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Posted: 9/17/2023 1:55:19 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:14:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6P7qknWQAAYTcn?format=jpg&name=small  Bloodhound Gang - Fire water burn (explicit) |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:24:52 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:31:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Emergency with PMC "Wagner" in Africa: In a week, the "orchestra" lost two Mi-8 helicopters, a Su-25 attack aircraft and an An-26 military transport aircraft. Wagner Group sustains significant losses in clashes with Central African Republic rebels. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif Bet they’ve got an MoD officer in charge. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:36:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
@ 0:35. Shit landed within a meter of one guy. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:36:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Bet they’ve got an MoD officer in charge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Emergency with PMC "Wagner" in Africa: In a week, the "orchestra" lost two Mi-8 helicopters, a Su-25 attack aircraft and an An-26 military transport aircraft. Wagner Group sustains significant losses in clashes with Central African Republic rebels. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif Bet they’ve got an MoD officer in charge. That's the first thing that came to my mind. Without their autonomy, Wagner is going to be a lot less effective. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:51:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I could believe such losses for some specific units that took part in a specific failed attack or delaying Op. But NOT for the UA at large. Same with some Russian units that have been largely destroyed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Prime: This is a legitimate article from Ukrainian press. It is naturally only being shared by accounts who preface it with "to the last Ukrainian". https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6JYzIrWgAAOS69?format=jpg&name=medium In addition, Berezhnoy said that a large mechanized brigade would soon be created in the region, so he asked the deputies to “fully assist this process” and strengthen mobilization processes. In particular, he called for the establishment of sites in Poltava to notify those liable for military service. “In the revelations of the Poltava military commissar about large losses among the mobilized, another figure attracts attention - the failure to implement the General Staff’s plan for mobilization. According to the military commissar, in Poltava the plan was fulfilled by only 13%, and this is the worst indicator in the region (which is natural - in a large city it is easier to hide from mobilization than in a village or small town). There have been rumors before that the command’s plans for mobilization in Ukraine are chronically not being fulfilled due to corruption and the massive “slope” of those liable for military service. But for the first time, a specific figure was named, which eloquently shows the scale of the problem. And this also explains the increasingly stringent measures that the authorities are taking in attempts to intensify mobilization. Another question is how effective such attempts will be in the conditions of corruption of the conscription system and related areas, as well as the desire of many people liable for military service to avoid mobilization by all means,” the Telegram channel “Country Politics” comments on the situation . Also commented on the statement of the Poltava military commissar and sniper of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Konstantin Proshinsky (call sign “Grandfather”). “In fact, these are true figures for our unit, including... Some have even less (remained in service - Ed.),” said a fighter fighting near Bakhmut. https://strana.today/news/445457-nachalnik-poltavskoho-ttsk-rasskazal-o-situatsii-s-mobilizatsiej-v-svoem-okruhe.html
I could believe such losses for some specific units that took part in a specific failed attack or delaying Op. But NOT for the UA at large. Same with some Russian units that have been largely destroyed. Good observation. For sure there are Russian units that have had 300% losses in that same time period but that isn’t representative of every unit of theirs. Kind of odd that the district with lowest conscription rate also has a high KIA rate. Do Ukrainian conscripts from an area ten led to serve in the same brigade, like was common in our Civil War? Or do they get scattered among whatever units need replenished? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:56:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fisherman: Really, really hate to read this but thank you for posting. Our slow walk of direct "technical" military assistance, much of it old stuff we will never use, may end up being their/AFU undoing. On the other side of the fence the Russian .mil says no rotations until the SMO is over which basically equates to the only way out of the trenches is a death sentence or, for the lucky ones, a catastrophic injury but one where the person actually makes it off the field and survives. Same deal no matter if the soldier is part of a future mobilization or the prior one. The Russians don't have enough arty to effectively cover their ops in the field but they have enough to nuke the RU troops they think are trying to surrender. When will these RU troops realize they are shooting in the wrong direction? