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Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:43:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
(I think the Twitter version of this already got posted.)

Assault of the forest strip through the eyes of the soldiers of the 3rd OShBr: full version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIelTtj3t84

(Looks like the guy did a mag reload with stripper clips @ 7:45.)
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Much longer version with more continuity. You can see more of the movement as they clear the area. Good video.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:45:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt:



https://twitter.com/krzysztofjano15/status/1701112778751193491?s=12&t=ADWlcU4GZMY16487vYzEyg

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Still feel dirty cheering on some HIND helicopters today.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:45:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt:
Cool thanks. I almost thought it was a video game until I saw the dude at the end..
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt:
Cool thanks. I almost thought it was a video game until I saw the dude at the end..


That’s hilarious, that was my first reaction- “oh, my man fell for a video game clip”
But no, it’s just that awesome.


Also- sorry for my cunty posts last night.. it was a super long day and I was irritable, which doesn’t happen often.

Truth be told, it was a little pursey in here last night 🤷‍♂️



Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:46:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:




They are in a fucking good shape.
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They are in a fucking good shape.

Fucking T-55's 😂
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:47:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


I understand if an American who is not of Ukrainian descent wants to spell it or call it "Kiev" because they grew up in a time when Ukraine was occupied by Russia and the Soviet Union.

But understand that Ukraine and the Ukrainian people are the Kyivan-Rus people and are an older culture than the Muscovites/Russians. When the Muscovites conquered the Kyivan-Rus they announced to the world that they were the leaders of the "Rus" people - a big deal since the Kyivan-Rus was one of the most successful and great empires in Europe. Eventually, the Muscovites evolved their name into Russians (after taking much of Ukrainian culture and calling it their own). To differentiate themselves from the new "Russians", Kyivan-Rus people changed their name to Ukraina which basically means borderland or "on the border with Russia". (A short read: How Moscow Hijacked the History of Kyivan-Rus)

Russia has attacked and tried to erase the history, culture, ethnicity, language, etc. of the Ukrainian people for hundred of years before the USA was born. This included many mass murders, totalitarian occupation, and the largest genocide by famine in world history in 1931 called the Holodomor where somewhere between 7 and 12 million Ukrainians were starved to death.

When the Russified name of Kiev is used today in front of a Ukrainian, it projects that Ukraine's capital is really of Russian origin or Russian. So, it is insulting.
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:
Originally Posted By AROKIE:


Yes I imagine some parts of this country with Russian population have spelled it like that but I've always known it as Kyiv, but the point is the folks who began to follow this conflict closely have learned the correct way to spell it, anyone still going with "Kiev" now, is behind.


Are we really arguing the spelling of Kyiv/Kiev?

Technically you are all wrong as it is Київ.



I understand if an American who is not of Ukrainian descent wants to spell it or call it "Kiev" because they grew up in a time when Ukraine was occupied by Russia and the Soviet Union.

But understand that Ukraine and the Ukrainian people are the Kyivan-Rus people and are an older culture than the Muscovites/Russians. When the Muscovites conquered the Kyivan-Rus they announced to the world that they were the leaders of the "Rus" people - a big deal since the Kyivan-Rus was one of the most successful and great empires in Europe. Eventually, the Muscovites evolved their name into Russians (after taking much of Ukrainian culture and calling it their own). To differentiate themselves from the new "Russians", Kyivan-Rus people changed their name to Ukraina which basically means borderland or "on the border with Russia". (A short read: How Moscow Hijacked the History of Kyivan-Rus)

Russia has attacked and tried to erase the history, culture, ethnicity, language, etc. of the Ukrainian people for hundred of years before the USA was born. This included many mass murders, totalitarian occupation, and the largest genocide by famine in world history in 1931 called the Holodomor where somewhere between 7 and 12 million Ukrainians were starved to death.

When the Russified name of Kiev is used today in front of a Ukrainian, it projects that Ukraine's capital is really of Russian origin or Russian. So, it is insulting.

