouTube channel. Source: link
Seems to be all based on this image. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/AAmb_JPG-2741906.jpg View Quote Speaking for myself this is a big wgaf from me. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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"Briefly. War. Day 381 - Ukrainian General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" View Quote ???????. ?????. ???? 381. ????????????? |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
Originally Posted By AROKIE: Well that sure is interesting. The Fins sure do want to finish of Russia. View Quote The Finnish defense minister said that they absolutely would not send f18’s to Ukraine. He said that they have zero to spare and that the prime minister did not even discuss the matter with her military. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By m35ben: Abbott but the same track none the less. They are metal track. https://i.imgur.com/I69Ux7V.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Stormer. https://i.imgur.com/I69Ux7V.jpg A band track is available for Stormer but no one has bought it yet. |
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Just a stranger on the bus trying to find his way home.
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"Ukrainian Armed Forces in gunfight with Russian tank in Luhansk Oblast" View Quote Ukrainian Armed Forces in gunfight with Russian tank in Luhansk Oblast |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
A strange tanker passed around Nord Stream before the explosions, - Business Insider.
The publication reports that the Danish OSINT analyst Oliver Alexander drew attention to the strange ship. Thus, about three of the four lines of the pipeline from 6 to 12 September (explosions occurred on 26 September) passed the tanker Minerva Julie, heading east from Rotterdam under the Greek flag. It is noted that on September 6, he suddenly stopped in the middle of the Baltic Sea and stayed there for almost a week. After that, the tanker went by sea to Tallinn, and then arrived in St. Petersburg, where it moored on 18 September. The owners of the vessel explained this delay by the fact that the crew was waiting for further instructions on the route. The publication believes that the testimonies of the crew members can give investigators valuable information. https://t.me/ragnarockkyiv/47588 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By kncook: Their excuse is that Russians today "aren't anything like Godless commies". They just happen to be lead by all former KGB commies that lamented the fall of the Soviet Union as "the greatest of tragedies" but they aren't commies anymore since they wear suits instead of uniforms. View Quote Because they are not communist. Russia/Putin are autocratic, not communist. Russia has a higher economic freedom score than Ukraine (Heritage Foundation - 2022). Neither are communist. Russia is autocratic. MAGA is a populist offshoot based on conservatism, and this isn't the thread for it but people can't help shitting on Trump. To convince those who don't trust what they're told by the government or the media to believe them in this case takes time. You cant convince them or force them to agree, they have to do that on their own over time. (Again see American lack of enthusiasm for any kind of assistance during WW2 pre Pearl Harbor) Stupid insulting memes whose only goal is to get a negative reaction aren't going to help, and are only going to increase the amount of people who go "Fuck both sides". |
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Originally Posted By CharlieR: Airborne forces are economical. 2000 jumpers x minimum of 4 jumps per year, divided by 100 jumpers per C-17, 90 minutes flight time. 23k$ per flight hour. It’s the cost of less then one half of one tank. To train a light brigade as airborne, per year. Parachutes are paid for. Compared to the amphibious option, it’s much cheaper to maintain and concentrates capabilities and focus. View Quote You left a lot out. Airborne infantry units cost 10% more than light infantry and 1/3 the price of mech (not including purchasing equipment). That also doesn’t include the higher VA costs. More importantly, we will never jump anywhere close to 11 battalions again. |
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"Arms manufacturers struggle to supply Ukraine with enough ammunition | PBS NEWSHOUR View Quote Arms manufacturers struggle to supply Ukraine with enough ammunition |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq9DuH-WAAcRdBo?format=jpg&name=small Different Russian group hunted to extinction at night.
