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Posted: 5/2/2023 2:14:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Supposed to be clear, but I'm not getting up for it.
Screws me up for the rest of the day. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2023 5:57:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Supposed to be clear, but I'm not getting up for it. Screws me up for the rest of the day. I probably won't either. If you don't see this Starlink launch...wait a week for another. Possibly one on 8 May. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 6:19:41 PM EDT
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pretty cool video
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Posted: 5/2/2023 6:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: pretty cool video
Insane! That gives a pretty good idea on what the Shuttle would go through. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2023 6:34:40 PM EDT
[#5]
I wonder if those fairings will be reusable.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 8:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: pretty cool video
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2023 10:38:57 AM EDT
[#7]
The Starlink 5-6 mission was a success.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:11:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#8]
I saw the train (line of close satellites) from the Starlink 5-6 launch last evening and they were naked eye objects.
www.heavens-above.com |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 4:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#9]
Here is the boat with the fairing halves from the Falcon Heavy launch. They look dark as if burned/scorched.
Look at the video in the tweet in Post #3 above.  Credit: Kyle Montgomery@Kyle_M_Photo. Doug is currently just a few miles offshore waiting for some traffic to clear before it brings in its super toasty fairing from the Falcon Heavy launch #SpaceX #FalconHeavy #SpaceXFleet |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 4:53:08 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm trying to understand how those fairings survive reentry. They look like just white fiberglass. Are they made of heat shield material or is there some other factor in play here?
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 4:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: I'm trying to understand how those fairings survive reentry. They look like just white fiberglass. Are they made of heat shield material or is there some other factor in play here? I have no idea but these returned to Earth from about twice the normal height. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Here is the boat with the fairing halves from the Falcon Heavy launch. They look dark as if burned/scorched. Look at the video in the tweet in Post #3 above. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvYxADiWYAQgrgo?format=jpg&name=900x900 Credit: Kyle Montgomery@Kyle_M_Photo. Doug is currently just a few miles offshore waiting for some traffic to clear before it brings in its super toasty fairing from the Falcon Heavy launch #SpaceX #FalconHeavy #SpaceXFleet they don't look as bad as I though they would. I was expecting them to be all black, but you can see they're still "white". |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: I'm trying to understand how those fairings survive reentry. They look like just white fiberglass. Are they made of heat shield material or is there some other factor in play here?
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: I have no idea but these returned to Earth from about twice the normal height. While I understand this launch required all the boosters to be expended to put its payload into geo stationary orbit, why did the fairings have to remain with the rocket above the height that they usually jettison them for LEO launches? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:55:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkGray: While I understand this launch required all the boosters to be expended to put its payload into geo stationary orbit, why did the fairings have to remain with the rocket above the height that they usually jettison them for LEO launches? Again I do not know but the fairings are always jettisoned after the second stage separates from the first stage. Perhaps there is a collision avoidance issue. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:59:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2023 6:10:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2023 6:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Again I do not know but the fairings are always jettisoned after the second stage separates from the first stage. Perhaps there is a collision avoidance issue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Again I do not know but the fairings are always jettisoned after the second stage separates from the first stage. Perhaps there is a collision avoidance issue. That would make sense, I admittedly am not sure how soon they were jettisoned after stage sep. Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvZXI6oWcAI87TC?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Those look much better than I was expecting. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 6:49:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkGray: Those look much better than I was expecting. Same here. I was expecting something much more crispy. Still, this was a hell of a flight. Even with expending the entire rocket it does not feel like there was much margin for error. All delivered at much less cost than any other American launch provider could have bid... |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 12:45:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkGray: That would make sense, I admittedly am not sure how soon they were jettisoned after stage sep. Those look much better than I was expecting. Look at my detailed discussion of each mission. Flight event timing is towards the bottom. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 10:41:45 AM EDT
[#21]
 Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. 8 May 2023. It's a rare sight to see all of SpaceX's East Coast recovery fleet together these days with such a busy launch schedule. Here's a photo from this morning from http://nsf.live to capture the scene at Port Canaveral |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2023 5:46:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#22]
Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 2-9
