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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:09:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: considering that normal applications take many years, and the EU bureaucracy moves slower than the US Army bureaucracy, so, even expedited to occur within a month? nope that's not a bet I would take. They could be speaking russian in the Ukraine before the 1st secretary of the under assistant deputy even rubber stamps it. oh wait, they're already speaking russian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By AROKIE: wrong. "European Union Commissioner Maros Sefcovic said Friday that he wants Ukraine to become an EU member "as soon as possible," according to Reuters." Bet you the cost of a bronze ARFCOM membership that in one month Ukraine is not in the EU Deal? considering that normal applications take many years, and the EU bureaucracy moves slower than the US Army bureaucracy, so, even expedited to occur within a month? nope that's not a bet I would take. They could be speaking russian in the Ukraine before the 1st secretary of the under assistant deputy even rubber stamps it. oh wait, they're already speaking russian. But you were the other one to say I was wrong. More willing to wager with someone that has been a member more than a few months, but thatnks or telling me youre out 
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:09:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv:
i wonder how many cargo planes the early-on German shipment of 5000 helmets was ... egg on their face. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:13:22 AM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:14:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SolidState]
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Reported a couple times that ukraine retook Hostomel
Dead russians/equipment Hostomel. Believe this was from yeaterday (video)
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Glory to the VDV  VDV song (Updated) |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:17:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: So...I keep skipping ahead 20+ pages, depending on what the fuck has been happening in my life and on the power grid around me. I miss a lot. Plus, I've never been the brightest crayon in the box to begin with. But, I have a question. Mostly for everyone yelling DRILL! DRILL! DRILL!!11!!111!!! Why WOULDN'T we keep buying Russian oil? And Iranian? And Venezuelan? And North Korean, if they had any? It SEEMS like, on the surface, a viable strategy. Buy theirs, sanction them so they can't actually spend the money on anything useful, and keep ours ready to extract when we need it? You keep yours, take theirs, and lose nothing in the end... ...except for the common man, like myself, who has watched my gas go up $0.30/gallon+ in the last two days. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, I'm paying more than I was before. But, my country's oil is sitting right where it was, under my feet, and my enemy's is in my gas tank instead of fueling their war machine, because no one is selling them anything. Except maybe China. Isn't that basically the same as sending aid across a pond? We can go get ours as soon as our enemy shuts off the valve. In the meantime, they lose, we lose less. Not ideal for our economy,, but far from the end of the world. I know I'll get shouted down about this, and we need to DRILLLLL!!11!!!ll Explain why I'm wrong so I can go sit in the corner and be quiet. I'll take a stab at answering your question of: Why WOULDN'T we keep buying Russian oil? Answer: Because Russia invaded a peaceful country and is now committing war crimes and atrocities such as murder of civilians and rape. So buying their oil funds their war and atrocities and only a moral degenerate would do that. So, who is our president???? |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:18:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:19:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: looked I saw some maneuver footage from the Russian side a couple of weeks ago, and they looked like bog-standard T-72Bs, I was very surprised, it was like watching 80s news footage from East Germany. No ERA, nothing. They were straight out a time machine. The only thing missing were the painted road wheels. Syria did okay with these, using what I think was Soviet doctrine. They took a lot of losses from RPG-29s (famously) but in the cities using them as siege artillery seemed to work well, even unsupported. They sent in platoons of them (unsupported!!) and they would blast suspected strongpoints, with infantry following up in BMPs. The FSA (or Jihadis dependent on your point of view) couldn't soak up the losses over time. That's the soviet way. The cost in tanks didn't matter. Again I"m still not convinced he (FVP) is still operating within a rational paradigm. The soviet throw bodys at it until they are out of cartrdges and you just bury them with numbers is not going to work, because you haven't got those kinds of sheer massive numbers to spare like you did 80 years ago. Russia is like the guy who's trying out horses for steeplechase by shooting the horses who fail. Russia is out of horses to shoot.That sort of warfare is the domain of the Chinese, now, if if anyone. China/Asia/India. They have the kind of cheap bodies to make this sort of op work by mass. Russia....doesn't. Any longer. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:22:08 AM EDT
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About to hop the flight to Warsaw:
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:22:56 AM EDT
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🇷🇺⚡️Paypal suspended services in Russia
