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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:42:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Is the Belgorod attack strategically significant, or is this a Doolittle Raid? putin must either accept the humiliating loss of territory (which could gain momentum) or, with a Ukrainian counter offensive imminent, he must redeploy units that are desperately needed elsewhere. That's not a symbolic dilemma. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:43:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Is the Belgorod attack strategically significant, or is this a Doolittle Raid? Kharkiv has been getting hammered from that direction. We took a trip to the Belgorod highway to deliver to the troops. That whole area was wrecked by Russia and was liberated. Belgorod was also a staging ground for equipment.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
I duped the IA and FSB bldgs in Belgorod getting boomed (Almighty got them a few posts above)…But here’s another interesting tweet. We need to secure our borders! |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:49:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Clearly that battery commander is not aware of where he should be positioning his missiles. I have been assured that air defense missiles are fired behind the target missile in a chasing engagement. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: If believed it did force them move nuclear weapons. Other than that I'm going with Doolittle raid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Is the Belgorod attack strategically significant, or is this a Doolittle Raid? If believed it did force them move nuclear weapons. Other than that I'm going with Doolittle raid. If it forces Russia to post units in border towns all along the border it's significant. Until now the Russian border has been completely undefended. They have been assuming the risk of a nuclear response made deploying infantry unnecessary. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:50:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1660682783835004928
Unpacking a captured Russian Mango APFSDS (BM42 with Zh-63) made in 2016. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: putin must either accept the humiliating loss of territory (which could gain momentum) or, with a Ukrainian counter offensive imminent, he must redeploy units that are desperately needed elsewhere. That's not a symbolic dilemma. There has to be some kind of response, and you would think a tightening of border security along the entire length. It really appears they just kind of hoped Ukraine wouldn't cross into Russian territory. Worse than the French and maginot line, literally their own border seemingly undefended which is wild considering they've been waging war for over a year on the country just opposite it. Like they're saying oh don't worry it is only a hundred partisans. But that also speaks towards the readiness of their border defense. It's a mess for Russia. It's an amazing propaganda swing considering how long they've been building up the Bakhmut victory and how much that has cost them logistically, now a hundred dudes are just strolling through 3 villages in Russia relatively unopposed. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:53:27 PM EDT
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https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1660384457814097922
#Russia / #Ukraine 🇷🇺🇺🇦: #Ukrainian Forces released a video of their attack on #Russian Positions; which seemingly carried out with noteable mortar & ammunition: The fighters use #Czech 🇨🇿 120mm vz. 82 PRAM-L (Type 82) mortar with rare M62P10 HE mortar bombs, made by #Serbia 🇷🇸. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xDxhyDZgTfyotT4bAjwBBFWCsPiZgqzR/view CAT-UXO @CAT_UXO This week we have Projectiles found in Ukraine for your download. As usual please drop us a line if you observe any typos, incorrect technical data or additions you think should be added. Together our knowledge saves lives. Follow this link to download the PDF from our google drive: |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:54:05 PM EDT
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I’m amazed that they are still producing obsolete ammunition.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:54:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I fully agree this slow grind is horrible. I guess it depends on what the peace deal is. What deters Russia from invading? Ukraine is about 1/3 the population. They will need much more long range capability to deter Russia in the future. And there has to be acceptance of shelling and bombing Russian territory if the try to attack. Neither of those seem to be in place yet or even on the “menu of acceptable responses”. As long as Russia can launch Shaheds from 2000 km they will. As long as the can produce Iskander they will and will eventually fire them. Ukraine would need lots more ADA and then still live under constant threat. And given time they will develop new munitions to exploits any gaps. Peace with a recoverable Russia is only possible if Ukraine is bristling with advanced weapons and the “permission” to use those weapons to strike as deep as necessary to eliminate threats. That does not seem to be on the 2023 horizon. I think we have to be realistic with goals and expectations. It's too late to deter Russia from invading and it's not in our ability to turn Russia into Sweden or Denmark. It's a miracle (of UA determination and RU ineptitude) that Ukraine is still functioning at all. Talk of "degrading" Russia, or eliminating them as a threat sounds great and may eventually happen but I dont think it should be a goal of aid. It's immoral (in my opinion) to hold up aid with this bullshit pretext of degrading Russia. Anyway its a filthy fucking lie since we are holding back crucial aid due to fear and cowardice (or corruption). Lets help Ukraine save themselves and everything else will fall into place with Russia. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:59:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:59:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JustaGunNut]
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Sprinkle some photos of Abrams, strykers, Bradley's, leos, and challengers in Ukraine near that region on social media and RU will have no choice but to pivot.
