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Mission: Starlink 4-2
1) Background info: Source "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch with another batch of 34 Starlink internet satellites. The BlueWalker 3 test satellite for AST SpaceMobile’s planned space-based cellular broadband network is a rideshare payload on this mission. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. " 2) Launch window: 9:10 PM EDT (10 September 2022). 3) Launch Site: LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida 4) Launch direction: Northeast 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff) b. You Tube Starlink Mission 6) Observation Comments: Sunset at the launch site is 7:34 PM EDT on the 10th. Civil twilight is at 7:58 PM. Astronautical twilight is 8:54 PM EDT. It will be dark on the ground but I don't know at what altitude the rocket will encounter sunlight. I will be observing for the jellyfish effect from Colorado. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! Bob and ASOG head out for Starlink 4-2 b. Ready for launch. Source: SpaceFlightNow Bluewalker 3 satellite stowed: Bluewalker 3 satellite in on-orbit configuration: Source: AST SpaceMobile c. Navigation warning: 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship ASOG recovery. Booster 1058.14. Fourteenth launch. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:02:32 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:35 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:42 2nd stage engine starts 00:03:16 Fairing deployment 00:06:17 1st stage entry burn start 00:06:37 1st stage entry burn complete 00:08:09 1st stage landing burn start 00:08:28 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:08:31 1st stage landing 00:47:16 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:47:20 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 00:49:51 AST SpaceMobile’s BlueWalker 3 satellite deploys 01:07:36 2nd stage engine starts (SES-3) 01:07:38 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-3) 01:53:56 2nd stage engine starts (SES-4) 01:54:05 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-4) 02:03:49 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: a. BlueWalker 3: Inserted into a 513 kilometer orbit at 53 degree inclination. b. Starlinks: |
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this should be a good one to view on the East Coast
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Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion: this should be a good one to view on the East Coast View Quote The launch the next day will be nine minutes later (unless it changes) so that can only help. Update: I just found a reliable source that has the current lift-off time as 10:53 PM EDT on 11 September 2022 for Starlink 4-34. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote If they would put out the flight profile we might understand that. I check and there it is!!!! Four second stage burns plus a fifth to deorbit the second stage if sufficient fuel remains. Only 34 Starlink satellites so they left off about nineteen to have the fuel needed to make all those burns. |
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Webcast has begun
Launch at 920 PM EDT |
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Landing!
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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SECO.
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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“There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens.”
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
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looked like your typical Falcon 9 night launch from here in Cocoa.
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MIA: M/SGT James W. Holt USSF 2-7-68 SVN
"Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you." -A. Wilkow |
Have you seen this?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1566961113530613760 The landing looks much more dramatic and impressive than the usual view of the landing. It also looks a lot bigger. |
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Mission: Starlink 4-34
1) Background info: Source "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch with another batch of Starlink internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." Booster B1067-6 2) Launch window: 8:18 PM EDT (18 September 2022). 3) Launch Site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida 4) Launch direction: Northeast 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff) b. You Tube Starlink Mission 6) Observation comments: Sunset at the launch site on 18 September is at 7:25 PM EDT. Civil twilight is 7:48 PM, Nautical twilight is at 8:16 PM EDT and astronomical twilight is 8:44 PM EDT. The launch is at nautical twilight so I am cautiously optimistic that the lighting may be good for a jellyfish event but people along the US eastern seaboard and some distance inland should consider going out to look for it. In addition, they should have an easier opportunity to see the flame of the booster. Since the booster re-entry burn can be seen from the launch site, people along the east coast up to perhaps Virginia should as well. Look at the recovery area and estimate the look angle (south, southeast, east, etc) from your location. Be sure to set the location at the upper right to one reasonably close to you. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! Just Read the Instructions droneship got underway from Port Canaveral at 2:30am for Starlink 4-34. That's just 9 hours after delivering B1052 from the previous mission. http://NASASpaceflight.com/fleetcam Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Starlink 4-34 (Sun): JRTI droneship is hauling downrange, under the tow of tug Kurt J Crosby. b. Ready for launch. Source: Stephan Marr, NASASpaceFlight.com c. Navigation warning: Raul@Raul74Cz. LHA map for #Starlink Group 4-34 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 14 Sep 02:10 UTC, altern. 15 to 19 Sep based on NOTMAR/NOTAMs. B1067.6 planned landing with roughly estimated fairing recovery approx. 666km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in eastern Pacific. http://bit.do/LHA20 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship JRTI recovery 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:02:27 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:31 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:36 2nd stage engine starts 00:02:42 Fairing deployment 00:06:48 1st stage entry burn start 00:07:07 1st stage entry burn complete 00:08:26 1st stage landing burn start 00:08:40 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:08:47 1st stage landing 00:15:21 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: Starlink Shell 4; 540 km circular low-Earth orbit (LEO); initial orbit: 336 x 232 km low-Earth orbit at 53.22 degrees |
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Due to unfavorable weather, now targeting Wednesday, September 14 at 9:48 p.m. ET for launch of 54 Starlink satellites from SLC-40
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Due to unfavorable weather, now targeting Wednesday, September 14 at 9:48 p.m. ET for launch of 54 Starlink satellites from SLC-40 View Quote Chain lightning hanging around from the storm(s) earlier. It's been a weather pattern that's been kind of hanging around for about 2 weeks. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Standing down from tonight's Starlink mission due to unfavorable weather, now targeting Thursday, September 15 at 9:27 p.m. ET for launch of 54 Starlink satellites from SLC-40.
