That's probably less then they lost to "Stop The Steal".

I'm curious if Macros would vote for a Massie ticket.

How much did exporting industry to China cost the working class? I don't need a study to tell me that it's a lot more than $1,700 a year. At some point you are going to have to start getting your rubber dogshit from some other place.

Trump did not spend 5 decades creating the China problem. That was all the globalist faggots and Communist Democrats who hate him. Trump was the first one to actually started doing something about it.

My favorite part of Chinese diplomacy was when they wouldn't let Obama off of his plane. Treated him like a complete bitch... And got away with it, because that is what he is.

"He (Trump) was posturing to the nation that if people did something, they could change the result of the election."

"I think Trump is at fault here," and added that "there were a whole host of my colleagues who were just frankly terrified of the base that Trump had misled."

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/22/heres-what-kentuckys-congressmen-have-said-about-jan-6-insurrection/69508738007/

"The text of the Constitution is clear. States select electors. Congress does not. Accordingly, our path forward is also clear. We must respect the states’ authority here. Though doing so may frustrate our immediate political objectives, we have sworn an oath to promote the Constitution above our policy goals. We must count the electoral votes submitted by the states."

https://massie.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=395317

Massie seems to have read the Constitution and have some respect for it. I'd have to review his policy positions, but so far I haven't found anything that would rule him out by default.

You could have just said you don't understand how Tariffs work.

This is what Trump was saying during those years...

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" "I think she is going to go down at a minimum as a great senator. I think she is a great wife to a president." - DJT

While the Chicoms weren't letting Obama off the plane Trump was busy asking him for Cabinet picks.

Trump says he’s consulted Obama on Cabinet picks

You just don’t understand real estate.

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keep pushing MSM propaganda, 'principled conservatives'.

The problem is Trump doesn’t want to get rid of thousands of government employees, he wants to replace thousands of career employees with political appointees loyal to him.

It’s hilarious.  Hand him a wrench and he probably gets confused about which end to use

At some point, you'll need to stop trying to justify your arguments based on what you want to believe is true and tossing out non-sequiturs like you're Trump at a rally.

My statement concerned the efficacy of Trump's tariff proposals and how they would help or not help the middle class.

You claimed that Trump was the "first one" to do "something about it."

As is often the case, what he did made things worse, not better. Did it help the US economy to have products produced off-shore in Vietnam instead of China, or when common products saw price increases due to shortages of critical components?

"Semiconductors are perhaps the most telling example of product shortages during the pandemic. The scarcity of chips led automakers to reduce their output in 2021, impacting employment through furloughs in a politically and economically important sector. (In figure 4, panels b and c, data for semiconductors alone are in volume, as opposed to dollar value, terms.)

US imports of semiconductors from China remain 26 percent lower than before the imposition of 25 percent tariffs (panel b).  Though imports have increased recently, as late as June 2021, US import volumes from China remained more than 50 percent below pre-trade war levels. Prior to July 2018, China had 47 percent of the US import market in volume terms (panel c). This share fell immediately after the tariffs were imposed, reaching only 39 percent today. Yet, import volumes from the rest of the world have expanded only by 5 percent (see again panel b).

This problem became clear when just one missing chip kept the manufacturing of products ranging from cars to refrigerators to washing machines from being finished. In volume terms, lost imports of semiconductors from China were not being fully replaced from elsewhere."

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/four-years-trade-war-are-us-and-china-decoupling

China bought none of the extra $200 billion of US exports in Trump's trade deal

In the end, China bought only 58 percent of the US exports it had committed to purchase under the agreement, not even enough to reach its import levels from before the trade war.[1] Put differently, China bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports Trump's deal had promised.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2022/china-bought-none-extra-200-billion-us-exports-trumps-trade-deal

"The evidence is clear—the Trump tariffs have failed and the costs on the U.S. economy continue to pile up. Examining all the comments submitted to the USTR for the Section 301 review confirms that harm caused by the tariffs is widespread, significant, and counterproductive to U.S. goals to discipline China’s behavior."

https://www.cfr.org/blog/cost-trumps-trade-war-china-still-adding

That's okay, you don't need facts or studies. Trump will tell you what you need to know, or you'll just make up something comforting to believe.

you're gonna have to back this up.

rest assured that i'm well versed in tool use, trump hater.  

All in for Kamala!

All in for Kamala!

Says the ardent Harris supporter.

True genius?

lol, come on man. Donald Trump is many things, but genius isn’t one. Not even close. If he hadn’t inherited a couple hundred million from his dad, he’d be selling used cars in Hoboken.

Enthusiastic voters of radical left wing DEI communists shouldn't talk down to others.

An enthusiastic liar concerning my positions seems really triggered this morning. Please take a few minutes to calm yourself.

he's a uniter.  

Hundreds of former Bush, Romney, and McCain aides endorse Kamala Harris over Trump https://t.co/5RYqSsJYkf

John Solomon  (@jsolomonReports) August 27, 2024

Tell me you at least read a summary of Project 2025?   Okay, I should be more accurate.  Trump’s P2025 team wants to reclassify, not reduce, senior federal employees.  Trump’s part is supporting the idea, because he knows what happens when employees are more loyal to the enduring organization than they are to the temporary boss.   Basically, turning the few thousand SES grade personnel into appointees who serve at the pleasure of the administration.  He’s not touching several hundred thousand GS employees.  He tried during his first term but Biden immediately reversed it.  

