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Link Posted: 11/6/2020 1:01:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2020 1:15:03 AM EDT
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It's been a long list of successful GPS space vehicle launches. The last launch failure was last century, in 1997, when the first IIR SV had an unplanned catastrophic disassembly mere seconds into launch.  That was SVN 42.  Today's launch was SVN 77.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 1:26:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:

First pic is NICE!
Bet that it was one heck of a thing to view!
Have you viewed any prior launches?
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:

First pic is NICE!
Bet that it was one heck of a thing to view!
Have you viewed any prior launches?
It was! I honestly didn't even know it was happening, I was on my way to work on the back of a crew boat, and one guy said "holy shit, look at that comet!" I saw it and said "dude, that's no comet, that's something leaving our atmosphere. "

hopped on here because I knew someone would be posting about a launch, sure enough!  Just wish I could have seen the first part of it, that sucker was CRUISING!

Definitely first launch I've seen, hopefully I can see another in my lifetime!
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 7:20:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaryM:
Figures. I drove out to Titusville (Canaveral) yesterday to watch the launch but it was scrubbed. Today's launch was right on time. I at least got to see it from my driveway.
160 miles away is nowhere near as good as 5 miles....
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Sorry to hear that.
I had forgotten about the launch and we were sitting outside when the launch broadcast broke in over the radio.
With the time delay it gave me enough to head out front and watch , night launches are spectacular !

That payload must have been at the upper limits of the Falcon 9 because it sure seemed to take its time gaining altitude.
Regardless, we got lit up on the Space coast !
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 7:28:59 AM EDT
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I hope SpaceX continues forward because under a Biden administration, NASA will be fracked. The Socialists will absolutely not fund future lunar missions.
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Grandson works for a large contractor out at the Cape , he also is a Trump hater.
When i told him how Obama gutted the space program when he got elected he just laughed at me and said nothing will happen.

He and his wife have a one year old baby and just bought a house 5 months ago.
If Biden takes office.....damn straight he is going to do the same thing Obama did.


Link Posted: 11/6/2020 7:44:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:

That payload must have been at the upper limits of the Falcon 9 because it sure seemed to take its time gaining altitude.
Regardless, we got lit up on the Space coast !
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IIRC GPS launches are close to the limit of an ASDS recovery.  On their first GPS launch the USAF made them expend the core to 100% ensure they had margins for a successful orbit insertion.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 7:44:59 AM EDT
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Space is building a floating super heavy class spaceport. Would be a good insurance policy if Biden goes serious to shut everything down. Elon probably doesn't trust anyone and is trying to save himself.
Link Posted: 11/7/2020 12:01:11 AM EDT
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Crew Dragon spacecraft for the Crew-1 mission has arrived at Launch Complex 39A!

Liftoff is targeted for 7:49 p.m. ET Saturday, Nov. 14

Another night launch.





Link Posted: 11/7/2020 10:42:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:

Grandson works for a large contractor out at the Cape , he also is a Trump hater.
When i told him how Obama gutted the space program when he got elected he just laughed at me and said nothing will happen.

He and his wife have a one year old baby and just bought a house 5 months ago.
If Biden takes office.....damn straight he is going to do the same thing Obama did.


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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Originally Posted By Skywarner:
I hope SpaceX continues forward because under a Biden administration, NASA will be fracked. The Socialists will absolutely not fund future lunar missions.

Grandson works for a large contractor out at the Cape , he also is a Trump hater.
When i told him how Obama gutted the space program when he got elected he just laughed at me and said nothing will happen.

He and his wife have a one year old baby and just bought a house 5 months ago.
If Biden takes office.....damn straight he is going to do the same thing Obama did.




I watched all of it unfold out there back in the USA days. He is foolish for thinking nothing will happen.

There is always political risk.

Back in 2004 we were spared from getting a John Kerry administration. I don't think even the liberals out there supported him after he tried canceling ISS while he was in congress. ISS was the only thing that was keeping shuttle flying then.

FBO campaigned in tville and told the liberals what what they wanted to hear. Their technical skills are important, there will be jobs and bla bla bla...

Boy did they get played.

I was on center day FBO flew in on AF1 and landed at KSC. His motorcade drove the perimeter line around KSC to the beach and went to the Spacex pad for a tour with Elon. After FBO left Spacex he went to the operations and checkout building to give a speech. O&C - at the time was being changed up for Orion processing, some of us had been transferred to that program and were working in the HiBay there.

Everyone that worked in the building was sent elsewhere for the day, which is normal during a visit like that. What was funny about it was everyone there was wearing lab coats like they just put down their beakers and stepped out of the lab to attend the event. The only ones in attendance that weren't bussed in were the program directors and higher level. It was all a show. A few months later Constellation Program was canceled.

Opinions and discussion on that program or SLS or any other program isn't what I'm trying to drum up here. I'm just saying no one should think that there aren't going to be consequences for this.

If Artemis program gets dumped Spacex will be affected also. If ISS gets shut down Spacex will be affected also. Not crippling effects, Elons internet satellites look like they may be able to pay for anything he wants to do, but having customers with goals and willing to pay for it are huge.