This should have been the one and only response to the great spelling debate... educate and move on.  Thank you!
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:53:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt:



https://twitter.com/krzysztofjano15/status/1701112778751193491?s=12&t=ADWlcU4GZMY16487vYzEyg

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Also delete all the characters from the back to and including the question mark.

https://twitter.com/krzysztofjano15/status/1701112778751193491

Some accounts are restricted because they post graphic photos and vids so the Twitter link won’t work. In that case you can replace the tweet and /tweet with url and /url to use it as a plain link. Then copy/paste the Tweet text as a courtesy for the X-poors 😂
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:55:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:


The NSA uses the global communication system to do more good for this country than you can imagine. Yeah, they have also over stepped their bounds and more than once.

The solution is to have effective oversight by the House, not leave our nation defenseless.

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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
Originally Posted By 1969iggy:
Originally Posted By PolarBear416:


You don't have to nationalize a telecom company to mandate that it be accessible for national security purposes.

We didn't nationalize the tv network to get them to be part of the emergency broadcast network.

We didn't nationalize the mobile phone system to get them to carry amber alerts

We didn't nationalize the internet or phone system to enable the NSA to use it to tap communications by foreign nationals.

The last example highlights the need for oversight since we know they went further and spied on Americans, but nobody objects to them using it to spy on foreign enemies.

You don't need to nationalize Starlink to require it to carry specific traffic in foreign countries on request of the the joint chiefs.


Right, so the government directing traffic on the internet to make sure "disinformation" like anything that doesn't fit the democrats narrative didn't take actually nationalizing it, just taking control of it without actually buying it.  We need less government, not more.  Even if i disagree with Musk, i don't agree we should be forcing him to provide a service to a country at war.  I think he started a military version he can sell service to the US and allies, and maybe that gives him a layer of protection.  Either way, government is the problem, not the cure.


The NSA uses the global communication system to do more good for this country than you can imagine. Yeah, they have also over stepped their bounds and more than once.

The solution is to have effective oversight by the House, not leave our nation defenseless.

I don't know, as i don't see inside the black box... i do see the overreach...  I used to have some faith in the FBI and CIA, NSA etc, but the last 8 years have really drained that faith for almost everything government run.  I hate that i can make a good argument that the FBI simply can't be trusted based on their behavior in the recent past, but i would like to see it burnt to the ground and rebuilt, because that might be what it takes to restore faith.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 11:58:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Originally Posted By thanosnap:
I have a bachelors degree from the University of Minnesota with a 4.0 GPA. My ex-wife has a journalism degree and helped me with the technical writing part of it. I could go on and on about the oxford comma. How the newspapers find it an unnecessary expense for printing and a legal case was overturned by not using it making a law vague. That's a grammar nerd thing. So I'm no slouch when it comes to spelling and grammar. The fact that someone here would point out Kiev is the Russian spelling and Kyiv is the Ukrainian spelling says a lot about the community here. There's a lot of Ukrainians trying to manipulate the discussion. That's probably why it sounds like this discussion is on thin ice.

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Lol for someone to say the discussion here is on thin ice is pretty clueless. the regular and fulltime contributers here make this thread amongst the strongest and most epic threads on arfcom.. you can tell he doesn't know what hes talking about and is trying to label this thread something it totally is not.  Wonder why? Anyways this is guy is irrelevant. back to the main point of this thread, the on going ass wiping of the dirty rapist invaders.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:02:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Confirmation.  Doesn't seem to be in bad shape setup as a fortress.



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That's ballsy! Be tough to keep it though. Would need a ton of anti air on it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:03:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

The "correct" spelling is the one employed by the legal authorities of the place. One would use "Kyiv" for all references after 1991.

But it's also immaterial for this discussion, we all know what is meant. Old people bias, Russian bias, Ukraine bias, whatever. Kyv, Kiev, Keeev, Kyiv, whatever. End thread drift!
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Originally Posted By MKSheppard:
I go by weight of history.