🇷🇺⚡️Twitch stopped issuing payouts in Russia |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:26:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: About to hop the flight to Warsaw: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/CB8EE366-F981-422F-87B2-C4AFC3FD8E02-2301947.jpg be careful |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:30:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: My God, man, that's almost three member's stashes Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: How many Arfcomers would it take to get 1 million rounds of 7n6 gathered up to send? My God, man, that's almost three member's stashes I almost took this seriously until I realized there was no video of someone dramatically removing their spectacles. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:31:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
 just trying to catch up Holy Shit
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:32:18 AM EDT
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A person was arrested Monday after showing up at the Ukraine Embassy 'with weapons wanting to fight,' law enforcement sources told FOX5DC
Secret Service officers also took two men into custody from a car in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood Thursday and removed what seemed to be an assault-style rifle and body armor from the vehicle They were arrested on various charges including possession of a prohibited weapon and carrying a dangerous weapon A witness claims the two men were handcuffed and separated before being placed in custody The suspects, whose identities remain unknown, have been taken to the Metropolitan Police Department's second district precinct for processing They had been traveling in a black four-door Ford sedan with Indiana plates that said Marine Corps Veteran https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10576141/Third-person-taken-custody-Secret-Service-showing-Ukraine-Embassy-weapons.html |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:32:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: About to hop the flight to Warsaw: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/CB8EE366-F981-422F-87B2-C4AFC3FD8E02-2301947.jpg Luck! Doing Gods work, we're all behind you! |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:34:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: About to hop the flight to Warsaw: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/CB8EE366-F981-422F-87B2-C4AFC3FD8E02-2301947.jpg |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:36:02 AM EDT
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He was talking about a ceasefire in limited areas. Sounds like Russia wants to purge some people quickly out of the area.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: It's also really weird. 5.45 or 7.62 fire would punch all of the way through that little shitty can. I know because I've shot real USA steel cars with both rounds and they always made it into the passenger compartment from almost every angle. They 100% should be dead if someone was actually shooting at the car. LC43M2AP will go all the way through a 3' thick red oak tree, out the other side, break a thick chunk of riprap limestone in half, and dig an 18" deep fist size hole in the dirt and not even dull the tip of the penetrator. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:37:16 AM EDT
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I have a Sucrets tin full, still needle sharp.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:47:29 AM EDT
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Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:50:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: A person was arrested Monday after showing up at the Ukraine Embassy 'with weapons wanting to fight,' law enforcement sources told FOX5DC Secret Service officers also took two men into custody from a car in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood Thursday and removed what seemed to be an assault-style rifle and body armor from the vehicle They were arrested on various charges including possession of a prohibited weapon and carrying a dangerous weapon A witness claims the two men were handcuffed and separated before being placed in custody The suspects, whose identities remain unknown, have been taken to the Metropolitan Police Department's second district precinct for processing They had been traveling in a black four-door Ford sedan with Indiana plates that said Marine Corps Veteran https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10576141/Third-person-taken-custody-Secret-Service-showing-Ukraine-Embassy-weapons.html people that stupid with weapons deserve to lose their 2a rights for life. bad press for the rest of us at this point. seriously. you can't just make a bad left turn in Indiana and end up in DC. firearms laws suck ass it's a patchwork of bullshit and constitutional carry but you can't just drive into dc with a weapon and not have done some reading up on it and found out what the laws are. if I hear any friends/family/acquaintances talking about this kind of stupidity I would do my best to convince them it's a really bad idea. I think it is possible for a civilian from out of state to get a dc weapons permit but iirc it's for concealed carry only and for pistols not rifles and it's a ridiculous process. i had to make a uhaul run with relatives belongings and spent a few hours reading up on it, concluded ok to virginia but before entering dc I unstrapped and left everything at a secured ron location before driving into the cesspool. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:51:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 How do you shoot helicopters?!?!? Give em more lead 
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:55:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022  |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:59:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Guess he isnt as sure as he is telling someone they're wrong. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By Bushamster21: Quoting for posterity. Guess he isnt as sure as he is telling someone they're wrong. UHH I Am sure of it, it takes longer than a month, but with the expedited process that i am not familiar with who knows |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:59:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 Took a stinger right to its face. You can see the missile come from the right bottom corner. Too low and devastating for the pilot to do anything but crash. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:01:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:02:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tango_6: It's the new ammo prices, they will never go back down that is the rule once it goes up that is the new normal and will only go up from there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tango_6: Originally Posted By Cav-Gunner: Originally Posted By mcnizzle: Originally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By Chokey:
