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Posted: 8/25/2023 5:45:08 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 5:46:29 AM EST
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 What Fits Into Russia |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 5:58:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE:  That would be something to see, a brigade of wagner's fighting for Ukraine. lolQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By yekimak: https://t.me/russvolcorps/686 We appeal to the fighters of the Wagner PMC, for whom the words loyalty and honor still have meaning and meaning. Apparently, your commanders and founding father were cynically executed yesterday. The fact that they were killed by order of representatives of the highest echelon of power in the Russian Federation is obvious to everyone. Therefore, now you have a difficult but rather logical choice: either become a stall of the Russian Defense Ministry in the service of the killers of your commanders, or save your honor and take revenge on their executioners by going over to Ukraine. If you have not committed war crimes on the territory of Ukraine, then we invite you to join our ranks and first complete this bloody meat grinder of the so-called. "SVO", and then again march on Moscow, but this time do not stop 200 km from the Moscow Ring Road, but reach the end! In the event of your voluntary transfer to the side of Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine guarantee you security and decent conditions! That would be something to see, a brigade of wagner's fighting for Ukraine. lolI think Ukraine would pass on that deal. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 6:02:58 AM EST
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A cool thread (and sub):
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Posted: 8/25/2023 6:06:53 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 6:15:42 AM EST
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 24 Aug: NIGHT AMBUSH: Half-Asleep Naked Russians Run in Panic | War in Ukraine Explained |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:05:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Swampgrass: I think Ukraine would pass on that deal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Swampgrass: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By yekimak: https://t.me/russvolcorps/686 We appeal to the fighters of the Wagner PMC, for whom the words loyalty and honor still have meaning and meaning. Apparently, your commanders and founding father were cynically executed yesterday. The fact that they were killed by order of representatives of the highest echelon of power in the Russian Federation is obvious to everyone. Therefore, now you have a difficult but rather logical choice: either become a stall of the Russian Defense Ministry in the service of the killers of your commanders, or save your honor and take revenge on their executioners by going over to Ukraine. If you have not committed war crimes on the territory of Ukraine, then we invite you to join our ranks and first complete this bloody meat grinder of the so-called. "SVO", and then again march on Moscow, but this time do not stop 200 km from the Moscow Ring Road, but reach the end! In the event of your voluntary transfer to the side of Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine guarantee you security and decent conditions! That would be something to see, a brigade of wagner's fighting for Ukraine. lolI think Ukraine would pass on that deal. That invitation was from the ministry of defense of Ukraine so yes it what they want lol |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:10:52 AM EST
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 The Death of Yevgeny Prigozhin (Warographics Special) |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:16:22 AM EST
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 9K33 Osa SAM System Destroyed by HIMARS in Kherson -- About 50km From the Front |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:17:51 AM EST
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 Ukraine War Update NEWS (20230825a): Pt 1 - Overnight & Other News |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:25:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: How many GLSDB's did we provide them? and are they using them to great effect? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Could you elaborate? Effective for what? Advertised range of GLSDB is 150km. To hit the kerch bridge with them, they'd have to be fired from practically the shoreline of the sea of azov. To hit supply depots, command centers, transportation infrastructure etc in the land bridge, they're already in range of GLSDB. Mariupol is only 76km from Vuhledar. Berdyansk is 105km from Huliapole. The last road to the south of Melitopol before you reach the coast is 85km from Piatykhatky or Robotyne. Likewise, all the bridges on the north side of crimea are already within that 150km range. Is that 150km assumption wrong? Seems like the only place where an additional 10 miles would make a difference to GLSDB is the Kherson area. Where a bit closer gives them more options on where to fire from in order to hit bridges on the north side of crimea. But then again, that doesn't seem likely because wouldn't it require moving HIMARs across the river with no quick way to get them back if needed? That seems like an incredibly risky move to me. I get that you don't want to drive HIMARs right up to the line of contact to use them. But still... seems like they're already well away from the front to be able to still hit anywhere they need to in the land bridge. @Mach, @AeroE, could you please come in here and cure us of our (including my own) ignorance please? Subject was GLSDB, debate was, which launch/flight profile yields most range. I am no engineer, but I grok that the rocket part and the wing part do different things. Shoot rocket straight up, glide vehicle has highest altitude, but not necessarily most range. Angle the rocket part at 45*, and you get more lateral range, but maybe the flying bits can't go as far due to intervening terrain. And so on... So guys, assuming a flat surface (haha) what do those trade-offs actually look like? This post brought to you by the US public education system and the decline of knowledge in basic physical principles (including my own).  