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Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:12:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

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It's starting to sound more and more like the rumors of him being killed or badly wounded in that strike a few weeks ago are true.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:14:33 PM EDT
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Now crank it up 500 percent.

One refinery a day keeps the Russian economy in flames
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And shut down the fucking pipeline. That Russian gas is still flowing through Ukraine is beyond perplexing
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:15:01 PM EDT
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A kilometer from the destroyed helicopters 🙄



Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:23:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:25:50 PM EDT
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“Fired.”
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:37:45 PM EDT
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Actually they have been using a shit ton of glide bombs. They wreck shit and there isn't but a few minutes notice before they hit.
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You guys will see a increase usage of glide bombs from here on out.  Don’t be surprised when they start using several hundred a day later this spring.  Hopefully some solution to keep the bomber out of range is figured out soon.  F16’s arriving in July or later will be to late.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:41:40 PM EDT
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https://twitter.com/TreasChest/status/1768008282126406099
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 3:58:01 PM EDT
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C141 was my favorite aircraft to jump from

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My grandpa was instrumental in getting their service life extended. He was a reservist and went to DC on his own time to lobby.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:04:54 PM EDT
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Mine thrower mounted on SUV.

Orc mobile.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:17:29 PM EDT
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According to American intelligence, Russia does not “want a direct military conflict” with NATO


In recent months, several European political and military leaders have warned of the risk of war with Russia. This is, for example, the case of Boris Pistorius, the German Minister of Defense. On several occasions, he affirmed that such an eventuality could occur within five to eight years and that, therefore, it was necessary to prepare for it.

Head of Belgian Defense, Admiral Michel Hofman expressed the same point of view. “Those who aspire to peace would do well to prepare for war, in order to dissuade Russia from opening a conflict in parallel with the conflict in Ukraine,” he said last December.

On March 12, in the National Assembly, during the debate [followed by a non-binding vote] on the Franco-Ukrainian security agreement and the situation in Ukraine, Prime Minister Gabriel Attal considered that "turning our back » in Kiev “would be turning our back on our values, betraying the trust of our allies and showing weakness. This would certainly not be moving towards peace, it would be opening the door to new conflicts, to new wounds, to new wars.”

However, it remains to be seen whether Russia would be ready to open another front, after that of Ukraine... No doubt the Kremlin is considering it for the Moldovan region of Transnistria. But for the Office of the Director of American National Intelligence [ODNI – Office of Director of National Intelligence], whose mission is to coordinate and supervise the sixteen American intelligence agencies, believes that Moscow “does not want” a military confrontation directly with the United States and NATO.

This is indeed what this organization [currently led by Avril Haines] states in its latest threat assessment, published on March 12.


“Russia certainly does not want a direct military conflict with American and NATO forces. It will continue its asymmetric activities below what it considers to be the threshold of conflict on a global scale,” states this document. “President Vladimir Putin probably believes that Russia has blunted Ukrainian efforts to retake important territory [during last spring's counteroffensive, editor's note], that its approach to winning the war is paying off and that Western support in Kiev is limited, especially in light of the war between Israel and Hamas,” he continues.

However, the American intelligence community believes that the head of the Kremlin has "undermined the geopolitical, economic and military renaissance of Russia", which remains "a resilient adversary" which will seek to "promote its interests on a global scale and to undermine the positions of the United States in particular and those of the West in general.

Furthermore, strengthening Russia's ties with China, Iran and North Korea constitutes a “significant challenge” for the United States and its allies.

Additionally, the US intelligence brief warns of Russia's [or even China's] exploitation of ethnic and religious tensions in the Western Balkans, some of which have been invited to join the European Union [EU] or are considering to join NATO.

This region will "likely face an increased risk of localized inter-ethnic violence in 2024. Nationalist leaders are likely to exacerbate tensions for their political benefit and that of external actors aiming to strengthen their regional influence or thwart further great integration of the Balkans into the EU or Euro-Atlantic institutions,” warns the ODNI.

https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/13/selon-le-renseignement-americain-la-russie-ne-veut-pas-dun-conflit-militaire-direct-avec-lotan/

Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:25:21 PM EDT
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tank goryonov?
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:28:30 PM EDT
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You guys will see a increase usage of glide bombs from here on out.  Don’t be surprised when they start using several hundred a day later this spring.  Hopefully some solution to keep the bomber out of range is figured out soon.  F16’s arriving in July or later will be to late.
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Actually they have been using a shit ton of glide bombs. They wreck shit and there isn't but a few minutes notice before they hit.


