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Link Posted: 9/15/2023 11:09:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2023 11:17:29 PM EDT
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-16 Mission
Link Posted: 9/15/2023 11:38:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/16/2023 7:42:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Starlink 6-16 was a success.



Link Posted: 9/16/2023 3:45:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/16/2023 4:35:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
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Let us see re-entry video.
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 10:48:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#7]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-17

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

This is the 17th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, marking the first Falcon 9 booster to reach this milestone. It previously launched GPS III-3, Turksat 5A, Transporter-2, Intelsat G-33/G-34, Transporter-6, and 11 Starlink missions.

2)  Launch window:  11:38 PM EDT (19 September 2023).   If needed, four backup opportunities are available between 11:38 p.m. ET (03:38 UTC on September 20) and 1:46 a.m. ET (05:46 UTC on September 20)

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-39A, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

Look for one livestream at a listing here.

6)  Observation comments: None

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwel@SpaceOffshore.  ASOG droneship and Doug are outbound from Port Canaveral to support SpaceX Starlink 6-17

b.  Satellites:

File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:


Space Team@SpaceTeam.  Weather iffy for next SpaceX Falcon 9 launch from Cape Canaveral overnight Tuesday

d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:26   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:36   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:03   Fairing deployment
00:06:10   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:32   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:06   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:28   1st stage landing
00:08:39   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:53:31   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:31   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:02:25   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 10:55:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Launch now 11:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 11:20:43 PM EDT
[#9]
This one is on CCSFS pad 40. I didn't think it was going tonight because the was no rocketship standing on the pad earlier this afternoon. Pretty dang fast to set up and go in 1 shift.
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 11:35:04 PM EDT
[#10]
SpaceX Launches Record Breaking Falcon 9 Launch | Starlink 6-17 Mission


Link Posted: 9/19/2023 11:47:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus] [#11]
Touchdown.

They do make it look EZ.
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 11:49:04 PM EDT
[#12]
How many of those do we need?
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 11:52:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus] [#13]
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Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:
How many of those do we need?
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Starlink launches?

Not too many more I think the constellation is close to complete. But there will probably be regular launches to replenish sattelites that deorbit.

Falcon 9 launches? I think we need a few more of those.

The plan for Starlink was always that the main body of it would be launched on Starship. But I don't expect Starship to be doing any flights with that kind of payload for a year or so. Once it does though...

Link Posted: 9/20/2023 8:32:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#14]
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Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:
How many of those do we need?
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Clarify "those."

SpaceX is approved for possibly 7500 Starlink satellites on-orbit.  There may have about 4500 operational now.  At 22 satellites per launch that is about 136 launches.  Assume 1.5 Starlink launches per week that is almost two years.

Early constellation size was 30,000 or more satellites.  How many are needed of the capacity of a Starship deployed satellite?  Unknown to me.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 7:44:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#15]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-18

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

This is the 17th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched GPS III-3, Turksat 5A, Transporter-2, Intelsat G-33/G-34, Transporter-6, and 11 Starlink missions.

2)  Launch window:  9:07 11:38 PM EDT (23 September 2023).   If needed, three backup opportunities are available starting at 9:57 p.m. ET (01:57 UTC on September 24) until 12:05 a.m. ET (04:05 UTC) on Sunday, September 24.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40,  Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

Look for one livestream at a listing here.

6)  Observation comments:   Post deorbit burn propellant venting may be visible at some southwestern US states.   Details here

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.

Bob and JRTI:

Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

b.  Satellites:

File photo of SpaceX’s Starlink V2 Mini satellites inside a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral. Image: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:

d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:25   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:35   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:07   Fairing deployment
00:06:07   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:29   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:05   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:27   1st stage landing
00:08:39   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:53:57   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:59   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:06   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 7:49:56 AM EDT
[#16]
I hope the weather is clear tonight. Launch time will guarantee outstanding jellyfish viewing if there isn't a delay.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:35:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey] [#17]


SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-18 Mission
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:43:57 PM EDT
[#18]
This booster is on it's 17th flight.

Per Google Falcon 9 booster cost about $62M. So, at this launch each launch from this booster was $3.6 Million.

That's pretty cheap.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:47:19 PM EDT
[#19]
nailed it
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:50:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By memsu:
This booster is on it's 17th flight.

Per Google Falcon 9 booster cost about $62M. So, at this launch each launch from this booster was $3.6 Million.