For one of the tests, they hit a sea target at 130km you can see the angle of the launch for that here. https://twitter.com/i/status/1183820804037009411 https://www.thedefensepost.com/2019/10/15/saab-boeing-ground-launched-small-diameter-bomb-sea-target-test/ Looks about 45 degree angle, perhaps more depending on the camera angle. https://www.thedefensepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/glsdb-norway-saab-768x432.jpg How many GLSDB's did we provide them? and are they using them to great effect? From what I can tell, we are providing them, but they won't really be available in larger numbers until September/October. You will know when they are being used, you'll see a bunch of reports of stuff blowing up 100km or more from the front line. Especially ammo dumps and front line helicopter staging areas. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:29:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Yeah, I'll believe Prigozhin's still alive before I'll believe that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By fisherman: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif Yeah, I'll believe Prigozhin's still alive before I'll believe that. Me too.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:33:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086:
Those are really good decoys, probably more detailed than they need to be considering the poor resolution of Russian drones.  
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:35:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Me too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By fisherman: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif Yeah, I'll believe Prigozhin's still alive before I'll believe that. Me too. On the other hand, it would be a masterful psyop for the West to make Putin think he blew up a double and the real Prigo defected. Someone needs to steal the body first though. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:36:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By yekimak: Does anyone else find Ukraine's use of s200s at least slightly humorous? Ive mentioned it before, but still, seeing this Jetsons's age shit getting used is hard is just... I dunno, it's like all the stuff they drew in cartoons in the 40s come to life in 50s/60s. Maybe if, in the future, tactical nukes land on the table, we can send over some Davy Crocketts just to flush out the aesthetic. Anyhow, Kaluga is getting whacked with s200s now. I've not had a chance to look up where Kaluga is or it's significance due to my cheesing about s200s and saying "Ka-lu-ga" over and over emphasis ing different syllable trying to figger out what sounds right and which sounds the funniest. I understand your feelings, as I'm just as amazed to see vehicles from my 80's childhood fighting THE RUSSIANS in 2023. The 113's forming up with BMP2s and T64's was my "am I REALLY seeing this" moment. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:36:37 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:38:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: The 113's forming up with BMP2s and T64's was my "am I REALLY seeing this" moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By yekimak: Does anyone else find Ukraine's use of s200s at least slightly humorous? Ive mentioned it before, but still, seeing this Jetsons's age shit getting used is hard is just... I dunno, it's like all the stuff they drew in cartoons in the 40s come to life in 50s/60s. Maybe if, in the future, tactical nukes land on the table, we can send over some Davy Crocketts just to flush out the aesthetic. Anyhow, Kaluga is getting whacked with s200s now. I've not had a chance to look up where Kaluga is or it's significance due to my cheesing about s200s and saying "Ka-lu-ga" over and over emphasis ing different syllable trying to figger out what sounds right and which sounds the funniest. I understand your feelings, as I'm just as amazed to see vehicles from my 80's childhood fighting THE RUSSIANS in 2023. The 113's forming up with BMP2s and T64's was my "am I REALLY seeing this" moment. Gepards shooting down Kalibur cruise missiles and Iranian Shahed drones was one of my moments. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:42:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Perhaps broader support. I am surprised they have 100. No indication how many might go to Ukraine. But it would have to be 20 or more to make it worthwhile.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Not sure when Sweden officially enters NATO but good attitude to move things along. I am assuming they are figuring once in NATO they can get by for a couple of years until they get F-35. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3195-2931201.jpg Perhaps broader support. I am surprised they have 100. No indication how many might go to Ukraine. But it would have to be 20 or more to make it worthwhile.