You guys will see a increase usage of glide bombs from here on out.  Don’t be surprised when they start using several hundred a day later this spring.  Hopefully some solution to keep the bomber out of range is figured out soon.  F16’s arriving in July or later will be to late.
THIS!!!  😞
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:37:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/13/2024 4:41:53 PM EDT
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The largest refinery in southern Russia has suspended production after a Ukrainian drone attack


Ukrainian drones attacked another refinery in Russia on Wednesday. This time, drones hit the Petroleum Products Plant in Novoshakhtinsk in the Rostov Oblast, military intelligence in Kiev reported, adding that the facility was used for military purposes. The governor of the Rostov region announced that three downed drones landed on the refinery area.
The attack turned out to be effective, the company stopped production - reported Ukrainian military intelligence, quoted by the Ukraińska Pravda website. In a post on the X platform (formerly Twitter), Ukraińska Pravda published a photo of the plant before the attack.


The Russian side presented the situation differently, claiming that three downed drones landed on the plant's premises. Reuters and Interfax agencies quoted the governor of the Rostov region, Vasily Golubev, who wrote on the Telegram channel that "production was suspended after downed drones landed on the territory of the refinery."

"According to current information, drones fell on the premises of the oil products plant in Novoshakhtinsk. There were no deaths or injuries," the official said.

The plant is "out of operation"

The Rostov Oblast authorities reported that the refinery in Novoshakhtinsk "is not operational due to a drone strike."

The Russian daily Kommersant recalled that the refinery in Novoshakhtinsk was already attacked by drones in June 2022 and May last year. "It is the largest oil refinery in southern Russia. It produces gasoline, heating oil, ship oil, diesel oil and heating oil," the newspaper wrote. She stated that the plant's maximum annual processing capacity is 5.6 million tons.

Refinery "military facility"

The representative of military intelligence in Kiev, Andriy Yusov, said on Ukrainian television that the refinery in Novoshakhtinsk was a "military facility."

"This is a facility that supplied a group of occupation forces in Ukraine. We do not comment further on this information," Yusov said.
According to an intelligence official, the company's work has been suspended, which means that "there will be problems and disruptions to some of the enemy's plans, as well as additional opportunities and time for Ukrainian defenders."

Yusov did not officially confirm whether the Ukrainian services were behind the attack. "We do not confirm it, but we do not deny it either," he said, quoted by the Ukrainian UNIAN agency.

Earlier on Wednesday, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) stated that on the night from Tuesday to Wednesday it carried out drone attacks on three refineries in Russia : in Ryazan, as well as in Kstovo in the Nizhny Novgorod region and Kirshi in the Leningrad region. The Ministry of Defense in Moscow reported that 65 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles attacked various facilities in six regions of the country. Independent Russian media reported before the ministry's announcement that regions in Russia were attacked by at least 50 drones.

Attacks on Tuesday

Reports about drone strikes and fires also appeared from the early morning hours on Tuesday. At that time, the Russian central and regional authorities reported 25 downed machines in nine regions of Russia. Strikes at fuel bases and oil processing plants in the Nizhny Novgorod and Orlov Oblasts, as well as a fire near a thermal power plant in St. Petersburg, were confirmed.

Last week, the media reported drone attacks on industrial facilities important for the Russian arms industry - the Mikhailovsky Mining and Processing Plant in Zheleznogorsk in the Kursk Oblast, as well as the metallurgical plants of the Severstal concern in Cherepovets in the Vologda Oblast.

https://tvn24.pl/swiat/rosja-atak-dronow-na-najwieksza-rafinerie-na-poludniu-rosji-wstrzymala-produkcje-st7819178

Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:06:07 PM EDT
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It's like a shitty Wish.com version of Kill Dozer with a gun
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It's like a shitty Wish.com version of Kill Dozer with a gun

Needs ability to depress gun further,  but cab is in the way.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:24:33 PM EDT
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Major respect. This call was actually quite incredible. This is real life in a crisis situation, not a fictional movie.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:31:48 PM EDT
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So, I guess Ukraine found components for all the drones they're using to slam Russian oil infrastructure.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:42:58 PM EDT
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Ukrainian drones appear to have cut Russian military shipping route through the Red Sea, forcing ships to sail to the Baltic

...Throughout the war in Ukraine, the transport ship Sparta-IV and the tanker Yaz have been central to Russian logistics shipments into the Black Sea. Sparta-IV is one of a series of Russian-owned ships that have previously brought artillery and S-300 air defence missiles from the Russian base at Tartus in Syria to Novorossiysk on the Black Sea

These vessels are sanctioned by the UK, Ukraine and the US for "delivering maritime goods on behalf of the Russian Ministry of Defence" but until recently this has had no effect. Turkey, which could deny passage of the Bosporus Strait under the terms of the Montreux Convention, has chosen not to. RUSI research shows that Sparta-IV made six runs to and from the Black Sea in 2023, including prolonged periods with her Automatic Identification System (AIS) system switched off   behaviour often associated with smuggling and illicit activities.

But then last month both the Sparta-IV and the Yaz unexpectedly turned around as they were approaching the southern entrance to the Bosporus. They returned to Tartus and are now heading to Russia via the Baltic. This is a huge delay, and then one must consider the onward overland journey necessary to get their cargoes to the theatre of war. Materiel landed at Novorossiysk had just a hundred miles to go to the Kerch bridges and the battlefields. What was a fairly simple piece of shipping becomes a continental odyssey.

