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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 9:51:30 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 10:28:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Here is a website that shows possible coverage in your area.   If you click on the camera you get a map that has cities on it so you can adjust your location.  I am in the 80% region.

Starlink coverage estimates

Near 100% coverage is around the US/Canada border.
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I’m at 79%
I am so friggin ready for this. I work from home, and I have 6 kids trying to do their school work (we’re on covid quarantine again). We’re dying here. Save me Elon!
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 10:31:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By marksman121:


Wonder how much this pissed off China that there might be Internet access that they cannot control. lol
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Interesting question.

Assuming they had someone in another country as the actual subscriber, paying the bills for them, and were able to get the equipment smuggled to them... would they be able to get service?
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 10:37:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 10:45:51 PM EST
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That map is current coverage estimates, IIRC their Starlink offices are in Redmond, Washington. "The SpaceX satellite development facility in Redmond, Washington houses the Starlink research, development, manufacturing, and on-orbit control operations." Wiki

So it makes sense for the far northern US and Canada to have the best coverage the moment. As more Falcon 9's are launched with Starlink satellites, the constellation will grow. They launch about 60 sats per rocket and have around a 3% failure rate.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 10:57:21 PM EST
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Happy as a clam to be in a 99% coverage area.

Now take my money!
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 11:04:26 PM EST
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85.2% coverage for me right now. Keep 'em coming!
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 11:07:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gloftoe:


71% for some rural property for us.  Is that map CURRENT coverage, or final planned coverage?
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Originally Posted By fluwoebers:

I’m at 79%
I am so friggin ready for this. I work from home, and I have 6 kids trying to do their school work (we’re on covid quarantine again). We’re dying here. Save me Elon!


71% for some rural property for us.  Is that map CURRENT coverage, or final planned coverage?


They have 800 satellites now. The map is someone else’s idea of what coverage is provided by those

Planned to have 12,000 satellites, and possibly an additional 30,000 more

That will provide worldwide coverage


Link Posted: 10/29/2020 11:11:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sgthoskins:

For the speeds they are talking by next summer, I would gladly pay that.
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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 11:33:30 PM EST
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I clicked on the Question mark and now I can make it easier to find your location.

Mouse right click, hold and move down and you zoom in.  Move left right up or down and you can start to see cities.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:16:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:

I'm hoping the price is good.  I want reliable high speed!
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I’ve read $100.00 a month with a $499.00 up front for the satellite equipment. I’m not doing that. I’m not poor but I’m not throwing that much in for a bit more speed. But I’ll do me, you do you.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:21:07 AM EST
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Any info on latency? Like ping? Satellite is know for terrible ping. If you play online games or your kids do, it sucks no matter the download
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:33:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CodeBlueSTAT:
Any info on latency? Like ping? Satellite is know for terrible ping. If you play online games or your kids do, it sucks no matter the download
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Read the article in the first post on this page.  Maybe 40 ms and that should improve with more satellites.

"Starlink's real win, though, is on latency. Latency in recent tests varied wildly, but averaged at 42ms. That's much longer than wired internet systems but shorter than HughesNet and Exede, which averaged 728ms and 643ms in September, respectively. The company says it expects "to achieve 16ms to 19ms by summer 2021." 4G LTE is currently in the 40ms range for latency, according to Speedtest Intelligence data. My home fiber connection gets 2-3ms latency."
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:37:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By McCandles:
I’ve read $100.00 a month with a $499.00 up front for the satellite equipment. I’m not doing that. I’m not poor but I’m not throwing that much in for a bit more speed. But I’ll do me, you do you.
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Read an earlier post on the previous page where the equipment cost "may" drop in time.   Give it six months...A year?   I don't know if the monthly cost will drop.

If you have a better deal then it is not meant to meet your needs.    Many of us have far slower speeds and may never have 50 Mbps or better at a decent price from land-based systems.

