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Posted: 7/23/2019 8:07:47 AM EST
So economy, much win


Jewelry and accessories retailer Charming Charlie filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Thursday with plans to close all of its 261 stores in 38 states.

The filing marks the company's second Chapter 11 case, qualifying as what restructuring industry professionals call a "Chapter 22" bankruptcy.

Charming Charlie closed about 100 stores during its previous bankruptcy, which ended in April 2018. The retailer used that process to cut debts and slash other costs, but "these efforts simply were not sufficient to stabilize" the business and deliver profits, the company said Thursday in a court filing.

The company said it faced "unsustainable operating expenses, including onerous leases" at a time when many brick-and-mortar stores are battling with online retailers.
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Tanking
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Never heard of 'em.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:08:31 AM EST
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Never heard of them, must be regional.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:10:00 AM EST
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They sell cheap baubles to the pre-teen and tween girl crowd.  I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not.
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38 states isn't regional.  If you don't have a pre-teen or tween daughter, though, there's no reason you would know of its existence.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:11:54 AM EST
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Rogueboss economics thread
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:12:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:16:54 AM EST
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So economy, much win


Jewelry and accessories retailer Charming Charlie filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Thursday with plans to close all of its 261 stores in 38 states.

The filing marks the company's second Chapter 11 case, qualifying as what restructuring industry professionals call a "Chapter 22" bankruptcy.

Charming Charlie closed about 100 stores during its previous bankruptcy, which ended in April 2018. The retailer used that process to cut debts and slash other costs, but "these efforts simply were not sufficient to stabilize" the business and deliver profits, the company said Thursday in a court filing.

The company said it faced "unsustainable operating expenses, including onerous leases" at a time when many brick-and-mortar stores are battling with online retailers.
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Cant blame all failures on the economy or Trump.  Sometimes your business model is just not sustainable or because past decisions presently screw you.

Sounds more like Darwin.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:17:34 AM EST
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That last chart makes my brain bleed.
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Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:18:29 AM EST
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Charming Charlie's sells cheap junk costume jewelry from China.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:46:15 AM EST
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Sorry Charlie.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:49:11 AM EST
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^ ^ ^ T H I S ^ ^ ^

Cheap shit . . . an Asian flea market.

Good riddance.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:50:01 AM EST
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So economy, much win


Jewelry and accessories retailer Charming Charlie filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Thursday with plans to close all of its 261 stores in 38 states.

The filing marks the company's second Chapter 11 case, qualifying as what restructuring industry professionals call a "Chapter 22" bankruptcy.

Charming Charlie closed about 100 stores during its previous bankruptcy, which ended in April 2018. The retailer used that process to cut debts and slash other costs, but "these efforts simply were not sufficient to stabilize" the business and deliver profits, the company said Thursday in a court filing.

The company said it faced "unsustainable operating expenses, including onerous leases" at a time when many brick-and-mortar stores are battling with online retailers.
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Seriously? It's like lamenting the closing of buggy-whip companies at the turn of the 20th century. Brick and mortar retail is dying. Period. Roaring economy or not, retail stores are closing left and right.  Has nothing to do with the current (or past) President.

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And puts stores in high rent locations.
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Sorry Charlie.
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Link Posted: 7/23/2019 8:58:29 AM EST
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Mall type stores are a dying breed.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:01:08 AM EST
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Daughter's will dislike it. Over never been in there but the wife and kids go sometimes
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:02:44 AM EST
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Lol. Oh the noes, muh Chinese import shit store is going under because the tariffs work!!!
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:04:44 AM EST
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In this thread, OP reminds us all that he has no understanding of how business works.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:09:17 AM EST
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I've got a great business plan. I'll start a high overhead company that targets a narrow market segment that has little of its own money or purchasing autonomy.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:12:17 AM EST
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Either that or they're just in malls.  I would never see them if they're hiding in those.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:15:14 AM EST
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Never heard of 'em. I thought it might be one of those deep discount junk stores where they sell last years model vacuum cleaners , freight salvaged bullshit , and big overruns of crap that people quit buying at Walmart all of a sudden.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:30:23 AM EST
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So?

Businesses fail even in a good economy.