They only need to send a few for it to be effective due to its STOL capabilities and improvised landing strips. Think of it being a sniper/himars type utility. Get in destroy some stuff and get away. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:49:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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More trading up while giving Ukraine more air defenses they are familiar with.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:51:02 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:52:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:53:28 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:55:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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All I can report this morning is that the ruZZIans claim (meaning no AFU sources have confirmed) that the entire AFU 47th Air Assault Brigade was recommitted to the line of contact between Robotyne and Novoprokopivka and there is extremely heavy fighting going on. On a positive note, @Majakovsk73 was able to document AFU advances towards Novoprokopivka and Verbove over the last 24-hours. 
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Posted: 8/25/2023 7:59:12 AM EST
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These can be converted to fire the AIM-7 missiles supplied months ago if needed.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:00:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:02:48 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:04:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: How many GLSDB's did we provide them? and are they using them to great effect? None yet, they were a tested and ready design with no buyers. The delay is that production had to be started. That being said, I expect them to be available in significant numbers once they start being delivered, as it is essentially just a creative way of joining two things we already have in significant quantity - MLRS rockets and Small Diameter Bombs |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:05:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Wow. I’m actually surprised by how messed up that is. ETA- Not saying it’s true, but this is what’s holding back the unrest. The footage shows the obelisk, which was opened by Yevgeny Prigozhin in Nikolaevka. Behind him there used to be a lot of graves of Wagner PMC fighters who died in the NVO zone on the orders of the Motherland. A video has already begun to circulate on the network, where a man who arrived at the obelisk is indignant at the actions of those who razed the graves to the ground and removed the crosses. However, earlier there was already information that they want to remake the cemetery. The entire alley, where the “musicians” were buried, will become a flat area filled with concrete. And on the site of each grave, a black pyramid should appear, as shown on the project. @belarusian_silovik https://t.me/Separ13_13/18125 |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:08:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:  What a surprise, they ran and abandoned their guns too. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:08:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Wasnt that from the old Benny Hill Show?? |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:08:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: None yet, they were a tested and ready design with no buyers. The delay is that production had to be started. That being said, I expect them to be available in significant numbers once they start being delivered, as it is essentially just a creative way of joining two things we already have in significant quantity - MLRS rockets and Small Diameter Bombs Those bombs will provide a nice mid range option between the regular GMLRS and the Atacm/PRSM. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:13:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Wasnt that from the old Benny Hill Show?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Wasnt that from the old Benny Hill Show?? It probably was made in the spirit of the Benny Hill show.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:19:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI completly forgot that he called out the bullshit around the invasion when he went on is walkabout. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:24:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: What a surprise, they ran and abandoned their guns too. That last guy looks like a journalist or blogger (RU propagandist). If so, he has some material to write about now. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:28:32 AM EST
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The death of the leadership of PMC "Wagner": what will happen next with the mercenaries in Belarus?