1) Background info: Source "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V1.5 internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean." 2) Launch window: 1:09 PM PDT (10 May 2023). 3) Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California 4) Launch direction: South southeasterly 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff) b. YouTube:  Starlink Mission 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. 8 May 2023. Of Course I Still Love You droneship departed from Long Beach last night to support the upcoming SpaceX Starlink 2-9 mission. b. Satellites: See previous Starlink discussions. c. Ready for launch:  Credit: Jack Beyer d. Navigation warning:  Raul@Raul74Cz. LHA map for #Starlink Group 2-9 from VSFB SLC-4E NET 10 May 20:09 UTC, alternatively 11 to 16 May based on issued NOTAM/NOTMARs. B1075.3 planned landing with estimated fairing recovery 660 km downrange. Stage 2 debris reentry in South Pacific. 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship OCISLY 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:30 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:36 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:02:41 Fairing deployment 00:06:42 1st stage entry burn begins 00:07:01 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:20 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:40 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:08:43 1st stage landing 00:17:21 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: Starlink Shell 2; 570 km circular 70° low-Earth Orbit (LEO), initial orbit 222 x 330 km orbit at 70º inclination. Source |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 7:34:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey]
[#23]
 VAST ANNOUNCES THE HAVEN-1 AND VAST-1 MISSIONS |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 7:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS_afVESUwIAnother step to Mars. Amazing. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 1:13:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS_afVESUwI
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 1:24:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Very cool. I have wanted something to supplement the ISS for years now. Hope it works out.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 3:31:11 PM EDT
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https://www.spacex.com/updates/index.html May 10, 2023 SPACEX TO LAUNCH VAST’S COMMERCIAL SPACE STATION AND FIRST HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT MISSION Vast announced today that SpaceX will launch what is expected to be the world’s first commercial space station, known as Vast Haven-1, quickly followed by two human spaceflight missions to said space station. Scheduled to launch on a Falcon 9 rocket to low-Earth orbit no earlier than August 2025. Haven-1 will be a fully-functional independent space station and eventually be connected as a module to a larger Vast space station currently in development. Upon launch of Haven-1, Falcon 9 will launch Vast’s first human spaceflight mission to the commercial space station, Vast-1. Dragon and its four-person crew will dock with Haven-1 for up to 30 days while orbiting Earth. Vast also secured an option for an additional human spaceflight mission to the station aboard a Dragon spacecraft. The Vast-1 crew selection process is underway and the crew will be announced at a future date. Once finalized, SpaceX will provide crew training on Falcon 9 and the Dragon spacecraft, emergency preparedness, spacesuit and spacecraft ingress and egress exercises, as well as partial and full mission simulations including docking and undocking for return to Earth. Vast’s long-term goal is to develop a 100-meter-long multi-module spinning artificial gravity space station launched by SpaceX’s Starship transportation system. In support of this, Vast will explore conducting the world’s first spinning artificial gravity experiment on a commercial space station with Haven-1. This new partnership between Vast and SpaceX will continue to create and accelerate greater accessibility to space and more opportunities for exploration on the road to making humanity multiplanetary. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:04:39 PM EDT
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Webcast is live.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:18:55 PM EDT
[#29]
nailed it
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:19:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:29:18 PM EDT
[#31]
It just occurred to me while watching today's launch that I don't know what they do with the 2nd stages of these star link launches. Do they make them burn up in reentry? Is there an orbiting Spacex spare parts junk yard where they park all the 2nd stages?
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:35:27 PM EDT
[#32]
It looked as if were going to miss the barge.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:44:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: It just occurred to me while watching today's launch that I don't know what they do with the 2nd stages of these star link launches. Do they make them burn up in reentry? Is there an orbiting Spacex spare parts junk yard where they park all the 2nd stages? reentry area 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 4:52:23 PM EDT
[#34]
So they just plop the 2nd stage into the ocean. Too bad they can't recover them like they do the fairings.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 5:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: So they just plop the 2nd stage into the ocean. Too bad they can't recover them like they do the fairings. It was considered. Adding thermal tiles to the upper stage. Perhaps even landing them like the first stage. But it was judged to be more trouble than it was worth. Rocket Lab is going with a disposable second stage to go with their upcoming reusable Neutron rocket and of course the plan with Starship is to be completely reusable once it’s development cycle is complete. Though they have built some disposable upper stages at Boca Chica. Bringing something back from orbital velocities is a heck of a technical challenge. The thermal protection system on Starship is much simplified from what they had on the Shuttle and it’s still a mess. What they had on the Shuttle... well... to call it an imperfect and high maintenance system would be quite an understatement. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:17:54 PM EDT
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:41:08 AM EDT
[#37]
Double droneship landing?
