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Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:36:13 AM EDT
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Smooth so far.
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:40:42 AM EDT
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6th Landing!
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:40:44 AM EDT
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Bullseye
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:40:46 AM EDT
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100! Still exciting to watch.
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:41:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Kate Tice is looking cute with the glasses on
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:42:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Amazing how routine this is becoming.

Good job SpaceX team!
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:42:23 AM EDT
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Turned on the stream just in time to see the landing. Very nice!
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:44:07 AM EDT
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Didn't make it out to the Port , family business got in the way.

Watched from the front yard , looked great and heard it loud and clear !
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:47:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Amazing how routine this is becoming.

Good job SpaceX team!
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Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:56:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Kate Tice is looking cute with the glasses on
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Mmmm
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Link Posted: 8/18/2020 11:17:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey] [#11]
they caught 1 fairing, scooping up the other

Link Posted: 8/18/2020 5:52:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2020 6:32:43 PM EDT
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video
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 6:38:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2020 7:15:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Efu84bXXYAMYz1H?format=jpg&name=large
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I didn't know this was all done on autopilot!

Link Posted: 8/18/2020 7:16:08 PM EDT
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Nice, hit the '9' ring.
Nevers saw a video of one being caught, even though I don't think I've missed a launch.
THANKS for the video.
Like how the capture nets folded up.
Amazing what Elon, and his TEAM are doing!
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 7:21:39 PM EDT
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That video, if you watch closely, looks like the other half hit the water, understand it was scooped up.
Hey, save a million here, a few million there.
And this was the sixth Falcon 9 use, correct?
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 7:37:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:
That video, if you watch closely, looks like the other half hit the water, understand it was scooped up.
Hey, save a million here, a few million there.
And this was the sixth Falcon 9 use, correct?
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Yes.  First six time use for a booster/first stage.  Thanks for the video.  
Link Posted: 8/18/2020 7:52:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#19]
1.  Liftoff



2.  Booster landing



3.  Starlink canister deployment

Link Posted: 8/18/2020 10:36:22 PM EDT
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You can see two of the rideshare satellites here:

Link Posted: 8/19/2020 8:05:42 PM EDT
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Anybody know what rocket exhaust smells like???
I was just wondering - I know what automotive gas/diesel fuel exhaust smells like, I know what aviation gas/JetA fuel exhaust smells like, I know what race car nitro methane fuel exhaust smells like.
But I have no idea of what rocket fuel exhaust smells like.
I know it's different depending on what the fuel and oxidizer is, but I wonder if it smells anything like what I already know...
Yeah, whiskey posting....
Link Posted: 8/19/2020 8:25:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Anybody know what rocket exhaust smells like???
I was just wondering - I know what automotive gas/diesel fuel exhaust smells like, I know what aviation gas/JetA fuel exhaust smells like, I know what race car nitro methane fuel exhaust smells like.
But I have no idea of what rocket fuel exhaust smells like.
I know it's different depending on what the fuel and oxidizer is, but I wonder if it smells anything like what I already know...
Yeah, whiskey posting....
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RP-1 Kerosene and Lox burning hot and fast, don't know how much smell would be left.
I'd guess a carbon and kerosene smell.
If you could smell anything.
Great Question.
Link Posted: 8/19/2020 8:32:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:

RP-1 Kerosene and Lox burning hot and fast, don't know how much smell would be left.
I'd guess a carbon and kerosene smell.
If you could smell anything.
Great Question.
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Anybody know what rocket exhaust smells like???
I was just wondering - I know what automotive gas/diesel fuel exhaust smells like, I know what aviation gas/JetA fuel exhaust smells like, I know what race car nitro methane fuel exhaust smells like.
But I have no idea of what rocket fuel exhaust smells like.
I know it's different depending on what the fuel and oxidizer is, but I wonder if it smells anything like what I already know...
Yeah, whiskey posting....

RP-1 Kerosene and Lox burning hot and fast, don't know how much smell would be left.
I'd guess a carbon and kerosene smell.
If you could smell anything.
Great Question.

Yup, I'd assume it'd be similar to Jet-A in smell, if there was any smell at all.
Link Posted: 8/19/2020 10:07:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Anybody know what rocket exhaust smells like???
I was just wondering - I know what automotive gas/diesel fuel exhaust smells like, I know what aviation gas/JetA fuel exhaust smells like, I know what race car nitro methane fuel exhaust smells like.
But I have no idea of what rocket fuel exhaust smells like.
I know it's different depending on what the fuel and oxidizer is, but I wonder if it smells anything like what I already know...
Yeah, whiskey posting....
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I can tell you that you don’t want to smell any hypergolic fuel. Hydrazine smells like ammonia.