If the area was heavily fought over and notable in WW2; I go by the spellings in Eastern Front Historiography (Kiev, Kharkov, etc).

If the area is something "new", like Robotyne, Mariupol; I go by Ukrainian spelling.

The "correct" spelling is the one employed by the legal authorities of the place. One would use "Kyiv" for all references after 1991.

But it's also immaterial for this discussion, we all know what is meant. Old people bias, Russian bias, Ukraine bias, whatever. Kyv, Kiev, Keeev, Kyiv, whatever. End thread drift!

yep
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:04:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
This could calculate into why we supply ATACMS.




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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
This could calculate into why we supply ATACMS.


We fear that the Russians will give the Iranians in return what they lack, advanced weapons that will certainly endanger our peace and perhaps even our existence here.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5uXSfwW8AAJbAm?format=jpg&name=small


And another reason why Israel can step up with heavier weapons to Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:05:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mercersfinest4:


The objective of communism is to allow everyone to share the misery equally.

As always, the communist will get it right, next time…

Meanwhile, the evils of capitalism are on display in the United States where a $15/hour minimum wage X 1,956 hours/year = $29,340 in annual income for the lowest earning full time workers in most areas.
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The objective of communism is to fool the people into thinking they will share the "wealth" equally. Since there will be no wealth, they end up sharing the misery, but NOT equally. It's basically the elimination of the middle class.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:07:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

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Probably Russian FPV of those A/T mines being drone-dropped.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:07:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Unbelievable, when the Surovikin line is the only thing keeping Russia in the fight right now. SMH. It is fortunate for us they are so stupid.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Competence will be rooted out until morale improves!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3639-2949827.jpg
He, like General Popov before him, is now being thought up for a long business trip (exile) outside the Russian Federation. He will be returned if necessary for the needs of the Presidential Executive Office of Russia. The process of Surovikin's ruin is also being prepared. All assets registered to his wife are to be taken away from him, and there are billions of dollars there".

I kind of think we should add Putin to the Flork team.

I think he has taken out almost as many generals as Budanov.

Unbelievable, when the Surovikin line is the only thing keeping Russia in the fight right now. SMH. It is fortunate for us they are so stupid.

I see another plane crash in the future
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:11:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paraflare:
Question for those in the know, because I do not know:

If NATO/US declares war on Russia at some point, do people meddling in the war who shouldn't be (ie. the rumoured Elon Musk starlink meddling) come under scrutiny as security risks/supporters of enemy combatants? And what implication would that have for the average Russian supporting spaghetti monsters that currently roam with impunity? Does it not become treason?

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If it goes hot and Biden gets war powers, I’d be a bit worried if I were a Puffer or a vocal member of the “Fuck Ukraine” crowd. If I were Musk, I’d be a lot worried.

Don’t like it, but the Dems, and this Administration in particular, are vindictive fucks and thirsty to trample on their perceived enemies.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:22:35 PM EDT
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More news around Donetsk. It will be a big milestone if Ukraine retakes the airport!


Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:26:21 PM EDT
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If it goes hot and Biden gets war powers, I’d be a bit worried if I were a Puffer or a vocal member of the “Fuck Ukraine” crowd. If I were Musk, I’d be a lot worried.

Don’t like it, but the Dems, and this Administration in particular, are vindictive fucks and thirsty to trample on their perceived enemies.
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The fbi is probably looking for J6 & Starlink connections as this is being posted….
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:30:11 PM EDT
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Russians worried how to get fuel so they can vacation on the bones of thousands.

It’s because you are stupid, evil bastards!
Heart rending video 😂

Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:33:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
HUGE HUGE HUGE STEP!
US will set up multi-state Black Sea HQ, try to get NATO members to rotate protection duties, hope to increase US investments there and sell more oil 😁 there.
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How is this skirting the Montreux Convention?

