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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:11:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Nobody fucks with a Bidet. *(except Russia, China, and Iran) |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:15:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: ⚠️ russians admit incompetent staff to work at ZNPP The russian occupationists at the Zaporizhzhya NPP entrust the management of the largest nuclear facility in Europe to inexperienced specialists from the russian federation who do not have the necessary knowledge and skills at all. Qualified Ukrainian ZNPP personnel, who for years ensured the power plant operation, continue to be subjected to pressure, intimidation and blackmail by russian nuclear terrorists. Meanwhile, the traitors are appointing young russians to leadership operational positions, for which a corresponding license is required. Thus, an employee of the Balakovo NPP (russian federation), who has only seven (!!!) months of work experience, has been appointed shift supervisor of one of the power units whereas such a position requires much more experience given it involves operational management of the reactor. ‼️ Therefore, even by such actions, the occupationists once again expose the world to danger. Due to the incompetence and inexperience of brought russian personnel, the threat to the safe operation of Zaporizhzhya NPP is only growing. Therefore, it is necessary to return control over the power plant to its legal operator – Energoatom – as soon as possible! #ЗАЕС Contact us 🇺🇦 | FB | IG | YT | TW | IN | EA https://t.me/energoatom_ua/13853 But wait. The IAEA assured the world everything at ZNPP is normal and safe. Did the scared rabbit inspector somehow miss that the Russian overlords with guns are somehow ignorant of operating it?! Russian manager tells a Ukrainian engineer to do something dangerous. Something breaks, explodes or leaks. See! Ukraine sabotaged our wonder tech!! |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:17:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: If the brits were announcing this it would mean they were already there and they figgered out how to slap them on soviet era planes already. The us announcing it means there is a 50/50 chance they might see them in March unless it is really good PR and good for sales to be there in a week. 31 actual shells will be sent but Joe has to personally approve the target. BTW he will be napping... |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:17:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:20:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Biden loves being in the position to withhold aid. He is so used to grifting it is an automatic reflex to hold things up until someone enriches his family. Bring in Hunter as an expediter! 😂 |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:20:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TeuzaWAAARG0J?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TeuzcWwAA70XU?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TeuzaX0AAHjPE?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TeuzZWAAAa7yl?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TevTKWAAE6d0C?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TevTKWIAAGycj?format=jpg&name=large ETA:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TsBzEXgAAm1nl?format=jpg&name=medium LOL. And passports with different names were found with all those (pictures and more)... |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:22:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: It’s clear from your last several posts, that you’re scared shitless, and reacting purely from that emotion; ie. Fear. It paralyzes any rationality you may have had. Picture a World, where America gives in, to every world power willing to wave the Nuclear Saber. I understand your fear, but even if you hate the war, and even if we hate the expense involved, Russia has to be stopped here, and now, BECAUSE they made those nuclear threats. Excellent post. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:28:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: George Bush set his children up in China with an import/export company that China donated more than a million in seed money. Corruption is endemic in both parties in the USA. I am a lifelong Republican, being registered as such since 1979. The reason nobody gets prosecuted, is it would take down virtually most of the senior members of both parties, and they can't have that! I believe this 100%. But Clinton pushed the boundaries to the limit then Biden really crossed into the absurd realm. This is why I "love" Hunter, without his immense character flaws and seemingly intentionally self-destructive tendencies we wouldn't know about 10% (pun intended) of the nefarious shit. While other politicians have been "shop-lifting" Hunter shot the clerk (in the leg), stole the whole cash register, but left his wallet on the counter. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:47:54 AM EDT
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Do it! I wonder what “small internal issue” Budanov is imagining…
 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 9:54:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: 31 actual shells will be sent but Joe has to personally approve the target. BTW he will be napping... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By yekimak: If the brits were announcing this it would mean they were already there and they figgered out how to slap them on soviet era planes already. The us announcing it means there is a 50/50 chance they might see them in March unless it is really good PR and good for sales to be there in a week. Or doing coke. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:07:13 AM EDT
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I love how Russia is pulling troops from border areas to reinforce the frontline in Ukraine. Georgia, China…. You think any of these areas might get ideas with an unprotected border?
