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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:04:47 PM EST
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4001 ghost page
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:06:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ERNURSE:
@AROKIE, I live in Seal Rock, Oregon central coast, right on the beach and live to fish. If you make it down this way let me know. Halibut is on the menu tonight.
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Nice! I love me some halibut! Sucks the Chinook season got closed but should be a decent Pink run this year in Puget sound, but we will see! thanks for the invite! If I'm ever round your part of the woods I'll look you up!
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:07:36 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:08:07 PM EST
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Well, now we know the reports are true, and it must be quite a bit worse for the Russians than any of our good news reports. They must really be hurting for Tass to deny it.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:15:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
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Nice to see OP!
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:20:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ike838:



Looks smooth till you get to the landing gear. Does a suicide drone need landing gear?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv3B3dxWIAAIK8u?format=jpg&name=900x900



Looks smooth till you get to the landing gear. Does a suicide drone need landing gear?
I want to know Warhead weight.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:28:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
When Abrams enters the fight

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The Team America song would be even better.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:31:20 PM EST
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I’m dying!
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
I wonder what condition those rear area trenches are in.  Vertical sides, mud season, no reinforcement, no maintenance.  Most must have filled halfway back in by now.

From the pics I've seen some are reinforced with wood. But your right who knows really

The man with 4000!  Well done!


#25 on 4K! Aaahahahhaha

GOATS GOATS GOATS!
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I’m dying!


You and me both brotha! All this pent up counteroffensive anticipation-I know I gotta save some 1’s and alfalfa for the big show tho!!
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:36:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:


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Here you go. Free does better with Europeans though.

Dodge commercial (America Fuck Yeah!)

Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:40:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By doc540:
2000k by 7/4
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Your kidding.  WAY WAY Before then.  Probably around May 15 somewhere in there.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:51:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By iggy1337:
As we near page 4000 of a 3 page war I want to once more thank the posters that make this tread the go to news source.

I firmly am of the opinion that this is the big one in determining the world order for the next 50 or 100 years.
When the Ukrainians halted Russian expansion they sent a message to all the despots and shitholes that pine for a old timey wars of conquest. China, Iran ect would have been hugely embolded to play fuck fuck games on the world stage. India and it's new found cock sucking anti Western media also seemed to forget that actual Indian people do best when functioning in western societies, and life in that sewer masqerading as country will forever remain shit for the large as long as they stick with their toxic commie like culture and superstitions

Russia has proven themsleves the AIDS of the international comunity. In the end once more the Russian people's actual enemy is the Russian.gov, they had the oppertunity to not go in with the tarded cult of personality redux but for some reason it was like a moth to a flame.

So once more a big thanks to the contributers here and that make this tread a must visit for daily updates. The wide variaty of sources posted and analysis of what's going on are unmached by any media outlet IMO
(If I'm leaving anybody out sry, off the top of my head and random order):

@AlmightyTallest
@Prime
@m35ben
@Fadesun
@Easterner
@Ryan_Ruck
@ArmyInfantryVet
@Capta
@AROKIE
@MelGibsonEnthusiast
@ITCHY-FINGER
@Swede1986
@ludder093
@dillydilly
@gentlemanfarmer
@Lorazepam
@Ryan_Scott
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Here here!
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:54:29 PM EST
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Gender benders! Tempted to ask GD how they feel about rooting for men identifying as women

Link Posted: 5/11/2023 8:56:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Gender benders! Tempted to ask GD how they feel about rooting for men identifying as women

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Bud Lightski brigade
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:02:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:03:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K0UA:



Your kidding.  WAY WAY Before then.  Probably around May 15 somewhere in there.
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Originally Posted By K0UA:
Originally Posted By doc540:
2000k by 7/4



Your kidding.  WAY WAY Before then.  Probably around May 15 somewhere in there.


Look closer.

He stated 2,000,000 by 7/4.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:05:03 PM EST
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Starsky is on a meme kick too, he’s got a bunch of these up lol

Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:06:19 PM EST
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Bud Lightski brigade
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:07:03 PM EST
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ISW assessment for May 11th.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-11-2023