 Considering between 9-12 billions rounds are manufactured each year, 1 million is not a lot. Sooooo ammo shortage is over? We're just still in the "we're going to overprice stage?" It's the new ammo prices, they will never go back down that is the rule once it goes up that is the new normal and will only go up from there. Cutting boards, both wood and plastic, are up~300% from two years ago. Excuse me, I meant to say, dollars can buy 33% of what they could two years ago in cutting boards. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:03:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 Splash 1 |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:05:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: UHH I Am sure of it, it takes longer than a month, but with the expedited process that i am not familiar with who knows Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By Bushamster21: Quoting for posterity. Guess he isnt as sure as he is telling someone they're wrong. UHH I Am sure of it, it takes longer than a month, but with the expedited process that i am not familiar with who knows Theyre more likely to be NATO before being accepted into the EU, expedited or not. You said wrong. If you have some tech to back up them actually getting into the EU but not NATO even though they wanted to be NATO months ago, Im all ears. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:05:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:08:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:11:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:13:12 AM EDT
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The Russian army continues to arm our territorial defense
Thank you for the next trophy https://t.me/dvish_alive/9002  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:14:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs:
The Germans sent them literally East German SA-7's. I'm not surprised they are rusty junk. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:17:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shoulders90]
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I read yesterday that Putin is said to be seriously ill. Don't know either true or false information
But Kiev streets looking so far peaceful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAIYTxhQh4 |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:20:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 Woah thats nice Like the other vid they dont seem to see them comming. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 I thought stingers don't have a smoke trail? Hope its real, but looks kinda fake. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:24:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: The Germans sent them literally East German SA-7's. I'm not surprised they are rusty junk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By Schmigs:
The Germans sent them literally East German SA-7's. I'm not surprised they are rusty junk. Yeah old eastern blok commie stuff. NL did however ship at least 200 Stingers out to Ukriane in the early stages. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:25:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: I thought stingers don't have a smoke trail? Hope its real, but looks kinda fake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 I thought stingers don't have a smoke trail? Hope its real, but looks kinda fake. Looks consistent with this video:  How To Fire A Stinger Missile • FIM-92 Stinger In Action |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:31:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZMV: Looks consistent with this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0nuhI05QyAyep, I wonder how many helis they have, this is going to be very costly. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: The Russian army continues to arm our territorial defense Thank you for the next trophy https://t.me/dvish_alive/9002 Attached File Attached Fileonce again, dem chinese tires. are they under warranty? do you think Putin is a little pissed about the tires from Xi not holding up, er, not holding air? they're sure costing Putin a lot of machinery, lots. ETA: these guys look like they're just a bunch of good ol' boys going out duck hunting. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:35:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: Originally Posted By ecophon: Hi guys. I'm sure it's in the thread somewhere already, but what's the best way to donate some £££ to the Ukr? The only other thing I could send from the UK is blunt butter knives and I imagine they have enough of them. Cheers  https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi Many thanks