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fisherman: Originally Posted By Prime: This is a legitimate article from Ukrainian press. It is naturally only being shared by accounts who preface it with "to the last Ukrainian". https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6JYzIrWgAAOS69?format=jpg&name=medium In addition, Berezhnoy said that a large mechanized brigade would soon be created in the region, so he asked the deputies to “fully assist this process” and strengthen mobilization processes. In particular, he called for the establishment of sites in Poltava to notify those liable for military service. “In the revelations of the Poltava military commissar about large losses among the mobilized, another figure attracts attention - the failure to implement the General Staff’s plan for mobilization. According to the military commissar, in Poltava the plan was fulfilled by only 13%, and this is the worst indicator in the region (which is natural - in a large city it is easier to hide from mobilization than in a village or small town). There have been rumors before that the command’s plans for mobilization in Ukraine are chronically not being fulfilled due to corruption and the massive “slope” of those liable for military service. But for the first time, a specific figure was named, which eloquently shows the scale of the problem. And this also explains the increasingly stringent measures that the authorities are taking in attempts to intensify mobilization. Another question is how effective such attempts will be in the conditions of corruption of the conscription system and related areas, as well as the desire of many people liable for military service to avoid mobilization by all means,” the Telegram channel “Country Politics” comments on the situation . Also commented on the statement of the Poltava military commissar and sniper of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Konstantin Proshinsky (call sign “Grandfather”). “In fact, these are true figures for our unit, including... Some have even less (remained in service - Ed.),” said a fighter fighting near Bakhmut. https://strana.today/news/445457-nachalnik-poltavskoho-ttsk-rasskazal-o-situatsii-s-mobilizatsiej-v-svoem-okruhe.html
Really, really hate to read this but thank you for posting. Our slow walk of direct "technical" military assistance, much of it old stuff we will never use, may end up being their/AFU undoing. On the other side of the fence the Russian .mil says no rotations until the SMO is over which basically equates to the only way out of the trenches is a death sentence or, for the lucky ones, a catastrophic injury but one where the person actually makes it off the field and survives. Same deal no matter if the soldier is part of a future mobilization or the prior one. The Russians don't have enough arty to effectively cover their ops in the field but they have enough to nuke the RU troops they think are trying to surrender. When will these RU troops realize they are shooting in the wrong direction? Strana is not thought to be 'neutral' -- it is widely considered Pro-Russian in its leanings: ------------------------------------------- Strana.ua is a Ukrainian online newspaper launched on 16 February 2016. Founded by journalist Igor Guzhva. Was one of the most popular Ukrainian online media: one of the top 5 most visited in Ukraine.[1][2][3] The publication is considered to be in opposition to the current Ukrainian government and pro-Russian. The site is published in two languages: Russian and Ukrainian. It publishes daily news, author articles with analytics on current events in Ukraine and the world, investigations and reports. In August 2021, the website of the edition was blocked in Ukraine by the decision of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine;[4] since then, the edition in Ukraine has been working through website mirrors, as well as developing its YouTube and Telegram channels. In 2022, following Russian invasion of Ukraine, the website was blocked in the Russian Federation by a decision of Roskomnadzor.[5][6] ... The Strana.ua website has been criticised by other Ukrainian media outlets as well as a number of media organisations. Notable among these organisations are Detector Media and the Institute of Mass Information (IMI). The criticism boils down to accusations of allegedly pro-Russian editorial policies.[46][47][48][49]  [51][52] In 2021 Strana.ua used as it sources for its news articles Russian news agencies RIA Novosti and TASS.[53] According to the Ukrainian NGO StopFake these particular stories were imitating Russian propaganda about attacks on Russian speakers and perceived "Nazi"-threats.[53] In 2021 IMI stated that Strana.ua was one of the "five most unreliable media sites in Ukraine, often resorting to hate speech and manipulative, distorted headlines."[53] StopFake also pointed out that Strana.ua has been engaged in COVID-19 vaccine misinformation (basing its news article on a RIA Novosti story).[53] StopFake also accused Strana.ua of being a "mouthpiece" of the separatist Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics "parroting their propaganda for the Ukrainian audience."[53] StopFake (in August 2021) also alleged that Strana.ua "not only repeats traditional Russian propaganda tropes, it also publishes stories that inculcate intolerance towards Donbas residents, and freely disseminates the views of Russia’s Foreign Minister that giving Ukrainians who live in the occupied territories Russian passports does not violate any international laws."[53]--------------------- buyer beware  |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 2:59:56 PM EST
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Quote History"Among the military and experts, many speculations arose about the reasons for such massive losses. According to information resources associated with the Wagner PMC, the incidents are definitely related to each other, however, direct accusations in this regard have not yet been presented." Lol. Surprise cockfags. 
