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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:05:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: The Russian Black Sea fleet needs to fucking cease to exist. The rules of engagement in this WAR absolutely SUCK. Thanks Brandon ! |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:05:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: He often correct. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: I want it to be true. But a lot of the YouTube channels presenting "news" on this war are either hardcore copium or hopium channels. I'll wait until sone of the Twitter and Telegram channels that have shown to be more factual report these sorts of gains before taking it as fact. I sure hope so! |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:06:36 PM EST
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Dikiy, commander of PMC "Wagner", Hero of Russia:
“Most commanders from the Ministry of Defense will agree with me that the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is a community of non-professionals who not only cannot lead our army to victory, but dishonor it at every step. Therefore, I propose the same document, only in reverse order. The fact that PMC "Wagner" is ready to accept fighters from the Ministry of Defense into its ranks, on general, fraternal conditions for us. We are ready to continue to fight with them hand in hand until the Victory of Great Russia. As for Shoigu and his retinue. I propose not later than June 20 to pass a qualification commission in our field camps and additional training. As a result, after training and a test of confidence, if someone ends up with the result of "crap himself", he surrenders his position, shoulder straps and undeservedly acquired awards. They also return their children from abroad, cancel their dual citizenship, and transfer real estate abroad to the fund to help the relatives of those who died in the NVO. https://t.me/rsotmdivision/7978 |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:12:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Oh please God let there be some mad engineer who figures out how to launch GLSDBs off the back of a Toyota. I would rather them find a way to launch a single remote targeted patriot missile from the back of a Toyota (or even a military supply truck). Imagine if they could forward position a few cheap launchers close to the forward edge of the battle and target them with a network of dispersed radar systems. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:24:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: I wish they’d restore the usernames in the archives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By BlgSal: I have you greybar'd already and the reason is "pro Russian troll". Thanks for the confirmation. I really wish they'd restore the username in the ignore bar. I wish they’d restore the usernames in the archives. You and me both. 
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:35:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: LoL it's funny becuase it's true. I noticed today Russia's IW was fixated on currently fighting against Polish troops but luckily for them Russia has already killed the Polish elite units  I kind of wish all my problems could just go away by talking bullshit to myself  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211087/Webopname_11-6-2023_232037_www_youtube_c-2848056.jpg Macgregor needs to swing from a tree before this is over. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:39:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: The report of Kalibr launches from the Black Sea must have been a false alarm. The Air Raid map across Ukraine looks totally quiet, minus Donetsk. I think maybe they are targeting military targets that are under blackout rules. I've noticed a few times now that these attacks have just disappeared and then the next day's tally shows some cruise missile and drone kills. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:50:37 PM EST
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:53:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: It wont embed for some reason. Heres the link. https://twitter.com/PatriotGor/status/1667977179433508865 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Fascinating. If anyone has another link please post it. I didn't see it on spooks TG (which makes more sense it wouldn't be there now) It's amazing how much is in the ground from the eastern front. The Russians in this war will be found someday similarly (hopefully not during another war tho). The guy I buy track links from digs stuff up in Latvia. Depending on the soil, some of its in quote good condition. Like those famous peet bodies It wont embed for some reason. Heres the link. https://twitter.com/PatriotGor/status/1667977179433508865  I hope there’s a news story later about which battle and units were there. If anyone sees that down the road please remember to ping me! |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:56:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small Interesting. The Ukrainians have given off the impression of being very technologically adept. I recall that during the War in the Donbas, Western forces who were training Ukrainians recalled that they were using Western counter-battery radars in ways that were theoretically beyond their capability. It seems this is another example of that. I also recall a couple months back that Michael Kofman and a few others were subtlety hinting that the Ukrainians had come up with their own version of Blue Force Tracker. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:02:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: I sure hope so! |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:03:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: I hope there’s a news story later about which battle and units were there. If anyone sees that down the road please remember to ping me! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By Schmigs: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Fascinating. If anyone has another link please post it. I didn't see it on spooks TG (which makes more sense it wouldn't be there now) It's amazing how much is in the ground from the eastern front. The Russians in this war will be found someday similarly (hopefully not during another war tho). The guy I buy track links from digs stuff up in Latvia. Depending on the soil, some of its in quote good condition. Like those famous peet bodies It wont embed for some reason. Heres the link. https://twitter.com/PatriotGor/status/1667977179433508865 I hope there’s a news story later about which battle and units were there. If anyone sees that down the road please remember to ping me! Me too! Wow that's crazy |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:05:36 PM EST
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Just thinking out loud here: I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine launches a serious offensive further north in the Donbas while all eyes are focused on southwards. There's still quite a bit of Ukrainian combat power that's not accounted for yet, and doing something like this would track with what the Ukrainians did last year with Kharkiv and Kherson.