Initially it was assessed that Turkey had finally denied permission to pass through but on closer analysis, it appears that in fact the USV threat in the Black Sea is now so high, the Russians don't believe it worth the risk, even with a military escort.

As ever, the problem is wider than just these two ships. There are believed to be at least 69 ships on the US sanction list and by the time you get to ships suspected of smuggling grain and oil out of the Black Sea, the list is longer still. But Sparta-IV is one of just a handful of ships smuggling weapons: forcing her not to enter the Black Sea is as significant as the sinking of the Russian flagship Moskva way back in April 2022, maybe more so. Whilst the Moskva strike was an embarrassing operational and tactical failure   and totemic   the effect now is strategic. Moskva showed Russia's shortcomings in fighting in the maritime domain. The inability to protect its logistics now could, over time, affect Russian ability to fight in all domains....
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:44:54 PM EDT
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Wow! Getting direct access to top-level intergovernmental communications is pretty amazing.

Macron is a smart guy, and seems reasonably effective. I may dislike some of his politics, but my quick take is that he's somebody one could do business with.

Putin is scheming, and obfuscates every step. Won't make any commitment. In that call, Putin seems just as slimy as I thought he was from other stories/videos. And of course he states complete absurdities. Zalensky was an actor during Maidan, he wasn't a political player. And he was 100% democratically elected. There's no credible claim otherwise. Ukraine's elections are every bit as trustworthy and reliable as American elections, maybe more so.

Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:47:42 PM EDT
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Impressive for a country with a population of 1/4 of Kyiv city.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 5:50:56 PM EDT
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It's a start.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 6:26:26 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info on the war guys, just got our pup back after her surgery.  Just have to keep her less active for two weeks and they will let us know more about the tumor when the tests come back next week.  She is doing well once she realized she was back home.


Cone of shame...
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Link Posted: 3/13/2024 6:33:59 PM EDT
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Major respect. This call was actually quite incredible. This is real life in a crisis situation, not a fictional movie.
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Major respect. This call was actually quite incredible. This is real life in a crisis situation, not a fictional movie.



I never thought I would live long enough to say something like this about a French President:  I would swap Biden for Macron, even up. I would not ask for anything extra.

My esteem of Macron has went up several points in the last couple of years.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 6:39:08 PM EDT
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Tough gig to be in the military along with those Danish girls.  
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 6:51:51 PM EDT
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According to American intelligence, Russia does not “want a direct military conflict” with NATO


In recent months, several European political and military leaders have warned of the risk of war with Russia. This is, for example, the case of Boris Pistorius, the German Minister of Defense. On several occasions, he affirmed that such an eventuality could occur within five to eight years and that, therefore, it was necessary to prepare for it.

Head of Belgian Defense, Admiral Michel Hofman expressed the same point of view. “Those who aspire to peace would do well to prepare for war, in order to dissuade Russia from opening a conflict in parallel with the conflict in Ukraine,” he said last December.

On March 12, in the National Assembly, during the debate [followed by a non-binding vote] on the Franco-Ukrainian security agreement and the situation in Ukraine, Prime Minister Gabriel Attal considered that "turning our back » in Kiev “would be turning our back on our values, betraying the trust of our allies and showing weakness. This would certainly not be moving towards peace, it would be opening the door to new conflicts, to new wounds, to new wars.”

However, it remains to be seen whether Russia would be ready to open another front, after that of Ukraine... No doubt the Kremlin is considering it for the Moldovan region of Transnistria. But for the Office of the Director of American National Intelligence [ODNI – Office of Director of National Intelligence], whose mission is to coordinate and supervise the sixteen American intelligence agencies, believes that Moscow “does not want” a military confrontation directly with the United States and NATO.

This is indeed what this organization [currently led by Avril Haines] states in its latest threat assessment, published on March 12.


“Russia certainly does not want a direct military conflict with American and NATO forces. It will continue its asymmetric activities below what it considers to be the threshold of conflict on a global scale,” states this document. “President Vladimir Putin probably believes that Russia has blunted Ukrainian efforts to retake important territory [during last spring's counteroffensive, editor's note], that its approach to winning the war is paying off and that Western support in Kiev is limited, especially in light of the war between Israel and Hamas,” he continues.

However, the American intelligence community believes that the head of the Kremlin has "undermined the geopolitical, economic and military renaissance of Russia", which remains "a resilient adversary" which will seek to "promote its interests on a global scale and to undermine the positions of the United States in particular and those of the West in general.

Furthermore, strengthening Russia's ties with China, Iran and North Korea constitutes a “significant challenge” for the United States and its allies.

Additionally, the US intelligence brief warns of Russia's [or even China's] exploitation of ethnic and religious tensions in the Western Balkans, some of which have been invited to join the European Union [EU] or are considering to join NATO.

