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Posted: 3/12/2022 4:16:19 PM EDT
Federal safety regulators Thursday issued final rules allowing autonomous vehicles without manual driving controls like a steering wheel and pedals to meet traditional safety standards, paving the way for a driverless future.  

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) updated the occupant protection Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards to account for vehicles with automated driving systems (ADS) that are not equipped with conventional controls a human driver would use.  

Prior to the change, federal safety standards were written only for traditional vehicles that include steering wheels and other manual controls. NHTSA said the new rule clarifies what is required of car makers when applying safety standards to vehicles with ADS technology.

The move will allow vehicle manufacturers to produce self-driving vehicles without human controls if they meet safety regulations.  

"Through the 2020s, an important part of USDOT's safety mission will be to ensure safety standards keep pace with the development of automated driving and driver assistance systems," Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said in a statement.  

https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/smart-cities/597871-regulators-no-longer-requiring-autonomous-cars-to


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Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:18:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Driving is all fun and games until the LCARS helm control interface (touch screen) freezes up or shuts off.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:19:02 PM EDT
[#3]
I can’t be friends with a man who owns a vehicle without a gas pedal.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:21:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Any word if this update finally eliminated the "dedicated high beams" nonsense?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:23:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Just let us pair a xbox controller to it for emergency manual driving, lol.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:25:40 PM EDT
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So a friendship with @beetlestapler is a no go?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:29:12 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm really glad they solved all the other problems we have first.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 4:30:00 PM EDT
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Mine only has a computer pedal.  The computer then chooses how much air to give it.  Then it decides how much fuel to give it.

I do kinda miss the cables.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:53:52 PM EDT
[#9]
It'll be interesting to see how that affects driving under the influence.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#10]
yikes.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:55:08 PM EDT
[#11]
A metaphor for how they want you to have zero control of anything.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:55:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Tesla Jonny Cab
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:57:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 6:59:17 PM EDT
[#14]
You won't want to live in the places they want you to live where this sort of abomination would be suitable.

And besides, I would never have a social credit score high enough to be allowed to actually own one.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:11:43 PM EDT
[#15]
So when done get rid of required mechanical connection between steering wheel and the tie rod ends?

Would be super slick to have a fully hydraulic setup
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:21:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Gotta be better than the current crop of texting drivers.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:33:13 PM EDT
[#17]
This shall go well in road salt states.

Fucking brainlets run this country.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:38:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Can I ride to work while watching porn and masterbating?

Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:44:01 PM EDT
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Do one better that isn't anecdotal.

Parking aid sensors become a thing.
Within 2-3+ years, depending on how well someone maintained/washed their shit after snow/road salt...
The sensors themselves, and the pigtails/pins in the connectors corroded.
How the system works?

To break out the crayons and coloring books for the naive and inept to understand...
The sensor-an eye ball.
The wiring to the sensor and back to the PAM and to the beeper-the optic nerve leading to the brain. And the brain to the vocal cords and lips.

When retards and women get complacent to the back up beep cadence increasing as they got closer to an object?
They became dependent upon this without looking behind them let alone using mirrors... fuck that. We has lazy enabling back up beeps to let us know how close we are.

Alter the circuits resistance-you make the sensor near/far sighted.
Suddenly...
Backs into shit and only upon impact does the beeps begin.


Fuck self driving vehicles.
Fuck traction and stability control.

You think vehicles are pants on head retarded now?
Wait til these shit box systems succumb to the elements/corrosion.

And every manufacturer will have to source gold/Platinum wire for these low impedance, anti corrosive properties.

Fuck self driving anything get good or get off the fucking road you non driving fucks.
Why they haven't mandated a device to immobilize a vehicle or the vehicle operators phone while the vehicle is running/moving...
Better yet, raise the standards to obtain and keep a license...

But that's too much like common sense and logic. Neither of which are common commodities anymore.
Yay clown world.
Fucking retards running things, to enable more retards to be retards.

I can't wait to watch the epic failure this becomes.
It'll be a good day to be an ambulance chaser.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Building Zoox from the ground up


Exclusive look at Cruise’s first fully driverless car

Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:47:06 PM EDT
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You don’t already???
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 7:51:02 PM EDT
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Anyone can drive and jerk it...
Be a hero.