I know the unenlightened have a case of the ass about federal employees, but that’s why a form 4 took 8 months during the Trump admin and 8 days during Biden’s, or why a veteran gets his VA claim denied during the Trump admin and approved during Biden’s.

FFS.  somebody else tell him.  

@iveseenalittleontv

Still waiting for an answer.

More like “all in for Chase”, but thanks for playing.

So, you didn’t read a summary of the document :/

When prominent party members, and countless members of his former administration (that he chose) have abandoned him, declaring his absolute unfitness for office, most people understand. Yes, I know in Trumplandia such a thing is viewed as a compliment and an attribute. But Trumplandia isn’t the real world.

A True Genius.

Thanks, @iveseenalittleontv  I needed a good laugh this morning. He is a genius at grifting and hoodwinking the gullible that is for sure.

But you're not well versed in reading, because my post had nothing do to with you

here's the science that you're so scandalized i dare to question:

Source: Fox News Poll •
Conducted: August 9-12, 2024
Respective MoE: +/- 3%, 4.5%, 4.5%

Source: Fox News Poll •
Conducted: August 9-12, 2024
Harris & Trump Supporters +/- 4% Pts.

Source: Fox News Poll •
Conducted: August 9-12, 2024
Registered Voters +/- 3% Pts.

Methodology Notes:
Conducted under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R), Fox News national surveys include interviews with a representative sample of approximately 1,200 registered voters who were randomly selected from a national registered voter list sourced from Aristotle. About 75% of completed interviews are with respondents on the telephone (roughly 15% on landlines and 85% cellphones) and the remainder are with respondents contacted by text message who then complete the survey online. The total sample has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. When necessary, minor weights are used to ensure the demographics of survey respondents are representative of the national registered voter population. All sample frames are weighted together. Generally, weights are applied to age, race, education, and area variables. The Fox News poll is not weighted by party identification. (statement updated February 2024) For a more detailed methodology statement, click the last link on the right-hand side.

what weights?  sample frames?  how about the aristotle list, is it truly random or just 'random' as so many skewed polls have been proven to be in the past?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-methodology-statement-3

quite a lot of verbiage to cover 'approximately' 1200 voters.  

a simple search of the issues that Beacon Research and Shaw & Company Research have had in the past show that the science is not in fact settled.  Neither are any of the accuracy issues that fox themselves had and continue to have.

contrast that with a simple, voluntary poll conducted in a much shorter span - while Musk upfront admitted it was unscientific- that has over 6 million responses.  

your contention is that the establishment delivers more accurate results while an x poll delivers no results at all because it doesn't follow any of the same rules.

you ignore that a trivial sample size tightly controlled is next to meaningless, while insisting that a laughably huge sample size is completely meaningless because the only control on it is an internet connection and an X login.

you contend that i'm wrong because you're a trump hater and i'm not.  You follow the rules and i don't.

here's what you miss entirely-

science is about delivering a result, as it has been for decades.  because it's their job.  because they get paid to do it.  

each poll of 1,200 people cost tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars in total.  

musk's poll took the sunk costs of servers that are running anyway, plus a few minutes of his time.  

once you reduce the equation down far enough it always comes down to money if you're on one side.

the other side is the people.

That is literally the dumbest thing I've ever read.

You are wrong because you don't understand mathematics.

And you still didn't answer the question.

Good to see people standing up against Tyranny.

your 'real world' is 25% and shrinking.

You’re 100% paid to spread this crap

Imagine listening to Trump speak off the cuff, and thinking to yourself, “now that right there is a smart man.”

Just a shout out to fat guys who need bras and hate Trump.

Make it a great day, fellas!

Source?

Sorry, not all of us went to private school

You could just say that you love the taste of globalist cock and think that continuing to grow China's economy is going to turn out great for us in the long run.

Let's hear this master plan that anyone else has for getting us off of China slave labor with zero cost and pain.

No let's just pout about it and blame it all on Trump like a child.

Read the Q guy's post earlier in this thread.

Clearly.

Trump did not write Project 2025
Trump did not promote or endorse Project 2025.
Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025.

I made it big because clearly you have difficulties understanding.

It''s pure fantasy nonsense cooked up by retarded liberals. Why did you fall for it?

It’s 93 pages. You can hardly expect me to find the same person you are thinking about.

Ayup

"you ignore that a trivial sample size tightly controlled is next to meaningless, while insisting that a laughably huge sample size is completely meaningless because the only control on it is an internet connection and an X login."

A "laughably huge sample size" is meaningless if the sampling isn't random and controlled. A "trivial sample size" tightly controlled is not meaningless or "next to" it. A small sample size for a large population is expected so long as the sampling is random and properly controlled. A Twitter poll is neither random nor controlled.

Angela Merkel has a PhD in quantum chemistry.


Your moron can’t even complete a coherent sentence.


But memes!!!

Why isn't Trump's own pollster touting the Twitter poll, and instead says the Harvard-Harris poll better captures Trump's actual numbers?

I can't believe we're debating the validity of a twitter poll. LMAO.

The fact that he is denying sound math as somehow partisan is fucking hilarious.  Truly this guy will believe whatever he wants.

She's also a Communist retard who flooded her country with Syrian criminals. She did so many stupid things, I don't have the time or inclination to type them out.

Degrees do not equate to intelligence. She's a fucking idiot.

Let me guess.  You think Trump is a brilliant businessman.