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OK, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:09:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FerrousDueler: What we should be thinking about is training a few pilots on the F-117 and transfer 2 airframes to Ukraine. They can take those and penetrate the shit out of Russian-cntrolled airspace, maybe taking out some very important targets. Don't know what their un-refueled range is, but one of the those bomber bases would seem like a great target. F-117s have an awful range; when taking off with almost any bomb load, they need(ed) to rendezvous with a tanker ASAP once at altitude if going any significant distance. I worked on F-117 munitions (AMMO) while at Holloman: they didn't need to take a tanker flying out there, ONLY because the bombing range was practically all around us. The F-117 is not a good option for Ukraine; if it had better endurance while carrying load, I'm still not sure it'd be a good idea. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:15:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thUSMC: He IS a troll nevertheless. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thUSMC: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By Boedy: Fact that we are talking about a Ukrainian offensive while watching the Russians on their back foot scrambling to avoid a full on rout says the offensive has been going well for some time. In that case the domes of the Kremlin will be in sight of the Ukranian vanguard units any day now! Glory to Ukraine!  He thinks people don't see his low level trolling but it's been pretty obvious for a while. He's just not as out and proud as some of the others to get the boot from the thread. He IS a troll nevertheless. I must say, I’m quite impressed by the restraint of fellow members called out by the direct provocation of being “emotionally involved.” Quite a classless and immature provocation, but what’s more telling is lack of engagement from it. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:15:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: We have been over this, Hunter has been exposed, the Russians cannot possibly have anything as compromising as his father bragging about shutting down an investigation of Hunter, nor him in bed smoking crack with a hooker. No matter what they have, it won't be any worse than that. We have all seen it, it is now public record, and nobody who matters cares. Biden is a flake, he goes whichever way the wind blows, and as long as he doesn't change his name to Trump, the press, department of justice and the Democrat voters just don't care. I tend to agree with this. Although I'm SURE the Russians (Chinese, etc) have much worse on Bunter. Video's of him with very young girls, openly talking about selling his dad's influence, talking about his dad's sex abuse of him/his siblings, video's of him haggling over the prices of various policy decisions. Hell they probably have recordings of Xiden himself haggling over the price of this or that. Coming from Russia, it would be ignored as more disinfo and video's of Hunter (or ol' Joe) raping 12yo girls would probably increase their standing among DNC voters. But I think dirt coming from Ukraine and Zelensky would hurt much worse. All the idiot liberals with the Ukraine flag on their Prius' hearing about Xiden demanding cash for aid, openly bribing and blackmailing Ukrainian officials would sting, bargaining with Russians about what aid to give and NOT give to Ukraine in exchange for cash "may" sway some independent voters away. I have zero doubts that Xiden and his handlers are working day and night trying the thread the needle between Zelensky and Putin keeping them both a little happy and a little scared but not enough to talk and reveal any details. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:16:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: I’m a little disappointed that no one in this thread has enjoyed the Prigozhin disguises yet. Pure comedy gold. Agreed. Probably half of arf. is busy updating their avatar pics with Prigozhin. I would too if I could. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, well apparently he's a master of disguise!  Bruce Willis from the movie The Jackal has nothing on old Prig!!! |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:18:20 AM EDT
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A significant concentration of forces during a "major counter offensive" might become justification for a tac nuke to a rat-in-a-corner ORCestrator.
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: It’s clear from your last several posts, that you’re scared shitless, and reacting purely from that emotion; ie. Fear. It paralyzes any rationality you may have had. Picture a World, where America gives in, to every world power willing to wave the Nuclear Saber. I understand your fear, but even if you hate the war, and even if we hate the expense involved, Russia has to be stopped here, and now, BECAUSE they made those nuclear threats. Fear? I fear you fail to understand that when it comes to assessing possible outcomes related to use of force options against a nuclear armed nation that there is a wide gulf between a nation like North Korea armed with a 'handful' of nuclear weapons vs Russia which is known to have the most. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:22:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:23:23 AM EDT
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Wow! Super duper video
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:27:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I tend to agree with this. Although I'm SURE the Russians (Chinese, etc) have much worse on Bunter. Video's of him with very young girls, openly talking about selling his dad's influence, talking about his dad's sex abuse of him/his siblings, video's of him haggling over the prices of various policy decisions. Hell they probably have recordings of Xiden himself haggling over the price of this or that. Coming from Russia, it would be ignored as more disinfo and video's of Hunter (or ol' Joe) raping 12yo girls would probably increase their standing among DNC voters. But I think dirt coming from Ukraine and Zelensky would hurt much worse. All the idiot liberals with the Ukraine flag on their Prius' hearing about Xiden demanding cash for aid, openly bribing and blackmailing Ukrainian officials would sting, bargaining with Russians about what aid to give and NOT give to Ukraine in exchange for cash "may" sway some independent voters away. I have zero doubts that Xiden and his handlers are working day and night trying the thread the needle between Zelensky and Putin keeping them both a little happy and a little scared but not enough to talk and reveal any details. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Lightning_P38: We have been over this, Hunter has been exposed, the Russians cannot possibly have anything as compromising as his father bragging about shutting down an investigation of Hunter, nor him in bed smoking crack with a hooker. No matter what they have, it won't be any worse than that. We have all seen it, it is now public record, and nobody who matters cares. Biden is a flake, he goes whichever way the wind blows, and as long as he doesn't change his name to Trump, the press, department of justice and the Democrat voters just don't care. I tend to agree with this. Although I'm SURE the Russians (Chinese, etc) have much worse on Bunter. Video's of him with very young girls, openly talking about selling his dad's influence, talking about his dad's sex abuse of him/his siblings, video's of him haggling over the prices of various policy decisions. Hell they probably have recordings of Xiden himself haggling over the price of this or that. Coming from Russia, it would be ignored as more disinfo and video's of Hunter (or ol' Joe) raping 12yo girls would probably increase their standing among DNC voters. But I think dirt coming from Ukraine and Zelensky would hurt much worse. All the idiot liberals with the Ukraine flag on their Prius' hearing about Xiden demanding cash for aid, openly bribing and blackmailing Ukrainian officials would sting, bargaining with Russians about what aid to give and NOT give to Ukraine in exchange for cash "may" sway some independent voters away. I have zero doubts that Xiden and his handlers are working day and night trying the thread the needle between Zelensky and Putin keeping them both a little happy and a little scared but not enough to talk and reveal any details. Exactly. Ukraine, Russia and China probably have much worse dirt on Hunter. What has leaked is just what we have from Hunters laptop. The other side of the corrupt deals and Ukraine in estimators likely have as you say videos of escapades and deals. You know his suites overseas would be bugged to the extreme. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:32:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Infantry26]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Wow! Super duper video
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1927-2875619.jpg |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:35:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Some of your comments come off as trolling so you cannot deny that... the comment about the domes of the kremlin coming into view is an obvious one.. so come on dont fool yourself.. if you dont like this thread as you say dont post in it. not hard buddy. Well, you'll have to admit a handfull here have really 'overcooked' the expectations of many here with regards to rhetoric such as "Unconditional Surrender", "War crimes tibunals", and various posts alluding to the only acceptable outcome being the complete destruction of Russia. Then you have those that wish to point out the historical nature of offensives and how long they take to produce results. While there is most certainly merit to that it does not appear that Ukraine has the manpower or logistics in place or even in the pipeline in order to completely retake their occupied territory. Time will tell but I forsee modest gains at best. We shall see. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:35:56 AM EDT
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More explodey video
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:36:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Squatch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Wow! Super duper video
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1927-2875619.jpg That's HE/VT. (aka "Killer Junior") |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:40:27 AM EDT
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 ?? Ukraine War Update - ???? Outflanks Bakhmut? • ???? Dnieper Speedboat Raid! + Much More Footage |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:43:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:43:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:48:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Are the Rooshins using them already? if not can they be expected to start using them if UKR does? If they're already using them what could the Rooshins escalate to in order to asnwer them? Wait. You think Rooshia is sitting on stockpiles yet NOT using them in Ukraine for fear of escalation? LOL... Russia has used cluster munitions on civilian cities, is now using mustard gas and has been sending "hypersonic" missiles into apartment buildings. Braking news bro. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:53:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By silverstate55: I must say, I'm quite impressed by the restraint of fellow members called out by the direct provocation of being "emotionally involved." Quite a classless and immature provocation, but what's more telling is lack of engagement from it. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:53:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: As I've stated many, many pages ago, the rooshins THINK they have the infrastructure to ensure that they are the LEAST annihilated country remaining after a full nuclear exchange. It does not matter if they are not, it only matters that they think they will be and thus are willing to roll those dice if push comes to shove. That Cristal likely tastes just as good in a deep bunker with a high end hooker as it did on their seized super yacht in the Mediterranean sun... We're literally playing Rooshin roulette with an even more retarded Charles Manson... Many of our most prolific posters on the subject of this conflict are either ethnic Ukranians/Russians, married to Ukranians/Russians, or fucking Ukrainians.Russians. They're emotionally invested. I am none of the above and I'm personally not willing to burn down the world over this nonsense as horrific as it may be for those living in it. Solly bout dat Slava Whateva! Yeah. It may end up just like that. A full nuke war. Sometimes we cannot control events no matter how scared and cowardly we act. And I doubt Xiden's pacifist tendencies will make up for his incompetence and corruption to protect us. But in the end I'd rather take the chance being free then to live as slaves to whichever dictator asshole who threatens nukes. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:00:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
There are a few other reports saying that Belarus really didn't receive any nuclear weapons as Russia has claimed.
