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Link Posted: 7/24/2022 3:18:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kill-9:

It looked to me like they brought it in at an unusually steep angle this time.  The grid fins were really working near the end.
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The grid fin movement is more pronounced just before landing because of a gradually decreasing airspeed also decreases their effectiveness, therefore they appear more radical in their movement just before touchdown.

It's an aerodynamic thing just like an aircraft wing, they are not effective until the air is moving fast enough over the wing to take advantage of redirecting it.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:23:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#2]
Mission:  KPLO

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Korea Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter, or KPLO. This is South Korea’s first space exploration mission. The KPLO spacecraft carries science instruments to image permanently shadowed craters to search for signs of water ice, measure the composition of lunar regolith, and capture high-resolution images to map future landing sites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. "

"If KPLO launches in the first week of August, its arrival date at the moon is fixed on Dec. 16. The Falcon 9 will propel the spacecraft on a trajectory that will take it close to the L1 Lagrange point, a gravitationally-stable location nearly a million miles (1.5 million kilometers) from the daytime side of the Earth, some four times farther than the moon.

Gravitational forces will naturally pull the spacecraft back toward the Earth and the moon, where the Korean probe will be captured in orbit Dec. 16. A series of propulsive maneuvers with the spacecraft’s thrusters will steer KPLO into a circular low-altitude orbit about 60 miles (100 kilometers) from the lunar surface by New Year’s Eve."

2) Launch window:    7:08 PM EDT  (4 August 2022).

3) Launch Site:   SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4) Launch direction:  Easterly

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff)

b.  You Tube



6) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore

Tug Kurt J Crosby is gearing up to depart Port Canaveral with Just Read the Instructions droneship for the KPLO mission, NET August 4th.  JRTI will be stationed approx ~640 km downrange.

http://nasaspaceflight.com/fleetcam

b.   Satellite:


The Korea Lunar Pathfinder Orbiter spacecraft undergoing testing in South Korea before shipment to Florida for launch preparations. Credit: KARI

b.  Ready for launch.  


Jenny Hautmann@JennyHPhoto

KPLO sits ready at SLC-40 ahead of launch which is scheduled for 7:08 PM ET this evening.

c.  Navigation warning:




7) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:  Drone ship JRTI recovery

8) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:31  First stage MECO (main engine cutoff)
00:02:34  Stage separation
00:02:42  Second stage starts
00:03:15  Fairing deployment
00:06:49  1st stage entry burn begins
00:07:19  1st stage entry burn ends
00:07:58  1st stage landing burn starts
00:08:33  2nd stage engine cutoff
00:09:01  1st stage landing
00:34:15  2nd stage engine restarts (SES-2)
00:35:15  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
00:40:16  KPLO deploys
Link Posted: 8/2/2022 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2022 6:55:05 PM EDT
[#4]
muzak has started
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 6:55:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Webcast is starting
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:09:03 PM EDT
[#6]
This shit never gets old
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:19:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo] [#7]
Did they crash the booster?

Guess not.
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:19:32 PM EDT
[#8]
apparently they nailed it
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:19:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: theskuh] [#9]
Ooof they may have lost the landing. Nm just said it landed.
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:20:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By theskuh:
Ooof they may have lost the landing. Nm just said it landed.
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They  said it was good.
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:20:46 PM EDT
[#11]
pretty sketch there for a moment

Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:20:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
apparently they nailed it
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wow yea they just showed a shot. Looked like it was moving a ton coming down.
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:21:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:22:24 PM EDT
[#14]
How long is the trip to Moon orbit?
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:26:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Maybe I never noticed before, but when the 1st stage was coming down there seemed to be a lot of debris floating around in the video.

Anyone else see this?
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:33:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yea-Right:
Maybe I never noticed before, but when the 1st stage was coming down there seemed to be a lot of debris floating around in the video.

Anyone else see this?
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always happens - ice/frost, M-Vac nozzle stiffener ring
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:35:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#17]
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Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:
How long is the trip to Moon orbit?
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Read the launch post above.   Discussed near the beginning in the Background Info section.
Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:35:26 PM EDT
[#18]
this was a shot from John Kraus this morning from the Atlas V launch

Link Posted: 8/4/2022 7:45:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Good.  They should show deployment.
Link Posted: 8/5/2022 12:51:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
this was a shot from John Kraus this morning from the Atlas V launch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZWpw1oXoAMhpwg?format=jpg&name=large
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That's a beautiful shot. Thanks for sharing, Chokey.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 1:48:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
this was a shot from John Kraus this morning from the Atlas V launch

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Hell yeah!
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 1:52:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
this was a shot from John Kraus this morning from the Atlas V launch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZWpw1oXoAMhpwg?format=jpg&name=large
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Amazing picture !

Thanks Chokey.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 7:43:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#23]
Mission:  Starlink 4-26

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch with another batch of Starlink internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."

2) Launch window:    10:14 PM EDT  (9 August 2022).

3) Launch Site:   LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

4) Launch direction:  Northeast

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  You Tube



6) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Alex Pietras@astro_pietras@SpaceOffshore   Doug and ASOG


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.      Departure! A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is heading ~630 km downrange for the Starlink 4-26 mission.      http://nasaspaceflight.com/fleetcam


b.  Ready for launch.  

c.  Navigation warning:


Raul@Raul74Cz.     LHA map for #Starlink Group 4-26 from KSC LC-39A NET 09 Aug 22:59 UTC, alternatively 10 to 15 Aug based on NOTMAR/NOTAMs. B1073.3 planned landing with roughly estimated fairing recovery approx. 656km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in eastern Pacific. http://bit.do/LHA19

7) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:  Drone ship ASOG recovery

8) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:26  First stage MECO (main engine cutoff)
00:02:30  Stage separation
00:02:36  Second stage starts
00:02:41  Fairing deployment
00:06:45  1st stage entry burn begins
00:07:06  1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:19  1st stage landing burn starts
00:08:43  2nd stage engine cutoff
00:08:44  1st stage landing
00:15:24  Satellites deployment



Link Posted: 8/8/2022 8:17:14 PM EDT
[#24]
This is pretty cool, a guy lands a model rocket like SpaceX.