This region will "likely face an increased risk of localized inter-ethnic violence in 2024. Nationalist leaders are likely to exacerbate tensions for their political benefit and that of external actors aiming to strengthen their regional influence or thwart further great integration of the Balkans into the EU or Euro-Atlantic institutions,” warns the ODNI.

https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/13/selon-le-renseignement-americain-la-russie-ne-veut-pas-dun-conflit-militaire-direct-avec-lotan/

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For not wanting a direct conflict with NATO, they sure have a funny way of showing it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 7:02:57 PM EDT
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The geese may be safe.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 7:21:36 PM EDT
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There is a 50km band behind the front lines where Russian forces are using ballistic missiles to hit high value targets.
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Three helicopters struck with a cluster missile (Tornado-S), probably in order to make their evacuation impossible. The impact mainly came on 2 sides, the third was able to take off. After that, the remaining two helicopters were attacked with guided air missiles. Adjustment and visual fixation is performed by the Supercam S350 UAV.

There should be no more doubt about Russia's ability to conduct real-time strikes on highly mobile AFU targets. The AFU needs to learn and change their tactics. This isn't the Russian military in 2022 anymore.


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There is a 50km band behind the front lines where Russian forces are using ballistic missiles to hit high value targets.


Yeah something has changed these past few weeks. Russia is seemingly quick at target acquisition. What munitions were those that hit at the end? If they are glide bombs it would be some evidence that Russia has learned how to coordinate and deliver quick air strikes.

Also irritating that training on Mirage 2000s and F-18s wasn't done 2 years ago. France and Australia respectively have retired a large number of those planes and they if training was approved 2 years back they might have been on track to enter service around the time F-16s would have.
France retired their last Mirage 2000Cs in 2022.



Ukrainian pilots should have started training summer 2022 on these.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:01:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K0UA:

I never thought I would live long enough to say something like this about a French President:  I would swap Biden for Macron, even up. I would not ask for anything extra.

My esteem of Macron has went up several points in the last couple of years.
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Major respect. This call was actually quite incredible. This is real life in a crisis situation, not a fictional movie.

I never thought I would live long enough to say something like this about a French President:  I would swap Biden for Macron, even up. I would not ask for anything extra.

My esteem of Macron has went up several points in the last couple of years.

It's a pretty low bar; Biden can't say anything coherent at all without a written note or a teleprompter.

Here's another thing about that conversation: by the date this call took place, Putin was already 99% go on the invasion. You have Macron and others scrambling to play catch-up, but Putin is steadily following the plan made years before. The time to respond was in fall of 2021 when the 'exercises' should have been over if they were exercises. The buildup began almost exactly three years ago now. By the time this call was made, concrete actions should have already been rolling, like literal shiploads of surplus M113s, Bradleys, M1s, M198, M109s, M270s with ammo for all headed to Poland. By the time this call was made, two or three dozen Ukrainian air & ground crews should have already been receiving training on F16, Mirage, F18, whatever.

I agree with Capta; the time to have deterred this action was in 2014 at the latest, but really 2008. Hanging Georgia out to dry with no serious consequences was a huge failure, and a total green-light for Putin's action in Ukraine.

As Khordokovsky said, Putin only stops when someone makes him stop with matching or superior force. Nothing less will do.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:14:53 PM EDT
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For not wanting a direct conflict with NATO, they sure have a funny way of showing it.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
According to American intelligence, Russia does not “want a direct military conflict” with NATO


In recent months, several European political and military leaders have warned of the risk of war with Russia. This is, for example, the case of Boris Pistorius, the German Minister of Defense. On several occasions, he affirmed that such an eventuality could occur within five to eight years and that, therefore, it was necessary to prepare for it.

Head of Belgian Defense, Admiral Michel Hofman expressed the same point of view. “Those who aspire to peace would do well to prepare for war, in order to dissuade Russia from opening a conflict in parallel with the conflict in Ukraine,” he said last December.

On March 12, in the National Assembly, during the debate [followed by a non-binding vote] on the Franco-Ukrainian security agreement and the situation in Ukraine, Prime Minister Gabriel Attal considered that "turning our back » in Kiev “would be turning our back on our values, betraying the trust of our allies and showing weakness. This would certainly not be moving towards peace, it would be opening the door to new conflicts, to new wounds, to new wars.”

However, it remains to be seen whether Russia would be ready to open another front, after that of Ukraine... No doubt the Kremlin is considering it for the Moldovan region of Transnistria. But for the Office of the Director of American National Intelligence [ODNI – Office of Director of National Intelligence], whose mission is to coordinate and supervise the sixteen American intelligence agencies, believes that Moscow “does not want” a military confrontation directly with the United States and NATO.

This is indeed what this organization [currently led by Avril Haines] states in its latest threat assessment, published on March 12.


