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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 5:51:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 8:55:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Wtf?
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Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwVdcOXAAAZyrp?format=jpg&name=large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAxVKhvbcAArxQR?format=jpg&name=large

Wtf?

It's a big club and we ain't in it.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:16:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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This please.
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"deliver critically needed weapons at the speed of relevance"....yeah that would have been a good idea.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:35:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:40:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:47:12 AM EDT
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lol, official word is that it will indeed not buff out.


Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:48:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:50:31 AM EDT
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Cat runs away.

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:54:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:



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The whole thing is odd. Seems like they were saving them up for a massive salvo, but then they just launch a couple dozen?
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:55:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DonKey153:



The whole thing is odd. Seems like they were saving them up for a massive salvo, but then they just launch a couple dozen?
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Originally Posted By Prime:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAz6_a6XAAAcP4e?format=jpg&name=large
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The whole thing is odd. Seems like they were saving them up for a massive salvo, but then they just launch a couple dozen?



They might still just be prodding with some cruise missiles looking for holes in the air defenses.  Main target was Kyiv.  Using Shaheds to prod for holes in the air defenses will only take you so far.  They are much slower and easier to hit even by small arms fire.  Once you discover and plot a course where the Shahed can make it most of the way to your target, you can try a few 600 mph low altitude cruise missiles to see if they can make it through.  If they don't, then you know to try another route next time with the Shahed/Kaliber missiles for better results.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 9:59:51 AM EDT
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That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:04:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:20:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:25:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:33:33 AM EDT
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10 minutes of Magyar FPV drone attacks.

no translation.

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:38:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:39:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.


They need lots of that. Russia's throwing bodies at Avdiivka at a concerning rate.







Other sources saying this is Krasnohorivka, which is kinda near Avdiivka.

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:44:46 AM EDT
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Bundeswehr Academy Grad

This Ukrainian staff officer, trained at the @FueAkBwHH was promoted to general on December 6th. Congratulations Andriy!

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:53:53 AM EDT
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Minister of Defence welcomed her counterparts from V4 countries in Prague

Prague - Minister of Defence Jana Černochová (ODS) welcomed her counterparts from the Visegrad Group countries (V4 – Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary) at the National Memorial on Vítkov Hill today. The two-day meeting of Defence Ministers is hosted by Prague in connection with the V4 Presidency. They are to discuss, for example, the security situation in Ukraine and the Middle East and the impact of both conflicts on Central Europe and the Western Balkans.

https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/ministryne-obrany-privitala-v-praze-sve-protejsky-ze-zemi-v4/2450578



V4 Defence Ministers Approve Declaration, Includes Assistance to Ukraine

Prague - The countries of the Visegrad Group (V4 – Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary) will continue to support Ukraine in its defense against Russia as each country sees fit. For example, they share assistance to Ukraine in mine clearance, medical support or humanitarian aid. Defence Minister Jana Černochová (ODS) said this at a press conference after a meeting of the V4 Defence Ministers, Central European Defence Cooperation (CEDC) and the Western Balkan countries. At the meeting, the V4 countries approved a joint declaration.

https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/v-praze-pokracuje-setkani-ministru-obrany-stredoevropske-obranne-spoluprace/2451089



V4 Defence Ministers agree on a joint declaration, including assistance to Ukraine

According to Defence Minister Jana Černochová (ODS), the Visegrad Group (V4) countries have agreed on a joint declaration on support for Ukraine in defence against Russia as each country sees fit. She stated this at the end of the two-day summit of V4 Defence Ministers in Prague. Her Hungarian counterpart, Kristóf Szalay-Bobrovniczky, said Budapest would not send military aid to Kyiv, but would continue to supply the country with humanitarian supplies. The meeting was also joined by representatives of other Central European countries and the Western Balkans.

https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/clanek/domaci/ministri-obrany-v4-se-shodli-na-spolecne-deklaraci-zahrnuje-pomoc-ukrajine-344011

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 10:56:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:00:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:16:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


They need lots of that. Russia's throwing bodies at Avdiivka at a concerning rate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA0HNW7XoAAyvaf?format=jpg&name=large





Other sources saying this is Krasnohorivka, which is kinda near Avdiivka.

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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.


They need lots of that. Russia's throwing bodies at Avdiivka at a concerning rate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA0HNW7XoAAyvaf?format=jpg&name=large





Other sources saying this is Krasnohorivka, which is kinda near Avdiivka.



As far as the rounds skipping that looks like the BMPs firing 30mm tracers. I spent a lot of time watching that because it was pretty awesome.

Hate to be on the receiving end.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:18:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:

It's a big club and we ain't in it.
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:
Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwVdcOXAAAZyrp?format=jpg&name=large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAxVKhvbcAArxQR?format=jpg&name=large

Wtf?

It's a big club and we ain't in it.