View Quote NICE! Someone should do a remake of that one Marilyn Manson song, but re-title it "The Beautiful Pieces of People" using this video (and others like this) as a backdrop. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Most pre-war Russian units have likely been reconstituted multiple times at this point due to casualties. I recently saw videos of VDV near Kreminna, and their performance was basically indistinguishable from mobiks, TDF, etc. I think between the initial failed push to Kyiv, defending the right bank of the Dnipro around Kherson, and fighting around Kreminna/Savatove, the pre-war VDV has basically ceased to exist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Jeezes. I wonder how many if any of the original VDV are still alive. Most pre-war Russian units have likely been reconstituted multiple times at this point due to casualties. I recently saw videos of VDV near Kreminna, and their performance was basically indistinguishable from mobiks, TDF, etc. I think between the initial failed push to Kyiv, defending the right bank of the Dnipro around Kherson, and fighting around Kreminna/Savatove, the pre-war VDV has basically ceased to exist. Yeah in that I have no doubt! |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I seem to be busy with life or something, I'm down to reading one in four pages of this thread from one in three. Have we done this episode with Solovyov yet?
What I find really interesting here is Solovyov talking about the need to calculate what level of resources is needed to meet the objectives. Which is what did NOT happen prior to the war. Or maybe they thought they did, but got all their assumptions wrong, which comes to the same thing. The planning calculations need to account for assumptions being wrong, which is how we get to what I think was called the Powell doctrine: don't bring the force you need, bring overwhelming force. They also repeat the same story: we're fighting NATO, we're fighting to restore the historic lands of the Russian Empire. At one point, he asks what exactly is the extent of that, but nobody answers. View Quote ‘ Solovyov has always enthusiastically repeated the party line and I think he is here as well. It sounded to me like he’s starting to lay the groundwork for “non-victory.” But he isn’t going to look back and start asking questions about who fucked up at the top, unless the scapegoat has already been chosen. Nor will he ever admit the war was wrong. They’ll focus on the technical aspects of why NATO weapons were unexpectedly good, why they didn’t have enough arty ammo on hand, which expendable battalion quartermasters sold their unit radios on ebay, and which domestic enemies really helped NATO. Once the defeat starts to sink in and anger grows at their losses, don’t be surprise if coded antisemitism rears its head in Russia. I don’t think calling NATO the real enemy should be thought of as just an excuse for defeat. Carl Schmidt’s “permanent state of emergency” and the idea that “politics begins by identifying the enemy” are the likely way forward for Russia. We need to start preparing now to counter massively increased disinfo ops, cyberwar, and even direct action against US interests by forces like Wagner as the Russian Empire begins to crumble. |
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Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Because they are not communist. Russia/Putin are autocratic, not communist. Russia has a higher economic freedom score than Ukraine (Heritage Foundation - 2022). Neither are communist. Russia is autocratic. MAGA is a populist offshoot based on conservatism, and this isn't the thread for it but people can't help shitting on Trump. To convince those who don't trust what they're told by the government or the media to believe them in this case takes time. You cant convince them or force them to agree, they have to do that on their own over time. (Again see American lack of enthusiasm for any kind of assistance during WW2 pre Pearl Harbor) Stupid insulting memes whose only goal is to get a negative reaction aren't going to help, and are only going to increase the amount of people who go "Fuck both sides". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By kncook: Their excuse is that Russians today "aren't anything like Godless commies". They just happen to be lead by all former KGB commies that lamented the fall of the Soviet Union as "the greatest of tragedies" but they aren't commies anymore since they wear suits instead of uniforms. Because they are not communist. Russia/Putin are autocratic, not communist. Russia has a higher economic freedom score than Ukraine (Heritage Foundation - 2022). Neither are communist. Russia is autocratic. MAGA is a populist offshoot based on conservatism, and this isn't the thread for it but people can't help shitting on Trump. To convince those who don't trust what they're told by the government or the media to believe them in this case takes time. You cant convince them or force them to agree, they have to do that on their own over time. (Again see American lack of enthusiasm for any kind of assistance during WW2 pre Pearl Harbor) Stupid insulting memes whose only goal is to get a negative reaction aren't going to help, and are only going to increase the amount of people who go "Fuck both sides". Ok. While some of that is relevant the first part about “economic freedom” is clown show type statement. Kinda like saying North Korea is a model democracy because Kim gets 110% of the vote. |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
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"I'd rather wear heavy equipment than wear the light ring of a slave around my neck."