That's pretty cheap.
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I bet the refurb cost is somewhere between 3 and 10 million each time, so the amortized cost is going to be a bit more, but it’s still a heck of a discount compared to everybody else’s boosters.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 10:21:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#21]
Mission:  Falcon 9, Starlink 7-3

1)  Mission description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink Version 2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean." Source

2)  Launch window:    1:48 AM PDT  (25 September 2023).   If needed, four backup opportunities are available starting at 2:03 a.m. PT (09:03 UTC) until 4:04 a.m. PT (11:04 UTC).

3)  Launch site:   SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

4)  Launch direction:   South southeasterly

5)  Webcast viewing options:

NSF.  Click on the link then look for the upcoming launch

6)  Observation comments:    None

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.

Scorpius + OCISLY departed Port of Long Beach on Sep 22 @ 5:28pm PT / 8:28pm ET


Go Beyond (Go Crusader) departed PoLB on Sep 23 @ 10:36am PT / 1:36pm ET

Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

b.  Satellites:  See previous Starlink discussions.

c.  Ready for launch:

d.  Navigation warning:


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Drone ship OCISLY

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.

00:01:12  Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:26  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:29  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:36  2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:01  Fairing deployment
00:06:18  1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:39  1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:03  1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:26  1st stage landing
00:08:38  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:53:35  2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:36  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:02:29  Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit destination:  286 x 297 kilometers, 53 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 11:08:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:


I bet the refurb cost is somewhere between 3 and 10 million each time, so the amortized cost is going to be a bit more, but it’s still a heck of a discount compared to everybody else’s boosters.
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By memsu:
This booster is on it's 17th flight.

Per Google Falcon 9 booster cost about $62M. So, at this launch each launch from this booster was $3.6 Million.

That's pretty cheap.


I bet the refurb cost is somewhere between 3 and 10 million each time, so the amortized cost is going to be a bit more, but it’s still a heck of a discount compared to everybody else’s boosters.


"By Grabthars Hammer, what a savings."

The funny thing is that besides the obvious cost savings from reuse we also seem to have economies of scale coming in. Delta IV was conceived of as a relatively cheap to build rocket that with mass production, would drive down launch costs. Mass production of Delta IV did not happen, but it seems to be happening with the Falcon series. Falcon Heavy is Delta IVs de facto replacement and it is less than half the price in fully expended configuration to launch compared to Delta IV.

If the day ever comes that for whatever reason, other companies start making licenced copies of Falcon or even Starship. That could drive costs down even further. That said, I really wouldn't trust Boeing to be able to make a Falcon 9 at the moment.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 11:14:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:


I bet the refurb cost is somewhere between 3 and 10 million each time, so the amortized cost is going to be a bit more, but it’s still a heck of a discount compared to everybody else’s boosters.
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By memsu:
This booster is on it's 17th flight.

Per Google Falcon 9 booster cost about $62M. So, at this launch each launch from this booster was $3.6 Million.

That's pretty cheap.


I bet the refurb cost is somewhere between 3 and 10 million each time, so the amortized cost is going to be a bit more, but it’s still a heck of a discount compared to everybody else’s boosters.


I don't think each refurb costs is that much, maybe just each 10th flight overhaul/refurb.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:22:09 AM EDT
[#24]
Starlink 7-3 launch was a success.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 3:57:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/27/2023 8:14:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#26]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-19

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:  10:00 PM EDT (29 September 2023).  If needed, three backup opportunities are available starting at 7:34 p.m. ET until 10:15 p.m. ET.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40,  Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

Look for one livestream at a listing here.

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-19 Mission


Replay! SpaceX launches 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit, nails landing


6)  Observation comments:   Sunset: 7:13 PM EDT,  Civil Twilight: 7:37 PM,  Nautical Twilight: 8:04 PM,
Astronomical Twilight: 8:31 PM

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Credit:   Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   Doug and ASOG droneship have departed Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-19

b.  Satellites:

Previously provided.

c.  Ready for launch:

d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship ASOG

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:25   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:28   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:34   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:06   Fairing deployment
00:06:07   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:31   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:05   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:27   1st stage landing
00:08:38   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:54:01   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:54:03   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:19   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 9/27/2023 8:19:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Weather ain't looking good for that time tomorrow.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 6:30:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#28]
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Weather ain't looking good for that time tomorrow.
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Only 20% chance of good weather.

Starlink 6-19 delayed until 29 September 2023.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 6:17:35 PM EDT
[#29]


Link Posted: 9/28/2023 8:38:40 PM EDT
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In that time they have become the most prolific launch system
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 9:23:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:

In that time they have become the most prolific launch system
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Seems like a couple of lifetimes ago. Those were dark days for space enthusiasts. Shuttle was winding down with no proposed replacement.

