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Originally Posted By mcculver5: So, I think a person could look at 2020 and believe the election was stolen. Just as one can believe someone committed a crime but have insufficient proof. I can also believe, based on evidence in this election, that the same opportunity to steal the election was not present in 2024 because of heightened scrutiny. Easy. I don't require existential certainty to come to an everyday conclusion. Hope that explanation helps. Even friendly DAs can only hide so much horseshit and do so much lawfare. It doesn't always work out. View Quote While I don't come to the same conclusion, this is a pretty fair take. |
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Originally Posted By Kihn: Putting in place the ability to stop dead people from voting, and illegals, so on and as much made it possible for there not to be that many voters. https://i.postimg.cc/2SRB72hB/Gbs-TOv-Xo-BAv5-o.png Dems down 14 million votes from 2020. Weird. View Quote And you don't mention the massive fluctuation in the red bar. Yeah, weird. |
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Originally Posted By Low_Country: Watch the clip in this tweet. There was not a single county in which Harris outperformed Biden from 2020. I’d argue that simply blaming 2020 on fraud, and failing to take an objective look at what happened, and why so many people were turned away from Trump is precisely “sticking your head in the sand”. Trump has been given a second chance. A clean slate, if you will. The nation rejected him in 2020, and soundly rejected Harris and the leftist agenda 4 years later. Let’s hope he has learned from his first term and is more prepared to effectively take advantage of the opportunity now presented. View Quote The uneducated make up the bulk of Trump's support, and that didn't change in 2024. He lost a big chunk of educated white men in 2020, and they didn't come back in 2024. The economy, obviously, was a huge driver. People who thought the economy was poor the last four years were a +42 for Trump. Democrats lost their lead among those who feel abortion should be legal in most cases. It turned out not to be an issue on average, though it may impact specific races. Moderates embraced Trump over Harris. She lost half of Biden's support there. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/politics/2020-2016-exit-polls-2024-dg/ Opinion: Harris failed to separate herself from the Biden economy, and worse, she made comments that chained her to it. "I wouldn't change a thing." Blunder. Picking Walz over Shapiro, assuming Shapiro didn't decline, was a blunder. Trump hid under the table rather than have a second debate against Harris. That was a smart move strategically for him. 7 out of 10 Americans felt that America needed a change, which ties back to Harris' inability to create space between her and Biden. In that sense, Democrats would've been much better off replacing Biden with someone other than Harris. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/economy-ranked-as-a-top-issue-but-concerns-over-democracy-drove-many-voters-to-polls-ap-votecast-shows |
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Democrats at work were very quiet today. Almost somber.
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: Democrats at work were very quiet today. Almost somber. View Quote Scott Is A Crybaby and Cartman Licks his Tears |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Democrats at work were very quiet today. Almost somber. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfFeEcbHEVs |
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Originally Posted By Kihn: It's like three million votes. Duh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kihn: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: And you don't mention the massive fluctuation in the red bar. Yeah, weird. It's like three million votes. Duh. Less of an anomaly, but still an anomaly. He won in 16 and 24 and you guys just can't accept that he could have lost in 20. |
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Originally Posted By MK3110: A few no shows in my office today View Quote It’s crazy how much this affects peoples lives. I like talking about it politics but at the end of the day. All I can do is cast 1 single vote. Same as them. For me to get butthurt and call in sick or walk around with my head down just seems silly. Politics has become like a sport for the masses. Some pick a team or in the case of Trump they pick a canidate and ride them to the end cheering like a high school pep squad. Hyping themselves up so much that if your team or candidate loses it hits them like a death in the family. All for a person or persons they have never met in their lives. It’s strange to me. Intriguing.. but strange. |
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Originally Posted By Kihn: It's like three million votes. Duh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kihn: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: And you don't mention the massive fluctuation in the red bar. Yeah, weird. It's like three million votes. Duh. I think another million plus have rolled in since that was made. The delta for the Donald between 20 and 24 is around 2 million. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: So an increase or decrease is only notable if it props up your theory, otherwise it’s just insignificant? Huh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Kihn: It's like three million votes. Duh. So an increase or decrease is only notable if it props up your theory, otherwise it’s just insignificant? Huh. A 20% Delta vs a 3% Delta in the numbers, and you wonder why people look at one as more significant? |