“Russia certainly does not want a direct military conflict with American and NATO forces. It will continue its asymmetric activities below what it considers to be the threshold of conflict on a global scale,” states this document. “President Vladimir Putin probably believes that Russia has blunted Ukrainian efforts to retake important territory [during last spring's counteroffensive, editor's note], that its approach to winning the war is paying off and that Western support in Kiev is limited, especially in light of the war between Israel and Hamas,” he continues.

However, the American intelligence community believes that the head of the Kremlin has "undermined the geopolitical, economic and military renaissance of Russia", which remains "a resilient adversary" which will seek to "promote its interests on a global scale and to undermine the positions of the United States in particular and those of the West in general.

Furthermore, strengthening Russia's ties with China, Iran and North Korea constitutes a “significant challenge” for the United States and its allies.

Additionally, the US intelligence brief warns of Russia's [or even China's] exploitation of ethnic and religious tensions in the Western Balkans, some of which have been invited to join the European Union [EU] or are considering to join NATO.

This region will "likely face an increased risk of localized inter-ethnic violence in 2024. Nationalist leaders are likely to exacerbate tensions for their political benefit and that of external actors aiming to strengthen their regional influence or thwart further great integration of the Balkans into the EU or Euro-Atlantic institutions,” warns the ODNI.

https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/13/selon-le-renseignement-americain-la-russie-ne-veut-pas-dun-conflit-militaire-direct-avec-lotan/



For not wanting a direct conflict with NATO, they sure have a funny way of showing it.


Russia's rhetoric is for internal consumption. Even their silliest of sycophants are aware of the implications of an open war with NATO.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:15:35 PM EDT
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It's starting to sound more and more like the rumors of him being killed or badly wounded in that strike a few weeks ago are true.
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It's starting to sound more and more like the rumors of him being killed or badly wounded in that strike a few weeks ago are true.

The last credible sighting of Gerasimov was on Dec 29, 2023.

Also the last credible sighting of Admiral Sokolov, commander BSF, was prior to 9/22/23.  This is from the wikipedia on the issue of Sokolov:

On 22 September 2023, Ukraine claimed that Sokolov, and many other officers, were killed at a meeting when the Black Sea Fleet HQ at Sevastopol, Crimea was hit by Storm Shadows cruise missiles fired by Ukraine in what was referred to as Operation Crab Trap.[11][12][13][14]
Following these claims, Sokolov was shown on Russian state television attending a defence leaders' meeting remotely the day after the attack. The Russian government stated that they had received no information on Sokolov's death.[15] The BBC reported on 27 September that it was unable to verify whether the meeting was held on the date of the attack, or whether the image of Sokolov on television was later than the attack. Following the Russian denial, Ukraine modified their claim, saying that it came from "open sources".[16] On 27 September two other videos featuring Sokolov were published by Russian media.[17] One of which was reported as him presenting awards to FC Sevastopol players "at this moment"; although the club itself had earlier stated that this ceremony would take place on 20 September.[17] In the other video Sokolov is mentioning the awarding of the 810th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade with the Medal of Ushakov, on 29 August 2023 Mikhail Razvozhayev, the Russian installed governor of Sevastopol, had announced that the 810th Brigade had been presented with this medal.[17] According to Radio Free Europe journalist Mark Krutov a second award ceremony for the football team was held on 27 September, this time attended by Sokolov.[18]


There is another video they don’t mention - a few days after the BSFHQ was bombed, the Russians released an interview where a female reporter asks him about “the event that recently happened in Sevastopol.”  The question was not received kindly by Sokolov and it seems clear the Russians released the video intending to imply that they were talking about the BSFHQ bombing.  However, this was not actually stated in the interview.  The Minsk and Rostov-on-Don were destroyed in a SS strike a week or so prior, ergo the interview very easily could’ve pertained to this event, not the BSF bombing.

I think it’s entirely possible that both are dead.
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Definitely a data point to keep in mind.  If the Europeans actually start taking steps towards mobilization you know how serious they think the threat is.  Particularly places like the Baltics, Finland, and Poland.
Poland is arguable already moving in that direction.  Finland might step up their readiness and start holding major drills and exercises.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:25:14 PM EDT
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I do not believe Russia loses this war unless NATO enters it proper, which I believe will happen at some point.

I appreciate the pride and resolve UKR is showing, but I believe reality is creeping up.

UKR tactics have stalled or are ineffective due to a myriad of reasons and RUS seems to be making inroads with surveillance and targeting of important assets.

Sure the shitty RUS meat assault tactic sucks, but it is clearly working. When you have (x)amount more disposable soldiers, it's just a numbers game.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:26:55 PM EDT
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Ukrainian drones appear to have cut Russian military shipping route through the Red Sea, forcing ships to sail to the Baltic

...Throughout the war in Ukraine, the transport ship Sparta-IV and the tanker Yaz have been central to Russian logistics shipments into the Black Sea. Sparta-IV is one of a series of Russian-owned ships that have previously brought artillery and S-300 air defence missiles from the Russian base at Tartus in Syria to Novorossiysk on the Black Sea

These vessels are sanctioned by the UK, Ukraine and the US for "delivering maritime goods on behalf of the Russian Ministry of Defence" but until recently this has had no effect. Turkey, which could deny passage of the Bosporus Strait under the terms of the Montreux Convention, has chosen not to. RUSI research shows that Sparta-IV made six runs to and from the Black Sea in 2023, including prolonged periods with her Automatic Identification System (AIS) system switched off   behaviour often associated with smuggling and illicit activities.

