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1/20/2025 12:57:42 PM EDT
The JAKL 2.0 - Palmetto State Armory
1/20/2025 1:00:20 PM EDT
[#1]
I like it
1/20/2025 1:02:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Wen chf/cl barrel?
1/20/2025 1:04:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Sort of want
1/20/2025 1:06:01 PM EDT
[#4]
I would like to know 300blk barrel lengths.
1/20/2025 1:07:15 PM EDT
[#5]
6.8 SPC II
1/20/2025 1:08:09 PM EDT
[#6]
On it's face, this addresses all the issues I've seen/had with the JAKL design. To me, the JAKL always felt prototyp-ey, clearly a first draft of a company's foray into proprietary rifle design. It had some cool features but it still felt unrefined.

This is lighter weight, they redesigned the upper and lower, it has swappable barrels, and honestly, yeah - the bolt together design of the 1.0 felt minor league.

They ditched the AR lower compatibility, which is a bold move that I respect. I'm sure the engineering meetings were going through ways to fix certain elements and they kept running into AR compatibility restraints and it must have taken someone with some leadership guts to just look at it and say "screw it - we're going all in on the proprietary design! Make the best gun you can and don't worry about AR compatibility!" That takes balls. We'll see how it plays out, though. No more buying a JAKL upper, you have to order an entire gun.

This is gonna give the BRN180 and possibly the SIG LT a run for their money.

It has a better charging handle placement and design than the BRN for one (and sig, if you prefer side charging to AR charging). Those are still compatible with AR uppers, though.

I like it and I can't wait to see other configurations. Also I'm interested to see how MUCH weight they managed to shave off. "Lighter" might not mean a lot when the 1.0 is a veritable front heavy brick.


1/20/2025 1:09:13 PM EDT
[#7]
PSA....saving the 2A community one firearm at a time. I love my 1.0 since they replaced the bolt carrier, will likely snag one of these as well.
1/20/2025 1:09:18 PM EDT
[#8]
@jafrush

1/20/2025 1:09:52 PM EDT
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no AR lower compatibility means it more viable on the snomehico market
1/20/2025 1:11:08 PM EDT
[#10]
it's a competition at this point.  who can make the largest footprint, heavy, complex, five five six rifle?
1/20/2025 1:11:38 PM EDT
[#11]
This is a nice upgrade.

1/20/2025 1:12:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Probably will put a hurting on Robinson Arms.

I love the XCR, but their ordering process is slow and cumbersome. PSA is much easier, and if things are available such as barrels and parts then it will take a chunk from that market.
1/20/2025 1:13:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Please please make a left handed version!
1/20/2025 1:14:39 PM EDT
[#14]
It’s like Sig, beta test then release 2.0
1/20/2025 1:16:49 PM EDT
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I do to... alot
1/20/2025 1:18:56 PM EDT
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And will it be of a lighter profile? The biggest thing I hated about my Jakl was that it was so damn front heavy. Using a profile that decreases that weight (even if something simple like Faxon's Gunner profile) would help immensely.
1/20/2025 1:23:19 PM EDT
[#17]
do want

PSA is gonna have a hell of a booth at SHOT this year
1/20/2025 1:23:51 PM EDT
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At least it's one of the best looking 5.56 AKs out there.
1/20/2025 1:25:10 PM EDT
[#19]
This has piqued my interest. I liked the JAKL 1.0 and had plans to get one but now with the 2.0 and the subtle but nice changes, I may go this route.
1/20/2025 1:25:16 PM EDT
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They have been killing it for years.
1/20/2025 1:26:58 PM EDT
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Why? You can swap the charging handle and has ambi bolt release.
1/20/2025 1:30:48 PM EDT
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Springfield had a competitor in this category

1/20/2025 1:34:50 PM EDT
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What's interesting is PSA is the only one covering both flanks

6mm ARC Sabre - Coming Soon! | Palmetto State Armory
1/20/2025 1:35:06 PM EDT
[#24]
All these cool new gun releases right around Trump's inauguration. I hope T$ can make G36s great again.
1/20/2025 1:35:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Haven't watched yet, any mention of 6.5 Grendel?
1/20/2025 1:36:36 PM EDT
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5.56 & 300blk at first, more calibers to follow
1/20/2025 2:03:53 PM EDT
[#27]
I just got my 1.0 Jakl two weeks ago! damnit.
1/20/2025 2:12:26 PM EDT
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I was pondering buying a jakyl kit and by the time I had the upper and lower jakyl kit in my cart it was almost as much as the complete gun. For some reason the short barrel was substantially cheaper.

I think I'll wait for the new version to come out now. I'm interested in the vuk, 308, and 9mm versions as well. I don't know what one but I'll eventually get a jakyl of some type maybe later this year or next. If I like it I'll probably get a few but I'm not in a huge hurry until it's completely ironed out.


I kinda want bren3 or the FB GROT if they ever come out over the jakyl but I definitely want a 556 that isn't an AR or AK in the near future.
1/20/2025 2:13:31 PM EDT
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I just got my 1.0 Jakl two weeks ago! damnit.
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This is the classic PSA trippity-trappity-gatcha-switcheroo.  As soon as I buy gen1 of something, thats when they announce the new and improved gen2 that includes that one feature I really wish gen1 had.

They'll come out with a new product.  I say I'm gonna wait till they start offering that product with X feature.  Eventually I give in.  Doesn't matter if its a month or 24 months.  As soon as I give in and buy the current generation, they drop the next gen that includes that feature I had really been wanting.  Its like somehow they have their back end tied to my account.  Block the next release until giantpune has placed an order!
1/20/2025 2:14:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Love my gen 1 8.5" but would love a 7-8" Jakl with a better twist rate and lightened up a tad.