The deployment of low-quality Russian forces on the flanks around Bakhmut suggests that the Russian MoD has largely abandoned the aim of encircling a significant number of Ukrainian forces there. The Russian MoD likely began a broader deprioritization of the Bakhmut effort by January 2023 when the MoD cut off Wagner Group penal recruitment efforts, which likely prompted Prigozhin to ramp up the Soledar-Bakhmut effort in January and publicly complain about the lack of MoD support for his efforts starting in February 2023.[5] The Russian MoD briefly allocated more resources to the Bakhmut front line in March and April by sending T-90 tanks and Russian Airborne (VDV) forces to the Bakhmut area and assigning mobilized reservists to Wagner, however.[6] Prigozhin claimed on April 24 that the Russian MoD only deployed irregular and degraded units to hold Bakhmut’s flanks, and the inability of these units to fulfill even this limited mission indicates that Russian flanks in Bakhmut and other similarly-manned areas of the front are likely vulnerable to Ukrainian counterattacks.[7] The MoD’s allocation of forces combined with changes in the geometry of the battlespace also suggests that the danger of a Russian encirclement of significant Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut may have passed. Wagner forces will likely continue conducting frontal assaults in Bakhmut, which would allow Ukrainian forces to conduct organized withdrawals from threatened areas in a shallower partial envelopment rather than facing encirclement on a large scale.
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:10:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts:
Can you imagine how demoralizing it would be if Ukraine can encircle Bakhmut after the Russians spent months and lost 50k troops to almost take it?  Especially if Wagner is wiped out or captured.
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Stalingrad. The Germans took 99% of the city, only the river bank remained in Russian hands. Then the Russian counteroffensive broke the German lines to the north and south, encircled the ruined city.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:10:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Starsky is on a meme kick too, he's got a bunch of these up lol

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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:13:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Starsky is on a meme kick too, he's got a bunch of these up lol

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Some of those were brutal
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:15:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:21:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Stalingrad. The Germans took 99% of the city, only the river bank remained in Russian hands. Then the Russian counteroffensive broke the German lines to the north and south, encircled the ruined city.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts:
Can you imagine how demoralizing it would be if Ukraine can encircle Bakhmut after the Russians spent months and lost 50k troops to almost take it?  Especially if Wagner is wiped out or captured.

Stalingrad. The Germans took 99% of the city, only the river bank remained in Russian hands. Then the Russian counteroffensive broke the German lines to the north and south, encircled the ruined city.

Mmmm has a nice rhyme to it.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:24:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Good catch. The art was not clicking for me.

If that has air burst shells it would be horrendous. Until a FPV drone shows up!
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
This looks like an odd vehicle. A 57 mm auto cannon but looks like it is manned externally?? "OK, I'm going to need another volunteer to man the cannon "

Anyone have background on this beast and why the VDV would be using it?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0765-2813595.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0766-2813596.jpg


Idk but it's badass, I imagine it's used to sweeping trenches, (armor art) gave me the hint lol. Which is pretty good art!

Good catch. The art was not clicking for me.

If that has air burst shells it would be horrendous. Until a FPV drone shows up!

The Ukrainians have been doing the same thing with S-60s for a while now. They're used as rapid, direct-fire, short-range artillery. They tear hell out of bunkers and such.

The witch with the broom might be portraying Baba Yaga, although the painting is a little more shapely than her legend says.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:24:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Gender benders! Tempted to ask GD how they feel about rooting for men identifying as women

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LOL. Move to Russia to avoid the globohome, then identify as a woman to avoid getting drafted. Get drafted anyway and raped regularly in your two weeks of basic...
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:24:57 PM EST
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Sad for the “normal” people in Russia. But they need to just go home.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 9:55:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Broken Arrow! Say again, Broken Arrow!
“ARFCOM Keyboard Brigade is being overwhelmed. We need resupply ASAP! Running out of coffee, need more wrist splints, and for God’s sake send more F5 keys!!!”
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By The_Gooch:
Well it looks like my productivity is shot to hell for the foreseeable future(F5,F5,F5) like it was during the summer/fall when Russia was getting its shit pushed in.

Broken Arrow! Say again, Broken Arrow!
“ARFCOM Keyboard Brigade is being overwhelmed. We need resupply ASAP! Running out of coffee, need more wrist splints, and for God’s sake send more F5 keys!!!”

I told this story before but in case anyone missed it - I’m a 20+ year season ticket holder at the University of Texas.  Last fall I skipped the Texas-Alabama game because the Kharkiv offensive was in full swing.  I regret nothing.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:04:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Here you go. Free does better with Europeans though.

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@jafrush
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:05:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Sad for the “normal” people in Russia. But they need to just go home.
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I see the suggestions she is receiving are very direct and to the point.

The suggestions are also very valid. Most are telling her to tell her husband and his friends to surrender to the Ukrainians and stop being useful idiots for Putin, that the Ukrainians will treat Russian POW's far better than the Russian government has treated them.