But then last month both the Sparta-IV and the Yaz unexpectedly turned around as they were approaching the southern entrance to the Bosporus. They returned to Tartus and are now heading to Russia via the Baltic. This is a huge delay, and then one must consider the onward overland journey necessary to get their cargoes to the theatre of war. Materiel landed at Novorossiysk had just a hundred miles to go to the Kerch bridges and the battlefields. What was a fairly simple piece of shipping becomes a continental odyssey.

Initially it was assessed that Turkey had finally denied permission to pass through but on closer analysis, it appears that in fact the USV threat in the Black Sea is now so high, the Russians don't believe it worth the risk, even with a military escort.

As ever, the problem is wider than just these two ships. There are believed to be at least 69 ships on the US sanction list and by the time you get to ships suspected of smuggling grain and oil out of the Black Sea, the list is longer still. But Sparta-IV is one of just a handful of ships smuggling weapons: forcing her not to enter the Black Sea is as significant as the sinking of the Russian flagship Moskva way back in April 2022, maybe more so. Whilst the Moskva strike was an embarrassing operational and tactical failure   and totemic   the effect now is strategic. Moskva showed Russia's shortcomings in fighting in the maritime domain. The inability to protect its logistics now could, over time, affect Russian ability to fight in all domains....
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Pretty goddam funny that Russia is more worried about Ukrainian power projection in the eastern Black Sea than Ukraine is worried about Russian power projection in the western Black Sea.
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 8:30:57 PM EDT
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Russia's rhetoric is for internal consumption. Even their silliest of sycophants are aware of the implications of an open war with NATO.
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Russia's rhetoric is for internal consumption - to build and maintain support for the regime, and for the regime's imperialist war goals.

One of the regime's core goals is to break NATO's power. Pressuring NATO in every dimension helps that. It's been my feeling that Putin could take the Baltics and present it as a fait accompli. Could NATO muster the power to go in a drive Russia out? Unlikely, without a huge American participation which is anything but guaranteed, and is guaranteed to cost many lives. That could be the ultimate end for NATO, if Putin isn't shown that there is will to stop him. When it comes to a contest of wills, Putin and Russia are the strongest in the world, and Xi with China next. America is extremely weak. Weak is dangerous. Weakness foments conflict.
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I do not believe Russia loses this war unless NATO enters it proper, which I believe will happen at some point.

I appreciate the pride and resolve UKR is showing, but I believe reality is creeping up.

UKR tactics have stalled or are ineffective due to a myriad of reasons and RUS seems to be making inroads with surveillance and targeting of important assets.

Sure the shitty RUS meat assault tactic sucks, but it is clearly working. When you have (x)amount more disposable soldiers, it's just a numbers game.
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The big variable I see is oil production. If Ukraine consistently prevents them from refining and bringing their oil products to market, there's no telling what will happen to the Russian economy.

Russia can't keep the war going indefinitely. With their main export under attack, they're on a timer.
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Ahem, translation error....they meant Firing squad
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 9:23:09 PM EDT
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And shut down the fucking pipeline. That Russian gas is still flowing through Ukraine is beyond perplexing
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Now crank it up 500 percent.

One refinery a day keeps the Russian economy in flames
And shut down the fucking pipeline. That Russian gas is still flowing through Ukraine is beyond perplexing

They have contracts in place not just with Russia but also EU countries. However, my understanding is that these contracts will run out sometime this year, as they are not planning to negotiate an extension. So, they will end them while respecting their own obligations. Europe will have to figure out how they will prepare for the next winter.
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Good to hear


ETA:  that was meant for A_T on the dog at hm update
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Yeah something has changed these past few weeks. Russia is seemingly quick at target acquisition. What munitions were those that hit at the end? If they are glide bombs it would be some evidence that Russia has learned how to coordinate and deliver quick air strikes.

Also irritating that training on Mirage 2000s and F-18s wasn't done 2 years ago. France and Australia respectively have retired a large number of those planes and they if training was approved 2 years back they might have been on track to enter service around the time F-16s would have.
France retired their last Mirage 2000Cs in 2022.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUgItZqWYAAkVmK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Ukrainian pilots should have started training summer 2022 on these.
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Three helicopters struck with a cluster missile (Tornado-S), probably in order to make their evacuation impossible. The impact mainly came on 2 sides, the third was able to take off. After that, the remaining two helicopters were attacked with guided air missiles. Adjustment and visual fixation is performed by the Supercam S350 UAV.