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Originally Posted By macros73: Unchecked craziness on either side is a worry. That’s partly why I voted for McCormick over Casey. That, and Casey came out in favor of ending the filibuster. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By macros73: https://i.imgflip.com/99i6wm.jpg Your chart appears based on counted ballots. Not all ballots have been counted. There are nearly 7 million ballots still uncounted in California, alone. This is what happens when you blindly accept unvetted information from trash sites like ZeroHedge without exercising due diligence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Kihn: It's like three million votes. Duh. So an increase or decrease is only notable if it props up your theory, otherwise it’s just insignificant? Huh. A 20% Delta vs a 3% Delta in the numbers, and you wonder why people look at one as more significant? https://i.imgflip.com/99i6wm.jpg Your chart appears based on counted ballots. Not all ballots have been counted. There are nearly 7 million ballots still uncounted in California, alone. This is what happens when you blindly accept unvetted information from trash sites like ZeroHedge without exercising due diligence. She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. |
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Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Kihn: It's like three million votes. Duh. So an increase or decrease is only notable if it props up your theory, otherwise it’s just insignificant? Huh. A 20% Delta vs a 3% Delta in the numbers, and you wonder why people look at one as more significant? https://i.imgflip.com/99i6wm.jpg Your chart appears based on counted ballots. Not all ballots have been counted. There are nearly 7 million ballots still uncounted in California, alone. This is what happens when you blindly accept unvetted information from trash sites like ZeroHedge without exercising due diligence. She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. Typical. Put your back into those goal posts, you can do it! Try leading with: "Oh, you're right. That graph I spent pages defending was complete bullshit, let's revisit it when the count is complete." VEP % in 2024 is going to end up roughly on par with 2020. Both were significantly higher than 2016. You have to go back to 1908 to see turnout % as high as the past two elections. That's not clear evidence of fraud. It's clear evidence of more people voting after our ocuntry spent decades around the 40% turnout mark. |
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Originally Posted By Johnny666: The “Democrats” in Philly have already started to loot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Johnny666: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Democrats at work were very quiet today. Almost somber. The “Democrats” in Philly have already started to loot. Source? |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Less of an anomaly, but still an anomaly. He won in 16 and 24 and you guys just can't accept that he could have lost in 20. View Quote How about it's statistically very improbable? That super spike is what you call a clue. Not an anomaly. Especially in the time of rapey incest forced deliveries. |
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Brought back from the beyond to be a half-dead short-bus riding seat warmer in the Dracula factory.
Esteemed grain-grower & reactionary defender of True Justice, in a death struggle with the Karen quo. *Do not Karen-tinize the Eschaton!!!* |
Originally Posted By macros73: Typical. Put your back into those goal posts, you can do it! Try leading with: "Oh, you're right. That graph I spent pages defending was complete bullshit, let's revisit it when the count is complete." VEP % in 2024 is going to end up roughly on par with 2020. Both were significantly higher than 2016. You have to go back to 1908 to see turnout % as high as the past two elections. That's not clear evidence of fraud. It's clear evidence of more people voting after our ocuntry spent decades around the 40% turnout mark. View Quote The superspike in 2020 is not going to change. |
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Brought back from the beyond to be a half-dead short-bus riding seat warmer in the Dracula factory.
Esteemed grain-grower & reactionary defender of True Justice, in a death struggle with the Karen quo. *Do not Karen-tinize the Eschaton!!!* |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
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Originally Posted By Kihn: How about it's statistically very improbable? That super spike is what you call a clue. Not an anomaly. Especially in the time of rapey incest forced deliveries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kihn: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Less of an anomaly, but still an anomaly. He won in 16 and 24 and you guys just can't accept that he could have lost in 20. How about it's statistically very improbable? That super spike is what you call a clue. Not an anomaly. Especially in the time of rapey incest forced deliveries. Show your math. Why, with everything going on in 2020 is it statistically improbable that there was unusually high voter turnout? |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Show your math. Why, with everything going on in 2020 is it statistically improbable that there was unusually high voter turnout? View Quote It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. |
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Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
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Originally Posted By Johnny666: WTTW Philadelphia podcast. People looting a shoe store at 3600 Germantown Ave, about a 5 minute walk to the medical school on Broad St. Other news/rumors about people amassing to loot around 15th and Market. Posted initially on (FB). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Johnny666: Originally Posted By macros73: Source? WTTW Philadelphia podcast. People looting a shoe store at 3600 Germantown Ave, about a 5 minute walk to the medical school on Broad St. Other news/rumors about people amassing to loot around 15th and Market. Posted initially on (FB). My dude, in Philadelphia, they call that Wednesday. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Shit, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what a N_T is…. View Quote Generally N_T is an abbreviation for Never_Trumper, with emphasis on the underscore as an identifier. There are other delightful terms that it can stand for as well, as they are often co-morbid with the affliction, such as: Neo_Tard, No_Testosterone, Never_Truthful, Notably_Trifling, Nascent_Transexual...ect. (The last one being particularly spicy considering the profligate homo-erotic ideations exibited by the archetype)... |