Or are you pushing for enactment of the anti dog eat dog act?
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:34:07 AM EST
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Never heard of 'em.
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Seriously? It's like lamenting the closing of buggy-whip companies at the turn of the 20th century. Brick and mortar retail is dying. Period. Roaring economy or not, retail stores are closing left and right.  Has nothing to do with the current (or past) President.

https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2017/01/05/Retail%20Sales%20Online%20vs%20Department%20Stores.jpg
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Thank you for posting that graph.

While I knew e-commerce had overtaken brick and mortar, I didn't know that it actually happened so long ago.

That's fascinating to me
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 9:38:58 AM EST
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OP still laments the demise of Dress Barn.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:09:55 AM EST
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The company said it faced "unsustainable operating expenses, including onerous leases"
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The only one I'm aware of locally opened their store in The Rim - a pricey outdoor strip mall.

In that kind of location, when all you're selling is $2 baubles, you gotta sell a hell of a lot of them to turn a profit.

Meanwhile, located in cheaper real estate, Dollar Tree continues to thrive - selling stuff for a buck.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:15:24 AM EST
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The wife and daughter will be disappointed.
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Stop trollin!
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Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:18:48 AM EST
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So people are using their money in smarter ways and not buying stupid shit.  This is good news.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:21:02 AM EST
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Seriously? It's like lamenting the closing of buggy-whip companies at the turn of the 20th century. Brick and mortar retail is dying. Period. Roaring economy or not, retail stores are closing left and right.  Has nothing to do with the current (or past) President.

https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2017/01/05/Retail%20Sales%20Online%20vs%20Department%20Stores.jpg
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I go the the mall about once a year, probably because of nostalgia reasons.

Good chart but I stopped buying a lot of things locally and started buying online around 1999 when Ebay came on the scene.

I remember shopping for a digital camera in 2003.  Did a bunch of research online and found what I wanted including a price of $350 with $12 shipping.  Went down to Best Buy and their price was $450.  Needless to say I bought online.

I do buy some items at Costco, Walmart, Lowes, etc. but even they are offering online shopping where I can go pick it up or have it delivered without the hassles of lines and people in general.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:35:17 AM EST
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Trolling, trolling, trolling, got to keep on trolling, troll on!
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 10:39:35 AM EST
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Teenage girls?

Not likely.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 11:53:41 AM EST
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Thor carries a gun? And what the hell happened to his hair?
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This never seemed like a solid long term plan.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 11:57:47 AM EST
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Good news, Real Estate sales are up.....

Link Posted: 7/23/2019 11:58:31 AM EST
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Didn’t you do this about the fat lady clothes stores too?
Has zilch to do with trump’s economy and more to do with amazon as well as their pricing and marketing
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 11:59:37 AM EST
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Nope. Never heard of them.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:02:07 PM EST
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38 states isn't regional.  If you don't have a pre-teen or tween daughter, though, there's no reason you would know of its existence.
Not many of them in Florida. The few that are here are mostly in the Miami Metropolitan Area, Tampa Metroplex, and Orlando area. The tourist spots. Outside of that. There aren't any.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:04:10 PM EST
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This.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:04:32 PM EST
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Good news, Real Estate sales are up.....

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Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:07:58 PM EST
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Speciality retail stores (in malls no less,) are dead men walking. I’m not really familiar with these stores but Zales they’re not. Malls, where these type of stores live, have been shutting down all over for the last 20 years. Amazon absolutely would control this market outside a place where little girls can get their ears pierced.

Retail B&M stores, with few exceptions, are doomed.
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Now that’s an open house I want to check out...Might put a deposit on it.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:20:10 PM EST
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Now that’s an open house I want to check out...Might put a deposit on it.
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Now that’s an open house I want to check out...Might put a deposit on it.
Nice, you're quite the cunning linguist.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:30:44 PM EST
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Never heard of it, or even seen one.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 12:32:49 PM EST
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I mentioned this to the wife, here's her take as a former Charming Charlie shopper: They sold a bunch of stuff that she now buys from single-person Facebook boutiques, for less money, and with the social aspect of Facebook Live auctions and sales.

Most of those "boutiques" are money-losing hobbies for stay-at-home moms disguised as businesses - so there's no way a big company can make money against thousands of sole proprietors who are also losing money.
Link Posted: 7/23/2019 1:07:00 PM EST
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They sell cheap baubles to the pre-teen and tween girl crowd.  I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not.
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Explains why I've never heard of them.

Rogueboss's favorite store?
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