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Posted: 3/1/2022 3:50:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:16:24 PM EDT
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The more recent pictures seems to show newer equipment.
Did they just use the old to get rid of it first? |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:23:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:35:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure you understand this, but the collection of photos in this thread have almost no correlation to actual losses, one way or the other. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 8:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ROFL, this is GD. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure you understand this, but the collection of photos in this thread have almost no correlation to actual losses, one way or the other. Actually, what photos end up in the thread depend entirely upon the search engine and web search skills of the poster. 
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Posted: 3/1/2022 8:43:43 PM EDT
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Caption: Debris from wreckage of an SU-34 aircraft, Kharkiv. 11:44 AM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 8:45:58 PM EDT
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Caption: This Russian T-72B tank in Kupiansk, Kharkiv Oblast was apparently abandoned/captured today. 7:42 AM · Feb 26, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:01:03 PM EDT
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Caption: The Ukrainian Army just captured a fully loaded Russian TOS-1A Thermobaric MRL. 10:32 AM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:10:13 PM EDT
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Caption: Kharkiv: A Russian 9N210/9N235 submunition made in 2019 which failed to explode.
Despite the 9N210 & 9N235 submunitions being externally identical, this is likely to be 9N235 with a 9E272 fuze, since it was Smerch that was widely used in recent shelling of the city. 2:56 AM · Mar 1, 2022·  |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes and I'm certain its delivery is performing as intended to demoralize the Russians Either confiscate their troops cell phones, and take hits in the modern information war. Or let them keep the phones, and take higher casualties from the West collecting real-time location data. And passing it on to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:13:58 PM EDT
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Caption: Satellite imagery of Feb. 28 show at least 63 helicopters deployed at V.D. Bolshoy Bokov airfield near Mazyr in Belarus, which is around 40km from the border with Ukraine. The field hospital was spotted a week ago already. 5:47 AM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:20:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryRussia. Vehicle recovery. Do they even? |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:25:33 PM EDT
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Caption: Two pretty rare Russian vehicles were abandoned in Sumy; a BTR-MDM Airborne APC and 1V119 artillery battalion fire direction vehicle. 5:17 PM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia. Vehicle recovery. Do they even? Quote HistoryQuoted: Vehicle recovery. Do they even? I thought that too. They must have something like our M88 Tank Recovery vehicles. Even another tank can tow a tank. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:32:01 PM EDT
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Caption: Two more T-723BM (One damaged, one destroyed) lost by Russian forces recently, as well as a MP-2IM signals vehicle. 4:10 PM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:50:45 PM EDT
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Caption: The Russian army lost further armour in Sumy; 2x T-72B3 (One of which was later blown up) 3:03 PM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:53:52 PM EDT
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Caption: The Ukrainian Territorial Defence Forces took out two more Russian supply trucks; again likely to be in Sumy. 2:46 PM · Mar 1, 2022
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:02:45 PM EDT
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Caption: Kharkiv downtown today… 9:56 AM · Mar 1, 2022
 Caption: Today. 20 km from Kyiv downtown. Many dead soldiers from Kemerovo. 4:09 PM · Mar 1, 2022  Graphic Click To View Spoiler Graphic Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:15:54 PM EDT
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Caption: Kharkiv today...8:22 AM · Mar 1, 2022
 Graphic Click To View Spoiler Caption: Ukrainians are taping looters all around the country to lamp posts and telephone poles using rope and tape. 9:57 AM · Mar 1, 2022 
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:22:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:23:18 PM EDT
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Why are the Russians not destroying their abandoned equipment? Or booby trapping them? I know they're most likely broken down and non operational but wouldn't it be in their best interest to render them permanently inoperable? Apparently since their not destroying them it indicates there is no "sensitive" technology on them. If there was, for sure we would be low key getting a hold of a few.