Groovy. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 8:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Double droneship landing? Groovy. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 11:37:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: That is going to be worth watching! I hope that they have video from a short distance showing both landing. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:28:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#40]
SpaceX’s Falcon rocket family reaches 200 straight successful missions
"SpaceX’s launch of 51 more Starlink internet satellites Wednesday from California marked the 200th consecutive successful mission for the company’s Falcon rocket family, a record unmatched by any other space launch vehicle. The string of successes dates back to September 2016, when a Falcon 9 rocket exploded on a launch pad during pre-flight testing at Cape Canaveral, destroying the launch vehicle and an Israeli communications satellite already mounted on top of the rocket. Looking further back, SpaceX has logged 209 straight Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches since an in-flight rocket failure."  Photo from SpaceFlightNow.com |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 5:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 5-9
1) Background info: Source "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V1.5 internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." 2) Launch window: 1:03:50 AM EDT (14 May 2023). 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida 4) Launch direction: East-southeasterly 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff) b. YouTube:  Starlink Mission 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.
Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. May 10. Departure! Just Read the Instructions droneship is outbound to support the Starlink 5-9 mission. Tug Crosby Skipper is towing.  Crosby Skipper + JRTI depart PC @ 7:43am ET (10 May 2023). Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: No change from previous missions. c. Ready for launch:  Tom McCool@Cygnusx112. Falcon 9 is vertical on the pad for the Starlink launch in about 15 hours. d. Navigation warning:   Raul@Raul74Cz. LHA map for #Starlink Group 5-9 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 14 May 04:58 UTC, alternatively 15 to 20 May based on issued NOTAM/NOTMARs. Booster landing with fairing recovery approximately 660km downrange. S2 debris reentry area south of Cape Town. 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship JRTI 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:28 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:31 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:38 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:02:46 Fairing deployment 00:06:13 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:32 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:08 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:29 1st stage landing 00:08:36 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:05 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:07 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:04:53 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: 298 x 340 kilometers at 43 degree inclination. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 12:59:50 AM EDT
[#42]
Webcast is live.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 1:06:31 AM EDT
[#43]
Cloudy here.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 1:12:29 AM EDT
[#44]
Bullseye.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 8:07:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: SpaceX's Falcon rocket family reaches 200 straight successful missions "SpaceX's launch of 51 more Starlink internet satellites Wednesday from California marked the 200th consecutive successful mission for the company's Falcon rocket family, a record unmatched by any other space launch vehicle. The string of successes dates back to September 2016, when a Falcon 9 rocket exploded on a launch pad during pre-flight testing at Cape Canaveral, destroying the launch vehicle and an Israeli communications satellite already mounted on top of the rocket. Looking further back, SpaceX has logged 209 straight Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches since an in-flight rocket failure." https://spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/20230510star2-9.jpeg Photo from SpaceFlightNow.com 
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Posted: 5/14/2023 12:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Bullseye. Still not boring. |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 1:46:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Still not boring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Bullseye. Still not boring. I love living in the future. Best, JBR |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 6:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Still not boring. Don't miss the drone recovery ship double header on a Falcon Heavy launch soon. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#49]
Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-3
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of second-generation Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch window: 1:31 AM EDT (19 May 2023). 3) Launch Site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 5 minutes before liftoff) b. YouTube:  Starlink Mission 6) Observation comments: None. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out: Not found. b. Satellites:  A side-by-side comparison of the Starlink V1.5 and the Starlink V2 Mini satellites. Credit: SpaceX / Spaceflight Now c. Ready for launch:  Credit: SpaceFlightNow.com d. Navigation warning:   Credit: Raul@Raul74Cz. LHA map for #Starlink Group 6-3 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 19 May 04:30 UTC, alternatively 20 to 25 May based on issued NOTAM/NOTMARs. B1076.5 planned landing 637km downrange. Estimated fairing recovery ~681m downrange. S2 reentry areas in Indian Ocean. 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship ASOG. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:30 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:37 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:06 Fairing deployment 00:06:10 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:30 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:00 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:23 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:16 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:18 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:04:56 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: 530 km circular low-Earth orbit at 43 degrees inclination. Insertion orbit 314 x 323 km at 43 degrees |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:03:16 PM EDT
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