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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:58:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what’s the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000’? It’s probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda...  I was about ready to pop you in the mouth 
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:58:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: Nobody really knows the actual numbers. You definitely can't trust what the combatants are telling you. Why wouldn't they lie? "Sure we shot down 10 migs. Whatever." I don't see any evidence of disrupted Russian AF operations. Some would say the almost complete and total lack of Russian airpower (while their army shames itself in front of the world) would indicate a disrupted Russian AF. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:59:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: Gonna have to see a reliable source on that one. Source: History
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwm1150: If true there will be total resistance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwm1150: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: And so it begins...
 If true there will be total resistance. Not necessarily. Did you watch the video in that tweet? That woman, Svetlana, is terrified to leave her apartment. The Mayor of Kherson is saying they have 3 days before disaster. Those poor people are entering a living hell. They will be battered, bruised, beaten down and starved. I think all the stories about civilians being given guns is mostly in the larger cities like Kyiv and Lviv. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:59:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what’s the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000’? It’s probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda... I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:59:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tboy: I'm safe! Thanks for your concern. I jumped into a car last moment to take two families to Italy so just got back to a world I didn't leave behind. Things are finally getting real here and the locals decided to pull their heads out of the collective asses. Now they just need to learn how to fight instead of standing around, huddled closely together getting drunk at the various village checkpoints. I'm seeing some guys that have the right spirit but completely incapable of fighting an enemy. People are scared here. I will not run but put every effort to help this cause and bring down Putin. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:00:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Timeflies: Also looks staged and edited at minimum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Timeflies: Originally Posted By solid: Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: Not sure of the back story, but this is making the rounds on Ukrainian social media tonight. One of my wife's friends sent it to her. https://i.imgur.com/powYZG0.jpg In for info. Looks rough  Also looks staged and edited at minimum. Yeah, but it doesn't make the narrative any less true. The country is being bombed and shelled out of existence and civilians are running for their lives. The photo is legit enough. It's not staged propaganda. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:00:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: I heard someone on talk radio curious that the extent of the convoy outside Kiev may be a modern version of our WW2 tactics spinning up to DDay of basically setting up a fake convoy to give the impression of a larger force mobilizing. Is there any OSINT that can confirm that all the rear echelon build-up or armor in the area is actually serviceable and not just dead trucks making the line look larger? I saw this the other day and refound it -- apparently, they have some capabilities. Russian 45th Separate Engineer Regiment |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:00:16 PM EST
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Russians appear to be using some type of infantry drone system in this combat vid?
starting at 00:38 anyone know for sure? |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:00:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: Generation Kill was pretty accurate to my experience. We just weren't important enough to get commo replaced. Or body armor. Or armor at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: Originally Posted By ericoak: Originally Posted By Durka-Durka: Supply chain issues are not prone to just russians. In OIF1, my unit's radios were dropped off a boat somewhere in the Atlantic, and we went outside the wire every day for a year with motorolas for commo. We would sometimes get into arguments with the locals on them. Generation Kill made a big deal about lack of prep and supplies (although I’m sure much better than Russians). Don’t know if that was widespread or not, and obviously it was a TV show, but I read it was a closer depiction than most shows. Generation Kill was pretty accurate to my experience. We just weren't important enough to get commo replaced. Or body armor. Or armor at all. Wait... which side were you on?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:00:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: keep posting them I don't have the time to go get them myself. yet another example of "why would nato or usaf turn on ads-b out" ? trying to get the message to Russian patriots in vlads inner circle that there is a huge can of whoopass that's going to squash vlads folly like the cockroach it is about 30 minutes after the un says go. and at this rate the russian veto on unsc will be ignored. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. keep posting them I don't have the time to go get them myself. yet another example of "why would nato or usaf turn on ads-b out" ? trying to get the message to Russian patriots in vlads inner circle that there is a huge can of whoopass that's going to squash vlads folly like the cockroach it is about 30 minutes after the un says go. and at this rate the russian veto on unsc will be ignored. Yup. Just hanging out at 54,000 
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:01:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey: It's refreshing to see the CEO of an ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILE COMPANY say something like this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey: Originally Posted By Chokey:
It's refreshing to see the CEO of an ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILE COMPANY say something like this. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:01:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