quote: Cossack soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - 2022 "Energy and persistence conquer all things." quote: Benjamin Franklin |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: I have watched at least a half dozen of his videos. He is a Russian apologists. He fully supports their position regarding NATO expansion, the EU and the idea that Russia gets a say in how its neighbors align themselves in a free world. Nowhere does he criticize Russia's actions as the reason why these nations want to join NATO and the EU, that is galling IMO. Nothing happens in a vacuum. If it were not for the Soviet Union's actions after WWII and now Russia's actions, NATO would never have been formed to begin with. The alliance exists because we are dealing with an expansionist government with bayonets poking toward us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Russian apologist and unapologetic about it. He should be in trench in Ukraine trying to learn Russian better. Um, no he isn't. And you clearly didn't watch the video if you think he is. I have watched at least a half dozen of his videos. He is a Russian apologists. He fully supports their position regarding NATO expansion, the EU and the idea that Russia gets a say in how its neighbors align themselves in a free world. Nowhere does he criticize Russia's actions as the reason why these nations want to join NATO and the EU, that is galling IMO. Nothing happens in a vacuum. If it were not for the Soviet Union's actions after WWII and now Russia's actions, NATO would never have been formed to begin with. The alliance exists because we are dealing with an expansionist government with bayonets poking toward us. I think there is some confusion about who is being called a Russian apologist. |
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Two Russian 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 2C1 "Carnation" under the fire of Ukrainian ARTY💥💥💥
Donetsk direction.
"Breakfast for orcs"
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Because Russia uses money, black mail, intimidation and election fraud to make it happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Ok, that sheds some light. I assumed that since 2008, Georgia was very anti-Russian. So many fighters from Georgia have died in Ukraine. How the hell did a pro-Russian get into office in Georgia??? Because Russia uses money, black mail, intimidation and election fraud to make it happen. That is something we should remind F-Ukes guys about. Ukraine was invaded because THEY WERE SO UPSET OVER RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THEIR ELECTION THAT THEY ACTUALLY THROUGH THE BUMS OUT. Unlike us. Glory to the heroes. |
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Deplorable fan of liberty
“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.” |
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Erno86: "'Insects' ran to another house to hide after a drone brings them out of their 'nest'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3w-29ykbw4 Look at that nice house, solar panel on roof and all, those orcs hid by. Fuck them for scorching that earth with their very feet. |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Because Russia uses money, black mail, intimidation and election fraud to make it happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Ok, that sheds some light. I assumed that since 2008, Georgia was very anti-Russian. So many fighters from Georgia have died in Ukraine. How the hell did a pro-Russian get into office in Georgia??? Because Russia uses money, black mail, intimidation and election fraud to make it happen. And now Georgia is making noise just like Ukraine did after 2012. Go Georgia! |
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Deplorable fan of liberty
“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.” |
Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Yes push them further into a pro Russian sphere, genius. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By sq40: That is fucking awesome. I will Definitely use that on assholes. Yes push them further into a pro Russian sphere, genius. If someone is making common cause with the enemies of America, they should be called out on it as clearly as possible. |
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Al Nusra and ISIS were making good use of drones years ago in Syria and Iraq, and I believe I've heard of Salafist groups in North Africa implementing them as well. I recall reading back then that during the battle of Mosul, ISIS really terrorized Iraqi SOF with drone drops. It's definitely something that terrorist groups are aware of and have been working towards perfecting. View Quote I've been thinking more about drug cartels or gangs hitting police stations or courthouses or judge's families in retaliation for any anti-cartel/gang action. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
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