PS.  I am glad that you have good internet service.
Link Posted: 10/31/2020 10:36:38 AM EST
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Elon Musk’s Starlink user documents are filled with meme-worthy Easter Eggs

"Among the most notable of these Easter Eggs lay in the Starlink system’s Installation Guidelines. As noted by CNBC space reporter Michael Sheetz, SpaceX’s official Installation Guidelines have revealed that the private space firm is fondly calling its Starlink user terminals “Dishy McFlatface,” a reference to “Boaty McBoatface,” which caught headlines back in 2016.
Link Posted: 10/31/2020 11:56:40 AM EST
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Looks like it has the potential of discouraging 5g deployment to the burbs, especially if the equipment price comes down, which I would expect. I welcome Starlink and 5G competition to my current cable internet.

I would be interested in Starlink:
1) If the equipment becomes commodity-level pricing without paying a license for each set so I could afford multiple sets.
2) Or if I could just pick it up and mount it on my vehicle, RV, or boat.
Link Posted: 11/1/2020 1:08:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/1/2020 1:11:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DrJester:
That map is current coverage estimates, IIRC their Starlink offices are in Redmond, Washington. "The SpaceX satellite development facility in Redmond, Washington houses the Starlink research, development, manufacturing, and on-orbit control operations." Wiki

So it makes sense for the far northern US and Canada to have the best coverage the moment. As more Falcon 9's are launched with Starlink satellites, the constellation will grow. They launch about 60 sats per rocket and have around a 3% failure rate.
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No, it's because the satellites are in a 53 degree inclination, so the density of satellites is highest as the approach the highest lattitude in their orbit (53d)

Starlink Early Deployment: 6 and 12 orbital planes
Link Posted: 11/2/2020 2:50:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/2/2020 3:00:51 PM EST
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I'm down in SoCal with a couple sites that could use it, but I know the coverage isn't there.
Link Posted: 11/3/2020 10:23:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


Read an earlier post on the previous page where the equipment cost "may" drop in time.   Give it six months...A year?   I don't know if the monthly cost will drop.

If you have a better deal then it is not meant to meet your needs.    Many of us have far slower speeds and may never have 50 Mbps or better at a decent price from land-based systems.

PS.  I am glad that you have good internet service.
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Originally Posted By McCandles:
I’ve read $100.00 a month with a $499.00 up front for the satellite equipment. I’m not doing that. I’m not poor but I’m not throwing that much in for a bit more speed. But I’ll do me, you do you.


Read an earlier post on the previous page where the equipment cost "may" drop in time.   Give it six months...A year?   I don't know if the monthly cost will drop.

If you have a better deal then it is not meant to meet your needs.    Many of us have far slower speeds and may never have 50 Mbps or better at a decent price from land-based systems.

PS.  I am glad that you have good internet service.



Give me unlimited data at a decent speed that isn't interrupted multiple times per week and I'll happily pay that. I'm using a data reseller now and that path is getting old.
Link Posted: 11/3/2020 2:04:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/3/2020 8:18:23 PM EST
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Tesla owner puts SpaceX Starlink to the test in the wild



A Tesla owner turned SpaceX Starlink Beta tester has taken their cutting-edge satellite internet system on a road trip, demonstrating that the constellation really will be able to deliver high-quality internet anywhere on Earth.

Tested about ~15 miles from service address in a national forest, where locals have established a gun range. There is no cell here with any carrier -- see the gallery with the tesla dash screen (top right of screen shows service either with Verizon or AT&T, whatever Tesla uses). My phone uses Google Fi, which is a multi-network with Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular. So, no service. *I mention this to show that there were no tricks / alternative methods of connectivity besides Starlink on my devices. To be clear, cell connectivity has absolutely nothing to do with Starlink.

Works beautifully. I did a realtime video call and some tests. My power supply is max 300w, and the drain for the whole system while active was around 116w.

Thanks to Reddit user wander-coder’s intrepid testing, we now know that even in its buggy infancy, Starlink is more than capable of realizing that promise. Connected to a large battery pack and sat on the muddy ground in the forests of Hayden, Idaho, the small Starlink antenna was able to deliver download speeds of more than 120 megabits per second (Mbps) and latency under 40 milliseconds tens of miles from any kind of cell service or wired connectivity. While latency did jump to ~140 ms under load, the reality is that in the same location, current satellite providers would be able to offer latency of ~600 milliseconds at best.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 5:59:41 PM EST
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My equipment is due to arrive tomorrow.  Should be a pretty interesting experiment from my mountaintop.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 6:03:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ghostdog1066:
My equipment is due to arrive tomorrow.  Should be a pretty interesting experiment from my mountaintop.
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Lucky!
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 6:09:15 PM EST
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So I guess the Starlink NDA's are just a suggestion.  Cool.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 6:13:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IceAuger:
So I guess the Starlink NDA's are just a suggestion.  Cool.
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I've seen it mentioned that the NDA was for private beta, no NDA for public beta.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 7:37:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

