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Originally Posted By 36trap: Two certainties in life. One - regardless of the city if you're on Martin Luther King Blvd you're in the hood. Two - State Police are always the most jack booted looking thugs to show up in riot gear. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/29/14/28972262-8369619-image-a-41_1590758738981.jpg View Quote Well, they are responding to a riot tho... |
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: You’re right I don’t get it. I don’t get why the police are allowing the rioters to burn and pillage with minimal resistance but yet defend their own house (precinct) up until the flames They may be getting “orders” from others to stand down but then that just supports what many here are saying, they’re willing to follow orders and let the a barrage Joe citizen have his store burned and life ruined and show up after to write the police report. If you’d like to have an adult conversation I’m all ears View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Leprechaun-33-: Originally Posted By New2AR15s: So in otherwords we continue to see that stand down orders allowing the burning and pillaging of the city mean pensions>duty? So far during the riots they have mostly protected and served their own building and arrested the guy defending his own while they watched it go down For the record I do get that this is a shit sandwich to deal with unless we really condone open season on looters/rioters You just don’t get it and for that I’m sorry! Maybe one day you’ll find your answer. You’re right I don’t get it. I don’t get why the police are allowing the rioters to burn and pillage with minimal resistance but yet defend their own house (precinct) up until the flames They may be getting “orders” from others to stand down but then that just supports what many here are saying, they’re willing to follow orders and let the a barrage Joe citizen have his store burned and life ruined and show up after to write the police report. If you’d like to have an adult conversation I’m all ears Unless and until the cops are permitted to shoot rioters on sight, their only course of action is precisely what you described. They shelter in place at the precinct awaiting orders, defending their position until escalation to lethal force seems imminent, then are forced to flee before they have to shoot their way out. What other option is there? Shoot dozens of rioters while on duty without orders to use lethal force? Who's gonna defend them in that scenario, you? Not hardly. You can't lament the destruction and also not allow the cops to get ugly on these incredibly ugly people. That's just a naive contradiction. This is why, historically, rioters get shot on sight, before they can whip up an unstoppable feeding frenzy. |
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Originally Posted By GMZ: No shit sherlock I’ve ran armories and done ammo accounting for 20 years. Someone gets issued security ammo LC12 and tries to turn in training ammo LC18 or WCC then we have a problem and you’re going to have to justify the expenditure, DD200 the whole 9. Ask me how I know. View Quote Maybe go read your response and see how you're inferring its the lot number. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: I also noticed that. I would point out that looting and burning your own neighborhood is something done by dysfunctional culture. The implication is that these white kids now are adopting the behavior we typically see in urban black culture. What we wanted was the urban blacks to adopt the white culture behavior, but we see the opposite here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: These kids I see in some of these photos look 15-21, and I would say that is the majority of the crowds. I am surprised of the integration of the group, and it seems at times equal. I think this is a huge step in race relations, and demonstrates we are moving forward, not backwards. I also noticed that. I would point out that looting and burning your own neighborhood is something done by dysfunctional culture. The implication is that these white kids now are adopting the behavior we typically see in urban black culture. What we wanted was the urban blacks to adopt the white culture behavior, but we see the opposite here. It's a downtown / commercial area. |
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Originally Posted By barnbwt: Hmm...couple ways to interpret this. 1) Cop was a racist & resented the guy he worked beside 2) Cop knew the guy was a rough n ready customer who'd put up a good fight if he didn't hold him down 3) Cop knew the guy was trouble, along with the attendees at the ghetto club he babysat in his off time. 4) Cop worked different days, literally never saw this guy before, and the story is totally irrelevant I'm guessing somewhere between 2 & 4. Why are violent felons allowed to work security? It just occurred to me that makes no sense (well, except for the part where it makes absolute sense; but I mean legally) View Quote Story indicates they worked at the same time, one outside and the other inside. |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout: We are proper fucked View Quote You guys act like finding a couple hundred young white kids in Minneapolis to riot and loot is this huge symbolic gesture on behalf of domestic race relations everywhere. The funny part is, a Soros activists organization mobilizing quickly to burn down a city in coordination with the local elected progressive officials is probably more indicative of reality than the statement above. |
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Originally Posted By GMZ: Wat Headstamp has manufacturer and year on it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GMZ: Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Umm... ammo doesn't have lot numbers stamped on it. The crate and can, sure, but not the cartridge itself. Wat Headstamp has manufacturer and year on it He's technically right. Lot numbers are long. Edit: read on and saw you know exactly what I was talking about. |
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Minneapolis riots press conference with Gov. Walz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0qozm0T8Jc View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DonS: I also noticed that. I would point out that looting and burning your own neighborhood is something done by dysfunctional culture. The implication is that these white kids now are adopting the behavior we typically see in urban black culture. What we wanted was the urban blacks to adopt the white culture behavior, but we see the opposite here. View Quote Nature always defaults back to the lowest common denominator. Why work hard and try to make something of yourself when you can be a fucking hood rat, and get paid by daddy government. |