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Posted: 9/17/2023 3:04:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
So close together yells Kill me, Kill us. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 3:04:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichardJBizz: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fimages%2Fdae1c99ca516fb7aa9f8b2773d755a16%2Ftenor.gif%3Fitemid%3D3844086&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=df031ee7fec889ac73fe68c0edd53f044d20e7e2d5cf9214fd3fad804db57155&ipo=images Sounds like our guys in OEF. "Just a couple more years…" Will be funny to see this thread still going in 5-10 years... Thanks for your valuable contribution. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 3:28:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Thanks for your valuable contribution. Once you realize his username is essentially Dick Jizz, the contents of his post starts to make sense. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 4:21:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Russia is basically just generating Rubles out of thin air right now. They are their own banking system. The Ruble valuation externally is based on what Russia is willing to trade for oil. The people still using the oil are paying in other currency and Russia is calling that amount XXX,XXX,XXX Rubles. External traders are nodding their head and publishing that valuation as an exchange rate. Even though nobody (Not even Russia) is buying Rubles from the traders. From a historical perspective, it's much worse than the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe. The only thing preventing a horrible collapse for them is banks not wanting to take a multi-billion dollar write off on the Rubles they were left holding. (and maybe fear of Putin serving their tea) Moral: Putin is probably handing out money like candy. It's the only thing keeping him alive right now and it costs him nothing. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 4:23:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: True. But, the numbers also do indicate that Crimea - unlike ALL of the other parts of Ukraine that Russia is trying to steal - at least is kind of "on the fence" and has been far more mixed in their identification with either side. That obviously doesn't excuse ANY of Russia's unacceptable behavior, either in 2014 or now. But it is at least worth acknowledging that in some alternate reality in which a referendum/plebiscite had been organized by an international and unbiased body, there was at least a chance that Crimeans might actually have voted to be part of Russia. Because Russia chose the path or war and aggression, that's all irrelevant now ... but I do find it somewhat interesting nonetheless. There genuinely IS a big proportion of the Crimean population that would be perfectly happy being part of Russia, unlike every other district (oblast?) In Ukraine. When my wife and I visited Crimea in the early 2000s, it was fascinating talking to locals. I remember the distinct contrast between people who were very excited to be free and independent of Russia, and people who were very unhappy with all of the changes, and longed to be part of Russia and "the good old days" again. There was a very clear divide. Hasn't Russia been importing ethnic Russians into Crimea by the truckload and giving them property? Seems like there have been lots of stories about Russians being sold dirt cheap property and relocating to Crimea. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 4:53:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dewoitine: "Among the military and experts, many speculations arose about the reasons for such massive losses. According to information resources associated with the Wagner PMC, the incidents are definitely related to each other, however, direct accusations in this regard have not yet been presented." Lol. Surprise cockfags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dewoitine: "Among the military and experts, many speculations arose about the reasons for such massive losses. According to information resources associated with the Wagner PMC, the incidents are definitely related to each other, however, direct accusations in this regard have not yet been presented." Lol. Surprise cockfags. Maybe French Legionnaires are “advising” the other side? |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 4:53:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: look more at the number of casualties that he claims Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Russia is basically just generating Rubles out of thin air right now. They are their own banking system. The Ruble valuation externally is based on what Russia is willing to trade for oil. The people still using the oil are paying in other currency and Russia is calling that amount XXX,XXX,XXX Rubles. External traders are nodding their head and publishing that valuation as an exchange rate. Even though nobody (Not even Russia) is buying Rubles from the traders. From a historical perspective, it's much worse than the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe. The only thing preventing a horrible collapse for them is banks not wanting to take a multi-billion dollar write off on the Rubles they were left holding. (and maybe fear of Putin serving their tea) Moral: Putin is probably handing out money like candy. It's the only thing keeping him alive right now and it