I Landed A Rocket Like SpaceX - Scout F
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 4:53:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
This is pretty cool, a guy lands a model rocket like SpaceX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH3lR2GLgT0
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got a shout out from Musk on it, too!
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 6:27:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/9/2022 6:41:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#27]
Launch time is now 1014 PM EDT tonight. Chokey got it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:06:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Webcast music has begun.
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:17:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#29]
Nice smoke ring around T+1:08
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:17:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Those were some odd cloud manipulations.

Here’s hoping for a good landing.
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:19:21 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:24:12 PM EDT
[#32]
nailed it
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:24:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Noice
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 12:38:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 1:23:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RED_5:



I watched in person.. was that the transition through the clouds?  that was pretty cool

wish I had a good camera for that

my crappy cell phone camera didn't like all the cloudy haze and wouldn't focus
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Well at least you stayed up for it !

Link Posted: 8/10/2022 1:57:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#36]
Mission:  Starlink 3-3

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch with another batch (46) of Starlink internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean."

2) Launch window:    2:40 PM PDT  (5:40 PM EDT) (12 August 2022).

3) Launch Site:   SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

4) Launch direction:  South

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  You Tube



6) Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.     Of Course I Still Love You droneship departed from Long Beach last night with tug Scorpius for Starlink 3-3.    GO Quest will cover droneship support whilst NRC Quest is expected to recover the fairing.

b.  Ready for launch.  


c.  Navigation warning:



7) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:  Drone ship OCISLY recovery

8) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:02:39  First stage MECO (main engine cutoff)
00:02:33  Stage separation
00:02:39  Second stage starts
00:02:44  Fairing deployment
00:06:21  1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:41  1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:04  1st stage landing burn starts
00:08:25  1st stage landing
00:08:45  2nd stage engine cutoff
00:53:58  2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:00  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:03:01  Satellites deployment


Link Posted: 8/12/2022 5:33:55 PM EDT
[#37]
Webcast music has started.
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 5:34:57 PM EDT
[#38]
intros up

Link Posted: 8/12/2022 5:49:10 PM EDT
[#39]
nailed it
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 5:51:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
nailed it
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It was off center a few feet!
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 6:23:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


It was off center a few feet!
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By Chokey:
nailed it


It was off center a few feet!


you know it's not about where it lands but rather that it lands on such a small target at all.
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 10:21:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
you know it's not about where it lands but rather that it lands on such a small target at all.
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It is a testament to their expertise that being off center a few feet is the only "negative" thing to be said.

Link Posted: 8/12/2022 10:24:06 PM EDT
[#43]
It still amazes me. Not just that they are able to land the sucker, on a barge. But that the barge is so small.

If I was in charge of Falcon 9 I probably would have tried to get something more Nimitz class aircraft carrier sized.
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 10:30:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


It is a testament to their expertise that being off center a few feet is the only "negative" thing to be said.

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LOL, ain't it the truth!
A few years ago, we were hoping for a successful barge landing - now we judge how far the landing is off (in feet/meters) from the landing spot from a vehicle returning from space.
Link Posted: 8/12/2022 10:37:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/14/2022 12:27:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#46]
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Launch me more sattelites damn it!

Just things at the Esstac Shooting range. Only had to kill one tree, which was the easiest way to pit a pole in.

Using portability and it already told me it's peak times so expect slow speeds.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/Screenshot_20220812-183744_Chrome-2487058.jpg
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I am not an expert on this but maybe after a day or so power it down, wait a few minutes then restart it.  I have a vague recollection that someone did something like that and it improved substantially.

Ideally whoever has done this will clarify the procedure.   Maybe not.  I saw this in the Starlink thread.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaN-XudWQAAyh_z?format=jpg&name=900x900
Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore

Steamroller doesn't stop. ASOG droneship is about to depart for Starlink 4-27.

Tug Crosby Skipper will tow ~630 km downrange.
Link Posted: 8/14/2022 1:15:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


I am not an expert on this but maybe after a day or so power it down, wait a few minutes then restart it.  I have a vague recollection that someone did something like that and it improved substantially.

Ideally whoever has done this will clarify the procedure.   Maybe not.  I saw this in the Starlink thread.
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Launch me more sattelites damn it!

Just things at the Esstac Shooting range. Only had to kill one tree, which was the easiest way to pit a pole in.

Using portability and it already told me it's peak times so expect slow speeds.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/Screenshot_20220812-183744_Chrome-2487058.jpg


I am not an expert on this but maybe after a day or so power it down, wait a few minutes then restart it.  I have a vague recollection that someone did something like that and it improved substantially.

Ideally whoever has done this will clarify the procedure.   Maybe not.  I saw this in the Starlink thread.



I've seen that posted a few times around the internet. Didn't work for me the multiple times I tried it. If the cell is overloaded, the cell is overloaded.
Link Posted: 8/17/2022 11:56:40 AM EDT
[#48]
Does anyone have suggestions for improving the posts about the next launch?   I recently added launch direction.
Link Posted: 8/17/2022 1:17:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Does anyone have suggestions for improving the posts about the next launch?   I recently added launch direction.
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You're doing a great job!
Link Posted: 8/17/2022 1:30:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Does anyone have suggestions for improving the posts about the next launch?   I recently added launch direction.
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I enjoy the thread as it is.  It might be nice to see booster numbers, but that’s just a convenience.
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