Do they have the votes amongst the other black seas states to amend the convention to permit passage of foreign warships in time of conflict?
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

That's ballsy! Be tough to keep it though. Would need a ton of anti air on it.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Confirmation.  Doesn't seem to be in bad shape setup as a fortress.



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That's ballsy! Be tough to keep it though. Would need a ton of anti air on it.



Yeah, that and a crap ton of corner reflectors in the sea around it and on the highest towers, to decoy radar guided anti ship missiles.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:39:07 PM EDT
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Darn good Twitter thread 🧵 on the  cluster munitions and air burst shells of both Ukraine and Russia including those horrendous thermite showers. Lots of pics and videos.

Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:39:15 PM EDT
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How is this skirting the Montreux Convention?

Do they have the votes amongst the other black seas states to amend the convention to permit passage of foreign warships in time of conflict?
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Originally Posted By xd675:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
HUGE HUGE HUGE STEP!
US will set up multi-state Black Sea HQ, try to get NATO members to rotate protection duties, hope to increase US investments there and sell more oil 😁 there.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3635-2949757.jpg
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How is this skirting the Montreux Convention?

Do they have the votes amongst the other black seas states to amend the convention to permit passage of foreign warships in time of conflict?

That is big news, and a big middle finger to Russia. I like it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:39:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd675:


How is this skirting the Montreux Convention?

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I think its done by the tonnage of the ship. Over a certain amount and a military ship cannot enter. I believe that is part of it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:39:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By silverstate55:


I’m still trying to figure out when & how the ME-109 is now called the Bf-109…..
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I still call female "actors" actresses.

That changed about the same time Kiev changed to Kyiv in the U.S.

Yeah, I'm getting too old to keep learning new words and new spellings for old places and things. I'm happy I can spell Kiev. And fuck Mos-cow.


I’m still trying to figure out when & how the ME-109 is now called the Bf-109…..


Bf 109 from the first until the last plane.



Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:44:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1969iggy:
I don't know, as i don't see inside the black box... i do see the overreach...  I used to have some faith in the FBI and CIA, NSA etc, but the last 8 years have really drained that faith for almost everything government run.  I hate that i can make a good argument that the FBI simply can't be trusted based on their behavior in the recent past, but i would like to see it burnt to the ground and rebuilt, because that might be what it takes to restore faith.
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Amen!
All the (hypothetical) good deeds of the past cannot make up for treason in the present.
Today, being the anniversary of 9/11, should be ample reminder of how our security apparatus has been failing miserably at stopping actual threats while focusing on destroying freedoms and liberties here at home.
Sorry for the thread slide ranting...
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:47:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Wow. And a fellow communist no less...

BICS has a good ring to it...
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Somebody get the mortar (not the BOOM! Type 😂) Dem BRICs be cracking and falling apart!  
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Wow. And a fellow communist no less...

BICS has a good ring to it...


BRICS can still exist if Belarus takes the place of Brazil, though!    

Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:58:35 PM EDT
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They should just rig them with explosives about 30 feet under the water and wait until Russia repopulates them and detonate remotely.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 1:01:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Much longer version with more continuity. You can see more of the movement as they clear the area. Good video.
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this is how attacks should be done

move / infiltrate to OBJ in darkness

attack around BMNT -- sun is rising throughout attack giving greater clarity to terrain / targets.  plus testosterone is highest in the AM  
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That thing probably is clutch not just saving wounded troops by getting them to next care level faster, but probably greatly reduces the risk of having a clump of soldiers needed to move a wounded man.

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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I agree.
Musk seems to be a net asset to the free world. I'm very glad he was able to help Ukraine with Starlink and it sounds like it was pivotal to Kyiv's survival. I'm still not sure if he simple did not allow his system to be used for a major attack or he pulled the rug out from under them right before the attack. I can see why he would do it from his perspective even if I strongly disagree. I think Musk is generally pro-Ukraine but he is probably a liberal and a pacifist and fails to see this war ideologically and historically.  

