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Scribed just to see where this one goes. I currently support the protestors unless there is something we don't know.
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: I think you mean Bush. That DoD Directive was effective 15 JAN 1993. 1/4 point for you View Quote I worked for JTF-N, back then it was JTF-6. The people that were covered under the initial DOD approval were not the same ones driving the armored vehicles, that request came later, under the new POTUS... Clinton, who was sworn in on 20 JAN 93. The initial approval was for "special" counter drug forces and training, under the authorizations that JTF-6 had for DSCA, IF a drug nexus could be established. Miraculously, the ATF/FBI found one. BOT I guess national news isn't going to cover what happened in MN last night since the space launch is going on today. |
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My question is "what makes it Ok to do that"?
Is it pure ignorance that he might be killing someone? You have to believe the answer is no, he was being told as much. I have to believe that the behavior of his leadership made that acceptable and Ok. If it wasn't acceptable, the other cops standing around would have stopped him. He believed it was ok because he was either told it was ok or he'd seen it happen before without repercussion. People do what is in their own best interests. He didn't see this as having a negative consequence for him or he wouldn't have done it. |
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Originally Posted By GreyHat: It's not a perfect system but it's the one we've got. You can't discount all rioters because a few made mistakes under pressure. These are tough decisions made in the heat of the moment, and you should be thankful there are rioters willing to stand on the wall against violent officials so untrained civilians can sleep at night. etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreyHat: Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: So you are saying the reports of shootings and explosions are justified because of the actions of two shitty cops? How many people should die? It's not a perfect system but it's the one we've got. You can't discount all rioters because a few made mistakes under pressure. These are tough decisions made in the heat of the moment, and you should be thankful there are rioters willing to stand on the wall against violent officials so untrained civilians can sleep at night. etc. This forum needs a 'like' button. I |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 View Quote That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say. |
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Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.
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Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension Damn. Unbelievable. Scratch that. It's believable. |
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Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.
The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants. |
Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: I worked for JTF-N, back then it was JTF-6. The people that were covered under the initial DOD approval were not the same ones driving the armored vehicles, that request came later, under the new POTUS... Clinton, who was sworn in on 20 JAN 93. The initial approval was for "special" counter drug forces and training, under the authorizations that JTF-6 had for DSCA, IF a drug nexus could be established. Miraculously, the ATF/FBI found one. BOT I guess national news isn't going to cover what happened in MN last night since the space launch is going on today. View Quote Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice day. |
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Eschew circumlocution.
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Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say. Everything I just said was a lie. I'm not saying I wanted those those things to happen, but the double standard is glaringly apparent. This guy was the wrong color, so it'll be a circus. Anyway the officer in this case needs to do time for manslaughter at a minimum. |
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Who wants to be my friend?
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I'm surprised there isn't more damage from last night.
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Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago View Quote What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. Attached File |
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Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral busybodies.
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762: What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/2CDBAD8F-2BA2-4726-8A21-DBC29F19B383_jpe-1435034.JPG View Quote LOL, technology! Turn it around! |
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Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral busybodies.
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A crowd has formed next to the liquor store. That guy is so screwed!
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When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762: What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/52A869E9-D715-4AD1-8367-7A0676EAB806_jpe-1435037.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PantherArms762: Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/52A869E9-D715-4AD1-8367-7A0676EAB806_jpe-1435037.JPG what you Drinking? |
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: I'm surprised there isn't more damage from last night. View Quote Last night was more of a flash mob and it was raining most of the time. If anything happens tonight it will probably be more hardcore, "professional", protestors that have had a day of planning. Based on the current video: Street is still open to vehicular traffic. God forbid someone hits a protestor. The mob will turn on the driver and there will more than likely be blood. Fire too. I didn't see any rear security posted at the police station. Could be a big mistake if the protestors are even somewhat organized. Boarding up the front doors also limits visibility. If they have bullet/shatter resistant glass in them it probably isn't a smart move since all the other windows aren't boarded. Dumpsters in the alleyway make for good cover but can also be used to start big fires, which is what this whole situation has been from the beginning... a huge dumpster fire. Looks like the crowd is already bigger than last night. |
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762: What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/52A869E9-D715-4AD1-8367-7A0676EAB806_jpe-1435037.JPG View Quote Thank you for at least shaving your toes first. |
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Originally Posted By 556therapy: A crowd has formed next to the liquor store. That guy is so screwed! View Quote I’d have been preparing coolers full of ice, beer, wine, and other warm weather booze, then set it up outside my store with a ‘TAKE ONE OR A FEW BUT LEAVE SOME FOR YOUR FELLOW LOOTERS/PROTESTERS’ sign next to it. That should do it, or at least give them something to think about. “Maybe if we leave this guy alone, he’ll set out more tomorrow night, but if we burn him out now, we have a long walk ahead of us to get more..” |
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Not trying to second guess trained decisions here, and perhaps some cops can chime in...but from the current live video it looks like the police don't have a very good initial setup for tonight's festivities. They are backed into a tunnel, and aside from some plywood, most of the station exterior and the one neighboring business don't look secured.
