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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:34:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: eagarminuteman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Are you trying to assert he got more people addicted to .gov handouts or something? Certainly didn't work with me or any of my friends. How much .gov money was spent on the Trump bux program and other Covid welfare like freezing rent payments? That’s just ignoring the fact that he wanted to spend even more money on stimmy checks and all the other Covid welfare bullshit. Thank goodness Congress republicans fought Dems on it, because it wasn’t going to happen if it reached the Oval Office. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:36:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Never_A_Wick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Getting help from a stupid, liberal, chick. LOL! Can't make this shit up. ( You haven't proven anything, and I don't care enough to ask for it. People lie all the time ) Don’t like the meme? Take it up with admin. It’s on point. I can prove it quite easily. Put your money where your mouth is. Let’s say $3K? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:36:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: lol we have reduced political existence in this nation to a dynamic nothing more than which candidate can lie and pander to the masses more effectively. The democrats have nominated a no talent cackling whore DEI hire, while the republicans nominated a geriatric left leaning nincompoop conman who has cost the party the last 3 elections. This is not an endorsement of representative government.  That's depressing when you look at it that way. It almost makes me think we should ask the British Monarchy back, old King Charles III might do better. This statement is hyperbole of course.
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:36:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: How many trump bux checks did you get? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: I suspect all never trumpers to be either incredibly stupid or they have their face in the trough. How many trump bux checks did you get? I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. It didn't work. To me, it's kind of like driving on .gov provided roads. ( I don't think that's the greatest analogy, but I'm not putting any more head time in it. The important people know where I'm going with that ) |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:36:50 PM EST
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:37:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alwaysright: It was not the best run for POTUS I've seen. However, he's light years ahead of Trump regarding issues and results. But it doesn't matter at this point, because here we are. Some of us labeled Never Trump will vote for Trump and some like me will not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alwaysright: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: I think the biggest reason Ron lost so badly, was the fact that it was obvious that the establishment Republicans much preferred him to Trump. He isn't weak, but he presents as a weakling or weaker and less decisive man at times. Some of that was displayed when he needed to put his best foot forward. That matters way more than it should in a national election. Especially for the right, and especially against Trump. It was not the best run for POTUS I've seen. However, he's light years ahead of Trump regarding issues and results. But it doesn't matter at this point, because here we are. Some of us labeled Never Trump will vote for Trump and some like me will not. He has been a great governor, but you can't really compare the two offices and say he is light years ahead, they are very different. There were a few times I got the feeling that Desantis was not ready for the bigger stage, and the corrupt DC bureaucrats would eat his lunch even worse than they did to Trump. After COVID, I wanted a better candidate than Trump, and hoped it could be Ron, but that was handily decided very early on. He is doing a lot of great things in Florida, and it would suck to have him go to DC, lose that, then get tied down and be ineffective as POTUS. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:38:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. Bet you cashed it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:40:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Don’t like the meme? Take it up with admin. It’s on point. I can prove it quite easily. Put your money where your mouth is. Let’s say $3K? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Getting help from a stupid, liberal, chick. LOL! Can't make this shit up. ( You haven't proven anything, and I don't care enough to ask for it. People lie all the time ) Don’t like the meme? Take it up with admin. It’s on point. I can prove it quite easily. Put your money where your mouth is. Let’s say $3K? Nope. I'm do not bet people. Ever. I simply do not care what you think. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:41:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: He could have said he wanted all guns to be confiscated tomorrow. Still just words. Basically meaningless in politics. Do I like those words? No. Do I think it really matters? No. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Okay. He showed diplomacy by telling Feinstein she should add her AWB into his gun control bill. That's my point. He could have said he wanted all guns to be confiscated tomorrow. Still just words. Basically meaningless in politics. Do I like those words? No. Do I think it really matters? No. Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:42:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. Yep. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:43:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: But holy fuck. I just took 10+ days away from here and the same people are still going in circles. I hate election years. It's just one big fun circle-jerk and someone is going to win the soggy biscuit. 