I've seen it mentioned that the NDA was for private beta, no NDA for public beta.
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Can confirm, no NDA involved in the public beta with my invite.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 12:08:12 AM EST
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In the past year, a line of sight wireless ISP has started servicing my home with amazing (to me) 50 MB speeds, but before that I was stuck on crappy 2MB DSL.  I'm in North Texas, but I signed up for the beta anyway.  If it's made available to me, I plan on buying this router so that I can have two WAN connections, one for my existing (and hopefully more reliable connection), and one to use with Starlink:  Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX11000

Something for those of you invited to the beta to consider, especially with the warnings about the complete outages that they expect.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 12:17:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ytka:



Give me unlimited data at a decent speed that isn't interrupted multiple times per week and I'll happily pay that. I'm using a data reseller now and that path is getting old.
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Yep, same, the throttling and caps
KILL me.

Sure, my 4g connections are faster than my previous places 1.5M DSL, but the latency, congestion, and throttling are so bad some times I might as well be on bonded 56k.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 12:28:32 AM EST
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"yay I can finally have good internet in the middle of no where!"

Yeap and so will your new neighbors.

Link Posted: 11/6/2020 12:31:18 AM EST
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They built one of the beacons or whatever the fuck they are within 5 miles of my cabin. Bunch of round sensors on the ground.  Watched those things launch and then circle overhead all night every night for months now. Pretty crazy.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 12:42:23 AM EST
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just found out my neighbor is part of the beta here in north central wa.  he said it is 'crazy fast!'.  mind you we were getting 3 down 1 up dsl.  i suppose with him doing the beta i don't have a shot at it now.

speaking of becoming a beta tester...was there a specific step that has to be taken or just sign up for notifications and if they see you in an area they want to test they will contact you?
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 6:38:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DaTrueDave:
In the past year, a line of sight wireless ISP has started servicing my home with amazing (to me) 50 MB speeds, but before that I was stuck on crappy 2MB DSL.  I'm in North Texas, but I signed up for the beta anyway.  If it's made available to me, I plan on buying this router so that I can have two WAN connections, one for my existing (and hopefully more reliable connection), and one to use with Starlink:  Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX11000

Something for those of you invited to the beta to consider, especially with the warnings about the complete outages that they expect.
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I recommend getting a PepLink router instead of that ASUS.

For greater throughput and redundancy I have 2 DSL lines and an LTE line.  The router load balances them, and it’s seamless to the user.  Load balancing can be done on my end, bonding the lines needs to be done on both ends.  Century Link flat out said they will not bond the lines.  Yes, I know bonding is better than load balancing.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 6:45:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ghostdog1066:



Can confirm, no NDA involved in the public beta with my invite.
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Look forward to seeing your results
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 8:48:54 AM EST
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Glad to see some of you guys getting in, that's awesome!   Can't wait to see the numbers and hear the experiences.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 9:50:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:


I recommend getting a PepLink router instead of that ASUS.

For greater throughput and redundancy I have 2 DSL lines and an LTE line.  The router load balances them, and it’s seamless to the user.  Load balancing can be done on my end, bonding the lines needs to be done on both ends.  Century Link flat out said they will not bond the lines.  Yes, I know bonding is better than load balancing.
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The Asus does "aggregation" which sounds similar to what you're calling "load balancing."  It's done by the end user and the source of the WAN connections doesn't matter.  

Is the Peplink router just a couple hundred bucks?    Link?   Never heard of them, but I know Asus is leading the way in the consumer router industry.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 2:36:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

I've seen it mentioned that the NDA was for private beta, no NDA for public beta.
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Ah. I didn't realize they had progressed into the public beta stage.

I got a couple of emails from them earlier on but it's been quiet since. I was hoping that maybe my northerly latitude would make me a candidate but I guess not.  