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Originally Posted By 1paintball: Generally N_T is an abbreviation for Never_Trumper, with emphasis on the underscore as an identifier. There are other delightful terms that it can stand for as well, as they are often co-morbid with the affliction, such as: Neo_Tard, No_Testosterone, Never_Truthful, Notably_Trifling, Nascent_Transexual...ect. (The last one being particularly spicy considering the profligate homo-erotic ideations exibited by the archetype)... View Quote I know what the abbreviation stands for, and so does everyone else. I didn't ask for someone to decode it. Once again, I'm waiting for someone to define "Never Trumper." |
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Originally Posted By macros73: The exit polling tells an interesting tale. Trump also saw a significant decrease in white male voter turnout from 2016 to 2020, and it didn't recover in 2024. In 2024, Latino men made up for the white men Trump lost in 2020. It'll be interesting to see how that changes in 2028 after 4 years of Trumpunist immigration policy. The uneducated make up the bulk of Trump's support, and that didn't change in 2024. He lost a big chunk of educated white men in 2020, and they didn't come back in 2024. The economy, obviously, was a huge driver. People who thought the economy was poor the last four years were a +42 for Trump. Democrats lost their lead among those who feel abortion should be legal in most cases. It turned out not to be an issue on average, though it may impact specific races. Moderates embraced Trump over Harris. She lost half of Biden's support there. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/politics/2020-2016-exit-polls-2024-dg/ Opinion: Harris failed to separate herself from the Biden economy, and worse, she made comments that chained her to it. "I wouldn't change a thing." Blunder. Picking Walz over Shapiro, assuming Shapiro didn't decline, was a blunder. Trump hid under the table rather than have a second debate against Harris. That was a smart move strategically for him. 7 out of 10 Americans felt that America needed a change, which ties back to Harris' inability to create space between her and Biden. In that sense, Democrats would've been much better off replacing Biden with someone other than Harris. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/economy-ranked-as-a-top-issue-but-concerns-over-democracy-drove-many-voters-to-polls-ap-votecast-shows View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Watch the clip in this tweet. There was not a single county in which Harris outperformed Biden from 2020.
I’d argue that simply blaming 2020 on fraud, and failing to take an objective look at what happened, and why so many people were turned away from Trump is precisely “sticking your head in the sand”. Trump has been given a second chance. A clean slate, if you will. The nation rejected him in 2020, and soundly rejected Harris and the leftist agenda 4 years later. Let’s hope he has learned from his first term and is more prepared to effectively take advantage of the opportunity now presented. The exit polling tells an interesting tale. Trump also saw a significant decrease in white male voter turnout from 2016 to 2020, and it didn't recover in 2024. In 2024, Latino men made up for the white men Trump lost in 2020. It'll be interesting to see how that changes in 2028 after 4 years of Trumpunist immigration policy. The uneducated make up the bulk of Trump's support, and that didn't change in 2024. He lost a big chunk of educated white men in 2020, and they didn't come back in 2024. The economy, obviously, was a huge driver. People who thought the economy was poor the last four years were a +42 for Trump. Democrats lost their lead among those who feel abortion should be legal in most cases. It turned out not to be an issue on average, though it may impact specific races. Moderates embraced Trump over Harris. She lost half of Biden's support there. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/politics/2020-2016-exit-polls-2024-dg/ Opinion: Harris failed to separate herself from the Biden economy, and worse, she made comments that chained her to it. "I wouldn't change a thing." Blunder. Picking Walz over Shapiro, assuming Shapiro didn't decline, was a blunder. Trump hid under the table rather than have a second debate against Harris. That was a smart move strategically for him. 7 out of 10 Americans felt that America needed a change, which ties back to Harris' inability to create space between her and Biden. In that sense, Democrats would've been much better off replacing Biden with someone other than Harris. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/economy-ranked-as-a-top-issue-but-concerns-over-democracy-drove-many-voters-to-polls-ap-votecast-shows Hid under the table from a 2nd debate which you then call strategically smart. Lol. Such an "at odds" statement. Avoiding a 3on1 gang bang where only one participant gets fact checked is a pretty wise move but you wanted it to happen because you get off on unfair shit like that. Your tears... they're delicious. And I got a free car wash from them today. |
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Originally Posted By nolan7120: Hid under the table from a 2nd debate which you then call strategically smart. Lol. Such an "at odds" statement. Avoiding a 3on1 gang bang where only one participant gets fact checked is a pretty wise move but you wanted it to happen because you get off on unfair shit like that. Your tears... they're delicious. And I got a free case wash from them today. https://media1.tenor.com/m/H6dcvStY34MAAAAd/liberal-tears-trump.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Watch the clip in this tweet. There was not a single county in which Harris outperformed Biden from 2020.