ETA this in 300BO, the 6 ARC Sabre, and the x57 will all be in my safe this year. Possibly the H&R 357 lever gun too
1/20/2025 2:14:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Something that strikes me as odd is that for years the push has been standardization/compatibility with small frame ARs, now on a pretty short time frame we get the ICAR and JAKL moving away from this.
1/20/2025 2:15:26 PM EDT
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And will it be of a lighter profile? The biggest thing I hated about my Jakl was that it was so damn front heavy. Using a profile that decreases that weight (even if something simple like Faxon's Gunner profile) would help immensely.
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And will it be of a lighter profile? The biggest thing I hated about my Jakl was that it was so damn front heavy. Using a profile that decreases that weight (even if something simple like Faxon's Gunner profile) would help immensely.

That's another thing about the jakyl and even their 556 AKs, no chf chrome lined options. They aren't exactly cheap rifles and I would of had one by now if they had a thinner profile chrome lined barrel.

PSA is definitely doing a ton of interesting things that I like though.
1/20/2025 2:19:50 PM EDT
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That's another thing about the jakyl and even their 556 AKs, no chf chrome lined options. They aren't exactly cheap rifles and I would of had one by now if they had a thinner profile chrome lined barrel.

PSA is definitely doing a ton of interesting things that I like though.
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Wen chf/cl barrel?


And will it be of a lighter profile? The biggest thing I hated about my Jakl was that it was so damn front heavy. Using a profile that decreases that weight (even if something simple like Faxon's Gunner profile) would help immensely.

That's another thing about the jakyl and even their 556 AKs, no chf chrome lined options. They aren't exactly cheap rifles and I would of had one by now if they had a thinner profile chrome lined barrel.

PSA is definitely doing a ton of interesting things that I like though.
Nitride is fine. But I get the reservations. They need to get their QC in line though. They've been doing better for sure but that is the hang up they have yet to conquer.
1/20/2025 2:26:59 PM EDT
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Uncle Sugar is going to run a new trial to replace the M4 and 5.56.
1/20/2025 2:31:30 PM EDT
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For real.

Kinda sick of melonited everything.

Even button rifled CL would be better
1/20/2025 2:31:46 PM EDT
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Nitride is fine. But I get the reservations. They need to get their QC in line though. They've been doing better for sure but that is the hang up they have yet to conquer.
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Wen chf/cl barrel?


And will it be of a lighter profile? The biggest thing I hated about my Jakl was that it was so damn front heavy. Using a profile that decreases that weight (even if something simple like Faxon's Gunner profile) would help immensely.

That's another thing about the jakyl and even their 556 AKs, no chf chrome lined options. They aren't exactly cheap rifles and I would of had one by now if they had a thinner profile chrome lined barrel.

PSA is definitely doing a ton of interesting things that I like though.
Nitride is fine. But I get the reservations. They need to get their QC in line though. They've been doing better for sure but that is the hang up they have yet to conquer.

I don't necessarily dislike nitrade just prefer chrome for longevity especially for something I can't easily change the barrel on. Not that I shoot out barrels often.


They need to up the QC game. I have a lot of PSA guns and I have had a lot of issues that could of been prevented all be it minor for the most part but still.
1/20/2025 2:41:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Its lighter, but how much came off of the nose?
1/20/2025 4:15:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Dammit PSA, now I have to buy another one.
1/20/2025 4:34:56 PM EDT
[#39]
I wonder if they're going to implement some of those changes from the 2.0 onto the original.
1/20/2025 4:37:03 PM EDT
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Its an incredibly good business model.
1/20/2025 4:39:21 PM EDT
[#41]
I’m loving PSA’s approach to new products.

“$2500 MCX? ACR discontinued?

Fuck it, we’ll make our own ACR! With blackjack, and hookers!

$3600 MP7 clone that sucks a fat noodle? We’ll make our own MP7, in 5.7, with blackjack, and hookers!

Surefire coming out with a $3000+ 6mm? Geissele making one for the same, only with $100 magazines?

You know how the chorus goes, sing it with me now!”
1/20/2025 4:43:11 PM EDT
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Its an incredibly good business model.
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Certainly works on me.  Still keeping my gen 1
1/20/2025 4:46:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Now I'm glad I didn't have the money to buy a Jakl yet.
1/20/2025 4:51:25 PM EDT
[#44]
My biggest complaint about my Jakl is the damn plastic stock/brace adapter.  There is too much side to side play in it and it ruins the rifle for me.
1/20/2025 4:52:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Hey! Ambi controls!

This replaces the BRN-180 v3 on my 2025 list.
1/20/2025 4:56:08 PM EDT
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That's the VUK.

THE VUK - Product Update | Soviet Arms
1/20/2025 4:56:50 PM EDT
[#47]
They got rid of the gay ass wings at the rear of the lower.  


I can't hear vid right now.  What's that stock and is it using the same hinge as something else?
1/20/2025 4:57:05 PM EDT
[#48]
Wow! Thanks assholes. Can I trade in the Jakl i just bought two weeks ago?
1/20/2025 4:58:04 PM EDT
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Probably will put a hurting on Robinson Arms.

I love the XCR, but their ordering process is slow and cumbersome. PSA is much easier, and if things are available such as barrels and parts then it will take a chunk from that market.
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That's my thinking. This or Robinson XCR?

I'm not sure the JAKL is as durable as the XCR though.
1/20/2025 4:58:53 PM EDT
[#50]
Stop pinning and welding proprietary suppressor mounts on the <16" barrels!

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