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Link Posted: 7/24/2023 4:33:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 12:24:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#2]
Mission:   Falcon Heavy, Jupiter 3/Echostar 24

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket will launch the Jupiter 3/EchoStar 24 broadband communications satellite. Built by Maxar, Jupiter 3/EchoStar 24 is a Ka-band high-throughput ultra high density satellite for EchoStar’s Hughes Network Systems. Jupiter 3/EchoStar 24 will support in-flight WiFi, maritime connections, enterprise networks, backhaul for mobile network operators, and community WiFi solutions across the Americas."    SpaceFlightNow source

"This satellite will be the heaviest payload ever launched to geostationary transfer orbit. The satellite, built by Maxar, weighs in at 9,200 kg (20,282 lbs) and features 14 solar arrays that, once deployed, will span 127 feet. The satellite will be able to handle 500+ gigabytes of capacity and provide speeds up to 100 megabytes per second. The satellite’s final orbit will be at 95 degrees west latitude and 22,300 miles above the equator over the Americas."

2)  Launch window:   11:04 PM - 12:43 AM EDT (28/29 July 2023)    

3)  Launch Site:   LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  East

5)  Webcast viewing options:

a.   SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   SpaceX support ship Doug departed Port Canaveral overnight and is heading downrange to recover the fairing halves for the upcoming Jupiter 3 (Falcon Heavy) launch.

b.  Satellite:   Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com





c.  Ready for launch:  

 
Credit:  NASASpaceFlight

d.  Navigation warning:


8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover side boosters on land.     Center core expended in the ocean

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:09   Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:22   Side boosters engine cutoff (BECO)
00:02:25   Side boosters separate
00:02:44   Side boosters boostback burns begin
00:03:49   Side boosters boostback burns end
00:03:52   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:03:55   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:04:01   2nd stage engine starts (SES)
00:04:16   Fairing deployment
00:06:20   Side boosters entry burns start
00:06:36   Side boosters entry burns end
00:07:20   Side boosters landing burns start
00:07:34   Side boosters landing
00:08:23   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:26:25   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:27:59   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
03:22:01   2nd stage engine starts (SES-3)
03:22:26   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-3)
03:28:39   JUPITER 3 deploys

10)  Orbit insertion:  Geosynchronous transfer orbit.     One source states that the third second stage burn will raise the perigee (low point of the orbit).
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 3:01:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#3]
Dupe post
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 6:04:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 10:31:45 PM EDT
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I love the heavy launches.  
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Me too!
I'm really looking forward to this!
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 10:37:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Me too!
I'm really looking forward to this!
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I love the heavy launches.  
Me too!
I'm really looking forward to this!



Don't we all?

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 10:51:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Web cast live!

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:03:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Abort.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:04:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#9]
My guess is that it was the starting capacitor.  Replace them before they fail.

They do have a 99 minute launch window.

Scrub for the night
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:08:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, that sucks.

Probably one of Hunter's attorneys calling in as a SpaceX engineer scrubbing the flight.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:11:44 PM EDT
[#11]
I suspect that the 1020 PM EDT launch of a Starlink mission tomorrow night will be delayed.  Priority should be to the paying customer.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:13:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
I suspect that the 1020 PM EDT launch of a Starlink mission tomorrow night will be delayed.  Priority should be to the paying customer.
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Is it flying on heavy? Or the same pad?
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:38:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:55:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#14]
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Originally Posted By Mickdog13:
Is it flying on heavy? Or the same pad?
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Falcon 9, Starlink 6-7 on SLC 40.   I just do not know if they can support two launches that close together but we shall find out.

As of 2:38 PM EDT, 27 July 2023 both still show up as going tonight on the SpaceX website.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 4:54:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 7:26:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#16]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-7

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:   10:20 11:10 PM 12:01 AM EDT (28 July 2023).    

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing options:

a.   SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Departure! ASOG droneship got underway overnight to support Starlink 6-7.

SpaceX has hired in a temp tug - Signet Titan - to tow ASOG. This allows SpaceX to keep up the Starlink launch rate whilst also sending recovery assets elsewhere to support a Falcon Heavy mission in-between.

b.  Satellites:

File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:  


d.  Navigation warning:



8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG.

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of Peak Mechanical Stress on the Rocket)
00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:38 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:04 Fairing deployment
00:06:09 1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:31 1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:04 1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:25 1st stage landing
00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:08 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:10 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:17 Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   299 x 339 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:28:14 PM EDT
[#17]
probably a scrub tonight with the low pressure center right over the Cape/KSC.

Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:30:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Bump for tonight's possible launch
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:40:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:42:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
probably a scrub tonight with the low pressure center right over the Cape/KSC.

https://i.imgur.com/4NmLImh.gif
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
probably a scrub tonight with the low pressure center right over the Cape/KSC.

https://i.imgur.com/4NmLImh.gif


I have nothing official but they called Phase 1 lightning when I left about an hour ago.