Or maybe they did destroy them internally and we just can't see the destruction from the images? |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are the Russians not destroying their abandoned equipment? Or booby trapping them? I know they're most likely broken down and non operational but wouldn't it be in their best interest to render them permanently inoperable? Apparently since their not destroying them it indicates there is no "sensitive" technology on them. If there was, for sure we would be low key getting a hold of a few. Or maybe they did destroy them internally and we just can't see the destruction from the images? Apparently they are leaving them operational, in many cases. Just look at this lol. Probably end up on a Ukrainian used car lot. "It's a peach...the previous owner hardly drove it"  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:40:41 PM EDT
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Russians point weapons at people
 ???????? ???????? ? ????? Ukrainians ready to welcome Russians  ???????? ?????? ???????? ????? ?? ??????. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:48:41 PM EDT
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 ???????? ????? ????? - ?????! ??? ?????! "Everyone was killed! Corpses are not taken away"  Всіх вбили, а трупи не забирають "Occupiers and murderers": in Melitopol, locals stopped the Russian column  "???????? ? ??????": ? ?????????? ??????? ???????? ????????? ??????  ????????? ????????? ??????? "??????" Kyiv TV Tower Hit By Deadly Russian Airstrike  Kyiv TV Tower Hit By Deadly Russian Airstrike |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:56:18 PM EDT
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Caption: Russian attack helicopters Mi-24 prepare for mission
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Posted: 3/1/2022 11:01:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2022 11:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Caption: Kharkiv today...8:22 AM Mar 1, 2022 https://i.postimg.cc/hvDwwJVN/FMx-T1-UEX0-AAyn-YN.jpg Graphic Click To View Spoiler Caption: Ukrainians are taping looters all around the country to lamp posts and telephone poles using rope and tape. 9:57 AM Mar 1, 2022 https://i.postimg.cc/3RSC8WPs/FMxpfo-BXo-AQpjz-L.jpg |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 11:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The BRDM-2 in the next to last picture is a NBC unit. I don't doubt you're right, but how can you tell? |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 12:29:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't doubt you're right, but how can you tell?  Soviet BRDM-2 Armoured Car No 485 at War & Peace Revival |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:25:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those extensions on the rear are where the marker flags go.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IjFZKoQWMQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't doubt you're right, but how can you tell? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IjFZKoQWMExcellent, very good info. So many different variants. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:33:30 AM EDT
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Caption: The Russian Army lost more vehicles in Bashtanka yesterday, including a BTR-80 and 3 supply trucks. 7:53 AM · Mar 2, 2022
  
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:40:25 AM EDT
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Caption: This member of the Territorial Defence Forces seems to have captured himself a MP-443 Grach handgun from Russian forces. 6:36 AM · Mar 2, 2022
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:42:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The more recent pictures seems to show newer equipment. Did they just use the old to get rid of it first? No all russian equipment is old and soldiers are b team  I been seeing some harder more modern equipped soldiers recently now as well. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:43:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent, very good info. So many different variants. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:54:18 AM EDT
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Caption: Days ago, possibly in the vicinity of Kyiv (Although location is unconfirmed), Russian Rosgvardia forces lost a Avtozaks (Prisoner Transport Bus) and a supply vehicle when they came under fire. 6:05 AM · Mar 2, 2022
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Posted: 3/2/2022 10:58:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No all russian equipment is old and soldiers are b team I been seeing some harder more modern equipped soldiers recently now as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The more recent pictures seems to show newer equipment. Did they just use the old to get rid of it first? No all russian equipment is old and soldiers are b team I been seeing some harder more modern equipped soldiers recently now as well. Also bear in mind LNR and DNR are fighting with the Russian forces and are more like militia with tanks. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:00:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like armor and trucks are not very safe places to be. You are most likely getting a distorted perspective due to the sampling bias inherent in war photography. Destroyed or abandoned vehicles make for interesting yet “G-rated” pictures. The latter may be important to a professional photographer looking to sell their work to media outlets. Vehicles are harder to evacuate than human casualties and easy for photographers to find after the battle. During and after WWII it was often claimed that crewing a tank was more hazardous than infantry duty because they draw fire. My own infantryman grandfather believed this. Actual casualty figures from the ETO show that US Army infantry were killed at about six times the rate of tankers. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:09:24 AM EDT
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Caption: : A "Varta" armored personnel carrier was abandoned by the Ukrainian army in Volnovakha and then captured by the LNR forces (Russian allies). Pretty interesting photos, showing vehicle's internals and its overall good condition.