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Originally Posted By Puck: The GD fetish with the Daily Mail is pretty hilarious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Puck: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Originally Posted By Bale2011: Derek Chauvin's wife was charged with writing a bad check. She's a butterface. What a tabloid. Who cares about what an EX wife did 15 years ago. The GD fetish with the Daily Mail is pretty hilarious. More like Drudge's fetish |
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Originally Posted By ryann: WHAT IF-as has been hinted, there isn’t enough to charge the cops criminally? Personally I think there is, but what if not? What if an objective autopsy, performed by credible pathologists, in front of select witnesses, shows the guy had a heart attack? Again I’m not predicting that, but if we’re honest with ourselves, are we hoping that evidence shows the cop killed him? Because if he didn’t, no matter what evidence there is supporting a “natural” death, it will not be accepted and Minneapolis will go down in the books as a prelude to a catastrophe that this nation will not recover from. View Quote All due respect, but honestly. You guys want to paint the possibility of a cop going down for something he technically perhaps maybe did not do, but clearly happened during something outrageous that he was doing, as being possibly an injustice of biblical proportions. Tell it to the rioters. I bet a lot of them have been accused and punished for shit that they feel technically, they aren't guilty of even tho they were there and doing bad shit. So sadly disconnected from the reality of these people. |
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Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: There is no proof they had one however, other than working in the same area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Originally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Why would it matter if he saw him sparingly throughout his side job? You really don't get "why would it matter" if they had a preexisting relationship? There is no proof they had one however, other than working in the same area. lol this wasn't a "hey you work in the downtown area too? What a coincidence!" Same small place of work for years if not decade plus is odd |
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Originally Posted By QP031: Originally Posted By chadjetlag: Possible, even a heart attack could still be criminally tied to the officers actions. You can’t do everything in your power to kill a man and then say “not our fault, he had a heart attack after we crushed him, choked him, and cut off his blood supply” IMO they should answer in front of a jury. Makes the charge attempted murder, reckless endangerment, aggravated battery, etc. Instead of murder. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: I also noticed that. I would point out that looting and burning your own neighborhood is something done by dysfunctional culture. The implication is that these white kids now are adopting the behavior we typically see in urban black culture. What we wanted was the urban blacks to adopt the white culture behavior, but we see the opposite here. View Quote I think it is based in facts, and clearly points the more appreciated culture of our time is that of urban blacks. |
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Originally Posted By IceAuger: Zero leadership from No Balz Walz. For a guy who likes to brag about his years in the NG, he doesn't have a damn clue what to do.
View Quote It was downright comical to see the NG guy get up there and immediately start talking about the lack direction from the governor with the governor standing right next to him. |
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Originally Posted By glockluv: lol this wasn't a "hey you work in the downtown area too? What a coincidence!" Same small place of work for years if not decade plus is odd View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Originally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Why would it matter if he saw him sparingly throughout his side job? You really don't get "why would it matter" if they had a preexisting relationship? There is no proof they had one however, other than working in the same area. lol this wasn't a "hey you work in the downtown area too? What a coincidence!" Same small place of work for years if not decade plus is odd Once again, there is no proof. Even the article throws water on the claim they knew each other. Maybe they did, and they didn't recognize each other for various reasons. |
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Originally Posted By USNGM2: Keyser Söze did exist in the movie though. He just convinced those that could hold him accountable that he didn't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By USNGM2: Originally Posted By CorruptBureaucrat: That's a great way to put it. Keyser Söze did exist in the movie though. He just convinced those that could hold him accountable that he didn't. |
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Originally Posted By dannylgriffin: Yes they will. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By barnbwt: Unless and until the cops are permitted to shoot rioters on sight, their only course of action is precisely what you described. They shelter in place at the precinct awaiting orders, defending their position until escalation to lethal force seems imminent, then are forced to flee before they have to shoot their way out. What other option is there? Shoot dozens of rioters while on duty without orders to use lethal force? Who's gonna defend them in that scenario, you? Not hardly. You can't lament the destruction and also not allow the cops to get ugly on these incredibly ugly people. That's just a naive contradiction. This is why, historically, rioters get shot on sight, before they can whip up an unstoppable feeding frenzy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By barnbwt: Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Leprechaun-33-: Originally Posted By New2AR15s: So in otherwords we continue to see that stand down orders allowing the burning and pillaging of the city mean pensions>duty? So far during the riots they have mostly protected and served their own building and arrested the guy defending his own while they watched it go down For the record I do get that this is a shit