Savage perhaps, but very true.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:11:33 PM EST
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This is as good as the counteroffensive actually starting. Add anxiety to all the troops, not just those actively in combat.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:12:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts:
Can you imagine how demoralizing it would be if Ukraine can encircle Bakhmut after the Russians spent months and lost 50k troops to almost take it?  Especially if Wagner is wiped out or captured.
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I think a big push for Bakhmut would be the perfect feint. The russians would try to send all available troops to support Bakhmut no matter the cost. They wouldn't be able to stop themselves.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:13:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

I want them to get Western aircraft, but I can at least sort of understand the rationale behind why it hasn't happened yet. There's only a certain amount of funds allocated for Ukraine, and getting more passed with the GOP controlled house might prove to be difficult. Thus, it's smart to supply the most in demand stuff, and I think decision makers may have come to the conclusion that a handful of F16s aren't going to be a significant addition. I think they'd rather continue supplying, say, 155mm instead, because that's much more important for keeping Ukraine alive.

Refusing to send long range munitions is purely cowardice, though. There's valid concerns about our own stockpiles of ATACMS, but I don't think that's what's motivating the Biden Administration not to send them. I think it's just fear of escalation and Biden being the dove that he is (this is the same guy who argued against the Bin Laden raid). It's the same thing with cluster munitions. Ukraine wants them, we have large stockpiles, and we can't use them ourselves. Not sending them is solely due to political concerns and concerns about optics.
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Every bit helps. Especially now that these are Storm Shadow capable!


Oof!

I want them to get Western aircraft, but I can at least sort of understand the rationale behind why it hasn't happened yet. There's only a certain amount of funds allocated for Ukraine, and getting more passed with the GOP controlled house might prove to be difficult. Thus, it's smart to supply the most in demand stuff, and I think decision makers may have come to the conclusion that a handful of F16s aren't going to be a significant addition. I think they'd rather continue supplying, say, 155mm instead, because that's much more important for keeping Ukraine alive.

Refusing to send long range munitions is purely cowardice, though. There's valid concerns about our own stockpiles of ATACMS, but I don't think that's what's motivating the Biden Administration not to send them. I think it's just fear of escalation and Biden being the dove that he is (this is the same guy who argued against the Bin Laden raid). It's the same thing with cluster munitions. Ukraine wants them, we have large stockpiles, and we can't use them ourselves. Not sending them is solely due to political concerns and concerns about optics.

The whole ‘western jets” thing may just be a canard.  I’ve watched a few of the more professionally oriented commentaries on the issue, and there’s agreement that Gripen was the only possible short-term answer.  With Sweden being kept out of NATO for now, they aren’t keen on handing over a lot of their own AC.  F16 may well be the long-term answer, but it would need a major, major capitol improvement project in Ukraine.  New runways which are well-maintained, and a large number of them to serve as alternates.  That’s the biggest obstacle along with shelters and the infrastructure to support a dispersed air force in the field.  These are all huge problems which are totally glossed over most of the time.
One commentator made the point that the best case would be a squadron of Gripens with Meteor, with the goal mainly to push Russian planes back from the line, keep them at risk, and cause attrition.
IMO the west is just milking the issue as a means of “escalation management” - that is, they threaten to send jets so that Russia can be pleased that we only sent GMLRS/GLSDB.  In reality, GMLRS/GLSDB (and yes, ATACMS should be there too) is providing Ukraine FAR more practical utility than jets.
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Mastery strategery hits a snag…


Russia’s counter-counter-offensive rolls forward
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:18:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
If Ukraine is taking ground without it being an offensive then the offensive may be nuts.  None of us really know though right now
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I think we are seeing the beginning of some pushes, but not the promised counter offensive yet, Ukraine has been shaping the battlefield for awhile now. Great to instill panic and fear in your enemy, then when and where he doesnt expect it you push and divide. I dont think the ground and mud has subsided enough for the whole push yet. Everyone should watch President Zelenskys speech today.
If Ukraine is taking ground without it being an offensive then the offensive may be nuts.  None of us really know though right now

We don’t know details but there are scattered reports that Ukraine is using HIMARS to bonk tactical targets, bunkers, dugouts, etc.  Imagine being an undermanned, undersupplied, exhausted infantry unit with no support, and Mr. HIMARS pays your section of trench a personal visit.  Being somewhere else might look real good.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:20:38 PM EST
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Look closer.