costs him nothing. Factoring in the "20 percent for the big guys" Russianness of it... It's probably the most accurate casualty figures you'll see. I've always thought the Ukrainian estimates of Russian casualties were way too conservative There's a video of an artillery struck treeline a couple pages back that is a good demonstration of how it happens. The first time you watch it, you see like a dozen dead Russians. Then you have a moment and realize he is walking past a bunch of random torsos, arms, legs... The place is just littered with chunks of dead meat. The second time you watch it, the number of dead goes from a dozen to more like fifty. Casualty counting has got to be the most fucked up job in the military. At some point you're going to find yourself looking at random feet in combat boots and asking "Do you think that guy died or not?" It's always going to be a rough guesstimate and I think Ukraine has been erring on the side of caution to avoid false optimism. The various intelligence agencies are looking at Ukraine's figures and applying a rule of thumb "Enemy casualties are always overestimated." Russia is pulling morons and lunatics out of "facilities" and making them front line fighters. Have they taken 3/4 a million casualties? Shit maybe. Your guess is as good as anyone's. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 5:07:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Hasn't Russia been importing ethnic Russians into Crimea by the truckload and giving them property? Seems like there have been lots of stories about Russians being sold dirt cheap property and relocating to Crimea. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 5:31:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Emergency with PMC "Wagner" in Africa: In a week, the "orchestra" lost two Mi-8 helicopters, a Su-25 attack aircraft and an An-26 military transport aircraft. Wagner Group sustains significant losses in clashes with Central African Republic rebels. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif Hmm. Mechanical losses plus unexplained losses. The unexplained losses suggest direct action by unknown parties. The rebels probably would’ve trumpeted their success against aircraft. Recall the arrest of executives of Motor Sich for treason. They were selling helicopter engines to Russia through third parties. It makes me wonder a bit - it seems if the SBU was looking ahead, before they made the bust there’s an opportunity to slip bad engines into some Russian helis. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 5:35:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: questionable... So, if the Russians are acknowledging 384,000 dead, the next questions are: How inclusive is this #? 1) We know the Orcs have left bodies strewn across the battlefield, and are delaying/refusing Ukrainian efforts to return the dead under their control. 2) This probably doesn't include the LPR/DNR folks who've been expended (or at least not most of them) 3) It also probably doesn't include Wagner "meat sacks" recruited from prisons and the like? After all, it's a "PMC" doncha know. 4) Are other PMC's and "Volunteer" groups counted? 5) One thing it probably DOES include is soldiers/mobliks who died prior to reaching the front (including on Russian soil). Potentially, this can mean that the training and RSOP/RSOM-I cycle for Russian soldiers before they get to Ukraine and shortly after is more dangerous than actually being deployed with the US Army into actual combat in operations Iraq and Afghanistan. This also can mean that rear-echelon troops are getting chewed up, since you really can't just abandon bodies 25-50km behind the front, so they are more likely to be evacuated and reported. I wonder what these numbers will look like after the war, when the International Red Cross starts showing up at the Russian border with trainloads of unreported dead who are currently being carried as "missing" or "deserters". |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 5:43:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: True. But, the numbers also do indicate that Crimea - unlike ALL of the other parts of Ukraine that Russia is trying to steal - at least is kind of "on the fence" and has been far more mixed in their identification with either side. That obviously doesn't excuse ANY of Russia's unacceptable behavior, either in 2014 or now. But it is at least worth acknowledging that in some alternate reality in which a referendum/plebiscite had been organized by an international and unbiased body, there was at least a chance that Crimeans might actually have voted to be part of Russia. Because Russia chose the path or war and aggression, that's all irrelevant now ... but I do find it somewhat interesting nonetheless. There genuinely IS a big proportion of the Crimean population that would be perfectly happy being part of Russia, unlike every other district (oblast?) In Ukraine. When my wife and I visited Crimea in the early 2000s, it was fascinating talking to locals. I remember the distinct contrast between people who were very excited to be free and independent of Russia, and people who were very unhappy with all of the changes, and longed to be part of Russia and "the good old days" again. There was a very clear divide. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: In case anyone needs the reference again for popular support for Ukrainian sovereignty, here are the images to the 1991 independence vote and the 2014 Pew study (after Crimean invasion, but before Donbas invasion). The Pew study in 2014 also specifically found that Russian-speakers in Ukraine support Ukrainian sovereignty by a large margin. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Ukraine_LeftAffixedMaps_3.png https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/PG_14.05.09_UrkraineMap_Chart_6.6in.png?resize=1400,1296 Considering it was only 54% “for succession” in Crimea after a Russian invasion/Russian “election/poll supervision” it says a lot. GD cites the “Crimea wants to leave” clown-line a lot. True. But, the numbers also do indicate that Crimea - unlike ALL of the other parts of Ukraine that Russia is trying to steal - at least is kind of "on the fence" and has been far more mixed in their identification with either side. That obviously doesn't excuse ANY of Russia's unacceptable behavior, either in 2014 or now. But it is at least worth acknowledging that in some alternate reality in which a referendum/plebiscite had been organized by an international and unbiased body, there was at least a chance that Crimeans might actually have voted to be part of Russia. Because Russia chose the path or war and aggression, that's all irrelevant now ... but I do find it somewhat interesting nonetheless. There genuinely IS a big proportion of the Crimean population that would be perfectly happy being part of Russia, unlike every other district (oblast?) In Ukraine. When my wife and I visited Crimea in the early 2000s, it was fascinating talking to locals. I remember the distinct contrast between people who were very excited to be free and independent of Russia, and people who were very unhappy with all of the changes, and longed to be part of Russia and "the good old days" again. There was a very clear divide. This just indicates the effectiveness of Russian demographic policy. Why was the Crimean percentage 54%, significantly under average for Ukraine? I submit that it was a direct result of Russia’s campaign of genocide and population replacement which was carried further in Crimea than anywhere else in Ukraine. Russia has been trying to wipe out the Tatars for 150 years, finally deporting and/or killing every man, woman, and child by 1944. Russia has gotten away with it in the past, intends to get away with it now, and intends to keep getting away with it in the future. Until we say “NO” it won’t end. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 5:59:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Strana is not thought to be 'neutral' -- it is widely considered Pro-Russian in its leanings: ------------------------------------------- Strana.ua is a Ukrainian online newspaper launched on 16 February 2016. Founded by journalist Igor Guzhva. Was one of the most popular Ukrainian online media: one of the top 5 most visited in Ukraine.[1][2][3] The publication is considered to be in opposition to the current Ukrainian government and pro-Russian. The site is published in two languages: Russian and Ukrainian. It publishes daily news, author articles with analytics on current events in Ukraine and the world, investigations and reports. In August 2021, the website of the edition was blocked in Ukraine by the decision of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine;[4] since then, the edition in Ukraine has been working through website mirrors, as well as developing its YouTube and Telegram channels. In 2022, following Russian invasion of Ukraine, the website was blocked in the Russian Federation by a decision of Roskomnadzor.[5][6] ... The Strana.ua website has been criticised by other Ukrainian media outlets as well as a number of media organisations. Notable among these organisations are Detector Media and the Institute of Mass Information (IMI). The criticism boils down to accusations of allegedly pro-Russian editorial policies.[46][47][48][49] [51][52] In 2021 Strana.ua used as it sources for its news articles Russian news agencies RIA Novosti and TASS.[53] According to the Ukrainian NGO StopFake these particular stories were imitating Russian propaganda about attacks on Russian speakers and perceived "Nazi"-threats.[53] In 2021 IMI stated that Strana.ua was one of the "five most unreliable media sites in Ukraine, often resorting to hate speech and manipulative, distorted headlines."[53] StopFake also pointed out that Strana.ua has been engaged in COVID-19 vaccine misinformation (basing its news article on a RIA Novosti story).[53] StopFake also accused Strana.ua of being a "mouthpiece" of the separatist Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics "parroting their propaganda for the Ukrainian audience."[53] StopFake (in August 2021) also alleged that Strana.ua "not only repeats traditional Russian propaganda tropes, it also publishes stories that inculcate intolerance towards Donbas residents, and freely disseminates the views of Russia’s Foreign Minister that giving Ukrainians who live in the occupied territories Russian passports does not violate any international laws."[53]--------------------- buyer beware Thanks for that. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:00:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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F-35 crash in Charleston
https://www.counton2.com/news/pilot-ejected-from-f-35-plane-in-north-charleston/ https://yourislandnews.com/beaufort-based-f-35-pilot-ejects-over-north-charleston/ ETA- as usual, Chokey was on it.