sandwich to deal with unless we really condone open season on looters/rioters You just don't get it and for that I'm sorry! Maybe one day you'll find your answer. You're right I don't get it. I don't get why the police are allowing the rioters to burn and pillage with minimal resistance but yet defend their own house (precinct) up until the flames They may be getting "orders" from others to stand down but then that just supports what many here are saying, they're willing to follow orders and let the a barrage Joe citizen have his store burned and life ruined and show up after to write the police report. If you'd like to have an adult conversation I'm all ears Unless and until the cops are permitted to shoot rioters on sight, their only course of action is precisely what you described. They shelter in place at the precinct awaiting orders, defending their position until escalation to lethal force seems imminent, then are forced to flee before they have to shoot their way out. What other option is there? Shoot dozens of rioters while on duty without orders to use lethal force? Who's gonna defend them in that scenario, you? Not hardly. You can't lament the destruction and also not allow the cops to get ugly on these incredibly ugly people. That's just a naive contradiction. This is why, historically, rioters get shot on sight, before they can whip up an unstoppable feeding frenzy. I get you're trying to troll the thread, but for fucks sake people... |
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: I've done off duty details at bars that had security and 9 out of 10 times. I didn't deal with the security. I stayed in the back office watching the cameras unless the management wanted legal action (ie an arrest for disorderly conduct) while the regular security guards dealt with the riffraff and threw them out of the bar. View Quote They explicitly said that the cop worked outside and the black guy inside, and were on duty at the same time at least sometimes. |
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Lets see, arrest thugs who are looting and rioting in mass...or arrest law abiding gun owners who respect the law. How many arrested during last nights riots(not including the reporters)? https://external-preview.redd.it/NwDDR2R51Fptn7KhR-1Ldle1gzX5RxeRe-bfNgRgERE.jpg?auto=webp&s=8f90f7b8154f51b69cf77ed076daba206432f775 View Quote Yeah those Texas cops would have ended this quickly |
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Originally Posted By dedreckon: I'll at least try. Me and my son will be on the rooftop and protect my wife and daughter (who will be armed). If I have to I will die for them all, send my son away before it ends. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dedreckon: Originally Posted By ZMV: Thats a great policy. Do you have eight trained and mentally prepared boog bois sitting at your house ready to defend it? Because thats the minumum number of people it would take to defend the typical residence against a determined assault force of the size we're seeing at these riots. I'll at least try. Me and my son will be on the rooftop and protect my wife and daughter (who will be armed). If I have to I will die for them all, send my son away before it ends. Wife drives like the chick in Denver yesterday both boys shooting if necessary. That's why we're teaching all of our kids and wives to shoot. |
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Well if we are focused here what is really going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By ryann: This isn’t integration. It’s an Axis pact. Well if we are focused here what is really going on? Communists aligned with BLM aligned with various other domestic terrorist groups focused on anarchy You don’t really think you’re seeing justified, righteous indignation do you? These assholes don’t give 1 fuck about George Floyd. Just like they didn’t give 1 fuck about Noors victim. |
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Why was it feathery? A hint that in the future they will aviary? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By L_JE: So, I called my lizard people contact, and said, "Hey Why was it feathery? A hint that in the future they will aviary? |
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde: [b]Its the truth. "The government is oppressive! We need armed revolt! The tree of liberty needs refreshed to free ourselves!" Also the same people: "Yeah! Shoot those rioters dead! In Iraq we did far worse to them! Mow em down with 240s! They should shoot them in the nuts with 22s like Israel!" Its disgusting and shows just how two faced half of the right is. They all think anything that kicks off is going to be one sided and theyll be the only ones View Quote |
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Originally Posted By chadjetlag: A politicians worst nightmare would be black and white united together to fight government overreach and lack of accountability. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: These kids I see in some of these photos look 15-21, and I would say that is the majority of the crowds. I am surprised of the integration of the group, and it seems at times equal. I think this is a huge step in race relations, and demonstrates we are moving forward, not backwards. A politicians worst nightmare would be black and white united together to fight government overreach and lack of accountability. This |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/0D0E0E62-3C45-4164-A5F6-26E3B8C91942_jpe-1437233.JPG View Quote Step over my property line with that lootie-tootie shit and you’ll find out exactly what he meant. Destroying faceless establishments while horrible enough is one thing, my property and home are a whole ‘nother thing entirely. That’s what the Boog is. Fuck around and find out. |
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Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Once again, there is no proof. Even the article throws water on the claim they knew each other. Maybe they did, and they didn't recognize each other for various reasons. View Quote No proof right now, I thought it was pretty damn odd when I saw it last night. |
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Originally Posted By cm: various 'republican' anti Trumpers are making comments to the media, horrified that Trump may have said that looters be shot. I think more people are going to be shocked at the scenes of the police abandoning the 3rd precinct, and allowing the riots to take it over and burn it, than upset about a comment that may have sounded like looters should be shot esp. when they see that the police were completely cowed and helpless against the rioters View Quote Pretty much . And if not for private gun ownership in this country they would have rolled into suburban residential neighborhoods a long time ago . |
