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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:30:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @ED_P I have an app that decodes the 4 number safety placards, it's terrifying some of the stuff cruising around out there. Gotta move it somehow but I've definitely decided to distance myself from a few trucks. @Equestrian. Thanks- I'll have to look that App up. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:30:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? And where would it be coming from? Why is policy. Where from, I have no idea. I've run the route from NY to MD. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:32:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably low grade medical waste. This. It's often transported in vans. Or it used to be. We had one wreck on Hwy 101 a few decades ago. Caused a few problems. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:32:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is policy. Where from, I have no idea. I've run the route from NY to MD. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:36:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah.....that's not radioactive. Department of Energy has armed escorts with multiple vehicles when moving/transporting any nuclear/radioactive materials. Full loadout kits with full-auto SMG/M-4. But, do they (like others on here) have $30-40,000 in Nods and Thermals? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:36:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Small Godzilla?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:37:30 AM EDT
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It's been a few years, but I'm 99% sure they were coming from Canada. Sound right?
@JustinU235 |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:39:11 AM EDT
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It's called a shipping cask. It's made of steel and lead. It contains radioactive waste. LSA basically means the waste is less than 1 R/hr at 3 meters. External dose rates on the package are quite low.
I've loaded hundreds of them. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem would be the lead becomes radioactive and then your melting pot, mold, gun would also become radioactive if the source is not very well sealed up In theory that's certainly possible. In reality, the vast, vast majority of lead used for shielding is exposed to very low levels of radiation and is perfectly safe to use. I'm pretty sure I've sent isotope core/container lead downrange this week. 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:46:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dem shackles.  As a crane guy, I noticed the rigging first. Lol |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:48:48 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: dem shackles. Whoops, double post. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:53:45 AM EDT
[#12]
low level crap. ref
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would have to be military. Commercial nukes don't ship spent fuel. That particular shipment, probably military or DOE. As far as commercial NPPs shipping spent fuel, it's done occasionally, just not bulk shipments for disposal. It's mostly for evaluation and testing purposes. ETA: was referring to the shipment with the escorts. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:01:04 AM EDT
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It's Low Level Radioactive Waste, not spent fuel. Period.
It's a type A container. It is only rated for LLRW. eta- 99% of these are spent resin or filters, the remainder being DAW. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah.....that's not radioactive. Department of Energy has armed escorts with multiple vehicles when moving/transporting any nuclear/radioactive materials. Full loadout kits with full-auto SMG/M-4. This. I've seen one of those before a number of years to driving on HWY 67 South of Dallas headed South. Somewhat normal looking Semi truck with Radioactive placards and two black with dark window Surburbans in front and two in the rear as I recall. No doubt if you what to look for what it was. I've worked interacted with DOE guys before so I had a bit of an idea something was different about that transport. With Pantex located here in TX high level nuclear transports are not too unusual, even though Dallas is not that close to them. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:02:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a crane guy, I noticed the rigging first. Lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: dem shackles. As a crane guy, I noticed the rigging first. Lol Now I'm curious; what's wrong with the rigging? That hardware looks plenty heavy duty to a layman like me. There's no way that thing can slide around while being pulled down into it's cradle of triangle pieces welded onto the trailer. Are the shackles substandard? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:07:36 AM EDT
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You need to be more worried about Patel or Singh flying down the road pulling a raggedy container while watching Pornhub.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:12:16 AM EDT
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Used fuel rods typically aren't shipped, and they definitely aren't shipped LSA. That cask could be completely empty, and is just rad enough to need placards. I've seen UN number only loads shipped under placards because the paperwork maker was an idiot. This is what a dry cask for spent rods looks like on top of the trailer that brings it out to storage.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, no, no. That’s a decoy. The real brain is hidden in an Altoids tin in the cab of the truck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thats probably where they store FJB's actual brain. Hidden in plain sight, as they say.  No, no, no. That’s a decoy. The real brain is hidden in an Altoids tin in the cab of the truck.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 11:05:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I've seen one of those before a number of years to driving on HWY 67 South of Dallas headed South. Somewhat normal looking Semi truck with Radioactive placards and two black with dark window Surburbans in front and two in the rear as I recall. No doubt if you what to look for what it was. I've worked interacted with DOE guys before so I had a bit of an idea something was different about that transport. With Pantex located here in TX high level nuclear transports are not too unusual, even though Dallas is not that close to them. NNSA OST you say…  Office of Secure Transportation (OST): Mission - Video 2 |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:17:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man I bet I could cast a lot of bullets out of the lead lining that thing. Not to say this is a HLW container, it isn't: the lid is latched instead of welded shut. Plus, I don't think they move HLW much offsite the plant anymore. There is a closed nuclear power plant somewhere in the NE. The plant has been demolished and the site has been turned into a Green Field. About a 1/2 mile south, inside a little fenced area, are 6 HLW containers/casks with all the HLW the plant produced. Don't recall it's name but it's pretty visible via GE. Dr. David, nuclear physicist with U of IL discusses it in one of his videos. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:19:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Nah.