On the evening of August 23, as a result of a plane crash, the owner of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, as well as a number of key PMC figures, died. In this regard, the question arises about the future fate of the Wagner mercenaries, who until recently were going to firmly and permanently settle in Belarus. Immediately after the information about the death of Prigozhin, a version began to spread that the death of the leadership of the Wagner PMC could lead to the liquidation of the PMC structure as such and, accordingly, the withdrawal of mercenaries from Belarus. Without denying the possibility of such a scenario, I would like to warn against unnecessarily premature conclusions. Considering that the news of Prigozhin's death was unexpected (albeit expected), it will take some time to start the internal processes of PMC reorganization and decision-making. At present, the monitoring group "Belarusian Gayun" does not record the withdrawal of mercenary forces from their main base in Belarus - the camp in the village of Celel, Osipovichi district. At the same time, internet outages were recorded in the vicinity of the camp last night. It should be noted that according to satellite imagery data from August 15, a slight increase in equipment was observed in the field camp in the village of Tselva. Also, from July 28 to August 15, about 35 tents out of almost 300 were dismantled in the camp. In general, it can be stated that the situation in the camp is not static and is constantly changing. If you notice any unusual activity (for example, columns with Wagner PMC mercenaries), please write to us in the @HajunBYbot bot (by yourself or through your friends abroad), or use the feedback form on the site. https://t.me/Hajun_BY/7275 |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:36:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Made it to the finish line:
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:43:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Those bombs will provide a nice mid range option between the regular GMLRS and the Atacm/PRSM. Yes, but they'll have some limitations. 250 lbs of kaboom will only nibble at things like bridges. Great for ammo dumps and softer targets though. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:53:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4X8E_3XkAA0cC9?format=jpg&name=large
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
All I can report this morning is that the ruZZIans claim (meaning no AFU sources have confirmed) that the entire AFU 47th Air Assault Brigade was recommitted to the line of contact between Robotyne and Novoprokopivka and there is extremely heavy fighting going on. On a positive note, @Majakovsk73 was able to document AFU advances towards Novoprokopivka and Verbove over the last 24-hours. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4X8E_3XkAA0cC9?format=jpg&name=large
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I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for more videos of UA armor mixing with, and shooting up, RU towed artillery.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:55:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4WrEAGXMAA3q8G?format=jpg&name=medium Wagner model will remain in Africa after Prigozhin's death Despite the reported death of the Russian mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, Moscow has every interest in continuing his Wagner paramilitary group's activities in Africa, experts told AFP on Thursday. Russia has been outsourcing activities in Africa to Wagner since 2014. On the security front, Wagner fighters have been deployed alongside the national armies of Libya, the Central African Republic and Mali. In terms of politics, the group has conducted disinformation and destabilisation campaigns. On the commercial front, it exploits mineral resources in several African states. Analysts say the Kremlin has no interest in ending these activities. One of Prigozhin's last appearances on camera was footage broadcast Monday of him in camouflage fatigues and an assault rifle saying he was in Africa and working for Russia's future. It was his first filmed appearance since he led his brief revolt against the Kremlin in June. Even before reports of his death, analysts were considering the possible implications of the mutiny. - A 'delicate' succession - With or without Wagner, "Russia wants to keep its business and security interests in Africa," Rama Yade, Africa director of the US think tank Atlantic Council, told AFP. "It is a primary goal." The Kremlin has other channels of influence on the African continent, which lies at the centre of a bitter strategic battle between world powers. These range from embassies to private investors and Russian-owned companies, from television channels to Orthodox churches. These have helped propel Wagner's successes in Africa, said Lou Osborn, a Wagner expert and co-author of a forthcoming book on the mercenary group. "Wagner is the vehicle of Russian neocolonialism and there is no reason for it to stop," said Joseph Bendounga, an opposition politician in the Central African Republic. But wresting control of Prigozhin's complex organisation will not be an easy task. "The Kremlin has no intention of surrendering Prigozhin's positions in Africa," said Peter Rough, analyst at the Hudson Institute. "But the transfer of those operations from Prigozhin to a successor will be a delicate matter." - Difficult to replace - The Soufan Center, a think tank based in New York, has pointed out that "as Russian President Vladimir Putin himself admitted recently, not even the Kremlin truly understands the complex system Yevgeny Prigozhin operated". John Lechner, an independent researcher who is writing book on the mercenary army, made a similar point. "Replacing