He just got understands the situation. High gas prices great for electric car business. Crazy high gas prices and you have problems like loosing a supplier because crazy mob dressed like out of the road warrior movie stormed their factory and ate their workforce. Right now the long term math adds up to bad things happening. So a variable needs to be changed |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:01:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: It has different international feel to melt a plant vs lighting a nuke. They can melt a plant without getting a nuke in return. You still can't eat some mushrooms in Bavaria because of Chernobyl. That was the contents of one reactor venting to atmosphere, specifically Caesium 137. Any nuclear disaster is catastrophic. The Russians aren't crazy. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:01:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BossMaverick: Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what’s the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000’? It’s probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda... I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. It was a flat earth joke.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:01:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Generation Kill made a big deal about lack of prep and supplies (although I’m sure much better than Russians). Don’t know if that was widespread or not, and obviously it was a TV show, but I read it was a closer depiction than most shows. Accurate. They only spent a few months stockpiling supplies. If they had prepared more thoroughly it would have taken twice as long. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: ukraine doesn't need to be in nato. silly to even have this conversation right now. german chancellors have a track record of being on the continuum somewhere around "absurdly wrong" to "batshit crazy evil" for 80 years. they can all fuck off. keep sending in ammunition and volunteers and Turkish drones and let the Ukraine population sort this out. keep usaf and nato ready to go and in the sky just over the border for when un security council ok's a no fly zone. don't hold breath on that, those circle jerking do nothings might take a few weeks to decide to hold a meeting on the subject. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By rca2222: Originally Posted By hondaciv:
What a coward. Germany should be thrown out of NATO. ukraine doesn't need to be in nato. silly to even have this conversation right now. german chancellors have a track record of being on the continuum somewhere around "absurdly wrong" to "batshit crazy evil" for 80 years. they can all fuck off. keep sending in ammunition and volunteers and Turkish drones and let the Ukraine population sort this out. keep usaf and nato ready to go and in the sky just over the border for when un security council ok's a no fly zone. don't hold breath on that, those circle jerking do nothings might take a few weeks to decide to hold a meeting on the subject. If push comes to shove Germany will shrink from their NATO obligations. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rumrunner358: Power (electricity) is everything in the modern world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rumrunner358: Originally Posted By Protolith: Originally Posted By macro: What is their obsession with nuclear power plants? Is it just a matter of killing the utilities, or is there more to it? Power plants are strategic infrastructure, taking control of the plant means you can turn the lights on or off at will, it's one more step in taking over a place. Also grabbing them early can prevent them from being sabotaged by desperate people trying to make a last ditch fuck you to the invaders. It's likely as much about securing an asset as anything. If they just wanted terror, they'd bomb the plants. Thats a given, the oddly troubling part is them being more than happy to conduct fire missions on them. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: They had no business being there, especially going in blasting at site workers. Once you've taken the plunge and invaded a country, that sort of becomes force majeure |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rca2222: If push comes to shove Germany will shrink from their NATO obligations. Then we'll sanction them and crush their economy too. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:50 PM EST
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Anyone watching the Nemico live stream?
He keeps saying stuff without references. Just now he said that Starlink in Ukraine failed. Does anyone have a source for that? I'm looking and dont see anything. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:58 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: Not sure of the back story, but this is making the rounds on Ukrainian social media tonight. One of my wife's friends sent it to her. https://i.imgur.com/powYZG0.jpg Pretty sure that's the bridge pictured earlier saying it was blown up by Ukraine forces to prevent Russians from entering Kiev. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:03:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Bomb? With what fucking bombers? Virtually everything that Russia sends to Ukraine gets shot out of the air. What, like 3 Frogfeet and an Mi8 shot down today alone. Indirect fire and cruise missiles = Bomb to the general pooblic. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:04:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BossMaverick: Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what’s the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000’? It’s probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda... I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. Re-read CenterMasses reply and get back to me. There is ZERO rivalry. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:04:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Is this Ruskie operating a drone during street combat? Combat Vid starting 00:38 Yes |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:04:53 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: flood the country with anti air missiles and nothing in the air is safe. flood the country with antitank missiles and nothing on the ground is safe. flood the country with rifles and ammunition and no Russian is safe. let Ukraine take care of this, they are motivated. hope China is watching top of the line Russian shit get blown to shit by motivated volunteers and a conscript army dissolving like warm shit into the springtime Ukraine thaw. let this play out. just keep the nuclear plants from going Chernobyl. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By sulman: They do an HE variant, don't they? I haven't seen much TB-2 footage recently. it does seem to have slowed down. I am still very curious why the Russians allowed them such freedom in the first days; the TB-2 is intended for an air superiority environment, it's not stealth or anything (although Armenian Osa SAMS had trouble with it) and should be vulnerable to modern systems like 9k22 Tunguska, so why the fuck did the Russian military allow them to romp around for so long. There's plenty of stuff in their doctrine about road march security, so why didn't they follow it? flood the country with anti air missiles and nothing in the air is safe. flood the country with antitank missiles and nothing on the ground is safe. flood the country with rifles and ammunition and no Russian is safe. let Ukraine take care of this, they are motivated. hope China is watching top of the line Russian shit get blown to shit by motivated volunteers and a conscript army dissolving like warm shit into the springtime Ukraine thaw. let this play out. just keep the nuclear plants from going Chernobyl. You ain’t shooting down high altitude bombers with Manpads. You need SAMs for that. Russia would pound them all day and night if they don’t have aircraft/SAMs. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:05:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: SuperDutyMikeMc]
[#27]
Silly question I know, but given that literally every western country is dumping arms into Ukraine, why couldn't the US take a few (very careful) pot-shots via clandestine/stealth methods?