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:06:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:07:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Just thinking out loud here: I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine launches a serious offensive further north in the Donbas while all eyes are focused on southwards. There's still quite a bit of Ukrainian combat power that's not accounted for yet, and doing something like this would track with what the Ukrainians did last year with Kharkiv and Kherson. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:16:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: The rules of engagement in this WAR absolutely SUCK. Thanks Brandon ! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: The Russian Black Sea fleet needs to fucking cease to exist. The rules of engagement in this WAR absolutely SUCK. Thanks Brandon ! My inner Tom Clancy… Ukraine could have a sortie over the Black Sea for a cover story, while US stealth could shadow them and move in and deploy anti ship missiles. Sink Russian ships and let Ukraine take credit. Rinse and repeat. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:16:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Donbas is very dug in from 8 years of war as I understand it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Just thinking out loud here: I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine launches a serious offensive further north in the Donbas while all eyes are focused on southwards. There's still quite a bit of Ukrainian combat power that's not accounted for yet, and doing something like this would track with what the Ukrainians did last year with Kharkiv and Kherson. Sure, but the south is extremely dug in as well, perhaps even more so than the Donbas. Wherever the Ukrainians strike, they're going to have to bust through some serious defensive lines. That's going to be a constant, and I don't think we're going to see anything resembling Kharkiv going forward, unless the Russian Army just outright collapses (I think we're a while from that still). The goal could potentially be to force Russia to commit its reserves to the south and then strike elsewhere. Or, it could be vice versa, in that Ukraine launches serious assaults further north aimed at forcing the Russians to divert their reserves there. There's a lot of Ukrainian brigades that are completely unaccounted for at this point (upwards of 10 according to some stuff I've read), and they might be used in a manner like that. They might also just be waiting to determine the weakest points in the Russian lines in the south before deploying them. There's a lot of unknowns at this point, and like I said, I'm just thinking out loud here more than anything. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:19:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: My inner Tom Clancy… Ukraine could have a sortie over the Black Sea for a cover story, while US stealth could shadow them and move in and deploy anti ship missiles. Sink Russian ships and let Ukraine take credit. Rinse and repeat. I don't think our stealth aircraft can internally carry anti ship missiles they are too big. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:35:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: By doctrine, 60% of Rus logistics throughput is via rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By Peengwin: I've been mentioning the rail lines several times. Air defense prohibits air cargo as well as troops. Rail lines move most of the rest before it gets to a truck. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tumblr_lka9rhi8aT1qadbq2o1_400_GIF-121.gif By doctrine, 60% of Rus logistics throughput is via rail. With storm shadows they can keep targeting those areas as repairs will be made on them. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:37:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: I don't think our stealth aircraft can internally carry anti ship missiles they are too big. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Originally Posted By sq40: My inner Tom Clancy… Ukraine could have a sortie over the Black Sea for a cover story, while US stealth could shadow them and move in and deploy anti ship missiles. Sink Russian ships and let Ukraine take credit. Rinse and repeat. I don't think our stealth aircraft can internally carry anti ship missiles they are too big. The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:39:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: Charging_Handle]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small By 12 per year, do they mean batteries complete with radar, command and control units, launchers, missiles, etc., or what? If they can produce 12 complete batteries in a year's time, that would be pretty freaking nice. But if it is just 12 TELs, that would be pretty lame. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:46:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:49:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Just thinking out loud here: I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine launches a serious offensive further north in the Donbas while all eyes are focused on southwards. There's still quite a bit of Ukrainian combat power that's not accounted for yet, and doing something like this would track with what the Ukrainians did last year with Kharkiv and Kherson. That's definitely on my wish list. I've been wanting them to break through between Svatove and Kreminna since the Fall. Cut logistics coming via Starobilsk, and get behind Kreminna-Rubizhne-Sievierodonetsk to attempt encirclement. Unfortunately they've had months to fortify that line since the Lyman collapse. Maybe if they cannibalize the units up there, it will be weakened enough. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:54:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Patriot has been able to hit hypersonic stuff for a while. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small Keep in mind, the Kinzhals have a different flight profile than regular hypersonic ballistic missiles. ETA I doubt they tweaked the actual software code. It isn't linux. Probably something more related the to reports about attacking the Kinzhals from multiple different angles, software settings, etc. I'm sure there are contractors working with them too.ETA2 The claims are from here, if anyone that can access wants to double check. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-patriot-missile-is-an-unsung-hero-of-ukraine-war-db6053a0 |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:57:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By 2A373: The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo. QUICKSINK |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:58:16 PM EST