That's for sure
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:21:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, official word is that it will indeed not buff out.


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But GD smoothlobes told me it was back shooting missiles at Kyiv,  
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:22:23 AM EDT
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Chinese state media-



Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:23:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.


Yea that doesn't look right
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:27:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Chinese state media-

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lol.  So, what about the Chinese and Russian military industrial complex?

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:35:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:39:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


They need lots of that. Russia's throwing bodies at Avdiivka at a concerning rate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA0HNW7XoAAyvaf?format=jpg&name=large





Other sources saying this is Krasnohorivka, which is kinda near Avdiivka.

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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


That doesn't even look real, it looks like some sort of video game.


They need lots of that. Russia's throwing bodies at Avdiivka at a concerning rate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA0HNW7XoAAyvaf?format=jpg&name=large





Other sources saying this is Krasnohorivka, which is kinda near Avdiivka.



Wouldn't that barrel be toast?
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:39:19 AM EDT
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Dbl tap
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:47:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

lol.  So, what about the Chinese and Russian military industrial complex?
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I'm sure that's different.

I'm interested in how tough it is to keep track of whether this is good for us or bad  for us.




Also,
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 11:53:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:00:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, official word is that it will indeed not buff out.


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So... Not "light damage"?

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:01:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


I'm sure that's different.

I'm interested in how tough it is to keep track of whether this is good for us or bad  for us.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/1X7lCRp8iE0yrdZvwd/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9525y62s9m5uhc7wqclx7qdbcwbo0q5xc1o0w60w0pv&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

lol.  So, what about the Chinese and Russian military industrial complex?


I'm sure that's different.

I'm interested in how tough it is to keep track of whether this is good for us or bad  for us.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/1X7lCRp8iE0yrdZvwd/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9525y62s9m5uhc7wqclx7qdbcwbo0q5xc1o0w60w0pv&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


Also,



It's good for us.  We got woken up because of the Ukrainian conflict, so we will be in a better position if or when China tries to do something with Taiwan.

As for the other article, it's cheaper to just give Taiwan extra anti ship missiles like Harpoon and Patriot for air defense, which they pay us for.  The Taiwanese are well aware of the threat and make some really nice deterrent weapons for themselves.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1186919198/taiwan-military-weapons-manufacturing-industry

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:01:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:03:11 PM EDT
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A magistrate in Moscow fined Google 4 million rubles for publishing videos on YouTube with false facts about the special operation. We were informed about this in the court district of the magistrate number 422, who made this decision.

https://t.me/tass_agency/221967





$44,000
Google will lose more than that on accounting errors today.

Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:08:09 PM EDT
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What a PoS.

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Wow, thanks for posting, I didn't know about her. I knew Austria was in general more friendly toward Russia, but that's a fully compromised person, like AfD in Germany.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:10:12 PM EDT
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Russian trench post-capture.
There are videos like this on both sides, but look at the density.
There's very little ground that doesn't have a body or discarded equipment on it.

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1733102104342884582
Obviously NSFWhatever
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:26:18 PM EDT
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Objectively, that's true.

The failure to deliver to Taiwan systems already budgeted & committed is pretty bad. It shows a major failure in US production/procurement systems.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:29:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Trump was brilliant in dealing with Mexico. Accept migrants staying in Mexico until their hearing or no more aid. Didn’t cost a penny. The border wall was secondary compared to reducing the huge convoys. Mexico CAN control ITS southern border if given the proper incentive.


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True. One thing the democrapts were right about is that "walls dont work" (when you make laws that allow people to transit through the walls unopposed).
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:33:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwVdcOXAAAZyrp?format=jpg&name=large


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I guess the Indian middle-men have been cut out and we are buying oil DIRECTLY from Russia.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:36:04 PM EDT
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Bodies and unburied mines in neat rows on the surface. What a shitshow!
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:37:21 PM EDT
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Could Ukraine engage privateers to seize Russian oil shipments? Any vessel with a Russian flag is fair game on the high seas.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:42:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Russian trench post-capture.
There are videos like this on both sides, but look at the density.
There's very little ground that doesn't have a body or discarded equipment on it.

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1733102104342884582
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Most people that watch that video will be thinking "damn, look at all those dead Russians!". Most ARFcomers (me included) watching that video are thinking "damn, look at all those free AK-74 mags scattered everywhere, wish I could grab some!". I just hope none of these end up on Cheaper Than Dirt. They would use the dead Russian smell as justification for charging $99.99 each.
Link Posted: 12/8/2023 12:45:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


Old pictures from September? that were postet here many times.

Look at the distinctive pattern where the mines exploded near the two BTRs.

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I was wondering what caused that pattern of craters. Daisy-chained mines? Sympathetic detonations? There are new mines in rows just outside the craters that must be newly emplaced.
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