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:37:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 thats one of the best shoot down videos ive ever seen |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:44:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: thats one of the best shoot down videos ive ever seen Recorder on a tripod, and remote panning so they must have ambushed it. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:46:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H4ppyB34r: @Tboy I take offense to this response, much like your continued criticism of everyday Ukrainians living their life. I was born about 30 minutes from where you are, and I have several cousins and my half brother in the territorial defense teams in Lviv and 2 of the smaller towns. I have at 8 people in your area that are Ukrainian, and are plugged into a larger network of peoole. I have people on the ground that can help, amd I am raising funds here, as well as having already sent a large shipping container of medical/humanitarian stuff last week, on the second day of the war, that should be arriving today or tomorrow. I have reached out to you via email and PM, but since you're not sure about help, I'll take it somewhere else. Sometimes the hubris in this place is ridiculous I understand how folks can take offense at my taking offense with each other. (Just because I say something that offends does not mean it's not true so if you want to take this offline so you can tell me what I say isn't true, feel free) I appreciate your assistance at this time but I'm still trying to wrap my head around what's going on and how to help others since the group I've attached to are still trying to get a firm actionable plan in order. It's great that you can help your home village with the needed material but I'm trying to work with people to get supplies out to other areas that are in more desperate need. So, if you have hundreds of tourniquets, I'll drive to the village to pick them up so I can get them to the front lines where they're desperately needed. I'm dealing with things on the ground, surrounded by many people freaking out, not knowing what to do, after repeatedly ignoring my advice and pleas this past month. They now are acknowledging what's going on but still don't have the proper tools or mindset that's needed. I'm not dealing with an extended family (like you) but encountering many various Ukrainians with different lifestyles and viewpoints so I'm finding I have a better sample pool to make my observations & conclusions. I'm sorry I offend you as a Ukrainian but I'm not holding back any punches when telling my observations on the ground and relaying information I'm being told by locals & fellow expats. I'm glad you had the foresight to prepare resources to help your family and community so hope that you can continue to do this for them. I want to be clear that I have not asked nor will I ever ask for anything for myself on this forum. I do not want your pity or charity but I do want help for others here that are suffering. I put myself into this situation MANY TIMES. I left the country 3 times since December and have returned each time, trying to prepare the people and help as needed. I just had to turn away a local man that wants to flee with his wife and was telling me how serious the situation is, especially now that he has had others move in with him and he has no job. So let's be clear for everyone to understand the mentality and mindset here in Ukraine. It will offend many Ukrainians or descendants of Ukrainians but it is what it is. Months, weeks, days, and even hours before the attacks the world WARNED Ukraine repeatedly that there will be an invasion. The vast majority of Ukrainians in my area ignored this, wishfully thinking that this wouldn't happen and if it did it wouldn't be big or happen far away from them. Then the actual date is announced and they create a national holiday of UNITY. Seriously. Going around singing Ukrainian songs while waving flag - not preparing for war. Then the day of the attacks, folks went about their daily lives, going to work, trying to keep up a fake façade that everything will be ok. It wasn't. Still no signs of reinforcing the city, guarding key strategic centers/buildings, or bringing soldiers in. I did see more police patrolling, some equipped with sticks. I went to the gas station weeks before to top off and was buying supplies before the attack and locals were giving me weird looks (I think the cashier was making fun of me). So Saturday I wake up to another siren with more people fleeing here from the East & West and then moving forward. (By the way, lodging prices have skyrocketed due to the profiteers) I decided to reach out and ask the female friends if they needed help but they refused. So I reached out to my personal trainer (former military) and went over his action plans that I've been BEATING into his head the past month. He thought he had a plan (one being me buying him a shotgun at my own expense) but still didn't know what to do with his family because his wife refused to leave. He was wishfully thinking he could drive his car to the border, sell it, and then have resources to send her to Italy. The only way to get his kids to safety was to send his wife with them and the only way to do this was for me to drive them to Italy (at which time I was told her alcoholic friend/small child would be going with us.) so we became a clown car of refugees. This decision was made in matters of moments so that's why I disappeared for a few days. Keep up with me while I continue to tell my story of love and frustration with these amazingly flawed people that think Americans are their saviors. I am critical of these people because I care very dearly for them and refuse to leave them behind. But I also want others to know what kind of backward mindset one deals with here. The local friends are now looking at me, agreeing with me, but I'm not doing the "I told you so" but instead saying, "How can I help?", "Are you OK?", giving them pep speeches, encouragement, and smiling at the stressed out and scared guys/soldiers telling them that they're doing a good job. As we are leaving Saturday afternoon, I'm starting to see makeshift roadblocks being constructed on the edges of Lviv so I start driving down into the Carpathians, passing villages that are constructing makeshift barriers/bunkers guarded by men huddled together with no weapons (Ukrainian friend that's a Canadian citizen that returned to marry a Ukrainian was laughing how he had to explain to his stepsons why all the men are huddled together - do drink). Once we get to Skole on this small two lane road, the road becomes a stopped traffic jam ALL THE WAY TO THE BORDER. Something that I've never seen before (vast majority of cars driven by military age men). Gas stations were empty with cars parked outside, hoping to get