Solicit a prostitute in front of a cop, autonomous get away tune engaged, and bang her in front of the cops to distract them. Make eye contact tact while thrusting balls deep.
Point and shout-You're next and wink. Right up until a harness wiggles from a bump in the road, with a frayed wire, shorts to ground goes blind and wraps around a telephone pole mid coitus.
Survive hire pengwin to sue and get a recall like a chicom hatchet.
Profit.
Ban lemming enabling technology and make it a felony an act of treason for .gov to manipulate the automotive industry per their feelz.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:38:15 PM EDT
[#23]
Does anyone really think autonomous cars is the way to go?

I wonder if Mayor Pete and his cock holder have stock such companies given he wants to end traffic highway deaths.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:48:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:51:27 PM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:51:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
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Do one better that isn't anecdotal.

Parking aid sensors become a thing.
Within 2-3+ years, depending on how well someone maintained/washed their shit after snow/road salt...
The sensors themselves, and the pigtails/pins in the connectors corroded.
How the system works?

To break out the crayons and coloring books for the naive and inept to understand...
The sensor-an eye ball.
The wiring to the sensor and back to the PAM and to the beeper-the optic nerve leading to the brain. And the brain to the vocal cords and lips.

When retards and women get complacent to the back up beep cadence increasing as they got closer to an object?
They became dependent upon this without looking behind them let alone using mirrors... fuck that. We has lazy enabling back up beeps to let us know how close we are.

Alter the circuits resistance-you make the sensor near/far sighted.
Suddenly...
Backs into shit and only upon impact does the beeps begin.


Fuck self driving vehicles.
Fuck traction and stability control.

You think vehicles are pants on head retarded now?
Wait til these shit box systems succumb to the elements/corrosion.

And every manufacturer will have to source gold/Platinum wire for these low impedance, anti corrosive properties.

Fuck self driving anything get good or get off the fucking road you non driving fucks.
Why they haven't mandated a device to immobilize a vehicle or the vehicle operators phone while the vehicle is running/moving...
Better yet, raise the standards to obtain and keep a license...

But that's too much like common sense and logic. Neither of which are common commodities anymore.
Yay clown world.
Fucking retards running things, to enable more retards to be retards.

I can't wait to watch the epic failure this becomes.
It'll be a good day to be an ambulance chaser.
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Agreed. I work with industrial sensors and controls on a daily basis, the failure rate is ridiculous when they're exposed to a hostile environment. It will be even worse for consumer-grade junk.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:54:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Not a good idea since driverless cars still have an accident rate 5 times that of person driven cars.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:55:57 PM EDT
[#28]
So they can kill you like they did to Andrew Brietbart?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:57:10 PM EDT
[#29]
So I can still rip out the Johnny cab guy and drive the thing right?

Damnit didn't even read the thread, GD is on it.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 8:59:27 PM EDT
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I could say the same thing about clutch pedals, but then everyone just points and laughs at the luddite.
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:03:15 PM EDT
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That's the first step.

It used to be called an accelerator.

Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:03:52 PM EDT
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Can't you do that now?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:14:17 PM EDT
[#33]
So who's responsible when the car fucks up?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:19:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Smart car, this isn't the way to Dave and Busters...

Why are we pulling up to the FEMA camp gate?
Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:26:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Hyundai's vision is even more dystopian

Hyundai x CES 2022 | Move Things Beyond Imagination

Link Posted: 3/12/2022 9:27:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:49:22 AM EDT
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Hyundai's vision is even more dystopian

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Those pods look familiar

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:51:49 AM EDT
[#38]
Are these 'safety regulations' even moar airbags to compliment all the other airbags?...
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 11:02:37 AM EDT
[#39]
Demolition Man (1993) - Google driverless car, iPad and Skype in the year 2032
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 11:37:01 AM EDT
[#40]
So how am I supposed to road rage? I'd basically be a mobile prisoner.  


I believe there should either be NO driverless cars, or ALL driverless cars. Trying to combine the 2 in modern society will end badly for some people.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 11:40:14 AM EDT
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