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 Incredible video shows Ukrainian soldiers in Humvees storming Russian trenches |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:06:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Just thinking out loud here: I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine launches a serious offensive further north in the Donbas while all eyes are focused on southwards. There's still quite a bit of Ukrainian combat power that's not accounted for yet, and doing something like this would track with what the Ukrainians did last year with Kharkiv and Kherson. They could finish off the khakiv offensive from last summer and March straight to the border. Thus cutting off the Donbass. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:10:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: My inner Tom Clancy… Ukraine could have a sortie over the Black Sea for a cover story, while US stealth could shadow them and move in and deploy anti ship missiles. Sink Russian ships and let Ukraine take credit. Rinse and repeat. I’ll read this. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:11:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: They must have tweaked something after getting real world data. I doubt the ceo of Raytheon would make it up. Keep in mind, the Kinzhals have a different flight profile than regular hypersonic ballistic missiles. And didn't some Russian scientist get strung up for lieing about their missile speeds? |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:11:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: By 12 per year, do they mean batteries complete with radar, command and control units, launchers, missiles, etc., or what? If they can produce 12 complete batteries in a year's time, that would be pretty freaking nice. But if it is just 12 TELs, that would be pretty lame. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small By 12 per year, do they mean batteries complete with radar, command and control units, launchers, missiles, etc., or what? If they can produce 12 complete batteries in a year's time, that would be pretty freaking nice. But if it is just 12 TELs, that would be pretty lame. Agreed. Hopefully it isn't 12 missiles |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:13:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Patriot has been able to hit hypersonic stuff for a while. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small Yep! I started to laugh and say WTF when I read that they "tweaked" it. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:17:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
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Quote HistoryGood to see them putting those humvees to good use. That gunner was going to town 
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:22:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: Caboose314]
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Is it common for mine clearing vehicles to take enough damage from mines to put them out of action?
Those leopards don't look that bad. Mobility kills from mines maybe? |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:23:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo. QUICKSINK Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By 2A373: The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo. QUICKSINK That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that. Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs: JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets. 80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow! |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:37:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that. Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs: JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets. 80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow! Quick sink is a cool bomb, but I have wonder its actual ability to attack surface combatants without seriously degrading the combatant’s ability to fight prior to coming into range. Seems like a great option to finish of ships that have already been hit my multiple missiles and are on fire. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 12:40:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: They must have tweaked something after getting real world data. I doubt the ceo of Raytheon would make it up. Keep in mind, the Kinzhals have a different flight profile than regular hypersonic ballistic missiles. ETA I doubt they tweaked the actual software code. It isn't linux. Probably something more related the to reports about attacking the Kinzhals from multiple different angles, software settings, etc. I'm sure there are contractors working with them too.ETA2 The claims are from here, if anyone that can access wants to double check. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-patriot-missile-is-an-unsung-hero-of-ukraine-war-db6053a0 Archive to bypass paywall https://archive.ph/c6rFA |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 12:48:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts: Quick sink is a cool bomb, but I have wonder its actual ability to attack surface combatants without seriously degrading the combatant’s ability to fight prior to coming into range. Seems like a great option to finish of ships that have already been hit my multiple missiles and are on fire. Think naval blockade. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:02:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Reznikov named the key issues of the new meeting in the Rammstein format At the new meeting of the partner states of Ukraine in the "Ramstein" format, the details of the work within the framework of the so-called fighter coalition will be discussed. The next issues are air defense, artillery, shells, ammunition, repair and maintenance of equipment and resources in general, because "this war is a war of resources" It is interesting that representatives of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will go to the meeting as members of the delegation from Kyiv. "Commander of the Air Force, General Mykola Oleschuk , has assigned his responsible officers who supervise the training of pilots and logistical issues," said the Minister of Defense of Ukraine. Read more: war.obozrevatel.com/ukr/tse-vijna-… |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:28:10 AM EST
[#39]
 It's a quiet day for an offensive. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:59:39 AM EST
[#40]
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Commander Yarosh And АРЕЙ Arej Whose battalion is now liberating territories  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 2:22:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: mancow]
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Posted: 6/12/2023 2:39:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By Zam18th: They must have tweaked something after getting real world data. I doubt the ceo of Raytheon would make it up. Keep in mind, the Kinzhals have a different flight profile than regular hypersonic ballistic missiles. ETA I doubt they tweaked the actual software code. It isn't linux. Probably something more related the to reports about attacking the Kinzhals from multiple different angles, software settings, etc. I'm sure there are contractors working with them too.ETA2 The claims are from here, if anyone that can access wants to double check. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-patriot-missile-is-an-unsung-hero-of-ukraine-war-db6053a0 Archive to bypass paywall https://archive.ph/c6rFA I tried that site earlier and it wouldn't load. So I went back and did some troubleshooting and it seems like cloudflare was blocking it or something.  If anyone else has that problem, you can temporarily change your dns in your browser using secure dns/DoH. Worked right away for me. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 2:48:02 AM EST
[#43]
According to oryx Ukraine has lost 16 bradleys (15%) of the 109 supplied by the US.
I sure hope they learned some lessons this last week. They can't afford to keep losing them at that rate. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 2:49:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyZhNOxWcAAk2Ao?format=jpg&name=large It's a quiet day for an offensive. Wtf... those are not good numbers. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 2:54:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Wtf... those are not good numbers. They've probably been going at it for a week by now. Likely time to regroup, re-arm, refuel. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 3:13:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: According to oryx Ukraine has lost 16 bradleys (15%) of the 109 supplied by the US. I sure hope they learned some lessons this last week. They can't afford to keep losing them at that rate. I honestly didn't think they'd use much Western armor for breaching minefields (other than the equipped mine clearing armor). I figured use the older stuff to support the mine clearing ops and use stuff like Brads for exploiting breakthroughs. Can't really take advantage of the optics and mobility crawling through an arty ravaged minefield. Idk |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 3:16:10 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 3:22:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Reinforcements towards the Front while the Russian Air Force has finally been able conduct Strike Missions against the Advancing Forces due to the Clearing of the Weather. 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 3:23:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: We don't know how many were recovered for repair but it does sting a little. I'm sure they're learning. I honestly didn't think they'd use much Western armor for breaching minefields (other than the equipped mine clearing armor). I figured use the older stuff to support the mine clearing ops and use stuff like Brads for exploiting breakthroughs. Can't really take advantage of the optics and mobility crawling through an arty ravaged minefield. Idk Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AROKIE: According to oryx Ukraine has lost 16 bradleys (15%) of the 109 supplied by the US. I sure hope they learned some lessons this last week. They can't afford to keep losing them at that rate. I honestly didn't think they'd use much Western armor for breaching minefields (other than the equipped mine clearing armor). I figured use the older stuff to support the mine clearing ops and use stuff like Brads for exploiting breakthroughs. Can't really take advantage of the optics and mobility crawling through an arty ravaged minefield. Idk I read a Forbes article that the Stryker equipped brigades are going to be used for the breakthroughs, and those brigades also have the challenger 2 tanks a d polish PT-91. But those 3 leading g brigades doing the fight right now have lost a huge part of there mine clearing vehicles. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 3:32:28 AM EST
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