Finding something with US markings on it wouldn't be very surprising to the Russians. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:05:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnrpb: What we need Elon to do is put together blue prints for easily field manufactured flying wing drone using readily available parts/explosives which is then controlled by mysteriously available free-source autonomous software which epstein’s themselves into Russian anti air/armor. it's already ridiculously simple for all that except the self-guidance to vlad's henchmen part. flite test foamboard airframe. $1. two servos, battery pack, arduino, some code. maybe $100. 1/4lb c4 or some such, no idea what that goes for, probably free in theater right now. call it $200 in hardware. I would be shocked if this isn't already happening right now. doubt vlad's henchmen have any kind of emp or rf tools to kill off the shelf consumer electronics based drones since we've been seeing footage the 10 days from consumer gear. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:06:06 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Is this Ruskie operating a drone during street combat? Combat Vid starting 00:38 It's a video game. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:06:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Speaking of BS propaganda... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what's the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000'? It's probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda... 1.17 times the square root of the height in feet equals visible horizon, so just shy of 262 nautical miles. Math n shit. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:06:27 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Then we'll sanction them and crush their economy too. Ahh, the good guys |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:06:33 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Fake headline from Ukrainian propaganda. Minor fighting around some admin buildings is not SHELLING A RUNNING NUCLEAR REACTOR. excuse me? live tv last night. vlads henchmen are taking nuclear power plants and you say it's Ukraine propaganda? your colors are showing. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:06:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: You still can't eat some mushrooms in Bavaria because of Chernobyl. That was the contents of one reactor venting to atmosphere, specifically Caesium 137. Any nuclear disaster is catastrophic. The Russians aren't crazy. Yes, the Russians are crazy and that is well established. This whole thing is due to crazy Russians. They are destroying civilians in their homes, intentionally. They DON'T care if you can't eat mushrooms, and their other option is to feed the people in Kyev one; a big one. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:07:39 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Wait... which side were you on? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By Durka-Durka: Originally Posted By ericoak: Originally Posted By Durka-Durka: Supply chain issues are not prone to just russians. In OIF1, my unit's radios were dropped off a boat somewhere in the Atlantic, and we went outside the wire every day for a year with motorolas for commo. We would sometimes get into arguments with the locals on them. Generation Kill made a big deal about lack of prep and supplies (although I’m sure much better than Russians). Don’t know if that was widespread or not, and obviously it was a TV show, but I read it was a closer depiction than most shows. Generation Kill was pretty accurate to my experience. We just weren't important enough to get commo replaced. Or body armor. Or armor at all. Wait... which side were you on? Sometimes I wondered. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:08:04 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: You really think the Dems are going to keep you safe, sport? If the Russians were Communist the Dems would be falling over themselves justifying the invasion. Keep that in mind. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By zephyr: Tucker has just been terrible. And I love his show usually. These things happen when you’re A- a buddy of Hunter Biden B- suck Russian dick 🤷🏼♂️ You really think the Dems are going to keep you safe, sport? If the Russians were Communist the Dems would be falling over themselves justifying the invasion. Keep that in mind. Homework. You didn't do it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:09:02 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Bomb? With what fucking bombers? Virtually everything that Russia sends to Ukraine gets shot out of the air. What, like 3 Frogfeet and an Mi8 shot down today alone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Bomb? With what fucking bombers? Virtually everything that Russia sends to Ukraine gets shot out of the air. What, like 3 Frogfeet and an Mi8 shot down today alone. Those are low altitude aircraft. I think they are talking about bomber bombers.! |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:09:21 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/CA712EE3-A7E2-423D-A72B-ABA71F81C0C4_jpe-2301645.JPG |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:09:22 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: It was a flat earth joke. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By BossMaverick: Originally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. Serious question, what’s the effective visual range of a Global Hawk from 50,000’? It’s probably a question of how far the horizon is, so what is that distance? ~300 miles. Its high enough you can see the curvature of the Earth. Speaking of BS propaganda... I was about ready to pop you in the mouth Not sure what the rivalry is about, but even if the cameras are good for only 200 miles, that’s still a very effective tool for real time surveillance. It was a flat earth joke. Is flat earth really a joke, though? 
