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Posted: 12/25/2023 9:47:03 PM EDT
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it happened close to the port
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Posted: 12/26/2023 8:49:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: it happened close to the port
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCO7DEYWAAAFVjf?format=jpg&name=large It fell over in rough seas last night. Not sure if it laying on the deck of JRTI or if it fell in to the ocean. I guess we will find out soon enough. RIP B1058-19. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 8:50:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hadrian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: RIP B1058-19.  |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 8:55:18 AM EDT
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From the location of JTRI right now and Kurt J Crosby, that water is quite shallow. Maybe 70-90 feet.
If the booster went over the side, SpaceX will have to fish it out. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2023 11:22:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCSE9IdWIAAZXqX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Well at least it didn't sink. No grid fins visible either. Top half break off ??? |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:11:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:29:18 PM EDT
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Octagrabber is TOAST.
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:40:25 PM EDT
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Confused. Wasn't JRTI retired?
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blu3Ridge: Confused. Wasn't JRTI retired? uh, no, it was moved from the West Coast to the East Coast a few years ago. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:48:22 PM EDT
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What did B1058 have on the Clintons?
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Posted: 12/26/2023 1:35:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2023 3:03:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2023 3:30:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2023 8:42:33 PM EDT
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Super disappointing and sad to lose booster 1058. Tippy boosters occur when you get a certain set of landing conditions that lead to the legs having uneven loading. Heavy wind or sea state then cause the booster to teeter and slide which can lead to even worse leg loading. In this state, securing with the OG is super challenging and often only partial successful We came up with self leveling legs that immediately equalize leg loads on landing after experiencing a severe tippy booster two years ago on Christmas (first flight of 1069). The fleet is mostly outfitted, but 1058, given its age, was not. It met its fate when it hit intense wind and waves resulting in failure of a partially secured OG less than 100 miles from home. One thing is for sure… we will make lemonade out of lemons and learn as much as possible from historic 1058 on our path to aircraft like operations. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 8:55:21 PM EDT
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Looks like one or two engine nozzles are toast.
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Posted: 12/26/2023 10:20:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Looks like one or two engine nozzles are toast. I counted 4 engine bells that had damage. That means they took a strike or a blow of some sort and they will all have to be torn down and inspected, not just the 4 I saw, all 9 of them will have to go through the tear down and micrometer process (which is normally done on refurbs after every flight). It would not be surprise at all if more than 4 failed inspection after tear down. The Merlin's are fantastic engines but they are not small block Chevy's. The tolerance levels do not have 'wiggle room' as you might expect. Anything less than 100% GO will not be accepted. |
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Posted: 12/26/2023 10:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: I counted 4 engine bells that had damage. That means they took a strike or a blow of some sort and they will all have to be torn down and inspected, not just the 4 I saw, all 9 of them will have to go through the tear down and micrometer process (which is normally done on refurbs after every flight). It would not be surprise at all if more than 4 failed inspection after tear down. The Merlin's are fantastic engines but they are not small block Chevy's. The tolerance levels do not have 'wiggle room' as you might expect. Anything less than 100% GO will not be accepted. Can they be recycled? All I know about what they are made of is that its some kind of alloy of Hafnium and Niobium and other things. Tough and expensive stuff. |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 7:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Can they be recycled? All I know about what they are made of is that its some kind of alloy of Hafnium and Niobium and other things. Tough and expensive stuff. I don't know, I would imagine that a good portion of the metal will be going to a recycler of some sort. As for the exotic metals I have no idea how they would go about reclaiming them. Probably some sort of smelting process. Check this company out. https://www.exotech.com/metals/hafnium |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 7:59:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Super disappointing and sad to lose booster 1058. Tippy boosters occur when you get a certain set of landing conditions that lead to the legs having uneven loading. Heavy wind or sea state then cause the booster to teeter and slide which can lead to even worse leg loading. In this state, securing with the OG is super challenging and often only partial successful We came up with self leveling legs that immediately equalize leg loads on landing after experiencing a severe tippy booster two years ago on Christmas (first flight of 1069). The fleet is mostly outfitted, but 1058, given its age, was not. It met its fate when it hit intense wind and waves resulting in failure of a partially secured OG less than 100 miles from home. One thing is for sure… we will make lemonade out of lemons and learn as much as possible from historic 1058 on our path to aircraft like operations. Interesting. If it happened 100 miles offshore then they won't be recovering the grid fin section as that is VERY deep water . I thought it tipped over much closer to shore. |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 9:35:56 AM EDT
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50% POV for the F9H launch scheduled for 8:07 p.m. EST tomorrow night.
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Posted: 12/27/2023 2:15:19 PM EDT
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Is this one going up the coast?
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Posted: 12/27/2023 2:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Is this one going up the coast? 
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Posted: 12/27/2023 2:55:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HeavyMetal]
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I might be able to see it if I can get out of the light pollution.