Has it been stated what type of nukes they were expecting? traditional tube arty type? rocket arty type? air dropped? |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:06:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: A few reasons I can think of why either Europe, the US, or NATO don’t want a nuclear Ukraine: -UK and France want to preserve their monopoly and influence over the mid-tier powers in Europe. -US wants to preserve role as the 900 pound gorilla -NATO wants to preserve the Article 5 selling point, which let’s be honest rests on nukes. -EU doesn’t want nuclear proliferation which could get out of hand and possibly lead to the re-ignition of internal rivalries and conflicts. I will add another one... There is enough bad blood between Russia and Ukraine that they may actually consider using nukes on each other. I could see a tit for tat nuke drop between them. Basically like hamas and Israel both with nukes. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:07:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Yeah. It may end up just like that. A full nuke war. Sometimes we cannot control events no matter how scared and cowardly we act. And I doubt Xiden's pacifist tendencies will make up for his incompetence and corruption to protect us. But in the end I'd rather take the chance being free then to live as slaves to whichever dictator asshole who threatens nukes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By juan223: As I've stated many, many pages ago, the rooshins THINK they have the infrastructure to ensure that they are the LEAST annihilated country remaining after a full nuclear exchange. It does not matter if they are not, it only matters that they think they will be and thus are willing to roll those dice if push comes to shove. That Cristal likely tastes just as good in a deep bunker with a high end hooker as it did on their seized super yacht in the Mediterranean sun... We're literally playing Rooshin roulette with an even more retarded Charles Manson... Many of our most prolific posters on the subject of this conflict are either ethnic Ukranians/Russians, married to Ukranians/Russians, or fucking Ukrainians.Russians. They're emotionally invested. I am none of the above and I'm personally not willing to burn down the world over this nonsense as horrific as it may be for those living in it. Solly bout dat Slava Whateva! Yeah. It may end up just like that. A full nuke war. Sometimes we cannot control events no matter how scared and cowardly we act. And I doubt Xiden's pacifist tendencies will make up for his incompetence and corruption to protect us. But in the end I'd rather take the chance being free then to live as slaves to whichever dictator asshole who threatens nukes. Yeah we should totally cave because Russians are barbaric, violent, liars and unpredictable. We can’t control what Russia does except by force of arms. Russia will not stop at Ukraine. If the world burns down it will be because Russians are barbaric, violent, liars and unpredictable. Not because Ukraine fought back or “NATO escalated.” Russia escalates every single day. Letting fear immobilise you is a sure way to suffer far worse. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:08:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: It’s clear from your last several posts, that you’re scared shitless, and reacting purely from that emotion; ie. Fear. It paralyzes any rationality you may have had. Picture a World, where America gives in, to every world power willing to wave the Nuclear Saber. I understand your fear, but even if you hate the war, and even if we hate the expense involved, Russia has to be stopped here, and now, BECAUSE they made those nuclear threats. Exactly. Living on your knees as a slave still may not save you. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Wait. You think Rooshia is sitting on stockpiles yet NOT using them in Ukraine for fear of escalation? LOL... Russia has used cluster munitions on civilian cities, is now using mustard gas and has been sending "hypersonic" missiles into apartment buildings. Braking news bro. Well in that case Ukraine should start using gas as well I guess. And if Russia has been using cluster munitions on the regular then that most certainly answers my question. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:11:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Another traitor rolled up! SBU is busy!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1914-2875521.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1915-2875522.jpg I dont know...he looks like a nice enough guy...
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: High IQ White Liberals are the ones systematically undermining our society since the 1960's. Low IQ's who like to fuck aren't coming for our freedom. They are a distraction. The liberals are using the low IQ idiots to attack and bludgeon their enemies since the 60's. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:16:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Has it been stated what type of nukes they were expecting? traditional tube arty type? rocket arty type? air dropped? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
There are a few other reports saying that Belarus really didn't receive any nuclear weapons as Russia has claimed.
Has it been stated what type of nukes they were expecting? traditional tube arty type? rocket arty type? air dropped? Possibly none at the current moment, but claimed to be tactical nuclear weapons, not strategic.