Federal undercover operation: it's the monthly meth run for Hunter. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:23:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: dem shackles. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I'm curious; what's wrong with the rigging? That hardware looks plenty heavy duty to a layman like me. There's no way that thing can slide around while being pulled down into it's cradle of triangle pieces welded onto the trailer. Are the shackles substandard? I think the other posters were issuing a vote of confidence. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:47:04 PM EDT
[#25]
Here's whats inside
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:53:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Low specific activity (LSA) materials are one of the main categories of radioactive materials transported. They consist essentially of physical and chemical concentrates of uranium and thorium, various types of solid and liquid waste and heavy water solutions.
http://www.chemsafetypro.com/Topics/TDG/Class_7_Dangerous_Goods.html |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:55:07 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 gram of Californium-252? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/CfShield.JPG Fifty-ton shipping cask built at Oak Ridge National Laboratory which can transport up to 1 gram of 252Cf.[57] Large and heavily shielded transport containers are needed to prevent the release of highly radioactive material in case of normal and hypothetical accidents.[58] Not surprising that Californium would be worse than any other statonium, even New Yorkonium. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 2:59:09 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats probably where they store FJB's actual brain. Hidden in plain sight, as they say. Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats probably where they store FJB's actual brain. Hidden in plain sight, as they say. Fifty-ton shipping cask built at Oak Ridge National Laboratory which can transport up to 1 gram so, yeah. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 3:12:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As a crane guy, I noticed the rigging first. Lol
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:01:43 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool. I love seeing odd trucks on the highway. Years ago before camera phones, I saw a dented and beat to death liquid transport tanker that had stenciled in key places on the tank- "CAUTION: Rendered Laboratory Animals"  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:06:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I'm curious; what's wrong with the rigging? That hardware looks plenty heavy duty to a layman like me. There's no way that thing can slide around while being pulled down into it's cradle of triangle pieces welded onto the trailer. Are the shackles substandard? it's that dem shackles are yuge. biggest shackles i've ever used are 1" 100k shackles. that's a yuge bitch.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:10:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In theory that's certainly possible. In reality, the vast, vast majority of lead used for shielding is exposed to very low levels of radiation and is perfectly safe to use. I'm pretty sure I've sent isotope core/container lead downrange this week. Can't beat isotope core lead. I have several hundred lbs of the 32lb cores myself.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 gram of Californium-252? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/CfShield.JPG Fifty-ton shipping cask built at Oak Ridge National Laboratory which can transport up to 1 gram of 252Cf.[57] Large and heavily shielded transport containers are needed to prevent the release of highly radioactive material in case of normal and hypothetical accidents.[58] 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they'd all be tracers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Man I bet I could cast a lot of bullets out of the lead lining that thing. And they'd all be tracers. Bonus! 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:25:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryDamn, nesting dolls style. Is it casks, all the way down?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:26:29 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 gram??? It takes a 50-ton cask to transport 1 freakin gram of that radioactive material? Holy shiit! 2.3 trillion neutrons per second is a lot to worry about. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:27:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Looks like a typical low level radioactive shipment.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:29:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, nesting dolls style. Is it casks, all the way down? That's a High Integrity Container that's filled with processed low level waste. The container gets shipped in a cask for further processing, or disposal. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:37:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Contains:
a) One of Hunter's older laptops? b) Joe's 10%? c) The next pandemic? d) Low-grade radioactive material? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:40:36 PM EDT
[#40]
They test the shit out of the higher level containers. Crashing trains and whatnot into them.