Link Posted: 8/19/2020 10:14:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:


I can tell you that you don't want to smell any hypergolic fuel. Hydrazine smells like ammonia.

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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Anybody know what rocket exhaust smells like???
I was just wondering - I know what automotive gas/diesel fuel exhaust smells like, I know what aviation gas/JetA fuel exhaust smells like, I know what race car nitro methane fuel exhaust smells like.
But I have no idea of what rocket fuel exhaust smells like.
I know it's different depending on what the fuel and oxidizer is, but I wonder if it smells anything like what I already know...
Yeah, whiskey posting....


I can tell you that you don't want to smell any hypergolic fuel. Hydrazine smells like ammonia.

Yeah - I have read enough stories and documentaries about hypergolic fuels used during WWll, I don't think I want to be anywhere around that 'stoff'...
Link Posted: 8/19/2020 11:35:02 PM EDT
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Wouldn't hydrolox just leave steam? So it'd smell like steam?
Link Posted: 8/23/2020 9:57:55 PM EDT
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Hazard zones for the SAOCOM 1B launch

Link Posted: 8/25/2020 8:42:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/25/2020 9:26:15 AM EDT
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Launch time is ~7:24 PM IIRC... Near sunset time!!!


You could get some sweet twilight effects like what happened in LA:



SpaceX Falcon 9 Launch (Anaheim, Ca)



Next Starlink launch is also planned for the 29th
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 9:44:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Launch time is ~7:24 PM IIRC... Near sunset time!!!


You could get some sweet twilight effects like what happened in LA:

https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/d9ccc5df672ac5f1c55821453c27a77c/205978029/IMG_0953.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2K96aY0tLw


Next Starlink launch is also planned for the 29th
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nah, cold, dry air ≠ warm, moist air
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 9:55:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Hazard zones for the SAOCOM 1B launch

https://i.postimg.cc/3N8WP5Rv/Bahama-track.jpg
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I wonder how visible this will be from Palm Beach County?
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 9:59:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


nah, cold, dry air ≠ warm, moist air
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There is very little air at all on the most visible parts of the "jellyfish"

Most of what you are seeing is the gaseous exhaust reflecting the sun in a near-vacuum.
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 10:02:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/25/2020 10:21:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:


I can tell you that you don’t want to smell any hypergolic fuel. Hydrazine smells like ammonia.

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That's some bad shit. A friend of mine needed a couple blood transfusion from that. It displaces the oxygen out of your blood and absorbs the water drowning you.

About 13 years ago during thruster post flight inspections, I came across a wet one with a MMH cloud swirling in the chamber

I got about 8 hours of "ox flu" last year from N2O4. Didn't even smell it before we had a visible cloud.
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 10:24:42 AM EDT
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Cool, I'll be on center Thursday night
Link Posted: 8/25/2020 11:03:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#36]
The sun will be behind observers for this launch whereas it was behind the rocket on the Vandenberg launch.

Sunset today at the Cape is 7:50 PM EDT.  Launch time around 7:19 PM EDT so before local sunset.

The 22 December 2017 Iridium 4 launch occurred at 5:27:23 PM PST.  Sunset in Los Angeles was around 448 PM PST according to sunrisesunset.com so the launch occurred about 39 minutes AFTER local sunset.

The lighting conditions are different but I would not miss it.  It might be better.
Link Posted: 8/26/2020 12:58:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


My wife and I were in the stands for the Falcon Heavy first launch, and it was really cool seeing two cores come back in for landing very close to the launch site.
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Were you able to hear the re-entry sonic booms?
Link Posted: 8/26/2020 11:07:47 AM EDT
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Were you able to hear the re-entry sonic booms?
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


My wife and I were in the stands for the Falcon Heavy first launch, and it was really cool seeing two cores come back in for landing very close to the launch site.


Were you able to hear the re-entry sonic booms?


Yes you can hear the sonic boom.
I was just down the street from DK-Prof that day.

It's a little different from when shuttle would come back and you get hit with the 2 sonic booms as it flew by at altitude circled and landed. The sonic boom off the booster hits about 5 or 6 seconds after the booster lands. Shuttle flew by horizontally and the shock wave came off vertically, spacex booster comes in vertically so the shockwave comes off it horizontally. It really sounds like only one boom.

Can even hear the shockwave from the booster at my house about 30 miles away.