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Originally Posted By Turboguy: It isn't murder 1. Murder 1 implies he planned it in advance. Like he was driving around saying, "Imma kneel on that motherfucker's neck" long in advance. Murder 3 maybe. Manslaughter definitely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Turboguy: Originally Posted By MyAliyah: Murder 1, the other cop is an accessory to the murder. It isn't murder 1. Murder 1 implies he planned it in advance. Like he was driving around saying, "Imma kneel on that motherfucker's neck" long in advance. Murder 3 maybe. Manslaughter definitely. Doesn't sound as cool. Murder 1 man. |
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Originally Posted By Him: These two are enough. https://www.informationliberation.com/files/bead.jpghttps://c8.alamy.com/comp/KMGE67/a-volunteer-perpetrator-surrenders-to-a-police-swat-special-weapons-KMGE67.jpg View Quote Training? Or is that Rhoades scholar going in without a mag? |
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Originally Posted By FloridaMan:
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Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago View Quote |
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Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago View Quote Oh no, please, stop |
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Originally Posted By CyberSEAL: Not trying to second guess trained decisions here, and perhaps some cops can chime in...but from the current live video it looks like the police don't have a very good initial setup for tonight's festivities. They are backed into a tunnel, and aside from some plywood, most of the station exterior and the one neighboring business don't look secured. View Quote They took them by surprise. |
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Originally Posted By daveo: Chopper is live crowds gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago View Quote You know that’s really what the news should be, silent recording of events, let people form their own conclusions rather than be spoon fed propaganda. |
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Heres some links, not really much direct except the scanner feeds and news feeds. Scanner feed https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/27929 Unicorn Riot Live URL https://unicornriot.ninja/live-channel/ YouTube feeds Gloomtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8dVgSb3C-nqD6h2PpENodA lucky43113 https://www.youtube.com/user/lucky43113 unicorn riot https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeHbMlHDec5NmJfiQXMYGXQ Minnesota guardian https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCTovkyohJRHuXVwFHeV9kw Smoke and scan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjy1_Jszy5U Local news live feeds https://www.fox9.com/live https://kstp.com/livevideo/ https://www.kare11.com/video/news/live_breaking/kare-11-live-breaking-video/89-1587028 https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/live/ Facebook pages with known live feeds https://www.facebook.com/demetrius.pendleton.5 https://www.facebook.com/MinnesotaProtests https://www.facebook.com/breakingnewsnationwide |
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/10E1A1D5-EDDD-482D-9933-60CF922D6B0C_jpe-1434211.JPG View Quote That crowd is much more diverse (actual dictionary definition) that I would have thought. I don't know the initiating incident. |
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Originally Posted By Bloencustoms: Not how I remember it. Obama raised the left's expectations and they got their hopes up that "change" was going to be permanent. Then Trump won and started dismantling the shit Obama forced on us and the left has been losing their shit over it. View Quote Ok, I’ll play. Show me where trump has restricted local/state agencies access to dermo’d DOD gear and programs and funding that was expanded drastically under Obama? Can’t find examples, it’s because he too wants that to continue and has expanded access to funds/equipment/resources that law enforcement doesn’t need. It’s almost like politicians at the federal level want to increase control and funding of state and local agencies to work towards a national federal homogeny. |
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Notice most of these protesters are white?
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/78187E27-B108-4E30-B07F-B4B993F3962C_jpe-1434219.JPG View Quote Is that Childish Gambino? |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:
Probably true, but fuck them sons of a bitches anyways. Coonman can kiss my ass. |
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Originally Posted By daveo: Live feed outside the cops house! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUoPOrup9Dc View Quote edit protestors chased off pizza delivery yesterday reporters from Uk and La in the crowd |
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I rule the midnight air, The Destroyer...
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: Because this is about a dead man, murdered on video, in unquestionably wrong circumstances after LE has shown they'll enforce anything the chief tells them to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Notice most of these protesters are white? Because this is about a dead man, murdered on video, in unquestionably wrong circumstances after LE has shown they'll enforce anything the chief tells them to. Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy. |
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Originally Posted By JCIN: When you excuse fucked up cops by saying "But the military..." it does not help your case. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JCIN: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Support or not, they were involved in Waco. So much for holding up their oaths. When you excuse fucked up cops by saying "But the military..." it does not help your case. Is that what I said? |
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: Originally Posted By silver_back110: Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy. General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders" So no. Got it |
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I rule the midnight air, The Destroyer...
AL, USA
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop: Originally Posted By silver_back110: Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy. General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders" So the Chief didn’t order his officers to kill suspects without cause? |
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Stupid question time.....what is the goal of continued protesting at this point? The 4 cops involved have been fired / arrested....other than a good excuse to tear shit up what else do they want?
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No one owns the air!
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Originally Posted By LandKruiser: Gotta virtue signal like a mofo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LandKruiser: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Notice most of these protesters are white? Gotta virtue signal like a mofo. I don't think that's what this is. lol |
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They just said big protest at 5:00 by the precinct.
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Originally Posted By fox2008: Stupid question time.....what is the goal of continued protesting at this point? The 4 cops involved have been fired / arrested....other than a good excuse to tear shit up what else do they want? View Quote Not aware of any arrests yet. What do they want? Dead cops I’m pretty sure |
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