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:11:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Caption: : A "Varta" armored personnel carrier was abandoned by the Ukrainian army in Volnovakha and then captured by the LNR forces (Russian allies). Pretty interesting photos, showing vehicle's internals and its overall good condition. 7:00 AM · Mar 2, 2022 https://i.postimg.cc/Gtq1Vzsf/FM2-Kr-BYXw-AIxtx.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/j5tmTPKY/FM2-Krm-CWYAYo-PAB.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cHF9NzXf/FM2-Ksa-KWYAE7s-Cc.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1XgH13gZ/FM2-Kut-TWQAAM1-Kb.jpg I want one |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:15:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are most likely getting a distorted perspective due to the sampling bias inherent in war photography. Destroyed or abandoned vehicles make for interesting yet “G-rated” pictures. The latter may be important to a professional photographer looking to sell their work to media outlets. Vehicles are harder to evacuate than human casualties and easy for photographers to find after the battle. During and after WWII it was often claimed that crewing a tank was more hazardous than infantry duty because they draw fire. My own infantryman grandfather believed this. Actual casualty figures from the ETO show that US Army infantry were killed at about six times the rate of tankers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like armor and trucks are not very safe places to be. You are most likely getting a distorted perspective due to the sampling bias inherent in war photography. Destroyed or abandoned vehicles make for interesting yet “G-rated” pictures. The latter may be important to a professional photographer looking to sell their work to media outlets. Vehicles are harder to evacuate than human casualties and easy for photographers to find after the battle. During and after WWII it was often claimed that crewing a tank was more hazardous than infantry duty because they draw fire. My own infantryman grandfather believed this. Actual casualty figures from the ETO show that US Army infantry were killed at about six times the rate of tankers. You have to admit, though, that if you are dealing with infantry armed with large quantities of high tech AT missiles that defeat any existing armor including ERA, and roving drones capable of destroying armor, the modern tank would seem somewhat obsolete. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:25:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have to admit, though, that if you are dealing with infantry armed with large quantities of high tech AT missiles that defeat any existing armor including ERA, and roving drones capable of destroying armor, the modern tank is somewhat obsolete. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like armor and trucks are not very safe places to be. You are most likely getting a distorted perspective due to the sampling bias inherent in war photography. Destroyed or abandoned vehicles make for interesting yet “G-rated” pictures. The latter may be important to a professional photographer looking to sell their work to media outlets. Vehicles are harder to evacuate than human casualties and easy for photographers to find after the battle. During and after WWII it was often claimed that crewing a tank was more hazardous than infantry duty because they draw fire. My own infantryman grandfather believed this. Actual casualty figures from the ETO show that US Army infantry were killed at about six times the rate of tankers. You have to admit, though, that if you are dealing with infantry armed with large quantities of high tech AT missiles that defeat any existing armor including ERA, and roving drones capable of destroying armor, the modern tank is somewhat obsolete. Maybe, maybe not. In the opening days of the Yom Kippur War reckless, overly confident Israeli tankers took many losses from Egyptian infantry who were lavishly equipped with RPG-7s and AT-3 Sagger missiles. Some observers proclaimed that these weapons had made the tank obsolete. But the Israelis adapted to the threat and the tank remained very much relevant. Infantry anti-armor weapons are nothing new. War is not forgiving of carelessness. It remains to be seen whether the latest generation of anti-armor weapons are true game changers or just another step in the endless game of action and counter-action. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Caption: The Russian armies established full control over the Ukrainian city Melitopol within special military operation. https://i.postimg.cc/sDWXMtWM/1775271517-0-190-3071-1917-1920x0-80-0-0-8fe0c05706134a1c08b803cfa0907241.jpg Caption: ????????? ???????. ?????? ????? https://i.postimg.cc/h4sFpMq2/772cfed441def11c05d4dc853e62e717.jpg Caption: ??????????? ??????????????, ???????????? ????? ???????? ??????? (Running this through translation I believe these Russian soldiers are standing by the sign for the village of Staroignatyevka in Eastern Ukraine.) https://i.postimg.cc/KjJdjc56/2934320-900.