 Spent Nuclear Fuel Transportation Container Accident Testing I suspect that if the the truck carrying that container got into such a bad accident that it broke free, the biggest risk would be that it's now rolling down the highway and could hit other vehicles. I saw some video on the Department of Energy "Office of Secure Transportation" guys. Seems like it could be a dream job, if your dreams revolve around being a truck driver that gets to have a loaded M4 with them in the cab.  https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/office-secure-transportation |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:51:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Contains: a) One of Hunter's older laptops? b) Joe's 10%? c) The next pandemic? d) Low-grade radioactive material? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:52:23 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They test the shit out of the higher level containers. Crashing trains and whatnot into them.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmp3_CLx4VYI suspect that if the the truck carrying that container got into such a bad accident that it broke free, the biggest risk would be that it's now rolling down the highway and could hit other vehicles. I saw some video on the Department of Energy "Office of Secure Transportation" guys. Seems like it could be a dream job, if your dreams revolve around being a truck driver that gets to have a loaded M4 with them in the cab. https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/office-secure-transportation pay is not great. very stressful. long hours. high expectations. just like my current job. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nuclear-couriers-20170310-story.html |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 4:57:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably not a lot of lead, if any. The High Level Waste caskets that are (were?) made in north AL were SS outside lining and a Carbon steel inner (or vice versa, don't recall) with rebar and high density concrete in between. Not to say this is a HLW container, it isn't: the lid is latched instead of welded shut. Plus, I don't think they move HLW much offsite the plant anymore. There is a closed nuclear power plant somewhere in the NE. The plant has been demolished and the site has been turned into a Green Field. About a 1/2 mile south, inside a little fenced area, are 6 HLW containers/casks with all the HLW the plant produced. Don't recall it's name but it's pretty visible via GE. Dr. David, nuclear physicist with U of IL discusses it in one of his videos. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:01:07 PM EDT
[#44]
No idea but those are some big azz turnbuckles!!
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:03:59 PM EDT
[#45]
These are dry storage casks for spent fuel:
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:04:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would hope actual nuclear material has at least a rent a cop following Department of Energy has a whole section devoted to armed guards that specialize in nuclear transportation. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:11:29 PM EDT
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LSA = Low Specific Activity and I do not see a Transport Index on the package which would be the amount of dose equivalent at a meter away from the exterior of the package.
7 is the hazard class, radioactive. A yellow III label should have a TI, which is what triggers a Packard |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:31:41 PM EDT
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Garbage.
There is garbage inside of that container. There is a facility in Oak Ridge, with a giant-ass compactor, they take rad (and, occasionally other) contaminated garbage from other places, melt and compact it, and then ship it for burial. If the tractor says 'Hittman Transportation' 95% chance it came from, or is going to, Oak Ridge. Most likely no escorts, because there is no threat to the public and no proliferation concerns. That is *not* a weapons shipment, or anything to do with the 'nuclear couriers'. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 5:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThere is an older version of that video. I found it once a few years ago, and I can't find it again. Bugs the shit out of me lol |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 6:07:43 PM EDT
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Our new fuel arrived in stainless containers, sorry, no armed escort, just some trucker with a decent porn stash in the cab.
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