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ZWE
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:09:43 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalahnikid: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60275/Screenshot_20220304-193923_Flightradar24-2301660.JPG I know some of you don't like these screenshots but I still find it interesting. And that's the us mil i know, draw a dick on it. Must be some marins |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:09:49 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperDutyMikeMc: Silly question I know, but given that literally every western country is dumping arms into Ukraine, why couldn't the US take a few (very careful) pot-shots via clandestine/stealth methods? Finding something with US markings on it wouldn't be very surprising to the Russians. I would be surprised if SOCOM or some other American gee-wiz force wasn't in Ukraine in some capacity or other right now. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:10:06 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Yes So, when assaulting the town they used drones to target the Uk vehicles? Are those Russian or Uk vehicles burning? |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:10:56 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Then we'll sanction them and crush their economy too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By rca2222: If push comes to shove Germany will shrink from their NATO obligations. Then we'll sanction them and crush their economy too. I'd enjoy seeing that. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:11:32 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Fake headline from Ukrainian propaganda. Minor fighting around some admin buildings is not SHELLING A RUNNING NUCLEAR REACTOR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Originally Posted By racer765: vlads henchmen took the biggest nuclear plant in europe from Ukraine last night including SHELLING A RUNNING NUCLEAR PLANT. Fake headline from Ukrainian propaganda. Minor fighting around some admin buildings is not SHELLING A RUNNING NUCLEAR REACTOR. He stated that they were shelling a nuclear power plant, not shelling a nuclear reactor. Quit trying to twist people's words to create fake news yourself 
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:12:16 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: why is why it's concerning it has not been attacked yet Ya. Not surrounded. People can still bounce out the back |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:12:51 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverLightning: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverLightning: Originally Posted By Hking: The |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:13:27 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperDutyMikeMc: Silly question I know, but given that literally every western country is dumping arms into Ukraine, why couldn't the US take a few (very careful) pot-shots via clandestine/stealth methods? Finding something with US markings on it wouldn't be very surprising to the Russians. Not a silly question. It's still strange to me how wars and the rules of escalation work. You can give that dude, and that dude, (and that weird dude over there) weapons to shoot me. You can perform cyber warfare to cripple my economy. But if you shoot at me directly with those same weapons, it's WWIII. I just don't get it. I guess it's all the "plausible deniability" thing, but it's proven NATO is giving weapons to UKR. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:13:27 PM EST
[#47]
That's probably a 5.45x39 gun, super low recoil.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: ar would be a better platform for kids. less recoil, adjustable stock, lighter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/CA712EE3-A7E2-423D-A72B-ABA71F81C0C4_jpe-2301645.JPG ar would be a better platform for kids. less recoil, adjustable stock, lighter. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:13:43 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Speaking of BS propaganda... sources? Global Hawk flies at 50,000 feet. easy geometry problem. I have no experience but since it was designed as a long range ultra long duration surveillance platform and it's been in service how long? I'm inclined to believe 300 mile range for some of the sensors. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:14:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stiles1410: Yep Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stiles1410: Originally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By racer765: between star wars, the incompetence of the central command economy planners, and chernobyl, the triumvirate of Reagan/Thatcher/Pope John Paul 2 brought down the USSR. vlad wants to hold us all hostage to another chernobyl and let us tremble at the thought of having to clean it up on our dime. fuck that. time for some shit that doesn't exist to do some shit that didn't happen and end this right the fuck now. It's clear they're crumbling against Ukraine and the west's weakness just emboldens Putin. It would send a strong message to China too. Yep I agree times infinity. NATO heads is nothing but a bunch of fucking pussies. Putin made a threat of using nukes and they are scared shitless. Now next time Putin wants to invade, all he has to do is make a threat of nukes and the heads of NATO will ficking bitch up again. Puton needs to be called on his bluff or he will just threat with nukes again being it seemed to work for Ukraine. Send in F35's for CAP while A10's and AH64's handle the armor. Make sure not a single Eussian on the Ukraine side of the border is living. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:14:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperDutyMikeMc: Silly question I know, but given that literally every western country is dumping arms into Ukraine, why couldn't the US take a few (very careful) pot-shots via clandestine/stealth methods? Finding something with US markings on it wouldn't be very surprising to the Russians. Awful bold of you to assume they're not already doing that. 
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