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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
If he said that about the germans, he would get a time out.  Trust me.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: This shit fucks with my head Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Dracster: "Su-25 of the 299th tactical aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force, armed with the American Zuni NAR." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-10_04-09-53_jpg-2812780.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-10_04-09-53__2__jpg-2812781.JPG As a Cold War kid who did a lot of airplane models and overall am an aviation junkie it’s pretty crazy and cool at the same time. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:22:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: hmmm think they could rig up an exocet conversion.... |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ike838: I wouldn't mind seeing B-52s vs Wagner, It was fun to watch the last time it happened. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:29:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ_Mike]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: ”The ground in Ukraine is still boggy and wet. In some places, there are still large lakes in the fields. The conditions for a comprehensive offensive have not yet been in place in recent weeks," German Inspector General Breuer told Deutsche Presse-Agentur in Berlin after a visit to Ukraine. "However, it became clear to me in all the talks that planning for the Ukrainian offensive is underway." For what it is worth. In all fairness the Germans have an intimate understanding of Ukrainian mud. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:30:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: Denys Davydov said something interesting on youtube today. The commander of the Ukrainian Army has regular zoom meetings with his Nato counterparts. He canceled today and said he didn't have time. That might be a clue something is imminent in the works. He may just have had explosive diarrhea. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:33:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Interview time
 American Fighting In Ukraine Runs Through Live Russian Minefield |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:44:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:46:28 PM EDT
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I've heard some talk that the long range missile the UK may be planning to purchase for Ukraine may end up being the Bora (aka Khan) made by Roketsan in Turkey. It has a max range of 280 km, packs a sizable warhead and has an accuracy of less than 10 m CEP.
 If options like ATACMS and the Israeli Lora are a no go, then this would seem to be a suitable alternative. The UK purchasing it direct from Turkish industry would also take some of the heat off the Turkish government, so they may allow it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:58:38 PM EDT
[#10]
 American Fighting In Ukraine Survives A Russian Missile |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:06:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyInfantryVet]
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 Russia Just Lost the Biggest Tank Battle of the War Cool video just released on Youtube. Talking about the battle of Vuhledar and such. Most of us here know info contained in the video. I thought it was still fun to watch. Regardless it's cool to have this stuff is being made for the general public to know what's going on. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:15:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: "Knocked-out Ukrainian HMMWVs in Bakhmut" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-09_03-53-18__2__jpg-2812808.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-09_03-53-18__3__jpg-2812810.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-09_03-53-18_jpg-2812811.JPG  Hope they kept the occupants safe. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:32:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Nice look at Ukrainian tactics in the battle of Vuhledar.
Russia Just Lost the Biggest Tank Battle of the War |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:46:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: I'm impressed with how maneuverable those missiles are Waiting for some Laser Dome action Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Side note: Check that shit out. Waiting for some Laser Dome action Real-life Macross Missiles. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:49:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I'm sure they can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: hmmm think they could rig up an exact conversion.... Been saying the whole thread. I think they already have it and are waiting for the right moment. Maybe catch a corvette flotilla while launching, or coordinate it with a surface drone attack. Something to cause distraction while the Harpoons come in. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 1:06:28 AM EDT
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The Ukrainians getting long range strike capability is a massive game changer. I'm of the opinion that a very large reason that we've seen a decrease in the amount of artillery the Russians are shooting is that HIMARS strikes have forced them to move their depots out of range, and that their logistics are such a cluster fuck that this has made it difficult to get arty rounds to the front in comparable numbers to pre-HIMARS days. Of course, the Russians have burned through a lot of arty ammo, but I think that being forced to move their depots out of HIMARS range is another factor. If Ukraine gets long range strike capability, that's going to force them to move their depots and logistical hubs even further away from the front, thus straining their logistics even more.
I'd also of the opinion that they need boatloads of DPICMs, and they need Western aircraft of some sort. The gloves really need to come off, while the political will and ability to support Ukraine remain. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 1:13:37 AM EDT
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Also, I think the Biden Administration is wrong to think that the UK sending long range strike capability will take pressure off of them to deliver ATACMS. If the UK does it and the US doesn't, it's just going to give off the impression of cowardice.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 1:28:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: The Ukrainians getting long range strike capability is a massive game changer. I'm of the opinion that a very large reason that we've seen a decrease in the amount of artillery the Russians are shooting is that HIMARS strikes have forced them to move their depots out of range, and that their logistics are such a cluster fuck that this has made it difficult to get arty rounds to the front in comparable numbers to pre-HIMARS days. Of course, the Russians have burned through a lot of arty ammo, but I think that being forced to move their depots out of HIMARS range is another factor. If Ukraine gets long range strike capability, that's going to force them to move their depots and logistical hubs even further away from the front, thus straining their logistics even more. I'd also of the opinion that they need boatloads of DPICMs, and they need Western aircraft of some sort. The gloves really need to come off, while the political will and ability to support Ukraine remain. Moving depots back = more trucks needed to move forward, more gas to fuel the trucks, more people to load and unload the trucks, more wear and tear on an already insufficient truck fleet. I think we should already be supplying them. But who knows, maybe we want to go in unlubed when it’ll hurt them the most. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 1:33:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 1:38:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fvy2QXjWYAIhuKi?format=jpg&name=small CHYNA and their belt and salt road bullshit. They got that well established in Africa now. Fuck that noise. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:20:15 AM EDT
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Glory to the heroes!