Closer to possible jellyfish sighting. |
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Stream's up.
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WX Scrub
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scrubbed due to weather
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Interesting story about the small tug Braveheart at the Port. Captain was interviewed the other day:
"Braveheart has a history that not many people know about. She was orginally a PCF boat for the US Navy and served in the Vietnam war. After the war the Navy decomissioned most PCF vessels." "They left two for CIA and they used them in Cuba. One of those vessels was Braveheart. After her service in the military she served in Key West as a pilot boat." "After her life as a pilot boat ended she was bought by a capt. and came here to Canaveral." Braveheart is the small blue and white boat in the right 3rd of the pic. That boat is ever present and actively working when the barges are brought in with boosters. It's got some history ! Attached File |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Interesting story about the small tug Braveheart at the Port. Captain was interviewed the other day: "Braveheart has a history that not many people know about. She was orginally a PCF boat for the US Navy and served in the Vietnam war. After the war the Navy decomissioned most PCF vessels." "They left two for CIA and they used them in Cuba. One of those vessels was Braveheart. After her service in the military she served in Key West as a pilot boat." "After her life as a pilot boat ended she was bought by a capt. and came here to Canaveral." Braveheart is the small blue and white boat in the right 3rd of the pic. That boat is ever present and actively working when the barges are brought in with boosters. It's got some history ! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/20220621_122312_jpg-2528475.JPG View Quote That's pretty interesting. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote New T-0 is 9:15 p.m. ET; weather remains 40% favorable for liftoff |
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. Herbert Spencer
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I cannot tell if the You Tube link changed.
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Thank you
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Talking heads should start in a couple of minutes.
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Everywhere we go, we are surrounded by people who stumble through life dependent upon the vigilance and/or kindness of others. - Zardoz
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Currently No-Go for WX (60% violation), but proceeding to T-0:30
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One minute until Letdown!
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Everywhere we go, we are surrounded by people who stumble through life dependent upon the vigilance and/or kindness of others. - Zardoz
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scrub
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Boooooooo
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Seriously... unTex the Mex..
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4 scrubs. Wow.
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Gets closer to a jellyfish ascent
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote Not a surprise. Weather has been a thing all day. Supposed to dry out in the next few days and those boys out there know it, may as well take a break and wait for things to shape up. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Jellyfish events
1) A famous one was the 22 December 2017 Iridium launch from Vandenberg observed in Los Angeles, CA and other locations. Launch time: 5:27 PM PST Sunset: 4:48 PM PST Civil twilight: 5:16 PM PST Nautical twilight: 5:47 PM PST Astronautical twilight: 6:17 PM PST SpaceX Iridium-4 Satellite Launch 12/22/2017 Seen from Los Angeles, CA. 2) 6 May 2022, Florida. Launch time: 5:42 AM EDT Sunrise: 6:38 AM EDT Civil twilight: 6:13 AM EDT Nautical twilight: 5:43 AM EDT Astronautical twilight: 5:12 AM EDT This is from South Carolina by Johnny Caldwell: Man captures SpaceX Starlink launch over skies of South Carolina Central Florida (by Sam Wakim). Go to 2:30. Space Jellyfish, Falcon-9 pre-dawn launch over Central Florida, May 6 2022 3) 24 September 2022. 7:32 PM EDT launch from Florida on a northeasterly ascent. Civil twilight is 7:41 PM.
Analysis: Based upon a small sample size of two it appears that for a launch up to around nautical twilight a jellyfish event is possible. Later is better in that it makes the sky darker. In the two cases above the rocket is heading towards orbital daylight. On 18 September from Florida and a post-sunset launch, the rocket may be heading towards Earth's shadow. It would be better if I had ascent trajectory data (longitude, latitude, altitude as a function of time) |
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is this launching northeasterly?
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Webcast is starting
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Will the link from 9/16 work?
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ARFCOM Philosophy--Do you consider the magazine half full or half empty?
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Originally Posted By Yea-Right: Will the link from 9/16 work? View Quote Starlink Mission |
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“There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens.”
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
I'm never going to get tired of these launches.
ETA: And it's always going to seem surreal watching SpaceX launch Starlink sats into orbit via a live stream on my Starlink service. The future is amazing. |
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No jellyfish 😔
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nailed it
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