gas the next day, but I eventually made it to the border early Sunday morning where I had to wait another 14 hours in a car full of 5 Ukrainians. Once we got into Hungary, we continued to drive into Budapest where I stopped for an extra day, trying to boost their spirits, give them needed rest, and pretend we were on a fun vacation. I did the final push to Brescia to discover the house we were going to was a tiny apartment already lived in by the alcoholic friend's adult daughter & elderly mother (I keep calling her an alcoholic because I know she doesn't have much money but kept buying beer on our trip and then tried to shove bottles of wine down my throat). The trainer's wife was still in shock, refusing to take charge, telling me how I need to be the "captain", saying that I was her new husband. She kept telling me that she wanted to go home and was convinced this would only last a few days. She offered to give me money but I refused because I know that was the money I previously gave her husband to help with this foreseen situation. She didn't want me to tell her husband how dire the living situation was but I refused and immediately reached out to him to let him know. The next day before I left, the women laughed about the situation, showing everyone packed in a tiny room, sleeping together. That just isn't sustainable for the teenage daughter so I tried to find resources and refused to leave them until I was guaranteed that they'd be ok. So I return to Lviv early Friday morning. to a city I didn't leave behind. There is now mass paranoia going around with many of the local males "guarding" their apartment complexes (unarmed) while I'm finally seeing soldiers in the city, buildings being restricted, barricades put in place, no pictures allowed, and alcohol sales banned. They are in fear of Russian infiltrators so putting on armbands and changing orders at the roadblocks to catch people like me. My personal trainer was an emotional and physical wreck last night so he was trying to update me on the mood. The locals aren't happy being invaded by all the men from Central & Eastern Ukraine who were going around getting drunk and causing problems, therefore resulting in alcohol ban (I'm just relaying what he said so it could also have been drunk locals because Ukraine being Ukraine). He also said there was a push by locals trying to get the government to round up these outsiders to send them back to their areas to fight. Again, just repeating what he was saying so I'm not sure if how much his opinion is shared by others here. While this is going on, I've been trying to get my wife from Kiev this past month, offering her and her best friend a place to stay in Lviv or send them to Georgia for safety because I know her mental and physical health is extremely fragile. Instead she refuses to leave, after countless requests. so I finally tell her that I will hold her boyfriend 100% accountable for her safety. Then once the bombs drop, I beg with her again, while she's standing outside the bomb shelter. She still refuses so I finally have to ask the question that I already know the answer. Her boyfriend refuses to join the defense forces and fight but instead prefers to hide in the apartment with two terrified women. I said "not good" when I wanted to let her know that he's a selfish coward but I knew that would upset her more. I love her unconditionally and promised that I will never leave Ukraine without knowing her safety is guaranteed. I keep in touch with her daily but yesterday was a very bad day for her and her deep depression kicked in so I'm not sure how long this will last. I keep sending daily uplifting affirmations, saying it's going to be ok, but I don't know how much longer she can manage until she has a complete mental breakdown (undiagnosed BPD) and her health fails to the point of no return. So, yes, I'm upset and frustrated with Ukrainians and their backward mindset. Thankfully I see a silver lining in the next generation that don't appear to think like the older generations. On a side note, it looks like I'll be hosting some fleeing Indians trying to get out of Kiev and into Poland. Also a fun saying locals like to say. We say "You can take the girl out of Ukraine but you can't take the Ukrainian out of the girl" The city people have that saying about the local villagers which is an odd mindset of its own. They laugh and put them down so are surprised when I say that's not always the case in the US. TLDR version - Ukrainians can be very frustrating people to deal with, many with the mindset of children, needing their hands held. Those that love them try to help while many say "Screw it" and walk away. I'm not going anywhere and will be here to help the locals survive and pick up the pieces when this war is over and Americans have moved to our next daily soundbite since we have little to no attention span. Yes, I am critical. Yes, I have explained in detail how I come up with my conclusions so if you want to debate on specific items, we can have a chat at a different time/place. If you're offended, you might want to look into the reason why and ask yourself questions why "Ukraine is weak". Until then, I'm very encouraged that the Ukrainians have the right leadership in place and a highly motivated military that will fight for survival. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:48:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Woah, this video. Helicopter getting shot down. — ??????????? ???????/Ukraine (@i_army_org) March 5, 2022 I see many of the Helios following the convoys meeting the same fait. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: U24.ua Spoken Ukrainian only, not subtitles. They showed a lot of destruction in civilian areas that I haven't seen here yet today. Tell your wife to turn off the TV. Constantly watching will destroy her, especially with guilt and helplessness. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:50:29 AM EDT
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Don't know if Putin likes to read. I recommend the poem L'expiation by Victor Hugo, written after Napoléon's retreat after Moscow.