I don't know what kind of customer would be interested in the Moon and or Mars during a political climate being gobbled up with the covid and green new deals

Back in the shuttle days we had a saying - what is your plan B.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2020 6:44:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/9/2020 6:48:51 PM EDT
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Love how SpaceX just has used boosters stacked in a hangar next to the next rocket to take people into space.
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 7:25:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lagtime:
Love how SpaceX just has used boosters stacked in a hangar next to the next rocket to take people into space.
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Yep!
And thank for the pics Chokey!
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 10:43:06 PM EDT
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rolling to the pad

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Worm logo is the best logo! Very nice photos.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 11:45:55 AM EDT
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This is gonna be awesome
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:17:06 PM EDT
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And, Again, And thank for the pics Chokey!
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:19:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:
And, Again, And thank for the pics Chokey!
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I know his tag line is "king of gifs", but he's more than delivered on the jpegs.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:30:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Ain't nobody got time to go to the Moon or Mars when we can use the money for social justice instead!  
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I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:05:32 PM EDT
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I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.
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If Biden wins I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX puts people on Mars before NASA puts people on the moon.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:43:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:47:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:



I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.
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Could see Musk going "well, guess we're just doing it alone".
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:53:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


That is absolutely the plan, and it is what Musk will do.

He'll take the NASA money, but he definitely WILL go to Mars - with or without NASA.



ETA:  I never for a second believed that NASA was actually sending people to Mars.  That window closed decades ago, and it's not going to happen.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:



I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.



Could see Musk going "well, guess we're just doing it alone".


That is absolutely the plan, and it is what Musk will do.

He'll take the NASA money, but he definitely WILL go to Mars - with or without NASA.



ETA:  I never for a second believed that NASA was actually sending people to Mars.  That window closed decades ago, and it's not going to happen.



If you've seen the NatGeo mini Series on netflix called Mars.  They not only interview Musk in present-day (2016), but how an eccentric multi-billionaire (in 2033) invests nearly all of his portfolio into putting man on the surface of mars (regardless of national/international help).
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 5:11:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:



Could see Musk going "well, guess we're just doing it alone".
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I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.



Could see Musk going "well, guess we're just doing it alone".


We'll be the ones mass immigrating to Mars as the US collapses in that case.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 5:20:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mb300sd:


We'll be the ones mass immigrating to Mars as the US collapses in that case.
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Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:



I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.



Could see Musk going "well, guess we're just doing it alone".


We'll be the ones mass immigrating to Mars as the US collapses in that case.


I'd go, but there are MANY more smarter, fit, younger EE/CSEs that would be on the list in front of me.  
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 7:28:40 PM EDT
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Click date for video


Link Posted: 11/11/2020 11:16:22 AM EDT
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Eta could be a problem for the launches this week.

Link Posted: 11/11/2020 12:41:30 PM EDT
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Hmm clicking the twitter link gives me a “this is not available for you”
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:26:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:39:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

IIRC GPS launches are close to the limit of an ASDS recovery.  On their first GPS launch the USAF made them expend the core to 100% ensure they had margins for a successful orbit insertion.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:

That payload must have been at the upper limits of the Falcon 9 because it sure seemed to take its time gaining altitude.
Regardless, we got lit up on the Space coast !

IIRC GPS launches are close to the limit of an ASDS recovery.  On their first GPS launch the USAF made them expend the core to 100% ensure they had margins for a successful orbit insertion.


The USAF made them expend the core, but the GPS launches are well within the performance of drone landing.

The GPS sats weigh ~4.3 tonnes and are sent to a ~22,000km apogee, and Falcon 9 routinely sends 5.5 tonne GTO satellites to a ~36,000km apogee. Inclination is a bit higher on GPS launches, but wont make up for lower mass and higher apogee.
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:41:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

If Biden wins I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX puts people on Mars before NASA puts people on the moon.
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I think Biden winning will cinch it that SpaceX gets people on Mars before NASA does.

If Biden wins I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX puts people on Mars before NASA puts people on the moon.


Good thing it looks like Starlink will be a cash cow....
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:42:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Yeah, the projections are crazy.

If Elon wasn't already doing it, he can basically start heating his house by burning $100 bills in a furnace.  
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Starlink could very easily and rapidly become a multi-tens of billions profit per year company.

SpaceX could have a bigger budget than NASA (~$20 billion/y)!  
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:52:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:


Starlink could very easily and rapidly become a multi-tens of billions profit per year company.

SpaceX could have a bigger budget than NASA (~$20 billion/y)!  
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Just in time for President Julian Castro to "Nationalize" SpaceX in 2033.
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:54:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:


Just in time for President Julian Castro to "Nationalize" SpaceX in 2033.
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:


Starlink could very easily and rapidly become a multi-tens of billions profit per year company.

SpaceX could have a bigger budget than NASA (~$20 billion/y)!  


Just in time for President Julian Castro to "Nationalize" SpaceX in 2033.


Link Posted: 11/11/2020 10:27:13 PM EDT
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1) Background info:    Source:  SpaceFlightNow.com

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Crew Dragon spacecraft on its first operational flight with astronauts on-board to the International Space Station. NASA astronauts Mike Hopkins, Victor Glover and Shannon Walker, and Japanese astronaut Soichi Noguchi will launch on the Crew Dragon spacecraft. The Crew Dragon will return to a splashdown at sea. "

2) Launch window: 7:27 PM EST (15 November 2020)

3) Launch Site: SLC-39A, KSC, Florida

4) Webcast/TV viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about four hours before liftoff)

b. YouTube:  



c.  NASA TV

Watch the Launch of NASA's SpaceX Crew-1 Mission to the International Space Station



5) Launch preparations:

a.  JRTI on location for first stage recovery attempt.



6) First stage return/disposal: Ocean landing on JRTI

7) Payload fairing recovery:   Not applicable

8) Mission press kit: Replaced with online format

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off

00:02:37   First stage MECO (main engine cutoff)
00:02:48   Second stage starts
00:07:29   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:50   Second stage engine cutoff
00:09:29   1st stage landing
00:12:03   Dragon separates from the second stage

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Further proof no matter how damn big your shop is, you'll always need a bigger one.
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 1:30:56 PM EDT
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Excited.

I'm going to have American and Japanese whiskey ready to celebrate
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