Phase-1 Lightning Watch’ means lightning is expected within the specified area. The ‘Phase-1 Lightning Watch’ is issued up to 30 minutes before the forecast onset of lightning. Although lightning has yet to strike, conditions are developing for dangerous lightning soon.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 11:55:14 PM EDT
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Music started
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 12:10:28 AM EDT
[#22]
Bullseye.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 12:12:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 5:59:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:26:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#25]

Starlink 6-7 launch with Falcon Heavy/Jupiter 3 on the launch pad.
Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

Link Posted: 7/28/2023 12:06:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
probably a scrub tonight with the low pressure center right over the Cape/KSC.

https://i.imgur.com/4NmLImh.gif
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Pffft,  Ironman Rescue launched in the eye of a hurricane.  ;)
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:09:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/assets/56360.0/2201472.jpg
Starlink 6-7 launch with Falcon Heavy/Jupiter 3 on the launch pad.
Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2GXKCybUAA5yxX?format=jpg&name=small
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@AmericanPeople

Do you know the planned launch direction of the Jupiter 3 mission?

My daughter is down there tonight. She'll see it take off, but if that thing tracks over my home state of AL, I'd love to step out and try and see it.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:11:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#28]
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Originally Posted By Flysc:
@AmericanPeople

Do you know the planned launch direction of the Jupiter 3 mission?

My daughter is down there tonight. She'll see it take off, but if that thing tracks over my home state of AL, I'd love to step out and try and see it.
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Due east (plus or minus a degree or so that she won't notice).

In the future if I don't see it or someone else does not answer, I put that information in the detailed description:  

4)  Launch direction:  East

I usually have a launch warning graph that provides that information graphically but I did not find one for this flight.

It will not go over Alabama.

Here are important times after launch

00:02:22   Side boosters engine cutoff (BECO)
00:02:25   Side boosters separate
00:02:44   Side boosters boostback burns begin.      Flame facing away from observer.  May require binoculars to see.
00:03:49   Side boosters boostback burns end

00:03:52   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:03:55   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:04:01   2nd stage engine starts (SES)

00:06:20   Side boosters entry burns start.     Look up about 60 degrees since it should be close to land.
00:06:36   Side boosters entry burns end


00:07:20   Side boosters landing burns start
 Might also be visible.    
00:07:34   Side boosters landing
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:12:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Flysc:


@AmericanPeople

Do you know the planned launch direction of the Jupiter 3 mission?

My daughter is down there tonight. She'll see it take off, but if that thing tracks over my home state of AL, I'd love to step out and try and see it.
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East.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:12:59 PM EDT
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Still waiting for more info on the whereabouts of the Jupiter II  …. and Billy Mumy.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 9:19:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


Due east (plus or minus a degree or so that she won't notice).

In the future if I don't see it or someone else does not answer, I put that information in the detailed description:  

4)  Launch direction:  East

I usually have a launch warning graph that provides that information graphically but I did not find one for this flight.

It will not go over Alabama.
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Originally Posted By Flysc:
@AmericanPeople

Do you know the planned launch direction of the Jupiter 3 mission?

My daughter is down there tonight. She'll see it take off, but if that thing tracks over my home state of AL, I'd love to step out and try and see it.


Due east (plus or minus a degree or so that she won't notice).

In the future if I don't see it or someone else does not answer, I put that information in the detailed description:  

4)  Launch direction:  East

I usually have a launch warning graph that provides that information graphically but I did not find one for this flight.

It will not go over Alabama.


Bummer, but thanks.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 10:44:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Did they say why Wednesdays launch was scrubbed?
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 10:50:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Space X music started on their site and a bump
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 10:52:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Web cast live - hopefully it will launch.

Link Posted: 7/28/2023 10:55:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By johnh57:
Did they say why Wednesdays launch was scrubbed?
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Stuck valve.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:07:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Boosters on their way home!
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:12:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Never not be cool
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:12:51 PM EDT
[#38]
nailed 'em
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:13:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:14:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:14:48 PM EDT
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Last heavy launch was a clear night and I followed it all the way up with binos from Ft Lauderdale.

Too many clouds tonight, though. Still an impressively successful launch.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:24:26 PM EDT
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Concur.

Amazing times we live in.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:25:52 PM EDT
[#43]
HughesNet still sucks ass...
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:28:22 PM EDT
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Can someone explain why they cant recover the main stage again?  Launched it too deep into space so it just floats away?
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:38:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:39:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blu3Ridge:
Can someone explain why they cant recover the main stage again?  Launched it too deep into space so it just floats away?
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The recovery requires some fuel for the turn around and then for the landing.

But they needed to use ALL of the fuel for the payload which was the heaviest ever launched to a geo-sync orbit.

So it that case, they just and charge the customer for it.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:41:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:43:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Only got a few good glimpses here because of clouds. Saw both entry burns really well, though.
Link Posted: 7/28/2023 11:44:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blu3Ridge:
Can someone explain why they cant recover the main stage again?  Launched it too deep into space so it just floats away?
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it doesn't make it to space.  it will splash down into the ocean down range.  the issue is that they don't have enough fuel left after separating from stage 2 to be able to a controlled and powered descent to the landing barge.
Link Posted: 7/29/2023 12:11:04 AM EDT
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I'm tickled that they went ahead on the launch. My kids were down to see it. Spoke to them. To say they were in awe is an understatement.

I got a little choked up listening to the excitement of my eight year old grandson and his little sister.  I was his age during Apolo. Knowing my kids got see a glimpse of the America i grew up in was emotional. Almost like seeing a dead loved one resurrected. That spirit. My sasquatch-like SIL was jabbering on like a little boy himself.

Phone pic my daughter sent:

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