And since I'm already off on a tangent... ...bad day for aviation.
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:08:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: F-35 crash in Charleston https://www.counton2.com/news/pilot-ejected-from-f-35-plane-in-north-charleston/ https://yourislandnews.com/beaufort-based-f-35-pilot-ejects-over-north-charleston/ ETA- as usual, Chokey was on it.
And since I'm already off on a tangent... ...bad day for aviation.
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:10:22 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:16:57 PM EST
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Shaheds in Odesa
⚡️Explosions sound again in Odessa https://t.me/ukraina_ru/169463 |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:17:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1703508812362035355 How does Russia transport missiles to Crimea? Ukrainian OSINT group Vishun reports that the enemy uses a civilian vessel to ferry containers with missiles to the Buk air defense system through the Kerch Strait from the port of Kavkaz (45.340672,36.670812). These can be both 9M317 combat missiles and 9M38UD target missiles. The latter are used to distract and exhaust our air defense.  |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:19:48 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:24:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Unmanned aerial vehicle "Shahid" from the Black Sea in the direction of Odesa, from Mykolaiv region in the direction of Mykolaiv.
https://t.me/monitorwarr/14693 Odesa, Mykolaiv — additional reconnaissance. The threat remains for Mykolaiv Oblast. https://t.me/monitorwarr/14695 ⚠️ Attention! Kherson region, Mykolaiv region - the threat of "Shakhed" again! https://t.me/kpszsu/5322 🔴 01:25 Air alarm in Kherson region Stay tuned for further posts. #Kherson_region https://t.me/air_alert_ua/58293 The Shahed group is moving towards Ochakov! https://t.me/kpszsu/5323 ⚠️Mykolaiv - stay in shelters! https://t.me/kpszsu/5325 All clear as of 1944ET Caveat- this all happened just after midnight on the 18th, this is for the previous day. 
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:27:38 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:35:42 PM EST
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Increasing reports that Kadyrov is cargo 200. Chechen elite showing up in Moscow at the hospital. Developing.
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:39:38 PM EST
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Good casualty care footage. Drinking water is good. The pill pack is probably good. The Wolves of the 3rd SR storm Andriivka, despite the losses, the dense fire of enemy artillery and the desperate resistance of the enemy. 🐺🪖 This is what the battlefield looks like now, the scorched earth soaked in blood and littered with corpses. ☠️
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:44:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:45:42 PM EST
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ISW assessment for September 17th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-17-2023 ISW special report regarding Bakhmut. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine%E2%80%99s-operations-bakhmut-have-kept-russian-reserves-away-south |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:47:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Hmm. Mechanical losses plus unexplained losses. The unexplained losses suggest direct action by unknown parties. The rebels probably would’ve trumpeted their success against aircraft. Recall the arrest of executives of Motor Sich for treason. They were selling helicopter engines to Russia through third parties. It makes me wonder a bit - it seems if the SBU was looking ahead, before they made the bust there’s an opportunity to slip bad engines into some Russian helis. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Emergency with PMC "Wagner" in Africa: In a week, the "orchestra" lost two Mi-8 helicopters, a Su-25 attack aircraft and an An-26 military transport aircraft. Wagner Group sustains significant losses in clashes with Central African Republic rebels. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif Hmm. Mechanical losses plus unexplained losses. The unexplained losses suggest direct action by unknown parties. The rebels probably would’ve trumpeted their success against aircraft. Recall the arrest of executives of Motor Sich for treason. They were selling helicopter engines to Russia through third parties. It makes me wonder a bit - it seems if the SBU was looking ahead, before they made the bust there’s an opportunity to slip bad engines into some Russian helis. This is getting pretty far fetched on my end, but I recall reading in the leaks back in ~ March that the Ukrainians were seriously contemplating sending SOF assets into Syria to target Russian forces there. That's most likely not what's going on here, but it at least theoretically could be. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:48:52 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Once you realize his username is essentially Dick Jizz, the contents of his post starts to make sense. Yep. Totally not a retreaded banned member. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:52:25 PM EST
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It can be easy to overlook this because of the obvious appeal to emotion. This is what is happening nationally, to sentiment towards Russia. "Do you see how they destroyed the kindergarten?" |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:52:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1703508812362035355 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6QUPK2XcAAjAre?format=jpg&name=medium |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 6:57:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Increasing reports that Kadyrov is cargo 200. Chechen elite showing up in Moscow at the hospital. Developing. This could easily be old footage, but I'm still skeptical of these claims that he's dead. We seem to go through these a couple times a year.  