He stated 2,000,000 by 7/4.
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Yeah, your right, but I am sure he meant 200K by July 4. I think 200K by maybe May 15 or a couple of days later. Just depends how things shake out .
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:23:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Stalingrad. The Germans took 99% of the city, only the river bank remained in Russian hands. Then the Russian counteroffensive broke the German lines to the north and south, encircled the ruined city.
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Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts:
Can you imagine how demoralizing it would be if Ukraine can encircle Bakhmut after the Russians spent months and lost 50k troops to almost take it?  Especially if Wagner is wiped out or captured.

Stalingrad. The Germans took 99% of the city, only the river bank remained in Russian hands. Then the Russian counteroffensive broke the German lines to the north and south, encircled the ruined city.


Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:24:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Capta:

The whole ‘western jets” think may just be a canard.  I’ve watched a few of the more professionally oriented commentaries on the issue, and there agreement that Gripen was the only possible short-term answer.  With Sweden being kept out of NATO for now, they aren’t keen on handing over a lot of their own AC.  F16 may well be the long-term answer, but it would need a major, major capitol improvement project in Ukraine.  New runways which are well-maintained, and a large number of them to serve as alternates.  That’s the biggest obstacle along with shelters and the infrastructure to support a dispersed air force in the field.  These are all huge problems which are totally glossed over most of the time.
One commentator made the point that the best case would be a squadron of Gripens with Meteor, with the goal mainly to push Russian planes back from the line, keep them at risk, and cause attrition.
IMO the west is just milking the issue as a means of “escalation management” - that is, they threaten to send jets so that Russia can be pleased that we only sent GMLRS/GLSDB.  In reality, GMLRS/GLSDB (and yes, ATACMS should be there too) is providing Ukraine FAR more practical utility that jets.
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Every bit helps. Especially now that these are Storm Shadow capable!


Oof!

I want them to get Western aircraft, but I can at least sort of understand the rationale behind why it hasn't happened yet. There's only a certain amount of funds allocated for Ukraine, and getting more passed with the GOP controlled house might prove to be difficult. Thus, it's smart to supply the most in demand stuff, and I think decision makers may have come to the conclusion that a handful of F16s aren't going to be a significant addition. I think they'd rather continue supplying, say, 155mm instead, because that's much more important for keeping Ukraine alive.

Refusing to send long range munitions is purely cowardice, though. There's valid concerns about our own stockpiles of ATACMS, but I don't think that's what's motivating the Biden Administration not to send them. I think it's just fear of escalation and Biden being the dove that he is (this is the same guy who argued against the Bin Laden raid). It's the same thing with cluster munitions. Ukraine wants them, we have large stockpiles, and we can't use them ourselves. Not sending them is solely due to political concerns and concerns about optics.

The whole ‘western jets” think may just be a canard.  I’ve watched a few of the more professionally oriented commentaries on the issue, and there agreement that Gripen was the only possible short-term answer.  With Sweden being kept out of NATO for now, they aren’t keen on handing over a lot of their own AC.  F16 may well be the long-term answer, but it would need a major, major capitol improvement project in Ukraine.  New runways which are well-maintained, and a large number of them to serve as alternates.  That’s the biggest obstacle along with shelters and the infrastructure to support a dispersed air force in the field.  These are all huge problems which are totally glossed over most of the time.
One commentator made the point that the best case would be a squadron of Gripens with Meteor, with the goal mainly to push Russian planes back from the line, keep them at risk, and cause attrition.
IMO the west is just milking the issue as a means of “escalation management” - that is, they threaten to send jets so that Russia can be pleased that we only sent GMLRS/GLSDB.  In reality, GMLRS/GLSDB (and yes, ATACMS should be there too) is providing Ukraine FAR more practical utility that jets.


I saw an interview not to long ago from retired and active F-16 pilots and they said that the F-16 would not have a chance against the Russian AD in theater,  and that the F-16 would be no use to the Ukrainians.  There is just not enough F-16's to give them to be effective due to the amount they would lose to try and make them useful.   The Migs/fulcrum are doing just about what the F-16 would be able to do. but idk im not a fighter pilot
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:25:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Sad for the “normal” people in Russia. But they need to just go home.
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She needs to tell her loved one to shoot his officers in the head and point his nose east by any means available, and to shoot anyone that tries to stop his eastward journey. That is all of the help I can give.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:28:59 PM EST
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Italian M109s not in great shape, allegedly.


