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Link Posted: 2/16/2023 11:23:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
I saw the Starlink train last night around 1847hrs. West central NH. How many objects were in that train? Had to be a hundred? Two hundred? It went on forever. Directly overhead, WNW to ESE.
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55 I believe.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 11:49:48 AM EST
[#2]
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 11:27:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#3]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Starlink 2-5

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch (49) of Starlink internet satellites. This mission will deploy the Starlink satellites into a high-inclination orbit inclined 70 degrees to the equator. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean."

2) Launch window:    11:12 AM PST (2:12 PM EST) (17 February 2023).

3) Launch site:   SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

4) Launch direction:   South-southeast

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    None

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Take two! Following a delay and return-to-port, OCISLY droneship is back out to sea and heading for the Starlink 2-5 landing zone.

The LZ is around ~145 km offshore from Baja California, near Guadalupe Island.

b.  Satellites:   Not found

c.  Ready for launch:   Not found

d.  Navigation warning:

https://i.postimg.cc/TPzx3Wpc/Falcon9.jpg

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Drone ship OCISLY

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:27   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:31   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:38   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:02:42   Fairing deployment
00:06:42   1st stage entry burn begins
00:07:01   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:21   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:41   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:08:43   1st stage landing
00:15:22   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit destination:  "Starlink Shell 2; 570 km circular 70° low-Earth Orbit (LEO), initial orbit of 327 km x 339 km at 70°"
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 8:57:34 AM EST
[#4]
Weather looking iffy for the Inmarsat launch tonight.
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:08:33 PM EST
[#5]
webcast has started
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:08:35 PM EST
[#6]
Webcast is live.
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:21:55 PM EST
[#7]
nailed it
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:24:30 PM EST
[#8]
Never gets old!
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:34:41 PM EST
[#9]
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 2:34:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#10]
Mission:  Falcon 9, INMARSAT 6 F2

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Inmarsat 6 F2 communications satellite for London-based Inmarsat. Built by Airbus Defense and Space, the satellite carries L-band and Ka-band payloads to provide mobile communications services to airplanes and ships. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. "  

2) Launch window:    10:59 PM EST (17 February 2023) - 12:28 AM EST (18 February 2023)

3) Launch Site:   SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4) Launch direction:  East

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    None.

7) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.     Departure! Just Read the Instructions droneship is underway for the Inmarsat I-6 F2 mission! Bob is towing and will also recover the fairing.

b.  Satellite:  


Inmarsat-6 (I-6) [Airbus DS]


The first Airbus-built Airbus Inmarsat-6 satellite being shipped to Japan. (Credit: Airbus D.S. / P.PIGEYRE / Master Films)

c.  Ready for launch:  


Credit:  SpaceX

d.  Navigation warning:   Not found

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship JRTI.

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:31  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:35  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:36  2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:23  Fairing deploy
00:06:20  1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:49  1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:09  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:08:12  1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:42  1st stage landing
00:26:10  2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:27:13  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
00:32:14  Inmarsat’s I-6 F2 deploys

10)  Orbit destination:  Geosynchronous transfer orbit
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 7:11:30 PM EST
[#11]
Clear and calm here so far.

Tom Terry can suck my dick.
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 7:42:54 PM EST
[#12]
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 10:57:10 PM EST
[#13]
t-2min
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 10:59:25 PM EST
[#14]
i wish i knew if this thing was going to fly over S. Texas...at night to see it...

do they post the path of it ?
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 11:04:40 PM EST
[#15]
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Originally Posted By Strikeforces:
i wish i knew if this thing was going to fly over S. Texas...at night to see it...

do they post the path of it ?
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due east

you'll never see a launch from Texas (except for Starship), they'll never cross land for a launch.
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 11:08:59 PM EST
[#16]
nailed it
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 11:19:46 PM EST
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


due east

you'll never see a launch from Texas (except for Starship), they'll never cross land for a launch.
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Thx...I should have looked at it more.   Reading is for suckers I guess...LoL

I'm tired...been a long week.  Sorry/Thx !
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 11:31:41 PM EST
[#18]
Tried to see if but it was a bit hazy in that direction. Oh well!  At least I could watch it live on YouTube.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 3:50:42 PM EST
[#19]

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SpaceX@SpaceX.    Crew-6 Dragon arrives at LC-39A ahead of flight
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 6:24:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#20]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Starlink 6-1

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch (21) of Starlink internet satellites. This mission will be the first mission to launch a new larger Starlink spacecraft design known as “Starlink V2 Mini.” The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."  

2) Launch window:   5:51 or 6:13 PM EST (27 February 2023)

3) Launch Site:   SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4) Launch direction:  Southeast

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    None.

7) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Maneuvering in port prior to departure


Astrogeo@astrogeo.  While enjoying a beautiful day at the beach we noticed #Doug and #ASOG heading out of Port Canaveral.

b.  Satellites:  See post #32 below.

c.  Ready for launch:


SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket vertical on pad 40 Sunday with the first group of Starlink V2 Mini satellites. Credit: William Harwood/CBS News

d.  Navigation warning:


Raul@Raul74Cz.    LHA map for #Starlink Group 6-1 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 23 Feb 18:37 UTC, altern. 24 Feb to 01 Mar based on NOTAM/NOTMARs. B1076.3 planned landing with estimated fairing recovery ~637km downrange. Final inclination 43°. S2 reentry area south of Cape Town.

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG.

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:26  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:30  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:37  2nd stage engine starts
00:03:06  Fairing deployment
00:06:08  1st stage entry burn starts
00:06:27  1st stage entry burn ends
00:07:59  1st stage landing burn start
00:08:22  1st stage landing
00:08:37  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:22  2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:24  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:04:36  Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit destination:     530 km (?) circular low-Earth orbit (LEO) at 43°; initial 365 km x 373 km orbit at 43°
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 6:37:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#21]
Starlink 6-1 appears to be the first to actually launch a Version 2 class payload.  Actually V2 mini since the real V2 is designed to be launched by Starship.   All previous launches that mentioned Gen 2 may have just assumed a mythical Gen 2 orbit.

This launch has 21 satellites versus 55 on most East coast launches recently.  The payload mass is ~750 kg/satellite versus the Version 1.5 at 307 kg/satellite.

Note that Gen 2 and V2 seem to be used interchangeably which may be incorrect.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 8:10:39 PM EST
[#22]
Interesting. I thought at first musk said v2 was starship only sized.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 8:22:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#23]
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise:
Interesting. I thought at first musk said v2 was starship only sized.
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That was probably true but his typical schedule delays meant that he has to use Falcon 9 to start launching them and the realities of Falcon 9 meant that he had to downsize Version 2 to a Version 2 mini.  Version 2 is about 2700 pounds.  Version 2 mini about 1650 pounds and almost certainly smaller in size.
Link Posted: 2/22/2023 9:36:35 PM EST
[#24]


Link Posted: 2/22/2023 11:19:54 PM EST
[#25]




Link Posted: 2/23/2023 11:10:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#26]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Crew-6

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Crew Dragon spacecraft on the program’s ninth flight with astronauts. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. NASA astronauts Stephen Bowen, Warren “Woody” Hoburg, UAE astronaut Sultan Al Neyadi, and Russian cosmonaut Andrey Fedyaev will launch on the Crew Dragon spacecraft to begin a six-month expedition on the International Space Station. The Crew Dragon will return to a splashdown at sea."  

2) Launch window:    12:34 AM EST (2 March 2023)

3) Launch Site:   LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

4) Launch direction:  Northeast

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 60 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    Night time launch should make the entry burn easier to see.

7) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.    As Falcon 9 rises, the droneship to recover it has just departed Port Canaveral.
Bob and Just Read the Instructions will be heading ~550 km downrange for the Crew-6 mission.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Just Read the Instructions droneship and support vessel Bob are positioned 550 km downrange to land the Falcon 9 booster just over 9 minutes into the Crew-6 mission.

b.  Satellite:  See post above

c.  Ready for launch:  See post below.

d.  Navigation warning:  


Raul@Raul74Cz.   Launch Hazard Areas for #Crew-6 Dragon mission according NOTMAR/NOTAM messages valid for 27 Feb 06:45 UTC, alternatively 28 Feb to 02 Mar. Planned B1078.1 landing position 550km downrange. Stage 2 Debris Reentry south of Australia.

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship JRTI.

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:34  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:38  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:45  2nd stage engine starts
00:07:22  1st stage entry burn
00:08:47  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:08:59  1st stage landing burn
00:09:26  1st stage landing
00:11:57  Dragon separates from 2nd stage
00:12:45  Dragon nosecone open sequence begins

10)  Orbit destination:  Rendezvous with the ISS.
Link Posted: 2/23/2023 11:59:42 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/23/2023 12:25:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: webtaz99] [#28]
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
5 years ago today was the first Falcon Heavy launch and the core stage missed.

https://i.imgur.com/RYvHFvI.gif
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It did not miss. It had a technical issue and purposely ditched, as it was programmed to do.
ETA: Note the lack of landing fins deployed.
Link Posted: 2/24/2023 9:46:40 PM EST
[#29]
Link Posted: 2/25/2023 1:59:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#30]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Starlink 2-7

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch (51) of Starlink internet satellites. This mission will deploy the Starlink satellites into a high-inclination orbit inclined 70 degrees to the equator. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean."

2) Launch window:    10:38 AM PST (1:38 PM EST) (3 March 2023).