Wagner personnel in Africa would require finding new personnel who have the networks and experience that keep operations going," he said. "This is unlikely." In the Central African Republic, for example, Wagner has grown steadily in influence since its arrival in 2017, going so far as to organise a referendum in July on rewriting the country's constitution. "It may well be that some of the key figures representing (Wagner)... will remain in their posts, not least because they have the network and institutional knowledge that keeps operations in CAR going," said Lechner. But Prigozhin's reported death leaves a key post vacant -- and those shoes are not easy to fill, analysts said. "There will surely be a lot of personalities who will try to express their willingness to take care of these difficult activities, provided they are appropriately financed," said Russian investigative journalist Denis Korotkov. "But they will surely be inferior to Prigozhin," he added. - Wagner 'the only option' - The stakes are high for some of Wagner's partners. Critics of the force's presence in Africa, such as France and the United States, accuse it of functioning as a kind of life insurance for regimes such as the military rulers in Mali. "Wagner is a product of the state's lack of capacity and interest to project official military force in Africa," said Lechner. That issue still exists, and there are no other private armies who can assume that role, he added. There is no alternative for African governments who do not want to work with the West, said Lechner. "Wagner is still the only option." But Fidele Gouandjika, special advisor to Central African President Faustin Archange Touadera, was unruffled by the recent dramatic developments. "It will change nothing on the ground," he said. "We have a defence agreement with the Russian Federation and it's in the framework of that agreement that the Russian Federation sub-contracted with the paramilitaries of Wagner." https://www.ntv.co.ug/ug/news/international/wagner-model-will-remain-in-africa-after-prigozhin-s-death-4346710 This is where it gets tricky for Russia. If they don't take over in Africa, the French and Brits will eat their lunch over time and attrit the Wagners to nothing while overthrowing the Russia friendly regimes that have been established in the Sahel, which will reduce Russia's value to China with regards to assisting it in the quest for resources. If they go "all in", it becomes a military, diplomatic, logistic, and economic liability to Russia at a time when they can afford none of the four, especially if the Russian "near abroad" starts to get froggy. Like Ukraine, Africa (and Syria as well) is where the only logical option for Russia with regards to their long-term interests is to "declare victory and go home", which, to the Russian way of strategic thought, is inconceivable. Therefore, we will probably see a situation similar to the fall of the Soviet Union; where domestic economic and social stagnation, increasing defense requirements, and the cost of projecting power and supporting an aggressive foreign policy led to internal collapse. Interesting times indeed!
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:56:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Made it to the finish line:
Oops lol. Probably the best thing that could have happened to him though. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:57:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, there are a ton of variables, but it will give the Ukrainians a good deal of flexibility when it arrives in numbers. I don't think the Russian air defenses will be able to intercept it as easily as some think. Different flight profiles and maneuvers could fool the SAM radars at deciding what the target is. https://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/userimages/20/gr_glsdb.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, there are a ton of variables, but it will give the Ukrainians a good deal of flexibility when it arrives in numbers. I don't think the Russian air defenses will be able to intercept it as easily as some think. Different flight profiles and maneuvers could fool the SAM radars at deciding what the target is. https://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/userimages/20/gr_glsdb.png Interesting data from Wikipedia: The cost is undisclosed; however the SDB used in GLSDB has a cost to the U.S. military of about $40,000,[16][33] with the accompanying M26 rocket coming from obsolete inventory. The amount to be allocated to each GLSDB of the cost of the "inter-stage adapter", the cost to develop a launcher-container, and the other GLSDB development and production costs of Boeing and Saab is unknown.[34] For comparison purposes, the cost of a single M31 missile is estimated at $500,000,[17] though this may be the "export price", always higher than the amount charged to the U.S. army.[35] According to the U.S. army's budget, it will pay about $168,000 for each GMLRS in 2023.[36][37] The GLSDB is being offered to Ukraine as a long distance alternative to the 300 km (190 mi) ATACMS missiles,[38][39] which have a price per unit estimated to be well over $1M USD.[40] The other long distance alternative is the 250 km (160 mi) Storm Shadow missiles,[41] each of which is estimated to cost around 2m ($2.5m USD, FY2023). This is also noteworthy: Although the GLSDB can be launched from either MLRS or HIMARS, it also comes with its own launcher, which resembles a nondescript 20-foot (6.1 m) shipping container, making it easier to create decoys and more difficult for the enemy to locate and target. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 8:59:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086:
Some context from opensanctions.org Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086:
Some context from opensanctions.org Yan Petrovskiy is the leader and commander of the Russian paramilitary group ‘Task Force 'Rusich’, which maintains links to Russian private military company Wagner Group, possibly operating as a sub-unit of Wagner. Task Force ’Rusich’ is participating in combat alongside Russia’s military in the war of aggression against Ukraine. ‘Rusich’ has a long history of fighting alongside Russiabacked proxies in the Donbas region of Ukraine. In 2015, ‘Rusich’ mercenaries were accused of, and filmed, committing atrocities against deceased and captured Ukrainian soldiers. — Swiss SECO Sanctions/Embargoes, 2023-04-20 So, we are seeing the widening of Russian "Freikorps" unit formation. Things are getting spicier all the time. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:01:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Made it to the finish line:
two out of three made it that rifleman was making quick decisions -- who is surrendering who is a threat |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:09:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: The death of the leadership of PMC "Wagner": what will happen next with the mercenaries in Belarus? On the evening of August 23, as a result of a plane crash, the owner of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, as well as a number of key PMC figures, died. In this regard, the question arises about the future fate of the Wagner mercenaries, who until recently were going to firmly and permanently settle in Belarus. Immediately after the information about the death of Prigozhin, a version began to spread that the death of the leadership of the Wagner PMC could lead to the liquidation of the PMC structure as such and, accordingly, the withdrawal of mercenaries from Belarus. Without denying the possibility of such a scenario, I would like to warn against unnecessarily premature conclusions. Considering that the news of Prigozhin's death was unexpected (albeit expected), it will take some time to start the internal processes of PMC reorganization and decision-making. At present, the monitoring group "Belarusian Gayun" does not record the withdrawal of mercenary forces from their main base in Belarus - the camp in the village of Celel, Osipovichi district. At the same time, internet outages were recorded in the vicinity of the camp last night. It should be noted that according to satellite imagery data from August 15, a slight increase in equipment was observed in the field camp in the village of Tselva. Also, from July 28 to August 15, about 35 tents out of almost 300 were dismantled in the camp. In general, it can be stated that the situation in the camp is not static and is constantly changing. If you notice any unusual activity (for example, columns with Wagner PMC mercenaries), please write to us in the @HajunBYbot bot (by yourself or through your friends abroad), or use the feedback form on the site. https://t.me/Hajun_BY/7275 Will we find mass graves in those Belarussian camps? "Welcome to Camp "Mach Frie" Wagner veterans. The showers are this way..."... |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:33:41 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: That invitation was from the ministry of defense of Ukraine so yes it what they want lol Well it could be something like: "Ok, stand right here on this big red X. Yes, that's the spot. Now don't move, just wait right here." |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:35:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#46]
First messages emerged when Russian mercenary with the call sign "13th" published on his channel an audio message attacking the commander of the 205th Brigade. This was followed up by 4-5 other channels confirming this information and also mentioning similar situations developing in a number of other units. Below is a chat log provided to a Russian military reported by someone from the Brigade. It is unclear which specific island they are talking about, but the area seems to be somewhere near Kherson. 
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:40:06 AM EST
[#47]
lol, lame.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:41:37 AM EST
[#48]
Nice.
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:43:39 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: The 113's forming up with BMP2s and T64's was my "am I REALLY seeing this" moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By yekimak: Does anyone else find Ukraine's use of s200s at least slightly humorous? Ive mentioned it before, but still, seeing this Jetsons's age shit getting used is hard is just... I dunno, it's like all the stuff they drew in cartoons in the 40s come to life in 50s/60s. Maybe if, in the future, tactical nukes land on the table, we can send over some Davy Crocketts just to flush out the aesthetic. Anyhow, Kaluga is getting whacked with s200s now. I've not had a chance to look up where Kaluga is or it's significance due to my cheesing about s200s and saying "Ka-lu-ga" over and over emphasis ing different syllable trying to figger out what sounds right and which sounds the funniest. I understand your feelings, as I'm just as amazed to see vehicles from my 80's childhood fighting THE RUSSIANS in 2023. The 113's forming up with BMP2s and T64's was my "am I REALLY seeing this" moment. It really is a very Twilight:2000 moment. |
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Posted: 8/25/2023 9:49:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#50]
Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Intelligence Directorate, says in a comment to the media. According to him, there is currently information about the dead and wounded russians, but it needs to be clarified. 
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