There should be no more doubt about Russia's ability to conduct real-time strikes on highly mobile AFU targets. The AFU needs to learn and change their tactics. This isn't the Russian military in 2022 anymore.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIjL9FpXwAAescK?format=jpg&name=large


There is a 50km band behind the front lines where Russian forces are using ballistic missiles to hit high value targets.


Yeah something has changed these past few weeks. Russia is seemingly quick at target acquisition. What munitions were those that hit at the end? If they are glide bombs it would be some evidence that Russia has learned how to coordinate and deliver quick air strikes.

Also irritating that training on Mirage 2000s and F-18s wasn't done 2 years ago. France and Australia respectively have retired a large number of those planes and they if training was approved 2 years back they might have been on track to enter service around the time F-16s would have.
France retired their last Mirage 2000Cs in 2022.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUgItZqWYAAkVmK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Ukrainian pilots should have started training summer 2022 on these.


They claim the munitions were a cluster version from the Tornado 300mm MLRS system.  Either way, the Russians are using the ballistic missiles or rockets to hit targets quickly that the drones are spotting.  Get rid of the Russian drones, and you solve the problem behind the front lines.

On the second part, I certainly agree that stuff should have been in place to get pilots trained on various Western aircraft before the invasion began.
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Today has been pretty much one long tantrum.

2203ET
⚠️Currently recorded UAVs:
▪️Chernihivshchyna→Sumshchyna (Konotop).
▪️Sumshchyna→Konotop/district
▪️Sumshchyna→Trostianets/Sumi.
▪️Poltavshchyna→Sumshchyna (Romny).
▪️Kharkivshchyna→Izyum/district
▪️Kharkivshchyna→Chuguyiv/district
The direction may change.
Stay in shelters 🙏


https://t.me/povitryanatrivogaaa/81490



💥 Kharkiv region - air defense is working

https://t.me/povitryanatrivogaaa/81491

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Romania is not abandoning the Republic of Moldova. The Romanian army provides military assistance and the Romanian special forces train the Moldovan troops



The Republic of Moldova is the main foreign policy objective for Romania. And from a military point of view, the security assistance that Romania offers to the other bank of the Prut, where the Romanian language is also spoken, is decisive.



With the invasion of Ukraine by Russia on February 24, 2022, the security situation in Chisinau deteriorated dangerously.

Moldova, a historical part of the Romanian Principalities, annexed in 1812 by the Russian Empire, went through the Soviet period as a republic of the USSR. Today, with a Euro-Atlantic leadership, the Republic of Moldova aspires to integrate into the European Union in 2030, but it faces a powerful hybrid war waged by Russian propaganda against the small state.

Moldova's vulnerability is Transnistria, a separatist region where Russian forces still exist and Ukraine acts as a shield for Moldova. The war between Transnistrian separatists supported by Russia and the Republic of Moldova was started in 1990, currently the conflict is frozen, there is always the risk of its thawing by Russia. In this context, the worst scenario for Moldova would be for Russia to succeed in achieving its goal of occupying the entire southeast of Ukraine, including the Odesa region, and thus making the junction with its troops in Transnistria.

In all this complicated climate for the Republic of Moldova, which is also facing an intense hybrid war waged by Russian propaganda, Romania accelerated its support for the neighboring state. Romania's role was also decisive in the energy crisis triggered after the invasion of Ukraine when Bucharest literally kept the light on in Moldova.

From an economic perspective, Romania's role is highlighted by the figures. Recently, the Ambassador of the Republic of Moldova in Romania, His Excellency Victor Chirilă announced that  Romania has become the first commercial partner of the Republic of Moldova, far ahead of the Russian Federation and other partner states of the Republic of Moldova, but also the first "foreign" investor with over 400 millions of euros .

Romania's support for the Republic of Moldova is also military

However, the support provided by Romania also translates into security assistance. And the president of the Republic of Moldova, Maia Sandu, spoke about this during her visit to Romania last week.

In the context in which Moldova is going through an ambitious process of modernizing its armed forces, in order to recover the huge gap from a military point of view compared to other European states, Romania also gets involved through joint exercises or troop training programs.

"We receive security assistance (no from the military point of view, from Romania), we participate in joint training, joint military exercises, we have support for the defense system. In the last two years we have probably done more for the defense system than has been done in the last 30 years. The system was largely ignored on purpose," Maia Sandu emphasized in an interview given to Digi 24 last week.

The President of Moldova added, speaking about the constitutional neutrality of Moldova, that "Russia is the only country in the world that violates the neutrality of the Republic of Moldova".

"Russia has troops on our territory without our consent. The Russian narrative and propaganda say that neutrality means that the Republic of Moldova does not have to have an equipped army and a defense system. What this means? To be neutral means to be helpless and weak?", Maia Sandu asked rhetorically.