3) Launch site:   SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

4) Launch direction:   South-southeast

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    None

7) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Departure! Of Course I Still Love You droneship is underway from the Port of Long Beach for Starlink 2-7.     Tug Scorpius is towing OCISLY ~650 km downrange.

b.  Satellites:   Not found

c.  Ready for launch:   Not found

d.  Navigation warning:


Raul@Raul74Cz.   LHA map for #Starlink Group 2-7 from VSFB SLC-4E NET 28 Feb 19:20 UTC, alternatively 29 Feb to 04 Mar based on issued NOTAM/NOTMARs. B1061.12 planned landing with estimated fairing recovery 661km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in South Pacific.

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Drone ship OCISLY

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:27  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:31  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:38  2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:02:42  Fairing deployment
00:06:42  1st stage entry burn begins
00:07:01  1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:21  1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:41  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:08:46  1st stage landing
00:15:22  Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit destination:  "Starlink Shell 2; 570 km circular 70° low-Earth Orbit (LEO), initial orbit of 327 km x 339 km at 70°"
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:13:46 PM EST
[#31]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/florida-weather-solid-for-nasa-s-spacex-crew-6-launch-to-iss-eyes-on-flight-conditions/ar-AA17VXAh?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=d01b02f796424c519cade18a2376e0f5

Florida weather solid for NASA's SpaceX Crew-6 launch to ISS; eyes on flight conditions

Local weather looks solid for NASA's launch of a new crew to the International Space Station early Monday, but forecasters are keeping an eye on conditions farther downrange in the Atlantic Ocean.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:59:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:16:05 PM EST
[#33]
How are orbiting Starlink sats not bouncing off of the launch vehicle when it comes up to deliver more in the same shell? Dumb luck? Sure seems like a lot of those things flying around real fast to be able to dodge.


Probably a stupid question, but I don’t space.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:26:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#34]
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Originally Posted By Darcy:
How are orbiting Starlink sats not bouncing off of the launch vehicle when it comes up to deliver more in the same shell? Dumb luck? Sure seems like a lot of those things flying around real fast to be able to dodge.
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The newly launched satellites are inserted into an orbit perhaps 150-200 kilometers lower than their operational altitude.  They then raise their orbits over weeks to come.  That is documented by this line in my write-up:

10)  Orbit destination:  "Starlink Shell 2; 570 km circular 70° low-Earth Orbit (LEO), initial orbit of 327 km x 339 km at 70°"

Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:31:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: SparticleBrane] [#35]
Holy crap, SpaceX is launching three rockets tomorrow, the 27th.

A crewed mission, and two Starlink missions.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:37:37 PM EST
[#36]
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Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Holy crap, SpaceX is launching three rockets tomorrow, the 27th.

A crewed mission, and two Starlink missions.
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I'm guessing one of the Starlink launches will be delayed.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:58:39 PM EST
[#37]
I’m intending to see the crewed launch in person. I’m in the area.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 4:20:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#38]
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
I'm guessing one of the Starlink launches will be delayed.
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I will guess not.  They just added Starlink 6-1 to the SpaceX.com website an hour or three ago.    The second Starlink launch is from California.   I won't bet on all three making it tomorrow.

I suspect that Falcon 9 • OneWeb 17 on 1 March may slip.  It is about an eight day turnaround on the booster recovery ship so no way will they launch Crew-6 and Starlink 6-1 Monday then OneWeb two days later.

There it is....that would justify slipping Starlink 6-1 for OneWeb.    We shall see.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 10:21:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: Chokey] [#39]
NASA is live

NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV


NSF is live

SCRUB: SpaceX & NASA Scrub Launch of Crew-6 to Space Station
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 10:27:24 PM EST
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqUst-acAEf61a?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqUsxwagAEwqOR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqUtGbaEAELs50?format=jpg&name=4096x4096



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqU3alakAECloL?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

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That new elevator button plate is cool. Now I sit thinking how many times I pushed that 195' level button before space x was around makes me feel old
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 10:30:18 PM EST
[#41]
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
I’m intending to see the crewed launch in person. I’m in the area.
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Awesome, welcome to the space coast!
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 1:38:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: Plumber576] [#42]
6 minutes

Link Posted: 2/27/2023 1:40:17 AM EST
[#43]
TEA-TEB loading issue but still go at this time.
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 1:43:17 AM EST
[#44]
Scrubbed
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 1:49:36 AM EST
[#45]
Bummer.
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 2:09:39 AM EST
[#46]
Well, I can’t afford to stay so I suppose that’s the end of that.
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 6:06:35 AM EST
[#47]
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 9:18:35 AM EST
[#48]
What was the issue?
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 10:18:13 AM EST
[#49]
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Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:
What was the issue?
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"SpaceX has called off this morning's countdown due to a concern with the TEA-TEB system used to ignite the Falcon 9's main engines."
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 10:25:01 AM EST
[#50]
A Detailed answer to my previous question about crash avoidance, direct from Starlink. This paper focuses on avoiding the space stations.
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