 Fuck Russia, Wagner, Prigorzhin and all the other barbarians perpetrating this hell on Ukrainians. May the burn and wail lamentations in their defeat. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:22:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I really want to see stuff like this working.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZQkimvP4UThe 35mm AHEAD projectile is really a game changer in terms of hit probability. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:26:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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NATO GOES TO WAR!! PUTIN SHITS BRICKS!!
       Ah shucks…maybe next week? https://twitter.com/tallbarfin/status/1656544425726582784 Today, #Aurora23 joint exercise has ended. A total of 26,000 soldiers from Sweden and more than ten partner countries, including Finland, participated in the exercise. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:30:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Glory to the heroes!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0743-2812904.jpg Fuck Russia, Wagner, Prigorzhin and all the other barbarians perpetrating this hell on Ukrainians. May the burn and wail lamentations in their defeat. If I ever get a tattoo it may be something to do with this guy. The spirit of freedom fighters is worthy of remembrance. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:33:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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It is amazing to see orcs still clumping together after all the drone drops they have suffered. Keep it up! Gives new meaning to cluster bomb. Video embedded
https://twitter.com/michaelputinch/status/1656543599369105413 |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:34:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: spydercomonkey]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I've heard some talk that the long range missile the UK may be planning to purchase for Ukraine may end up being the Bora (aka Khan) made by Roketsan in Turkey. It has a max range of 280 km, packs a sizable warhead and has an accuracy of less than 10 m CEP. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DePRwQPX0AAn07Z?format=jpg&name=small If options like ATACMS and the Israeli Lora are a no go, then this would seem to be a suitable alternative. The UK purchasing it direct from Turkish industry would also take some of the heat off the Turkish government, so they may allow it. Britain prepares to send long-range missiles to Ukraine The U.K. is pushing the Biden administration into providing Ukraine with weapons that can reach further into Russian-held territory https://archive.ph/EWtZ6 Britain, which has prided itself on being ahead of its Western allies in introducing new weapons systems to Ukraine, now appears poised to send Kyiv the long-range missiles the Biden administration has long denied it. No final decision has been made, according to a British official who declined to confirm the type, timing or quantity of weaponry under consideration. But the notice is a substantive step toward Britain itself supplying such munitions, and the requested specifications and capabilities closely match its air-launched Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Ukraine has long pleaded with Western nations for longer range missiles, arguing that such weapons could change the course of the war by allowing its forces to target Russian command centers, supply lines, ammunition and fuel dumps deep inside Crimea and Russian-held territory in eastern Ukraine. As Kyiv prepares to launch a major counteroffensive as soon as within the next several weeks, the ability to strike far behind Russia’s front lines would help clear the way for a ground assault with tanks and infantry troops. Storm Shadows can be mounted on Ukraine’s Soviet-made jets and reach into Russian territory. Kyiv has long sought that capability, and tried to ease Western escalation fears with pledges it would refrain from using donated weapons in such attacks. “If we could strike at a distance of up to 300 kilometers, the Russian army wouldn’t be able to provide defense and will have to lose,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told the European Union earlier this year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has dismissed talk among Ukraine’s benefactors of their depleted stockpiles. “If there is a moment in this conflict we can make a difference, why not seize it? What are we waiting for?” he asked of European allies at the Munich Security Conference in February. “What is the purpose of these stockpiles? If the weapons are degrading Russian armed forces, that is increasing our security.” |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:37:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Also, I think the Biden Administration is wrong to think that the UK sending long range strike capability will take pressure off of them to deliver ATACMS. If the UK does it and the US doesn't, it's just going to give off the impression of cowardice. Hoping the UK's missile deliveries shames the US into providing ATACMS. Of course, the US has disabled the ATACMS launch ability of current HIMARS sent to Ukraine. Hopefully thats a simple code change otherwise brand new HIMARS / M270's will need to be sent. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:43:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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We will die like dogs…video embed
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:43:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:49:08 AM EDT
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Best before/after map of recent Bakhmut changes that so have seen.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/11/russians-retreated-in-places-up-to-2-km-near-bakhmut-ukrainian-commander-says/ 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 2:58:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:01:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:06:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: It is amazing to see orcs still clumping together after all the drone drops they have suffered. Keep it up! Gives new meaning to cluster bomb. Video embedded https://twitter.com/michaelputinch/status/1656543599369105413 I guess it's a fundamental human instinct to gather together for protection. It worked better against wolves then against killer drones... |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:39:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryGreat footage. More details. https://media.defense.gov/2023/May/09/2003218554/-1/-1/1/JOINT_CSA_HUNTING_RU_INTEL_SNAKE_MALWARE_20230509.PDF |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:54:48 AM EDT