I’d argue that simply blaming 2020 on fraud, and failing to take an objective look at what happened, and why so many people were turned away from Trump is precisely “sticking your head in the sand”. Trump has been given a second chance. A clean slate, if you will. The nation rejected him in 2020, and soundly rejected Harris and the leftist agenda 4 years later. Let’s hope he has learned from his first term and is more prepared to effectively take advantage of the opportunity now presented. The exit polling tells an interesting tale. Trump also saw a significant decrease in white male voter turnout from 2016 to 2020, and it didn't recover in 2024. In 2024, Latino men made up for the white men Trump lost in 2020. It'll be interesting to see how that changes in 2028 after 4 years of Trumpunist immigration policy. The uneducated make up the bulk of Trump's support, and that didn't change in 2024. He lost a big chunk of educated white men in 2020, and they didn't come back in 2024. The economy, obviously, was a huge driver. People who thought the economy was poor the last four years were a +42 for Trump. Democrats lost their lead among those who feel abortion should be legal in most cases. It turned out not to be an issue on average, though it may impact specific races. Moderates embraced Trump over Harris. She lost half of Biden's support there. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/politics/2020-2016-exit-polls-2024-dg/ Opinion: Harris failed to separate herself from the Biden economy, and worse, she made comments that chained her to it. "I wouldn't change a thing." Blunder. Picking Walz over Shapiro, assuming Shapiro didn't decline, was a blunder. Trump hid under the table rather than have a second debate against Harris. That was a smart move strategically for him. 7 out of 10 Americans felt that America needed a change, which ties back to Harris' inability to create space between her and Biden. In that sense, Democrats would've been much better off replacing Biden with someone other than Harris. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/economy-ranked-as-a-top-issue-but-concerns-over-democracy-drove-many-voters-to-polls-ap-votecast-shows Hid under the table from a 2nd debate which you then call strategically smart. Lol. Such an "at odds" statement. Avoiding a 3on1 gang bang where only one participant gets fact checked is a pretty wise move but you wanted it to happen because you get off on unfair shit like that. Your tears... they're delicious. And I got a free case wash from them today. https://media1.tenor.com/m/H6dcvStY34MAAAAd/liberal-tears-trump.gif Here I mistook you for one of the Trumpies who could discuss things like an adult. My bad. Yes, Trump ran from a second debate after being exposed as a lying buffoon. Yes, it was smart strategy to avoid getting shredded again. If he didn’t like being fact checked, he could have lied less. The simple fact is that he lied more often, and more substantially, than Harris did. Sticking to settings where his lies would go unchallenged was good strategy by his campaign. If moderators have to make statements like “there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born” or that there are no credible reports of pets being eaten, the issue isn’t with the moderators. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I know what the abbreviation stands for, and so does everyone else. I didn't ask for someone to decode it. Once again, I'm waiting for someone to define "Never Trumper." View Quote Originally, it probably meant conservatives who were not voting for Trump. The TX Rabbit, fadedsun and duck_hunt would fit that original definition. Colloquially, its been expanded to include conservatives who spread their hatred of Trump far and wide but are voting for him anyway. Lots of words have lost their original meaning. Republican and Democrat are two examples. Hey, I don’t make the rules. |
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Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally, it probably meant conservatives who were not voting for Trump. The TX Rabbit, fadedsun and duck_hunt would fit that original definition. Colloquially, its been expanded to include conservatives who spread their hatred of Trump far and wide but are voting for him anyway. Lots of words have lost their original meaning. Republican and Democrat are two examples. Hey, I don’t make the rules. View Quote Thanks for at least trying I’d also include “people who disagree with Trump’s policies and are vocal about it.” Especially here. It’s actually pretty funny, the anger level of some posters has ramped UP since his election victory. Sore winners and all that I guess. |
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