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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:34:10 AM EDT
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That was launch #61 this year and ties the record set in 2022.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:52:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:

I haven't been out to the desert to watch meteors, view planets, etc. since the StarLink launches started.  I'm curious but not eager to see how they have changed the viewing.  The Perseid meteors should be good this year, other than possible satellite debacles.
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No way you can mistake a Starlink for a meteor. The difference in velocity will make it very apparent.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 11:47:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By webtaz99:

No way you can mistake a Starlink for a meteor. The difference in velocity will make it very apparent.
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Originally Posted By webtaz99:
Originally Posted By California_Kid:

I haven't been out to the desert to watch meteors, view planets, etc. since the StarLink launches started.  I'm curious but not eager to see how they have changed the viewing.  The Perseid meteors should be good this year, other than possible satellite debacles.

No way you can mistake a Starlink for a meteor. The difference in velocity will make it very apparent.

I have no doubt about that.  I've seen satellites innumerable times.  You can't avoid seeing them any night in the dark desert sky.  My concern is the effect on astrophotography in general.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 11:50:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
That was launch #61 this year and ties the record set in 2022.
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Exceeding the proposed launch cadence of the Shuttle.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:20:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Exceeding the proposed launch cadence of the Shuttle.
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Those were BS claims.  
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 3:18:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 3:30:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


Those were BS claims.  
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Exceeding the proposed launch cadence of the Shuttle.


Those were BS claims.  


They were.

And now things have changed to the point where those bs claims have been overtaken by reality.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 4:08:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#8]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-12

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:  7:25 9:56 10:47 PM EDT (3 September 2023).  If needed, five additional opportunities are available starting at 8:15 p.m. ET (00:15 UTC on September 4) until 11:05 p.m. ET (03:05 UTC).     One source has the following backup launch times:  8:15 PM, 9:06 PM, 9:56 PM, 10:47 PM and 11:05 PM EDT.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-39A, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:


SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-12 Mission


6)  Observation comments: Sunset: 7:43 PM EDT.   Civil Twilight: 8:07 PM EDT.  Nautical twilight:  8:35 PM EDT

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.



b.  Satellites:

File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:



d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship JRTI

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:24 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:27 1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:34 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:02 Fairing deployment
00:06:04 1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:31 1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:00 1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:24 1st stage landing
00:08:35 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:05 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:06 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:14 Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 5:26:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:

I have no doubt about that.  I've seen satellites innumerable times.  You can't avoid seeing them any night in the dark desert sky.  My concern is the effect on astrophotography in general.
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Originally Posted By webtaz99:
Originally Posted By California_Kid:

I haven't been out to the desert to watch meteors, view planets, etc. since the StarLink launches started.  I'm curious but not eager to see how they have changed the viewing.  The Perseid meteors should be good this year, other than possible satellite debacles.

No way you can mistake a Starlink for a meteor. The difference in velocity will make it very apparent.

I have no doubt about that.  I've seen satellites innumerable times.  You can't avoid seeing them any night in the dark desert sky.  My concern is the effect on astrophotography in general.
@California_Kid

I do a lot of amateur astrophotography and yes, it is almost impossible to get through a night's imaging session without getting satellite and aircraft trails in a few of the images.
While those trails are certainly not desirable, fortunately in the image stacking software there are routines that are specifically written to deal with and remove those unwanted pixels.
https://telescope.live/blog/removing-satellite-trails-during-stacking

Here is a .gif I made of one of my telescopes doing an 8-hour tracking imaging session one night - it certainly captures what zipping through sky and all the light pollution.


Link Posted: 9/3/2023 8:55:42 PM EDT
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SpaceX has ended using YouTube to broadcast their launch coverage.  It is now on Twitter.  I will no longer provide that link (I don't even know it now) and will instead link a NASASpaceFlight YouTube link.

I don't know what their coverage is like.  Hopefully it is not multiple people expressing an opinion on everything.
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:18:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:20:53 PM EDT
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NSF coverage if you don't want to watch SpaceX on X
SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-12 Mission
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:43:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:52:04 PM EDT
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Not having the broadcast on YT really sucks in a huge number of ways
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:54:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion:
Not having the broadcast on YT really sucks in a huge number of ways
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yep
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:56:14 PM EDT
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Good landing.

And yeah not doing things through YouTube seems like a dumb move.
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:56:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion:
Not having the broadcast on YT really sucks in a huge number of ways
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Go to the NSF link provided and mute the audio.
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 10:59:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#18]
It looks like California may see the post deorbit burn venting from the second stage.  I will provide data here and in a separate thread.