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Description from TG, video in Tweet. Footage of the assault by the Extreme tourism company group together with the 15th separate battalion of the 128th OGSHBr of one of the settlements of the Luhansk region. Everything went according to plan: our BMPs flew into the settlement, advancing towards the center with almost no resistance, but at some point an enemy tank appeared, destroying everything in front of it... From that moment on, everything went wrong: The NLAW and Corsair did not fire, the RPG-7 did not hit, the RPG-18 only damaged the tank's mounting equipment, depriving it of communication (from intercepts), the Javelin could not get the tank behind the houses. In a tank duel, our tank "knocked off" and the crew abandoned it. Time was lost and ours was deliciously covered by enemy artillery. We were forced to leave the settlement... P.S. After some time, the settlement was liberated, but this is a completely different story https://t.me/operativnoZSU
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:58:04 AM EDT
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Tatarigami thread.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656338769602019341.html |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:23:20 AM EDT
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I think time favors Ukraine. Russia isn’t going to materially improve in the next 1-3 months. On the other hand, every month more equipment arrives for Ukraine and more troops are trained. Smart call.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Tatarigami thread.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656338769602019341.html Some good points. The Russian infantry isn’t improving. They rely heavily on artillery. I think the long range weapons like storm shadow could further crimp their logistics. Some analyst said that after HIMARS arrived Russia had to move its supply depots back 30km. This required ten times more trucks which they do not have to move ammo to the front and resulted in a dramatic drop in shells per day being fired. Force those depots back 100-200km and blow more rail bridges and Russian logistics would grind to a halt. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:36:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!!
Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:38:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Sink the Black Sea fleet! |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:40:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg All analysis said by September but WOW.. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Sink the Black Sea fleet! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Sink the Black Sea fleet! No kidding!!! Excerpt… The Storm Shadow is a long-range cruise missile with stealth capabilities, jointly developed by the UK and France, which is typically launched from the air. With a firing range in excess of 250km, or 155 miles, it is just short of the 185-mile range capability of the US-made surface-to-surface Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, that Ukraine has long asked for. Critically, the Storm Shadow has the range to strike deep into Russian-held territory in Eastern Ukraine. A Western official told CNN that the UK has received assurances from the Ukrainian government that these missiles will be used only within Ukrainian sovereign territory and not inside Russia. UK officials have made frequent public statements identifying Crimea as Ukrainian sovereign territory, describing it as “illegally annexed.” The missile is “a real game changer from a range perspective,” a senior US military official told CNN and gives Kyiv a capability it has been requesting since the outset of the war. As CNN has reported, Ukraine’s current maximum range on US-provided weapons is around 49 miles. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:42:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: All analysis said by September but WOW.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg All analysis said by September but WOW.. Those crafty Brits with their understatement. Love those guys! This is the type of move that could lead to bazillions in sales for being unabashed leaders and willing to do the needful. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:46:20 AM EDT
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As an American I am fuckin’ proud of our Atlantic cousins!
This is not the first time Britain has gone further than the US in the weaponry it has been prepared to send to Ukraine. It was the first ally to announce it was sending modern Western tanks to Ukraine, in January pledging 14 Challenge 2 tanks before the US announced it would contribute M-1 Abrams tanks shortly after. Earlier this year, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak signaled that Britain was considering sending long-range weapons. “We must help Ukraine to shield its cities from Russian bombs and Iranian drones,” Sunak said at the Munich Security Conference on February 18. “And that’s why the UK will be the first country to provide Ukraine with longer-range weapons.” |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:00:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:08:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Hell yes!!!! Lets kick this thing off! cant wait to see the targets they chose to decimate with these bad boys! |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:15:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: The Graf Zeppelins were critical |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:27:13 AM EDT
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I wonder what they plan on launching them off of
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:27:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bikedamon]
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