Xiden and his deep state fascists are out to get Musk precisely because he is an agent of free speech and stepped into the arena against them by buying twitter and taking away a key tool of propaganda.
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Originally Posted By 1969iggy:
Right, so the government directing traffic on the internet to make sure "disinformation" like anything that doesn't fit the democrats narrative didn't take actually nationalizing it, just taking control of it without actually buying it.  We need less government, not more.  Even if i disagree with Musk, i don't agree we should be forcing him to provide a service to a country at war.  I think he started a military version he can sell service to the US and allies, and maybe that gives him a layer of protection.  Either way, government is the problem, not the cure.

I agree.
Musk seems to be a net asset to the free world. I'm very glad he was able to help Ukraine with Starlink and it sounds like it was pivotal to Kyiv's survival. I'm still not sure if he simple did not allow his system to be used for a major attack or he pulled the rug out from under them right before the attack. I can see why he would do it from his perspective even if I strongly disagree. I think Musk is generally pro-Ukraine but he is probably a liberal and a pacifist and fails to see this war ideologically and historically.  

Xiden and his deep state fascists are out to get Musk precisely because he is an agent of free speech and stepped into the arena against them by buying twitter and taking away a key tool of propaganda.


Remember the stories of mystery drone boats (that turned out to be Ukrainian drones) washing ashore in Crimea?  Musk did that by cutting off their access. I doubt Ukraine would have launched the op if they knew that Starlink was geofenced to not work within 100km of the Crimean shoreline. He either did it while the op was underway or shortly before without telling them.

What if he decides to veto something DOD or NASA is doing that he is involved with because it isn’t in the interests of Moscow and/or Beijing?

He cannot be trusted after this. The Govt needs to look at alternative vendors, or find the USSF or NASA to implement their own.


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As long as your gov doesnt do that psychotic shit that Germany has tried.  No Germany, you festering twat bubble, paying interest on your debt is NOT defense spending.
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:


Remember the stories of mystery drone boats (that turned out to be Ukrainian drones) washing ashore in Crimea?  Musk did that by cutting off their access. I doubt Ukraine would have launched the op if they knew that Starlink was geofenced to not work within 100km of the Crimean shoreline. He either did it while the op was underway or shortly before without telling them.

What if he decides to veto something DOD or NASA is doing that he is involved with because it isn’t in the interests of Moscow and/or Beijing?

He cannot be trusted after this. The Govt needs to look at alternative vendors, or find the USSF or NASA to implement their own.


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I'm not a fan of him doing it but it makes total sense he did it : A commercial/civilian network was being used to coordinate what would have been one of the worst maritime disasters for a navy in world history : A Pearl Harbor type moment

The US Military already does have similar satellite capability....we're just not giving access to the Ukranians in such a system - Instead we're pushing/recommending they use starlink, to which they have with immense effect and could have used to even better effect.

It sucks, it's sad, but it's also a logical step for Elon, otherwise Russia could have been justified to start blowing SpaceX satellites out of the air which would be an absolute disaster for everyone.
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:


Remember the stories of mystery drone boats (that turned out to be Ukrainian drones) washing ashore in Crimea?  Musk did that by cutting off their access. I doubt Ukraine would have launched the op if they knew that Starlink was geofenced to not work within 100km of the Crimean shoreline. He either did it while the op was underway or shortly before without telling them.

What if he decides to veto something DOD or NASA is doing that he is involved with because it isn’t in the interests of Moscow and/or Beijing?

He cannot be trusted after this. The Govt needs to look at alternative vendors, or find the USSF or NASA to implement their own.


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He may be lobbying for a seat at the power table
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 1:48:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:


Remember the stories of mystery drone boats (that turned out to be Ukrainian drones) washing ashore in Crimea?  Musk did that by cutting off their access. I doubt Ukraine would have launched the op if they knew that Starlink was geofenced to not work within 100km of the Crimean shoreline. He either did it while the op was underway or shortly before without telling them.

What if he decides to veto something DOD or NASA is doing that he is involved with because it isn't in the interests of Moscow and/or Beijing?