Don't really need it as my present service is plenty fast (and cheaper), but figured I'd sign up for shits and grins.
Link Posted: 11/7/2020 7:49:36 PM EST
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SpaceX can soon offer Starlink's satellite internet to Canadians

"SpaceX may soon start offering Starlink’s satellite internet service to Canadians. The country’s regulators — the Innovation, Science and Economic Development department, in particular — have granted the company’s request for regulatory approval, allowing it to offer beta access to the high-speed internet network provided by Starlink’s satellite constellation."
Link Posted: 11/7/2020 7:52:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EmCee:
speaking of becoming a beta tester...was there a specific step that has to be taken or just sign up for notifications and if they see you in an area they want to test they will contact you?
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The only additional thing that I did was provide a zip code or similar.  Maybe others provided more if they were to be selected.

It seems that initial folks are in the northern US states bordering the place that uses bagged milk and people say "Eh!" a lot.
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:00:48 PM EST
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SpaceX Starlink internet approved in Canada, beta invites imminent

"SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet has officially won regulatory approval in Canada and CEO Elon Musk says that the first beta invites will begin to be sent out a matter of days from now.

Known as Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada (ISED), the decision was made well before most – including Musk himself – expected it, suggesting that the Canadian agency may have been responding to growing consumer enthusiasm and interest in Starlink internet. Since SpaceX began shipping Starlink user terminals to US beta testers less than two weeks ago, rural Americans have quickly come to heap praise on the new technology – warts and all. "
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:58:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


The only additional thing that I did was provide a zip code or similar.  Maybe others provided more if they were to be selected.

It seems that initial folks are in the northern US states bordering the place that uses bagged milk and people say "Eh!" a lot.
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Originally Posted By EmCee:
speaking of becoming a beta tester...was there a specific step that has to be taken or just sign up for notifications and if they see you in an area they want to test they will contact you?


The only additional thing that I did was provide a zip code or similar.  Maybe others provided more if they were to be selected.

It seems that initial folks are in the northern US states bordering the place that uses bagged milk and people say "Eh!" a lot.

Pretty sure I signed up for the notifications, but never got notified they wanted more beta testers.

Is there a link somewhere to "reapply" so I can try this out? I'm less than 10 miles south from the border. I'm interested as the local internet provider only could get me 3MGsP/S
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 8:05:24 PM EST
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I got an email / invitation to update my address two days ago.... crossing my fingers I get an actual invite.  Tired of 3mbps DSL.
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 6:50:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/13/2020 12:48:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sizzlin_bacon:

Pretty sure I signed up for the notifications, but never got notified they wanted more beta testers.

Is there a link somewhere to "reapply" so I can try this out? I'm less than 10 miles south from the border. I'm interested as the local internet provider only could get me 3MGsP/S
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Try this link again
Link Posted: 11/13/2020 2:41:26 AM EST
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Roof was too frosty to climb up and do a permanent install tonight but I stuck it in the front yard to see if it would get a signal, I was pretty surprised that it adjusted itself automatically to point a lot higher in the sky than I expected.

Speed test from old internet.



And one from starlink.

Link Posted: 11/13/2020 2:43:17 AM EST
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I hate you and will be refreshing my email hourly.


The email I got 2 days ago saying its available in my area and to update my address has given me some hope.
Link Posted: 11/13/2020 2:45:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kolat:
Roof was too frosty to climb up and do a permanent install tonight but I stuck it in the front yard to see if it would get a signal, I was pretty surprised that it adjusted itself automatically to point a lot higher in the sky than I expected.

Speed test from old internet.

https://i.imgur.com/0PChLCZ.jpg

And one from starlink.

https://i.imgur.com/TnWEuiJ.jpg
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Sweet!
Link Posted: 11/13/2020 7:48:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kolat:
Roof was too frosty to climb up and do a permanent install tonight but I stuck it in the front yard to see if it would get a signal, I was pretty surprised that it adjusted itself automatically to point a lot higher in the sky than I expected.

Speed test from old internet.

https://i.imgur.com/0PChLCZ.jpg

And one from starlink.

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That is outstanding!  Happy for you.
Link Posted: 11/13/2020 10:38:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sgthoskins:

That is outstanding!  Happy for you.
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Thanks, covid has been rough since the wife is a teacher and both kids had online school.
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