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:43:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: He could have said he wanted all guns to be confiscated tomorrow. Still just words. Basically meaningless in politics. Do I like those words? No. Do I think it really matters? No. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:45:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar: Sadly true. Even more sad is the "Right" supports this type of thing now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Trump spent more money getting people “in the trough” than any other president in history. Sadly true. Even more sad is the "Right" supports this type of thing now. That's not what I'm seeing with the people I know well (admittedly a small group). A number of us were happy to see Musk take Trump to task on spending and call for less spending. Sadly Trump's response was unimpressive platitudes. Spending is squarely on Congress. Slim chance any want to reduce spending, much less enough to make a change. There is zero hopes for a smaller budget and lower spending with a Dem Congress and Kamala. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:46:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: So really Trump could say anything and as long as it doesn't happen it doesn't matter. It also can't be used as an argument not to support him. I would agree with you before and during the primaries. But we're way past that. Trump said lots of silly shit. Now we have to decide if that matters more than having another 4-8 years of democrats. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:47:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. It didn't work. To me, it's kind of like driving on .gov provided roads. ( I don't think that's the greatest analogy, but I'm not putting any more head time in it. The important people know where I'm going with that ) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: I suspect all never trumpers to be either incredibly stupid or they have their face in the trough. How many trump bux checks did you get? I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. It didn't work. To me, it's kind of like driving on .gov provided roads. ( I don't think that's the greatest analogy, but I'm not putting any more head time in it. The important people know where I'm going with that ) You didn't vote for trump? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:47:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: That's not what I'm seeing with the people I know well (admittedly a small group). A number of us were happy to see Musk take Trump to task on spending and call for less spending. Sadly Trump's response was unimpressive platitudes. Spending is squarely on Congress. Slim chance any want to reduce spending, much less enough to make a change. There is zero hopes for a smaller budget and lower spending with a Dem Congress and Kamala. The government is never going to shrink. Ever. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:47:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: You didn't vote for trump? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: I suspect all never trumpers to be either incredibly stupid or they have their face in the trough. How many trump bux checks did you get? I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. It didn't work. To me, it's kind of like driving on .gov provided roads. ( I don't think that's the greatest analogy, but I'm not putting any more head time in it. The important people know where I'm going with that ) You didn't vote for trump? Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:49:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I would agree with you before and during the primaries. But we're way past that. Trump said lots of silly shit. Now we have to decide if that matters more than having another 4-8 years of democrats. With just a handful of exceptions, most of us will be voting against Kamala Harris. You can circle Trump’s name on the ballot and still recognize precisely who he is, and lament a binary choice between two amazingly terrible options. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:50:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Bet you cashed it. I hope all y'all that got Trump Bux got some enjoyment out of it and if you did (and spent it,) know YOU'RE part of the problem. Signed, those of us who were taxed excessively to pay for it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:52:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: The government is never going to shrink. Ever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: That's not what I'm seeing with the people I know well (admittedly a small group). A number of us were happy to see Musk take Trump to task on spending and call for less spending. Sadly Trump's response was unimpressive platitudes. Spending is squarely on Congress. Slim chance any want to reduce spending, much less enough to make a change. There is zero hopes for a smaller budget and lower spending with a Dem Congress and Kamala. The government is never going to shrink. Ever. Even Reagan who talked the biggest and best spending cuts... Loved to spend bigly. Gingrich and the 90s R's actually did a pretty good job, but the deal he did with the Clinton devils absolutely fucked us 10 years later. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:53:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: The government is never going to shrink. Ever. “If elected president, I will veto every spending bill that adds a dollar to our national debt. I will make congress do their job in a responsible manner for once.” |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:54:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: With just a handful of exceptions, most of us will be voting against Kamala Harris. You can circle Trump’s name on the ballot and still recognize precisely who he is, and lament a binary choice between two amazingly terrible options. I know. And I hate saying things like this but, "it is what it is." |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:54:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Nope. I'm do not bet people. Ever. I simply do not care what you think. Yeah. That’s why you ASSumed and then said “GOTEEM!”  Again… pathetic. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:55:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: I hope all y'all that got Trump Bux got some enjoyment out of it and if you did (and spent it,) know YOU'RE part of the problem. Signed, those of us who were taxed excessively to pay for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Bet you cashed it. I hope all y'all that got Trump Bux got some enjoyment out of it and if you did (and spent it,) know YOU'RE part of the problem. Signed, those of us who were taxed excessively to pay for it. It's not remotely paid for by tax money. Enjoying $15 McDonald's value meals and ~30%+ higher prices on just about everything since then? That's how we are all paying for it. Your tax dollars get spent on basic stuff, then there's more, then there's extra stuff like what we are talking about... And the difference gets made up with money printer go brrrr |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:58:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Party nominated and selected delegates would be exponentially more qualified to choose the party’s nominee than the general electorate. You should check out the Va GOP before you make that statement. Not criticizing, just saying. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:58:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: I suspect all never trumpers to be either incredibly stupid or they have their face in the trough. How many trump bux checks did you get? I didn't ask for it. I didn't vote for it. I don't have my hand out looking for more. It didn't work. To me, it's kind of like driving on .gov provided roads. ( I don't think that's the greatest analogy, but I'm not putting any more head time in it. The important people know where I'm going with that ) You didn't vote for trump? Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Am I? You claimed someone else had their face on the trough. Turns out you did too. We all did. Then you claimed you didn't vote for it when you clearly did. It's okay, I did too. Now you're foolishly judging others for somehow profiting for voting against trump (when that's not really even what's happening) when YOU profited from the last trump admin. Maybe if you guys would actually debate instead of making these fucking stupid assertions we could avoid all this unpleasantness. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 4:59:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: “If elected president, I will veto every spending bill that adds a dollar to our national debt. I will make congress do their job in a responsible manner for once.” I would never take a statement like that seriously. Regardless of who said it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:00:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: I'm not voting for him because of that (admittedly cool) picture. Soy boy? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:01:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: It's not remotely paid for by tax money. Enjoying $15 McDonald's value meals and ~30%+ higher prices on just about everything since then? That's how we are all paying for it. Your tax dollars get spent on basic stuff, then there's more, then there's extra stuff like what we are talking about... And the difference gets made up with money printer go brrrr Wut? Those funds directly came out of “the budget,” partially paid for by tax revenue and the rest in debt. To be fair, the inflation at that point was barely noticeable. The whole COVID situation was a shitshow that just about every Republican failed as well. Trump spent a shitton of money he shouldn’t have. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:03:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. 
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:05:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: I hope all y'all that got Trump Bux got some enjoyment out of it and if you did (and spent it,) know YOU'RE part of the problem. Signed, those of us who were taxed excessively to pay for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Bet you cashed it. I hope all y'all that got Trump Bux got some enjoyment out of it and if you did (and spent it,) know YOU'RE part of the problem. Signed, those of us who were taxed excessively to pay for it. That's me on the signature as well. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:06:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I would never take a statement like that seriously. Regardless of who said it. Well, we haven’t had a conservative executive with stones large enough to mean it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:15:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I would agree with you before and during the primaries. But we're way past that. Trump said lots of silly shit. Now we have to decide if that matters more than having another 4-8 years of democrats. So we have spiraled back to he’s not as bad as Harris so you must vote for him? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:20:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: One page ago you were denying it was said. Now you're admitting he was working with Democrats on gun control by suggesting they can add their AWB into his bill. This fucking place. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. Sorry you can't follow the conversation. As I said, it is true that Trump has not unequivocally stated support for an AWB since entering politics. Yes he did have a general conversation about considering or looking at some anti-2A things in a bipartisan meeting discussing a possible bill, that was ultimately meaningless. If you watch the video, he doesn't really say anything of substance whatsoever. Meaningless platitudes at best. So Dianne got all excited and horny over it. So what. I hope that when she found out she had been duped, that stress is what killed her. So yes, those of you who keep saying and implying that he is the same as Kamala on 2A are completely full of shit. Or maybe you can just easily post up a video like this that shows Trump is the same and calls for AWB in virtually every speech he gives.  Vice President Kamala Harris addresses gun control, economy and more in Houston |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:21:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: So we have spiraled back to he’s not as bad as Harris so you must vote for him? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By TaskForce: I would agree with you before and during the primaries. But we're way past that. Trump said lots of silly shit. Now we have to decide if that matters more than having another 4-8 years of democrats. So we have spiraled back to he’s not as bad as Harris so you must vote for him? Reality must be a real bitch when you have TDS. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:22:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: So we have spiraled back to he’s not as bad as Harris so you must vote for him? I have been incredibly consistent. We will likely get more conservative judges and maybe one SCOTUS justice if we get an R admin. If I am going to care about politics at all that is what would matter to me with this election. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:25:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I have been incredibly consistent. We will likely get more conservative judges and maybe one SCOTUS justice if we get an R admin. If I am going to care about politics at all that is what would matter to me with this election. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By GutWrench: So we have spiraled back to he’s not as bad as Harris so you must vote for him? I have been incredibly consistent. We will likely get more conservative judges and maybe one SCOTUS justice if we get an R admin. If I am going to care about politics at all that is what would matter to me with this election. It would also be nice to get Team Obama out of the WH before they get us fully engulfed in WWIII. Democrat foreign policy has been an unmitigated disaster since JFK bungled the bay of pigs. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:26:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: It would be also be nice to get Team Obama out of the WH before they get us fully engulfed in WWIII. That too. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:43:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Reality must be a real bitch when you have TDS. I am about done with you. You talk in circles like Kamala Harris. Going to lump you into the delusional Trump for life people. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 5:43:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I have been incredibly consistent. We will likely get more conservative judges and maybe one SCOTUS justice if we get an R admin. If I am going to care about politics at all that is what would matter to me with this election. Fair enough. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:19:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Sorry you can't follow the conversation. As I said, it is true that Trump has not unequivocally stated support for an AWB since entering politics. Yes he did have a general conversation about considering or looking at some anti-2A things in a bipartisan meeting discussing a possible bill, that was ultimately meaningless. If you watch the video, he doesn't really say anything of substance whatsoever. Meaningless platitudes at best. So Dianne got all excited and horny over it. So what. I hope that when she found out she had been duped, that stress is what killed her. So yes, those of you who keep saying and implying that he is the same as Kamala on 2A are completely full of shit. Or maybe you can just easily post up a video like this that shows Trump is the same and calls for AWB in virtually every speech he gives.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i4bzFOqDygQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. Sorry you can't follow the conversation. As I said, it is true that Trump has not unequivocally stated support for an AWB since entering politics. Yes he did have a general conversation about considering or looking at some anti-2A things in a bipartisan meeting discussing a possible bill, that was ultimately meaningless. If you watch the video, he doesn't really say anything of substance whatsoever. Meaningless platitudes at best. So Dianne got all excited and horny over it. So what. I hope that when she found out she had been duped, that stress is what killed her. So yes, those of you who keep saying and implying that he is the same as Kamala on 2A are completely full of shit. Or maybe you can just easily post up a video like this that shows Trump is the same and calls for AWB in virtually every speech he gives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i4bzFOqDyg"He never said that! You're a liar for suggesting he did! Hur dur MSM propaganda! You're a communist for suggesting he said that!!!" "Okay he said it but he didn't unequivocally say it!" "He was just using an assault weapons ban as a negotiating tactic but since it never passed he didn't actually mean it! It was a meaningless platitude!!" I also have never said that he is the same on the 2nd Amendment as Kamala Harris. Do you at all see the irony when you keep falsely accusing other people of lying then turn around and accuse people of saying things they have never said? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:25:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: How much .gov money was spent on the Trump bux program and other Covid welfare like freezing rent payments? That's just ignoring the fact that he wanted to spend even more money on stimmy checks and all the other Covid welfare bullshit. Thank goodness Congress republicans fought Dems on it, because it wasn't going to happen if it reached the Oval Office. Congress voted for and allowed the Covid crap happen, they are all guilty. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:29:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: That happens when you freeze the economy and make folks shut down businesses. Congress voted for and allowed the Covid crap happen, they are all guilty. Correct, the members of Congress that passed it and the POTUS that signed it and pushed for more are guilty. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:35:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: That happens when you freeze the economy and make folks shut down businesses. Congress voted for and allowed the Covid crap happen, they are all guilty. Yes. And the chief executive went right along with it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:41:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: It's not remotely paid for by tax money. Enjoying $15 McDonald's value meals and ~30%+ higher prices on just about everything since then? That's how we are all paying for it. Your tax dollars get spent on basic stuff, then there's more, then there's extra stuff like what we are talking about... And the difference gets made up with money printer go brrrr |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 8:45:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Yes. And the chief executive went right along with it. If the gov shuts down a business for a pandemic, they get to reimburse the owners for lost wages. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:00:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: That happens when you freeze the economy and make folks shut down businesses. Congress voted for and allowed the Covid crap happen, they are all guilty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: How much .gov money was spent on the Trump bux program and other Covid welfare like freezing rent payments? That's just ignoring the fact that he wanted to spend even more money on stimmy checks and all the other Covid welfare bullshit. Thank goodness Congress republicans fought Dems on it, because it wasn't going to happen if it reached the Oval Office. Congress voted for and allowed the Covid crap happen, they are all guilty. Everyone that held any meaningful government office from Mar 2020 to 2023 should be forever shunned from any government position. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:04:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: Nobody can follow the conversation when the narrative keeps changing. "He never said that! You're a liar for suggesting he did! Hur dur MSM propaganda! You're a communist for suggesting he said that!!!" "Okay he said it but he didn't unequivocally say it!" "He was just using an assault weapons ban as a negotiating tactic but since it never passed he didn't actually mean it! It was a meaningless platitude!!" I also have never said that he is the same on the 2nd Amendment as Kamala Harris. Do you at all see the irony when you keep falsely accusing other people of lying then turn around and accuse people of saying things they have never said? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Basic bipartisan and teamwork stuff is lost on a lot of people. Lots of things get said with zero meaning "There are no stupid questions" "Let's work together" "good idea we'll consider it" "sure thing write it up and send it over" "we love your proposal" Very often these are just nice ways of saying shut up and fuck off. Sorry you can't follow the conversation. As I said, it is true that Trump has not unequivocally stated support for an AWB since entering politics. Yes he did have a general conversation about considering or looking at some anti-2A things in a bipartisan meeting discussing a possible bill, that was ultimately meaningless. If you watch the video, he doesn't really say anything of substance whatsoever. Meaningless platitudes at best. So Dianne got all excited and horny over it. So what. I hope that when she found out she had been duped, that stress is what killed her. So yes, those of you who keep saying and implying that he is the same as Kamala on 2A are completely full of shit. Or maybe you can just easily post up a video like this that shows Trump is the same and calls for AWB in virtually every speech he gives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i4bzFOqDyg"He never said that! You're a liar for suggesting he did! Hur dur MSM propaganda! You're a communist for suggesting he said that!!!" "Okay he said it but he didn't unequivocally say it!" "He was just using an assault weapons ban as a negotiating tactic but since it never passed he didn't actually mean it! It was a meaningless platitude!!" I also have never said that he is the same on the 2nd Amendment as Kamala Harris. Do you at all see the irony when you keep falsely accusing other people of lying then turn around and accuse people of saying things they have never said? It hasn't changed once, and we have done this entire routine at least 3 times. You just aren't following the thread, then pop in and post the same video that's already been posted 87 times. Which is pretty understandable given how stupid this thread is. Trump still never called for or supported an AWB as the NTs love to claim over and over. Nor is he just as bad or the same on the 2A as Harris as many like to claim. He is significantly different and better on the 2A, but obviously far short of what anyone here would prefer. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:05:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Everyone paid for the Covid checks Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: It's not remotely paid for by tax money. Enjoying $15 McDonald's value meals and ~30%+ higher prices on just about everything since then? That's how we are all paying for it. Your tax dollars get spent on basic stuff, then there's more, then there's extra stuff like what we are talking about... And the difference gets made up with money printer go brrrr And we will all continue to pay for decades going forward. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:14:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Shake: Do you at all see the irony when you keep falsely accusing other people of lying then turn around and accuse people of saying things they have never said? Why would he? He worships Trump, who never let a fact get in the way of what he wanted to say. The "Harris faked her rally photos with AI" screeching was quietly abandoned. A few nights ago Trump referred to man arrested at the Johnstown rally as "one of us" and spoke admiringly of what he perceived as someone going after the media. His own campaign later reported the man was anti-Trump. (We should know the truth of it later this week.) If Trump told you that the sun was rising, there's a 70% chance he's lying about it, and his supporters would gasp in delight over how bright the darkness was. The culture he's embraced is built on "lie big, lie often, lie more than any politician ever has before, and never acknowledge that you lied." So, be gentle with Mentigeek. All he has left is to pattern his behavior after Trump. |
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