A visual demonstration of the state of the 155-mm M109L howitzers received by the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Italy: the bolt has to be tapped with a hammer.
https://twitter.com/b_misteryo/status/1656794316486975488
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:30:09 PM EST
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They don’t even have enough market share to get shirts in their own language.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:35:15 PM EST
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That’s disturbingly amusing.
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I get that reference
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Real-life Macross Missiles.


I get that reference

All we need now are giant fucking robots.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:44:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
An example of what seems to be a commonly held belief, from a nationalist, military-affiliated TG channel- Russians seem to view the grain deal as corruption and at least perceived weakness.

The grain deal, which expires on May 18, will be extended by 60 days, the corresponding decision may be first announced by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. This was reported to TASS on Friday by a source familiar with the negotiation process on the grain deal.

At the same time, the source called the possibility of extending the deal a "gesture from Russia" in the hope that its requirements, enshrined in the Istanbul memorandum of July 22 last year, would be taken into account.

How unexpected.

@milinfolive


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/1F4624FA-9EE6-453C-AC9B-8E640ECD4C8A-2813633.jpg

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Idiots.  The grain deal is a way for the Russians to get something of value out of the situation.  If they go back on it they get nothing and the west will tell the Russian navy to fuck off if they know what’s good for them.
But I can already see it now - Russia will pull out and expect the shipments to stop because of their threats.  Shipments won’t stop and it will just provide NATO with a pretext to enter the black sea to defensively ensure free navigation and food security.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:45:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ike838:



Looks smooth till you get to the landing gear. Does a suicide drone need landing gear?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv3B3dxWIAAIK8u?format=jpg&name=900x900



Looks smooth till you get to the landing gear. Does a suicide drone need landing gear?

Ir would be easy to jettison the gear after takeoff.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:48:27 PM EST
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If anyone wants a solid video series on Stalingrad here it is. Bring lunch and dinner though. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNSNgGzaledi9jQeOzCUtBP2pxYdCYiXX
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:51:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
If anyone wants a solid video series on Stalingrad here it is. Bring lunch and dinner though. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNSNgGzaledi9jQeOzCUtBP2pxYdCYiXX
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I like Tikhistory

He's got some solid takes on higher level "why Hitler started the war" stuff that are not at all in sync with the popular narrative.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:53:14 PM EST
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Ir would be easy to jettison the gear after takeoff.
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Originally Posted By Ike838:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv3B3dxWIAAIK8u?format=jpg&name=900x900



Looks smooth till you get to the landing gear. Does a suicide drone need landing gear?

Ir would be easy to jettison the gear after takeoff.


Im going to guess, since in that picture it shows the front gear with a shock absorbing strut like any normal aircraft would have for landing, so Im going to assume that the pictured model is a test flying model that they have flown and landed and re-used. the production model will most likely have fall away gear and not be like the one pictured.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:55:00 PM EST
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I saw an interview not to long ago from retired and active F-16 pilots and they said that the F-16 would not have a chance against the Russian AD in theater,  and that the F-16 would be no use to the Ukrainians.  There is just not enough F-16's to give them to be effective due to the amount they would lose to try and make them useful.   The Migs/fulcrum are doing just about what the F-16 would be able to do. but idk im not a fighter pilot
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I'm not sure in what context they were speaking, but I can assure you the F-16 would be vastly superior to the MiG-29 in either A2A or A2G roles against the Russians. The best A2A missile Ukraine's MiG-29 has is about the equivalent of the shitty 1980s era AIM-7 Sparrow. It is a semi-active radar missile. Not only is it outranged by the more modern active (fire and forget) R77, but being a semi-active radar missile, the firing aircraft must keep its nose pointed toward the target until missile impact. By the time that happens, you are in IR missile range if the R77 hasn't hit you in the face already. The F-16 with the AIM-120 would put Ukraine on another level in terms of BVR capability and allow them to be much more competitive against Russian aircraft and their missiles.

Attacking ground targets is much the same story. The F-16 is capable of employing most of the precision guided standoff weaponry currently in the inventory. They can use these weapons to target the Russians with far more accuracy from 60 miles away than they can accomplish with a MiG-29 and its unguided bombs and rockets can accomplish from within visual range.

Yeah, if you had to overfly a damn target in order to attack it, then yeah, the F-16 would be about as vulnerable as the MiG-29. But it doesn't have to play that game because it actually has decent weapons.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 10:57:37 PM EST
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Real-life Macross Missiles.


I get that reference


Me too.

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Max Vs Miriya Round 1 : Aces Of Space - (Amazingly Choreographed Scene)
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