He cannot be trusted after this. The Govt needs to look at alternative vendors, or find the USSF or NASA to implement their own.


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If he does it to DoD or NASA he could potentially face some nasty criminal charges.

Link Posted: 9/11/2023 1:49:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://media.tenor.com/ESTkzQQMcTEAAAAC/star-wars.gif

What would you say the possibility of maintaining this kind of spending is?
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:04:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Poland
This is wild. I mean this is the most essential defense need, but holy cow!  Cashier ring this up quick before they reconsider!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3638-2949824.jpg
Totally erectile capable.


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Reconsider? The only reconsideration they will make is whether to double the order.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:04:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Maybe you could send some people across the Sound and explain this concept to the fucking Danes.  

To be fair, the Danes have given a LOT of materiel to Ukraine (proportionally to the size of their defense, they must be among the biggest contributors) - but the politicians are STILL being weasels about making the 2% goal.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Maybe you could send some people across the Sound and explain this concept to the fucking Danes.  

To be fair, the Danes have given a LOT of materiel to Ukraine (proportionally to the size of their defense, they must be among the biggest contributors) - but the politicians are STILL being weasels about making the 2% goal.


I'd much prefer a long-term goal of 2.5-3%, but at this rate anything is an improvement.

We'll have to kick start production lines to keep Ukraine supplied while at the same time expanding our own forces.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:05:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd675:


That thing probably is clutch not just saving wounded troops by getting them to next care level faster, but probably greatly reduces the risk of having a clump of soldiers needed to move a wounded man.

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That thing probably is clutch not just saving wounded troops by getting them to next care level faster, but probably greatly reduces the risk of having a clump of soldiers needed to move a wounded man.


Could also bring ammo and water to the front.  Nice.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:06:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
As long as your gov doesnt do that psychotic shit that Germany has tried.  No Germany, you festering twat bubble, paying interest on your debt is NOT defense spending.
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
As long as your gov doesnt do that psychotic shit that Germany has tried.  No Germany, you festering twat bubble, paying interest on your debt is NOT defense spending.


The German establishment is left of even our Social Democrats. Their policies both on defense and energy are insane.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:08:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:08:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

What would you say the possibility of maintaining this kind of spending is?
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://media.tenor.com/ESTkzQQMcTEAAAAC/star-wars.gif

What would you say the possibility of maintaining this kind of spending is?


2.1% could be maintained indefinitely without making a dent in the national budget. The only danger would be if the Greens or Commies get into a position of power again.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:09:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://media.tenor.com/ESTkzQQMcTEAAAAC/star-wars.gif

Based Swedes 😂 Making NATO stronger along the Russian border. FAFO
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:09:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:22:54 PM EDT
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Video of the oil platform “assault”. No enemy troops to resist but they were attacked by a jet (some say Su-30 or Su-24). Cool nonetheless. You have to prove and encroach whoever you can with small forces to see what intelligence you can gather and who knows, find a weakness to exploit.
I wonder if the UK Marine boat and amphibious training enabled or encouraged any of this?


Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:24:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.


Yes, that would be the SAKO piston AR that will not be imported or available in US. In both 7,62 an 5,56.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:25:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.

Fantastic. A very strong NATO front all along Russia’s north has got to way heavily on Putin. I imagine the Baltics feel more secure.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 2:28:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 8balls:


Yes, that would be the SAKO piston AR that will not be imported or available in US. In both 7,62 an 5,56.
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Originally Posted By 8balls:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Strong entry for new member. Now do group buys with Poland and Finland. 😁


Group buys with Finland are already underway, with NCU and the new carbine being in the pipeline.

More are sure to follow.


Yes, that would be the SAKO piston AR that will not be imported or available in US. In both 7,62 an 5,56.

WANT.

I love my Sako A7 and Tikka T3. Would like to see a similar quality AR with a (drool) Sako barrel. And how they set up the trigger.

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