"In many cases politicians paid by the Kremlin, and in others corruption and negligence, led to the fact that our defense was very weak", concluded Maia Sandu.

It's no secret that the Special Operations Forces (SOS) from the Republic of Moldova have been training for several years alongside the SOS from Romania and the USA. Regarding the structure of the special forces, Romania has one of the best trained FOS in the region and beyond.

Romania offers support including at the level of military doctrine, a concept that the Romanian Army is organized on Western principles.

Romania was also actively involved in equipping the Army of the Republic of Moldova. At the beginning of last year, Moldova received the first Piranha 3 combat transporters, out of 19 transporters that Germany will deliver to Moldova.

The transfer was made at Romania's suggestion. The armored vehicles were transferred through the Support Platform for the Republic of Moldova, an initiative co-chaired by Romania, alongside Germany, France and the Republic of Moldova.

https://www.defenseromania.ro/romania-nu-abandoneaza-republica-moldova-armata-romaniei-ofera-asistenta-militara-iar-fortele-speciale-romane-antreneaza-trupele-moldovenesti_627361.html




Vladimir Plahotniuc, Ilan Shor could remain without Moldovan citizenship

The presidency announced that it will examine the request of the Moldovan National Party on withdrawal of Moldovan citizenship for Vladimir Plahotniuc and Ilan Shor.



The Moldovan National Party announced today that it has asked President Maia Sandu to examine the possibility of withdrawing Moldovan citizenship for Vladimir Plahotniuc and Ilan Shor.

"Russia is trying to undermine us, as a state, as free people, using these two obscure characters, which is why we must act firmly on them," the party said in a statement.

PNM considers that the withdrawal of citizenship for Plahotniuc and Shor would not affect in any way the course of investigations and in general the act of justice in which the two are targeted on the territory of the Republic of Moldova.

"Taking into account the precedent established by the presidential decree of 27.11.2023, on the withdrawal of citizenship for Alexandr Kalinin, and the fact that V. Plahotniuc and I. Shor also hold the citizenship of other states, the withdrawal of the citizenship of the Republic of Moldova can be carried out according to art. 23 para. (1) letter c) of Law 1024/2000 on the citizenship of the Republic of Moldova," the press release also reads.

In this context, the head of the Apparatus of the President of the Republic of Moldova, Adrian Balutel, said that according to the Law on Citizenship of the Republic of Moldova, Article 23, the citizenship of the Republic of Moldova may be withdrawn by a decree of the President of the Republic of Moldova to the person who "c) committed particularly serious acts causing essential damages to the state, proven by the court".

"At the same time, the two mentioned persons, as Moldovan citizens, must answer before the law for crimes committed against the state and theft of people's money, to answer in Moldovan prisons before the legislation of the Republic of Moldova," Balutel wrote on a social network.

At the same time, Balutel specified that the Presidency will examine the submitted request to withdraw the citizenship of Shor and Plahotniuc and will return with a public information on the subject.

https://www.jurnal.md/ro/news/b219588a45c77886/vladimir-plahotniuc-si-ilan-sor-ar-putea-ramane-fara-cetatenia-republicii-moldova.html

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Was curious while having a slice of pizza, "So, how significant are these oil refinery attacks?" Hit the google machine and research pile. A quick and dirty analysis below (ignore the pepperoni stains): It's (the oil refinery attacks) are now more than just a pinprick now...could become quite significant.

Good article cited below on Russian oil refineries (concentration, location, etc).  A great break for Ukraine that little tsar, Shoigu and the Ghost of General G continue to run the war. Evidently, they also know nothing about defending soft (BUT HIGHLY VULNERABLE) targets.  

Elvira is going to be further pissed if oil export income drops or if she need to raise the price of domestic gas: the gang of 3 have already made the woman quite angry since FEB 24, 2022.



Link Posted: 3/13/2024 11:08:29 PM EDT
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That's interesting. AFAIK she's always been pro Russian AF.

"In a bare chamber and less agitated than expected, Marine Le Pen, while proclaiming her support for Ukraine, accused the executive of “instrumentalizing” the crisis to “put it at the service of an agenda electoralist . “Either we are pro-Macron, or we are accused of being pro-Putin ,” said the head of the far-right deputies"

https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/live/2024/03/12/en-direct-debat-sur-le-soutien-de-la-france-a-l-ukraine-suivez-les-discussions-a-l-assemblee-nationale_6221600_823448.html

That's the screenshot with more details about her speech that's available on TG channels but I couldn't find where it comes from. My French is limited to merci and au revoir

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Supposedly Russia is now getting access to Chinas new remote-sensing satellite’s.  If they parked a satellite in geostationary orbit over Ukraine they can see what’s going on 24/7. If this is true it would explain how they have all of sudden been able to locate and hit numerous mobile targets lately. Hearing that the new satellites have a resolution of 2.5 meters. Which is good enough to see a himars or a helicopter.

Hopefully it’s not true and Russia is just using drones which can be defeated.
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