1)  San Francisco.  Rise at azimuth 294 degrees at 9:12:40 PM PDT

Max elevation near the end of the handle of the Big Dipper at 9:16:50 PM. Azimuth 300 degrees, elevation 35 degrees and it enters shadow in seconds.

2)  Sacramento.  Rise at 291 degrees at 9:12:50 PM.

Max elevation at 284 degrees azimuth and 31 degrees elevation at 9:16:10 PM near Arcturus.  Shadow entry in seconds.

3)  Fresno.  Rise at azimuth 296 degrees at 9:13:10 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 298 degrees, elevation 21 degrees

4)  Lompoc.  Rise at azimuth 302 degrees at 9:13:20 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 317 degrees, elevation 18 degrees

5)  Los Angeles.  Rise at azimuth 303 degrees at 9:13:50 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 312 degrees, elevation 13 degrees
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 11:04:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/3/2023 11:25:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
SpaceX has ended using YouTube to broadcast their launch coverage.  It is now on Twitter.  I will no longer provide that link (I don't even know it now) and will instead link a NASASpaceFlight YouTube link.

I don't know what their coverage is like.  Hopefully it is not multiple people expressing an opinion on everything.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
NSF coverage if you don't want to watch SpaceX on X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqg4WWYl9E8
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The NSF coverage was quite good tonight.  One videographer caught the rocket transiting the Moon.  Very spectacular.  He planned his shot well, and got lucky that the launch happened as scheduled.  Start at 39:10 in the link Chokey posted, and I see he also posted an excellent still above.
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 11:29:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/3/2023 11:33:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
It looks like California may see the post deorbit burn venting from the second stage.  I will provide data here and in a separate thread.

1)  San Francisco.  Rise at azimuth 294 degrees at 9:12:40 PM PDT

Max elevation near the end of the handle of the Big Dipper at 9:16:50 PM. Azimuth 300 degrees, elevation 35 degrees and it enters shadow in seconds.

2)  Sacramento.  Rise at 291 degrees at 9:12:50 PM.

Max elevation at 284 degrees azimuth and 31 degrees elevation at 9:16:10 PM near Arcturus.  Shadow entry in seconds.

3)  Fresno.  Rise at azimuth 296 degrees at 9:13:10 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 298 degrees, elevation 21 degrees

4)  Lompoc.  Rise at azimuth 302 degrees at 9:13:20 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 317 degrees, elevation 18 degrees

5)  Los Angeles.  Rise at azimuth 303 degrees at 9:13:50 PM PDT.
Max elevation at 9:16:10 PM at azimuth 312 degrees, elevation 13 degrees
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I'd love to see that some time, but this evening it's totally overcast in my area.  But the weather is nice.
Link Posted: 9/4/2023 12:00:51 AM EDT
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Me, when the camera turns towards all the guys behind the triple monitor setups in SpaceX mission control:

Link Posted: 9/4/2023 12:18:52 AM EDT
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Good splashdown on Crew-6.
Link Posted: 9/4/2023 12:24:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Good splashdown on Crew-6.
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We heard the sonic boom of the reentry up here in N Fla.

(At least that what we think it was…)
Link Posted: 9/4/2023 12:25:19 AM EDT
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Got to see the Dragon coming in.

I got video.
SpaceX Dragon Endeavour returning from the ISS with Crew-6

Link Posted: 9/4/2023 12:28:06 AM EDT
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Incredible IR imagery.
Link Posted: 9/4/2023 10:23:38 PM EDT
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That was the most spectacular looking event that I have seen in the sky
Link Posted: 9/6/2023 5:54:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#29]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-14

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:    7:56 11:12 PM EDT.  Backup launch times at 11:12 PM and 11:30 PM EDT.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

https://www.youtube.com/@NASASpaceflight

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-14 Mission


6)  Observation comments: Sunset: 7:37 PM EDT.   Civil Twilight: 8:01 PM EDT.  Nautical twilight:  8:29 PM EDT

A launch at 7:56 PM EDT might be conducive to jellyfish sightings.

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Dual ship view.    
ASOG is underway from Port Canaveral for Starlink 6-14, meanwhile, Doug is inbound from supporting 6-12 and 6-13.

Quick turnaround for Doug.  Drop off some fairing halves then right back out.

Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.  Departure! Doug is back to sea to support Starlink 6-14.   This ship is working double shifts with twin Bob in a shipyard for work

b.  Satellites:


File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:


d.  Navigation warning:  


8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:26   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:36   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:03   Fairing deployment
00:06:09   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:31   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:01   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:35   1st stage landing
00:08:39   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:04   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:06   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:14   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 294 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/6/2023 6:16:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Master_of_Orion:
Got to see the Dragon coming in.

I got video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3VupHcCi7c
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That’s so cool! Where in FL were you?
Link Posted: 9/6/2023 7:26:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2023 10:13:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#32]
Starlink 6-14 is set to launch at 11:12 PM EDT (8 September 2023) if conditions permit.
Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:02:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Is SpaceX not doing a stream on youtube?  Or am I just too dumb to find it?  
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just on X now
Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:05:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Is SpaceX not doing a stream on youtube?  Or am I just too dumb to find it?  
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Here is a substitute.  The NSF link is new.  The base link is   https://www.youtube.com/@NASASpaceflight then you find the upcoming launch.  I just added the YouTube link to my detailed description moments ago.

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-14 Mission


I have to mute the commentary.
Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:05:45 PM EDT
[#36]
you can watch NSF on youtube thougj

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-14 Mission
Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:09:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:09:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2023 11:11:43 PM EDT
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Is one of the lightning tower collision lights out?   Or hidden by the tower?
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 9:14:22 AM EDT
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Best Space X launch broadcast I've heard so far.

Jay
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 8:28:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#41]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Starlink 7-2

1)  Mission description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink Version 2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean." Source

2)  Launch window:    11:57 PM PDT  (11 September 2023).   If needed, four backup opportunities are available on Tuesday, September 12 starting at 12:48 a.m. PT (07:48 UTC) until 3:20 a.m. PT (10:20 UTC).

3)  Launch site:   SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

4)  Launch direction:   South southeasterly

5)  Webcast viewing options:


NSF.  Click on the link then look for the upcoming launch

6)  Observation comments:    None

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.  OCISLY droneship and support ship GO Beyond are well underway from the next West Coast Starlink mission - NET Sep 12.

b.  Satellites:  See previous Starlink discussions.

c.  Ready for launch:


d.  Navigation warning:


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Drone ship OCISLY

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.

00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:03 Fairing deployment
00:06:19 1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:42 1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:09 1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:30 1st stage landing
00:08:38 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:53:24 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:26 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:02:19 Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit destination:  286 x 287 kilometers, 53 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 8:40:26 AM EDT
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Starlink 7-2 was a success.
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 8:43:45 AM EDT
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Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-14

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:  11:38 PM EDT (15 September 2023).    If needed, an additional opportunity is available at 12:07 a.m. (04:07 UTC) on Saturday, September 16.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

Select the appropriate webcast from this source

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-16 Mission


6)  Observation comments:   None.

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Crosby Skipper + JRTI departed Port Canaveral on Sep 11 @ 8:13pm ET
Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com by poster realnouns


Credit:  Gav Cornwel@SpaceOffshore.  Just Read the Instructions droneship is underway from Florida for Starlink 6-16. Tug Crosby Skipper towing.

b.  Satellites:

File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:


d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship JRTI

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:25   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:36   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:03   Fairing deployment
00:06:08   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:32   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:04   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:26   1st stage landing
00:08:39   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:01   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:03   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:11   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 294 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 12:34:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:14:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#45]
The SpaceX website does not show tonight's launch as of 1:13 PM EDT on 14 September 2023, and it was shown earlier today.

It is back as of 2:17 PM EDT.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:50:14 PM EDT
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Update: SpaceX has scrubbed tonight’s planned Starlink launch and rescheduled for Friday night at 11:38 p.m. EDT (0338 UTC). The company was keeping watch on the weather in the booster recovery zone, where seas had been churned up by Hurricane Lee. Also, as of 7:45 p.m. EDT (2345 UTC) the Falcon 9 was not upright at the launch pad.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:02:53 PM EDT
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Update: SpaceX has scrubbed tonight’s planned Starlink launch and rescheduled for Friday night at 11:38 p.m. EDT (0338 UTC). The company was keeping watch on the weather in the booster recovery zone, where seas had been churned up by Hurricane Lee. Also, as of 7:45 p.m. EDT (2345 UTC) the Falcon 9 was not upright at the launch pad.
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Thanks for that !
I do know the seas are very rough right now, so it's a given.
Great weather here though.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:11:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:14:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:16:03 PM EDT
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Thanks Chokey.
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