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/FFyFmjXS/2934154-900.jpg |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:49:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, maybe not. In the opening days of the Yom Kippur War reckless, overly confident Israeli tankers took many losses from Egyptian infantry who were lavishly equipped with RPG-7s and AT-3 Sagger missiles. Some observers proclaimed that these weapons had made the tank obsolete. But the Israelis adapted to the threat and the tank remained very much relevant. Infantry anti-armor weapons are nothing new. War is not forgiving of carelessness. It remains to be seen whether the latest generation of anti-armor weapons are true game changers or just another step in the endless game of action and counter-action. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like armor and trucks are not very safe places to be. You are most likely getting a distorted perspective due to the sampling bias inherent in war photography. Destroyed or abandoned vehicles make for interesting yet “G-rated” pictures. The latter may be important to a professional photographer looking to sell their work to media outlets. Vehicles are harder to evacuate than human casualties and easy for photographers to find after the battle. During and after WWII it was often claimed that crewing a tank was more hazardous than infantry duty because they draw fire. My own infantryman grandfather believed this. Actual casualty figures from the ETO show that US Army infantry were killed at about six times the rate of tankers. You have to admit, though, that if you are dealing with infantry armed with large quantities of high tech AT missiles that defeat any existing armor including ERA, and roving drones capable of destroying armor, the modern tank is somewhat obsolete. Maybe, maybe not. In the opening days of the Yom Kippur War reckless, overly confident Israeli tankers took many losses from Egyptian infantry who were lavishly equipped with RPG-7s and AT-3 Sagger missiles. Some observers proclaimed that these weapons had made the tank obsolete. But the Israelis adapted to the threat and the tank remained very much relevant. Infantry anti-armor weapons are nothing new. War is not forgiving of carelessness. It remains to be seen whether the latest generation of anti-armor weapons are true game changers or just another step in the endless game of action and counter-action. All good points. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 11:53:56 AM EDT
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Very difficult to get a " real" perspective of the losses from the pictures we have access to. If I just looked at what has been coming across you might think the Ukrainians are kicking ass all over the place and have lost very little equipment. Wish we had a better visual from both sides , but its what we got.
On another note I happed to jump on LinkedIn to check out some jobs and the amount of BS on there with this Ukraine deal is staggering. Fake pics, old pics with new captions , and endless virtue signaling. Where were all these folks during the Crimea crisis! |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 12:09:07 PM EDT
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Beware the resolve of an armed man
protecting his animals and Country Battlefield Bringbacks Quote HistoryQuoted: They have their folks that will not survive their first engagement.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/300247/evac_png-2293586_jpeg-2293883.JPG |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 12:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing I've noticed throughout this thread is that Ukrainian infrantry seem better dressed with better winter gear than Russian infantry. The Russian uniforms and helmets look like carryovers from WWII. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Caption: The Russian armies established full control over the Ukrainian city Melitopol within special military operation. https://i.postimg.cc/sDWXMtWM/1775271517-0-190-3071-1917-1920x0-80-0-0-8fe0c05706134a1c08b803cfa0907241.jpg Caption: ????????? ???????. ?????? ????? https://i.postimg.cc/h4sFpMq2/772cfed441def11c05d4dc853e62e717.jpg Caption: ??????????? ??????????????, ???????????? ????? ???????? ??????? (Running this through translation I believe these Russian soldiers are standing by the sign for the village of Staroignatyevka in Eastern Ukraine.) https://i.postimg.cc/KjJdjc56/2934320-900.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/FFyFmjXS/2934154-900.jpg One thing I've noticed throughout this thread is that Ukrainian infrantry seem better dressed with better winter gear than Russian infantry. The Russian uniforms and helmets look like carryovers from WWII. Some are equipped with older stuff, But most that crossed the border from Russia have the newest ratnik program gear.  Ratnik Infantry loadout - Russian grunts reach the 21st century   Ratnik (program) Wiki |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 2:43:23 PM EDT
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Caption: Destroyed vehicles of the Ukrainian battalion "Aidar" as a result of the battles for Volnovakha. The Ukrainian side lost at least 3 cargo trucks, and 2 T-64BV tanks were completely destroyed. 12:08 PM · Mar 2
    Caption: A BMP-1 variant was also badly damaged. 12:17 PM · Mar 2, 2022  |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 3:12:19 PM EDT
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Caption: Chilling. Prisoner transport vehicles lining up in Kherson, southern Ukraine after the city was captured by Russian forces after several days of fighting. Darkness descends. An empire of evil has come.10:39 PM · Mar 1, 2022·
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