Currently, the Belarusian opposition has no confirmation of the transfer of Russian nuclear weapons to the territory of Belarus. However, it is possible that it can be delivered either by the end of 2023 or at the beginning of 2024. Franak Vyachorka, chief adviser to the leader of the opposition of Belarus Svitlana Tykhanouska, told about this in an interview. According to him, nuclear weapons are not bread or a freight car that can be brought. Traces of any such transportation would have been noticed by informants and associates. Therefore, it is quite likely that this has not happened yet. "But according to our information, the work on creating special storage facilities has begun. Lukashenko will not miss the opportunity to show off his nuclear missiles and show how cool, legitimate, important and scary he is," Vyachorka answered. According to him, the situation is deliberately heating up before the NATO summit in order to force Western countries to reduce their support for Ukraine. Like, such a narrative is broadcast through all Russian propaganda media in order to divide Western society and states. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:18:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Yeah. It may end up just like that. A full nuke war. Sometimes we cannot control events no matter how scared and cowardly we act. And I doubt Xiden's pacifist tendencies will make up for his incompetence and corruption to protect us. But in the end I'd rather take the chance being free then to live as slaves to whichever dictator asshole who threatens nukes. Well...I suspect that if given a choice, as much as they feel their cause is a just one, the world as a whole, would much rather see Ukraine cease to exist as a nation rather than end up in a "full nuke war" That is indeed the bitter truth But as I have been saying for quite some time, barring complete insanity on Russia's part that results in nuke use, or amazing luck on Ukraine's that results in complete restoration of lost territory, Ukraine will survie this, it'll just be a bit smaller in the end. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:20:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: j_hooker]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Not subscribing to a groupthink circlejerk is hardly "trolling" Many here feel that western support for UKR is ramping up but I think it's winding down, the political clock on it surely is. I still predict that RUS ends up retaining pretty much most of the areas it wanted to originally hold and the can gets kicked down the road for future generations to deal with. UKR survives as a country, just a smaller one than before. A tale as old as time itself... There will be no "unconditional surrender" with regards to RUS, nor will all of UKR be absorbed by RUS as a result of the current conflict. Hate away, but that's my prediction that's free of the emotional attachements others seem to have with regards to this war. I'm no fan of an aggressive Russia but I AM a fan of logic. @juan223 No hate and thank for stating your opinion in a conducive manner. You may very well be correct, and time will tell. However, I disagree. When this broke out, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind UA would be crushed. Everyday since I lean on UA might pull off the greatest comeback in modern warfare. They have the support and the will, to win as of right now. Russia is lacking both. Crazier things have happened |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:21:11 AM EDT
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Am I the only one who thinks Prigozhin is starring in Clarkson's Farm?
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:23:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: We've gotten that here in Hungary also. Refugees who came and posed as Ukrainian refugees. We had several Syrians years ago who wanted to convert to Catholism, the archbishop of Southern Hungary signed off and sponsored their visa. They did the whole shtick until it came to their 1st communion and all of them disappeared as soon as they got their residence visas. One of the priest saw them at the mosque in Budapest, the whole family did it as a scam. All of it a scam. All the new "converts" should be given a nice big meal of kolbas as part of the process...maybe some diszno porkolt... |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:25:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Wait. You think Rooshia is sitting on stockpiles yet NOT using them in Ukraine for fear of escalation? LOL... Russia has used cluster munitions on civilian cities, is now using mustard gas and has been sending "hypersonic" missiles into apartment buildings. Braking news bro. About fifty seconds in.  Cluster bombs dropped in the Ukraine city of Kharkiv | 7NEWS |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:26:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: In that case the domes of the Kremlin will be in sight of the Ukranian vanguard units any day now! Glory to Ukraine! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By Boedy: Fact that we are talking about a Ukrainian offensive while watching the Russians on their back foot scrambling to avoid a full on rout says the offensive has been going well for some time. In that case the domes of the Kremlin will be in sight of the Ukranian vanguard units any day now! Glory to Ukraine! The stupidity of this comment is highlighted by the recent aborted coup attempt whereby a rogue organization got within 100km of Moscow and *voluntarily* chose not to proceed further. It had the effect of pointing out how completely hollow the internal defenses are within Russia itself. So, if the Ukrainians chose to do so, they could break thru and make a thunder run to Moscow in the same fashion, particularly if they were masquerading as Russian units (which would be pretty easy since they speak Russian and are using Russian gear). |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:27:12 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgkeller: Am I the only one who thinks Prigozhin is starring in Clarkson's Farm? |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:27:36 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Well in that case Ukraine should start using gas as well I guess. And if Russia has been using cluster munitions on the regular then that most certainly answers my question. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Wait. You think Rooshia is sitting on stockpiles yet NOT using them in Ukraine for fear of escalation? LOL... Russia has used cluster munitions on civilian cities, is now using mustard gas and has been sending "hypersonic" missiles into apartment buildings. Braking news bro. Well in that case Ukraine should start using gas as well I guess. And if Russia has been using cluster munitions on the regular then that most certainly answers my question. Russia has been using the cluster munitions since the beginning, along with the Magnesium stuff.  Ukrainian official claims Russian army is using 'prohibited' munitions in Kharkiv  Russians rain deadly 'incendiary shelling' on Kyiv positions You'll see the attack at 40 seconds in, it killed civilians on the hiking trail near the top and right of the image.  Russia's Deadly CLUSTER BOMB Attacks on Ukraine |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:29:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: The USA, UK, and France are signatories to the Non-proliferation Treaty. According to that treaty, the only 5 nations on planet earth that are allowed to have nukes are USA, UK, France, Soviet Union, and China. I think every member of NATO aside from the USA, UK, and France is a signatory to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state, pledged to forever forswear the pursuit of nuclear weapons. Personally, I think its a stupid treaty that has only enabled authoritarian shitholes to bully their neighbors. But we're not going to reverse 50 years of "no one else is allowed to have nukes" policy for Ukraine just because Russia is asshole. Then you've got countries like Germany that were in the process of beating even their conventional swords into plowshares, a great many of whose citizens actively despise even nuclear power (to the point that they've almost completely abandoned it), and are palpably disgusted that Ukraine had the gall to not lose quickly so they could keep buying cheap Russian gas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By bigstick61: Which ones and why? I could see Hungary vetoing regardless. Turkey might be an asshole about it, too. The USA, UK, and France are signatories to the Non-proliferation Treaty. According to that treaty, the only 5 nations on planet earth that are allowed to have nukes are USA, UK, France, Soviet Union, and China. I think every member of NATO aside from the USA, UK, and France is a signatory to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state, pledged to forever forswear the pursuit of nuclear weapons. Personally, I think its a stupid treaty that has only enabled authoritarian shitholes to bully their neighbors. But we're not going to reverse 50 years of "no one else is allowed to have nukes" policy for Ukraine just because Russia is asshole. Then you've got countries like Germany that were in the process of beating even their conventional swords into plowshares, a great many of whose citizens actively despise even nuclear power (to the point that they've almost completely abandoned it), and are palpably disgusted that Ukraine had the gall to not lose quickly so they could keep buying cheap Russian gas. I suspect when all is said and done, NATO members along the border with Russia will end up having nuclear weapons staged there. Didn't Poland make that request already? |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:30:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Probably on the phone to Putin now asking for permission so send a few to keep up appearances... |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:32:29 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Not subscribing to a groupthink circlejerk is hardly "trolling" Many here feel that western support for UKR is ramping up but I think it's winding down, the political clock on it surely is. I still predict that RUS ends up retaining pretty much most of the areas it wanted to originally hold and the can gets kicked down the road for future generations to deal with. UKR survives as a country, just a smaller one than before. A tale as old as time itself... There will be no "unconditional surrender" with regards to RUS, nor will all of UKR be absorbed by RUS as a result of the current conflict. Hate away, but that's my prediction that's free of the emotional attachements others seem to have with regards to this war. I'm no fan of an aggressive Russia but I AM a fan of logic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: He thinks people don't see his low level trolling but it's been pretty obvious for a while. He's just not as out and proud (June was last month) as some of the others to get the boot from the thread. Not subscribing to a groupthink circlejerk is hardly "trolling" Many here feel that western support for UKR is ramping up but I think it's winding down, the political clock on it surely is. I still predict that RUS ends up retaining pretty much most of the areas it wanted to originally hold and the can gets kicked down the road for future generations to deal with. UKR survives as a country, just a smaller one than before. A tale as old as time itself... There will be no "unconditional surrender" with regards to RUS, nor will all of UKR be absorbed by RUS as a result of the current conflict. Hate away, but that's my prediction that's free of the emotional attachements others seem to have with regards to this war. I'm no fan of an aggressive Russia but I AM a fan of logic. Russia won't have to surrender, they'll implode and no longer be able to project force. It will be a miracle if they don't fracture into a bunch of independent republics just like their predecessor the *former* Soviet Union. |
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