I and quite a few other people were expecting Virgin and it's air launched systems to become the next ticket to manned spaceflight. Boy were we wrong.
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 2:50:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2023 9:36:32 PM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 9:38:28 PM EDT
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Falcon heavy is hands down the current leader in entertainment value. For now..
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 9:57:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 10:09:05 PM EDT
[#36]
nailed it
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 11:27:37 PM EDT
[#37]
looks like this stuff is getting boring.
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 11:27:56 PM EDT
[#38]


Link Posted: 9/30/2023 12:21:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7Pjy71bEAA3X3_?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Tenth launch this month, new record for Space X.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 4:48:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
looks like this stuff is getting boring.
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that's due to SpaceX's dumb decision not to livestream to YT and instead only to X.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 6:41:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Didn't even hear it.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 11:40:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2023 11:44:39 AM EDT
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Groovy. This is a very ambitious mission in my book. One of those things that will provide the data needed for projects like asteroid mining.

If! It works. If it doesn't then we are looking at a multimillion dollar failure.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 11:48:53 AM EDT
[#44]
I got skunked last night again. Damn clouds over palm beach.
Link Posted: 9/30/2023 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass:
I got skunked last night again. Damn clouds over palm beach.
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Yet with Starlink launches weekly or so you will have another opportunity soon.
Link Posted: 10/1/2023 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion:

that's due to SpaceX's dumb decision not to livestream to YT and instead only to X.
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What difference does it make where they stream it?
Link Posted: 10/1/2023 10:54:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kill-9:
What difference does it make where they stream it?
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Because certain streaming devices like Roku may not be able to stream X/Twitter content. While there used to be a Twitter channel on Roku, not finding it when searching. Now have to wait for someone to cross load it back to Youtube in order to watch it on the Roku. Haven't even bothered checking if the FireStick has a X/Twitter app after SpaceX stopped posting live launches to Youtube.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 1:26:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kill-9:
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Apparently you have to be a twitter user to see it.  If you have a way to link it and not sign into twitter, let me know.

The Space.com link had a huge logo on the right side of the screen and the NSF link has to be muted to avoid the annoying narrative.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 8:38:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#49]
Mission:   Falcon 9, Starlink 6-21

1)  Mission Description:  "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."    SpaceFlightNow source

2)  Launch window:  10:45 PM EDT (4 October 2023).  If needed, four backup opportunities are available starting at 11:38 p.m. ET until 1:57 a.m. ET on Thursday, October 5.

Launched at 1:36 AM EDT on 5 October 2023.

3)  Launch Site:   SLC-40,  Florida

4)  Launch direction:  Southeast

5)  Webcast viewing option:

Look for one livestream at a listing here.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-21 - SLC-40 - CCSFS - October 5, 2023


6)  Observation comments:     None

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

Doug departed PC on Oct 3 @ 11:39am ET (approx. 4 hour turnaround).  It's going to have to double-time it to make it to fairing LZ in time.

b.  Satellites:

Previously provided.

c.  Ready for launch:   Not found.

d.  Navigation warning:  


Source:  NASASpaceFlight.com

8)  First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    Recover on drone ship JRTI.

9)  Launch to deployment events/timeline:    

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:01:12   Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket)
00:02:25   1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:02:28   1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:34   2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:03:05   Fairing deployment
00:06:09   1st stage entry burn begins
00:06:29   1st stage entry burn ends
00:08:00   1st stage landing burn begins
00:08:24   1st stage landing
00:08:38   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:53:57   2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:53:59   2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:05:15   Starlink satellites deploy

10)  Orbit insertion:   284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 3:33:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sbhaven:

Because certain streaming devices like Roku may not be able to stream X/Twitter content. While there used to be a Twitter channel on Roku, not finding it when searching. Now have to wait for someone to cross load it back to Youtube in order to watch it on the Roku. Haven't even bothered checking if the FireStick has a X/Twitter app after SpaceX stopped posting live launches to Youtube.
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Originally Posted By sbhaven:
Originally Posted By kill-9:
What difference does it make where they stream it?

Because certain streaming devices like Roku may not be able to stream X/Twitter content. While there used to be a Twitter channel on Roku, not finding it when searching. Now have to wait for someone to cross load it back to Youtube in order to watch it on the Roku. Haven't even bothered checking if the FireStick has a X/Twitter app after SpaceX stopped posting live launches to Youtube.

Also, there;s no easy way to go back and look at archives or if you missed a launch. Comments aren't really a thing, and for instance my wife and FIL aren't on Twitter, so if I want to show them a launch, or put it on the big computer screen at work to show the guys, its a damned hassle.
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