I was in the parking lot off NASA Causeway during one landing (shot a vertical vid on my phone ) we could see that it looked wobbly and had some z axis spin going on and I stopped recording after it went below the tree line and had obviously landed. I was about 7 miles away.
When I got back to my desk upstairs was when we found out it went in the water just off the beach. That was the one the grid fin hydraulics failed on.
Link Posted: 8/26/2020 11:42:05 AM EDT
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The Incredible Sounds of the Falcon Heavy Launch (BINAURAL AUDIO IMMERSION) - Smarter Every Day 189


@ 5:30 he talks about the sonic booms. There are 3 per booster in rapid succession.
Link Posted: 8/27/2020 9:54:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#40]
According to Spaceflight Now SpaceX has two launches on 30 August.  That would be great if they can do it.
Link Posted: 8/27/2020 10:28:13 PM EDT
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According to Spaceflight Now SpaceX has two launches on 30 August.  That would be great if they can do it.
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Ms. Tree & Ms. Chief are heading back north from the SAOCOM fairing landing area. They may be swapping launches, Starlink first then SAOCOM.
Link Posted: 8/28/2020 9:37:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:

Ms. Tree & Ms. Chief are heading back north from the SAOCOM fairing landing area. They may be swapping launches, Starlink first then SAOCOM.
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Starlink is at 1008 AM EDT.  SAOCOM at 719 PM EDT.  Good point about the fairings.  Unless they intend to let the fairings be discarded on one launch, they need time (days) between launches to reposition the boats. Starlink is going northeast.  SAOCOM south.

By one unconfirmed account, the first stage on the SAOCOM launch will land near the launch site.

Chokey, thanks for the reminder about the recovery ships.

Link Posted: 8/28/2020 9:48:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


Starlink is at 1008 AM EDT.  SAOCOM at 719 PM EDT.  Good point about the fairings.  Unless they intend to let the fairings be discarded on one launch, they need time (days) between launches to reposition the boats. Starlink is going northeast.  SAOCOM south.

By one unconfirmed account, the first stage on the SAOCOM launch will land near the launch site.
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By Chokey:

Ms. Tree & Ms. Chief are heading back north from the SAOCOM fairing landing area. They may be swapping launches, Starlink first then SAOCOM.


Starlink is at 1008 AM EDT.  SAOCOM at 719 PM EDT.  Good point about the fairings.  Unless they intend to let the fairings be discarded on one launch, they need time (days) between launches to reposition the boats. Starlink is going northeast.  SAOCOM south.

By one unconfirmed account, the first stage on the SAOCOM launch will land near the launch site.


yes, the first stage of SAOCOM is returning to LZ-1.

this helps clarify things, one fairing catcher in each area. So possible catch and scoop in each fairing landing zone.

Link Posted: 8/28/2020 9:50:57 AM EDT
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According to Spaceflight Now SpaceX has two launches on 30 August.  That would be great if they can do it.
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It's mostly going to depend on if ULA can get it's shit together and launch NROL-44 on time. The launches are waiting on it.
Link Posted: 8/28/2020 10:19:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:


It's mostly going to depend on if ULA can get it's shit together and launch NROL-44 on time. The launches are waiting on it.
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
According to Spaceflight Now SpaceX has two launches on 30 August.  That would be great if they can do it.


It's mostly going to depend on if ULA can get it's shit together and launch NROL-44 on time. The launches are waiting on it.


yeah, the money vacuum ULA has priority.
Link Posted: 8/28/2020 10:31:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/28/2020 1:35:25 PM EDT
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Here is a map that seems to confirm Chokey's comment about one fairing catcher at each fairing landing zone.



"Each ship can carry both fairing halves but can only attempt to catch one and then hopefully scoop the other from the water.

SpaceX experimented with two halves on one ship a few weeks ago:



From SpaceXFleet.com
Link Posted: 8/28/2020 5:22:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/28/2020 5:31:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/28/2020 10:01:09 PM EDT
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Plus another treat:

"Update: In a surprise twist, SpaceX has confirmed plans to launch SAOCOM 1B, Starlink-11, and hop Starship SN6 in less than ten hours on August 30th.

Contingent upon a ULA Delta IV Heavy launch on August 29th, Starlink-11 is scheduled to lift off on a Falcon 9 rocket no earlier than (NET) 10:12 am EDT (UTC-4), followed by SAOCOM 1B on a separate Falcon 9 NET 7:18 pm EDT (UTC-4). Simultaneously, SpaceX is currently working towards a second full-scale Starship hop test between 8 am and 8 pm CDT (UTC-5) on Sunday, August 30th."

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