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:08:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: weptek911]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Good casualty care footage. Drinking water is good. The pill pack is probably good. The Wolves of the 3rd SR storm Andriivka, despite the losses, the dense fire of enemy artillery and the desperate resistance of the enemy. 🐺🪖 This is what the battlefield looks like now, the scorched earth soaked in blood and littered with corpses. ☠️
Motrin and water! Don’t forget to change your socks! Good as new. I hope this guy is able to recover fully and enjoy victory. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:17:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: This could easily be old footage, but I'm still skeptical of these claims that he's dead. We seem to go through these a couple times a year. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OKhODW0AAYJwa?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OKiVjXoAAd_iA?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6QNosOWIAAf0Gb?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Hopefully the CIA is busy at work. Gotta be LOTS of Chechens still on the “fuck Russia” bandwagon. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:18:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Thats Russias mode of genocide. Basically, because there are so many Russians there you cannot trust any polling against staying with Ukraine. In fact, Ukraine will probably have to expel all Russians and Russian heritage people from the peninsula. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By johnh57: Hasn't Russia been importing ethnic Russians into Crimea by the truckload and giving them property? Seems like there have been lots of stories about Russians being sold dirt cheap property and relocating to Crimea. It’s pretty straightforward. If there is no Ukrainian record of you owning property there pre-2014 you are deported. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:19:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OdkKsWkAA_wEL?format=jpg&name=small
This is the kind of crap that needs to stop by stomping Russia into the ground until they can’t fight on the battlefield OR have any funds or manpower to stir up trouble all over the world. Our aid to Ukraine is literally pennies on the dollar value for destroying the evil of Russia. They have no right to be left “stable” or intact or able to prosper. By all rights of humanity they should be stripped down to bare survival as Muscovy only and forced to work themselves rather than steal from everyone. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:37:14 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Hasn't Russia been importing ethnic Russians into Crimea by the truckload and giving them property? Seems like there have been lots of stories about Russians being sold dirt cheap property and relocating to Crimea. I read one report that Russia was promoting settlement of Crimea after they seized it in 2014. It is estimated that 500,000 Russians moved and settled there. If Ukraine takes back Crimea, I suspect most of these Russians will hightail it back to Mother Russia. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:37:27 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:42:10 PM EST
[#45]
I missed this yesterday.
Summary, by sector, of the areas (km²) gained or lost by the Ukrainian army from 06/04/23 until 09/15/23. 
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:42:47 PM EST
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Someone leaked a photo from Kaddy’s hospital room giving proof of life. Apparently in some REM sleep state. 😂
Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 7:57:14 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 8:36:13 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Hopefully the CIA is busy at work. Gotta be LOTS of Chechens still on the “fuck Russia” bandwagon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By Prime: This could easily be old footage, but I'm still skeptical of these claims that he's dead. We seem to go through these a couple times a year. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OKhODW0AAYJwa?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OKiVjXoAAd_iA?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6QNosOWIAAf0Gb?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Hopefully the CIA is busy at work. Gotta be LOTS of Chechens still on the “fuck Russia” bandwagon. Sure hope so, now is the opportunity to spark another independence run. |
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Posted: 9/17/2023 8:41:02 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2023 8:43:27 PM EST
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