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Originally Posted By ryann: Communists aligned with BLM aligned with various other domestic terrorist groups focused on anarchy You don’t really think you’re seeing justified, righteous indignation do you? These assholes don’t give 1 fuck about George Floyd. Just like they didn’t give 1 fuck about Noors victim. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By sirensong: been thinking about this all morning. at the 2A rally in DC, a black guy named kevin dixie gave a great talk about how much we--black people and conservative 2A people--have in common when it comes to our deep suspicion of the political power structure. our outlooks are similar, but there are people whose political interests are served by keeping us at each others' throats. this kind of rioting really bothers me, and i can come up with all kinds of reasons why the people who are doing it are wrong. but i can't get it out of my head that the core concept is exactly the same: the people in power don't give a shit about us, and will kill us in order to protect their privilege. i'm not in any way excusing the looting, but we should be building bridges and coming together as we the people against the gretchens of the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sirensong: Originally Posted By Ironhandjohn: And the worst nightmare for professional race-baiters on both sides. “You know what, we’re through going after each other because y’all say we should. Instead we are going after YOU.” been thinking about this all morning. at the 2A rally in DC, a black guy named kevin dixie gave a great talk about how much we--black people and conservative 2A people--have in common when it comes to our deep suspicion of the political power structure. our outlooks are similar, but there are people whose political interests are served by keeping us at each others' throats. this kind of rioting really bothers me, and i can come up with all kinds of reasons why the people who are doing it are wrong. but i can't get it out of my head that the core concept is exactly the same: the people in power don't give a shit about us, and will kill us in order to protect their privilege. i'm not in any way excusing the looting, but we should be building bridges and coming together as we the people against the gretchens of the world. The looters and rioters are not going to "team up" with you once they get in positions of authority. They want power over you as much as the tyrants in government. Violence and intimidation is used for that purpose. They operate quite the same. The difference between the criminal rioters and tyrants are one is protected from accountability and the other is not. Both are morally reprehensible. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: I also noticed that. I would point out that looting and burning your own neighborhood is something done by dysfunctional culture. The implication is that these white kids now are adopting the behavior we typically see in urban black culture. What we wanted was the urban blacks to adopt the white culture behavior, but we see the opposite here. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By glockluv: No proof right now, I thought it was pretty damn odd when I saw it last night. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx: Once again, there is no proof. Even the article throws water on the claim they knew each other. Maybe they did, and they didn't recognize each other for various reasons. No proof right now, I thought it was pretty damn odd when I saw it last night. It is odd, but absent anything else its just a coincidence. |
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Originally Posted By Enzo300: All due respect, but honestly. You guys want to paint the possibility of a cop going down for something he technically perhaps maybe did not do, but clearly happened during something outrageous that he was doing, as being possibly an injustice of biblical proportions. Tell it to the rioters. I bet a lot of them have been accused and punished for shit that they feel technically, they aren't guilty of even tho they were there and doing bad shit. So sadly disconnected from the reality of these people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Enzo300: Originally Posted By ryann: WHAT IF-as has been hinted, there isn’t enough to charge the cops criminally? Personally I think there is, but what if not? What if an objective autopsy, performed by credible pathologists, in front of select witnesses, shows the guy had a heart attack? Again I’m not predicting that, but if we’re honest with ourselves, are we hoping that evidence shows the cop killed him? Because if he didn’t, no matter what evidence there is supporting a “natural” death, it will not be accepted and Minneapolis will go down in the books as a prelude to a catastrophe that this nation will not recover from. All due respect, but honestly. You guys want to paint the possibility of a cop going down for something he technically perhaps maybe did not do, but clearly happened during something outrageous that he was doing, as being possibly an injustice of biblical proportions. Tell it to the rioters. I bet a lot of them have been accused and punished for shit that they feel technically, they aren't guilty of even tho they were there and doing bad shit. So sadly disconnected from the reality of these people. You missed the point of that post. |
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher: He had a lengthy criminal history. Spent time in prison in Texas. And was again being arrested for another possible criminal offense. Maybe people shouldn't keep putting themselves in these positions. Eventually something bad is going to happen. Maybe it was bad luck on his part this time but history says otherwise. Was the cop kneeling on his neck right? No it wasn't. The video I've seen didn't show how he ended up on the ground. I'm going to assume there must of been some resisting going on? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By 36trap: Two certainties in life. One - regardless of the city if you're on Martin Luther King Blvd you're in the hood. Two - State Police are always the most jack booted looking thugs to show up in riot gear. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/29/14/28972262-8369619-image-a-41_1590758738981.jpg View Quote Isn't the person on the left a little short for a stormtrooper? |
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