Are the recovering the side-boosters down range? |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 3:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: I might be able to see it if I can get out of the light pollution. Are the recovering the side-boosters down range? side boosters will return to LZ1&2, center core will be expended, |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 3:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: uh, no, it was moved from the West Coast to the East Coast a few years ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: Originally Posted By Blu3Ridge: Confused. Wasn't JRTI retired? uh, no, it was moved from the West Coast to the East Coast a few years ago. OCISLY is on the west coast. ASOG and JRTI are at the Cape (Florida). I am expecting a new drone ship on the east coast or SpaceX may reduce the number of Starlinks per launch in order to return the booster to land on some flights. |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 3:54:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon Heavy, USSF-52/OTV-7/X-37B
1) Mission Description: "AA SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket will launch the USSF-52 mission for the U.S. Space Force. The Falcon Heavy will launch the experimental X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle on this mission. This will be the seventh flight of this spacecraft on a mission also known as OTV-7. This will be the first launch of an X-37B using a Falcon Heavy rocket." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch window: 8:07 PM EST (28 December 2023) 3) Launch site: SLC-39A, Florida 4) Launch direction: Northeast 5) Webcast viewing option:  SpaceX - Falcon Heavy - USSF-52 - LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - December 29, 2023 6) Observation comments: Flight Club (@flightclubio). Follow #FalconHeavy should be visible up the east coast tonight as it carries USSF-52 to orbit! Be sure to sign up to Flight Club's Photographer's Toolkit if you wanna spot it. If you've never used the Toolkit before and wanna try it out, ping me for a free trial!  7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! Doug is underway from Port Canaveral for attempt #2 at supporting the Falcon Heavy USSF-52 mission. Doug will recover the fairing, side boosters will RTLS , and the center core will be expended.  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: X-37B  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com c. Ready for launch:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com d. Navigation Warning: Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Side boosters will return to land at LZ-1 and LZ-2. Center core will be expended in the ocean. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:11 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:24 Side boosters engine cutoff (BECO) 00:02:28 Side boosters separate 00:02:43 Side boosters' boostback burns begin 00:03:52 Side boosters' boostback burns end 00:03:54 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:03:57 Center core 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:04:03 2nd stage engine starts (SES) 00:04:28 Fairing deployment 00:06:46 Side boosters’ entry burns start 00:07:03 Side boosters’ entry burns end 00:08:06 Side boosters’ landing burns start 00:08:24 Side boosters’ landing 10) Orbit insertion: Not provided |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 3:55:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-36
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch window: 11:01 PM EST (28 December 2023). Backup opportunities available until 2:59 a.m. ET on Friday, December 29. 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing option:  SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-36 - SLC-40 - CCSFS - December 29, 2023 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Signet Warhorse III + ASOG departed PC on Dec 26 @ 9:33am ET  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com Bob departed PC on Dec 27 @ 6:48am ET  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch: d. Navigation Warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recovery on drone ship ASOG. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:27 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:30 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:37 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:05 Fairing deployment 00:06:09 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:32 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:04 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:26 1st stage landing 00:08:40 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:11 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:12 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:20 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 285 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 8:04:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2023 8:30:57 PM EDT
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it's TAPE !
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Posted: 12/27/2023 8:35:42 PM EDT
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Of all the crazy accomplishments SpaceX has pulled off,
finding 11 working ratchet straps at the same time has to be the most impressive. |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 9:08:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NwG: Of all the crazy accomplishments SpaceX has pulled off, finding 11 working ratchet straps at the same time has to be the most impressive. there's a Harbor Freight on Merritt Island. 
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Posted: 12/27/2023 9:18:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: there's a Harbor Freight on Merritt Island. I was wondering why they sold out of all of that stuff today. Was there this morning. LOL (I'll be there tomorrow morning too, the tool cart I ordered showed up today, pretty excited about it too !) |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 11:03:25 PM EDT
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Scott Manley
 SpaceX's Loses Its Best Booster - 1058 - 19 Launches, 260 tons! |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 3:02:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RiverSwine45]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: 50% POV for the F9H launch scheduled for 8:07 p.m. EST tomorrow night. Falcon heavy all fixed and back up the hill, just in time for crap weather again  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 3:56:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2023 4:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Falcon heavy all fixed and back up the hill, just in time for crap weather again https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/180908/20231228_133309_jpg-3073752.JPG I saw one tweet that a traffic light was out somewhere and photographers may not be able to set up remote cameras. I assume that doing so has to be done some period prior to launch. |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 5:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: I saw one tweet that a traffic light was out somewhere and photographers may not be able to set up remote cameras. I assume that doing so has to be done some period prior to launch. There was a traffic issue out by the visitor center earlier, could have been the light in that area or space commerce way I think it's called. Security said it was backed up quite a ways. Would most likely effect "journalists and photographers" setting up remote cameras, that's done by escort. |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 8:15:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2023 8:51:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:04:51 PM EDT
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Hopefully they used that booster for breeding purposes before it passed away.
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:06:04 PM EDT
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In for the launch
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:06:45 PM EDT
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GO for launch
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:07:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:15:58 PM EDT
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nailed them.
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:16:40 PM EDT
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Nailed it! x 258!
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:16:45 PM EDT
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cool video
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:17:15 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:18:20 PM EDT
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Still a bit cloudy by me in Jax but still had a good show.
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Posted: 12/28/2023 9:18:30 PM EDT
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