I'd have a whole album of geolocatable equipment that I could use for disinfo if I were Ukraine. Just tour the country with a few tanks, doctor them up so they don't look the same all the time, keep the images 14-30 days fresh. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:00:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:01:04 PM EDT
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Holy shit, I come home from work today to find that Ukraine has now invaded Russia! LMAO. This is too funny. I swear, the Ukrainians have become absolute masters at trolling Putin. They are as stubborn as the Scotts-Irish that occupy the Appalachians and have a sense of humor that reminds me of, well, us. LOL.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:03:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:09:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:11:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:12:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Sprinkle some photos of Abrams, strykers, Bradley's, leos, and challengers in Ukraine near that region on social media and RU will have no choice but to pivot. I'd have a whole album of geolocatable equipment that I could use for disinfo if I were Ukraine. Just tour the country with a few tanks, doctor them up so they don't look the same all the time, keep the images 14-30 days fresh. I'd post and share vids and pics of friendly fire between Russians from the whole war if I was going the disinfo route. Spread panic and dissent and blow some air on the coals. No need getting the populace thinking NATO is invading and have them double down. Get them choosing sides between their countrymen and the Kremlin |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:15:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:16:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
So Russia is bombing it's own country and citizens? Ukraine: You are my heroes. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:21:17 PM EDT
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 Massive Attack within Russia |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:22:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: I wouldn't put it past Ukraine to goad Putin into forcing them to fly it into combat like the kinzahal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Hopefully during this modernization process, some AN/APG-83 AESA radars find a home in the nose of these aircraft. They won’t risk the SU57 anywhere near a near-peer conflict. I wouldn't put it past Ukraine to goad Putin into forcing them to fly it into combat like the kinzahal. I'd laugh myself into a coma if a grenade drone suicided right into a jet intake of one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Holy shit, I come home from work today to find that Ukraine has now invaded Russia! LMAO. This is too funny. I swear, the Ukrainians have become absolute masters at trolling Putin. They are as stubborn as the Scotts-Irish that occupy the Appalachians and have a sense of humor that reminds me of, well, us. LOL. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:26:16 PM EDT
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Man, I picked a bad day to be busy most the day
Haven't seen the thread move this fast in a while. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Well since putin has told the world that Ukraine is a made up culture and that Ukraine has always been russia, if Ukrainian forces were to breakout they could march all the way to moscow and it wouldn't count as an invasion. It would simply be russians going to moscow. Or in practical terms, a civil war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By thehun06: What if this is the counter offensive but actually an offensive. Well since putin has told the world that Ukraine is a made up culture and that Ukraine has always been russia, if Ukrainian forces were to breakout they could march all the way to moscow and it wouldn't count as an invasion. It would simply be russians going to moscow. Or in practical terms, a civil war. I like the way you think. You should be in the State Dpt. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:28:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Wait Russian have warehouses of pallets they aren't using? Pallets must be considered "Wonderwaffen" I haven't seen a single one out on the battlefield. I guess they are considered too valuable to let out into the field. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:28:25 PM EDT
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What a fantastic day this has been. Wow.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: What a fantastic day this has been. Wow. It was much needed. My woman has been laughing her ass off at this news, and all the funny memes that popped up. After last night's attack, we needed something to get excited about.  |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:30:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:32:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:38:07 PM EDT
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Today is lit!
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:40:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Clearly that battery commander is not aware of where he should be positioning his missiles. I have been assured that air defense missiles are fired behind the target missile in a chasing engagement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Clearly that battery commander is not aware of where he should be positioning his missiles. I have been assured that air defense missiles are fired behind the target missile in a chasing engagement. lol, never get out of the boat.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:40:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ike838: I like the way you think. You should be in the State Dpt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ike838: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By thehun06: What if this is the counter offensive but actually an offensive. Well since putin has told the world that Ukraine is a made up culture and that Ukraine has always been russia, if Ukrainian forces were to breakout they could march all the way to moscow and it wouldn't count as an invasion. It would simply be russians going to moscow. Or in practical terms, a civil war. I like the way you think. You should be in the State Dpt. He, she, it, they, them wouldn't last a dayl. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: What a fantastic day this has been. Wow. Yes it is . Can’t seem to git rid of this damn grin I’ve had all day 
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:41:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fixin2]
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Take the gloves off, balls and all!
Keep the orders coming in. Give them PRSM’s. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Not an s-300 due to angle of launch? |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Russia struggled to adequately equip the 300,000 guys they brought into the fold during the last mobilization. A full scale mobilization would be a total shitshow, to the point that I would expect the average Russian mobik to be kitted out like the D/LPR conscripts they handed WW2 helmets and Mosins. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:49:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: He, she, it, they, them wouldn't last a dayl. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Ike838: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By thehun06: What if this is the counter offensive but actually an offensive. Well since putin has told the world that Ukraine is a made up culture and that Ukraine has always been russia, if Ukrainian forces were to breakout they could march all the way to moscow and it wouldn't count as an invasion. It would simply be russians going to moscow. Or in practical terms, a civil war. I like the way you think. You should be in the State Dpt. He, she, it, they, them wouldn't last a dayl. I'd refuse to have the lobotomy that's required to work there. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:49:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: It was much needed. My woman has been laughing her ass off at this news, and all the funny memes that popped up. After last night's attack, we needed something to get excited about. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By sq40: What a fantastic day this has been. Wow. It was much needed. My woman has been laughing her ass off at this news, and all the funny memes that popped up. After last night's attack, we needed something to get excited about. Glad to hear this after what you guys have been through.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: So Russia is bombing it's own country and citizens? Ukraine: You are my heroes. Ehh that's a Russian pastime, the do it on a regular basis. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:55:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:56:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:57:27 PM EDT
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This attack into Belgorod has also served to overshadow any propaganda claims Russia could make about Bakhmut.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:59:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Star_Scream]
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Hahahaha
Russians invaded Russia and are voting to secede? New favorite Russians, do they have some merch I can buy to support them? Well tied for favorite Russians. I do have quite a few Shirogorov knives. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 7:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: So, could we call that a...pallet cleanser? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: A nice campfire to enjoy watching their Russian shit get shot down (well on the news since that’s all the way up north)
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/IMG_7988-2825442.jpg So, could we call that a...pallet cleanser? You are clearly a DAD. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 7:04:59 PM EDT
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Regarding the countries that might provide F-16's for Ukraine.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraines-f-16s-could-come-from-these-countries |
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