Lui se sentit soudain dans l’âme épouvanté. Stupéfait du désastre et ne sachant que croire, L’empereur se tourna vers Dieu ; l’homme de gloire Trembla ; Napoléon comprit qu’il expiait Quelque chose peut-être, et, livide, inquiet, Devant ses légions sur la neige semées : « Est-ce le châtiment, dit-il. Dieu des armées ? » Alors il s’entendit appeler par son nom Et quelqu’un qui parlait dans l’ombre lui dit : Non. He sensed fear suddenly in his soul. Stunned by the disaster, not knowing what to believe, The Emperor turned to God; the man of glory Trembled; Napoléon understood that he had atoned Something perhaps, and, livid, anxious, In front of his legions on the snow plagued with difficulties: “Is this the punishment”, he said, “God of the armies?” Then he heard his name called And someone who spoke from the shadows said to him: “No”. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:54:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/CA712EE3-A7E2-423D-A72B-ABA71F81C0C4_jpe-2301645.JPG Holding and shooting are two different things. Especially effectively. It's a good PR picture but the mask is over the top. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:56:59 AM EDT
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A post from Telegram. Apparently listing things they need? I'm not 100% sure.
The Armed Forces unit needs help! 1. PC (laptop) - 3 sets (printer included) 2. Flash drives - 5 units 3. Extension cords (3m, 5m, 10m) - 10 units 4. A4 paper - 10 packages 5. Means of communication (radio stations) - 20 units 6. Electric (diesel) generators (3-5 kilowatts) - 4 units 7. Capacity for drinking water (20 l, 30 l, 40 l) - 20 units 8. Chainsaws - 4 units 9. Rechargeable table lamps - 25 units 10. Pocket rechargeable lanterns - 50 units 11. Body armor - 150 units 12. Kevlar helmets - 150 units 13. Overalls are working - 30 sets 14. Tactical gloves - 150 pairs 15. Working gloves - 150 pairs 16. Tactical points - 150 units 17. Welding machine (electric) - 2 sets 18. Individual first aid kits - 150 units 19. Tonometers - 2 units 20. Electric cable - 150 meters 21. Field tent for accommodation of personnel - 10 units 22. Fire extinguisher (5 l, 10 l) - 20 units 23. Minesweeper (preferably American-made) - 1 unit https://t.me/nkplus_ua/12402 |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 6:00:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: A post from Telegram. Apparently listing things they need? I'm not 100% sure. The Armed Forces unit needs help! 1. PC (laptop) - 3 sets (printer included) 2. Flash drives - 5 units 3. Extension cords (3m, 5m, 10m) - 10 units 4. A4 paper - 10 packages 5. Means of communication (radio stations) - 20 units 6. Electric (diesel) generators (3-5 kilowatts) - 4 units 7. Capacity for drinking water (20 l, 30 l, 40 l) - 20 units 8. Chainsaws - 4 units 9. Rechargeable table lamps - 25 units 10. Pocket rechargeable lanterns - 50 units 11. Body armor - 150 units 12. Kevlar helmets - 150 units 13. Overalls are working - 30 sets 14. Tactical gloves - 150 pairs 15. Working gloves - 150 pairs 16. Tactical points - 150 units 17. Welding machine (electric) - 2 sets 18. Individual first aid kits - 150 units 19. Tonometers - 2 units 20. Electric cable - 150 meters 21. Field tent for accommodation of personnel - 10 units 22. Fire extinguisher (5 l, 10 l) - 20 units 23. Minesweeper (preferably American-made) - 1 unit https://t.me/nkplus_ua/12402 Tell me how many people you are supplying without telling me how many people youre supplying. 150 of everything is a big give away of a rear echelon group trying to resupply. OPSEC come on! |
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