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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:02:44 AM EST
For months now, Rivian owners have debated the cause of a common issue with their electric pickup trucks and SUVs: Rapid front tire wear. Some owners have reported their R1Ts and R1Ses are chewing through tires in as little as 6,000 miles, while other owners have pointed to the driver as being at fault. The complete answer is a bit more complicated, however, because some of the wear appears to be down to the truck's design though, the owner plays a big role, too.
Tire wear has been the subject of discussion among Rivian owners since early 2022, mere months after the R1T's launch. The community was worried the truck's roughly 7,000-pound curb weight and extreme torque could cause rapid wear, despite Pirelli covering all of Rivian's OE tires for at least 50,000 miles. Still, their concerns have been substantiated by owners complaining of accelerated wear, and even having to replace tires much earlier than expected. In the most extreme case, one owner reported having to replace their front tires after only 6,000 miles. Others speak of replacements by 12,000 miles not being uncommon, as tire wear has become a sore subject that's a regular source of divisive discourse. But there is a general consensus that the wear problems are linked to Rivian's range-maximizing "Conserve" mode. Conserve mode lowers Rivians' ride heights to improve their aerodynamics, and cuts power to their rear axles to make them front-wheel-drive. (Owners also claim their EVs automatically power down the rear axle above 35 mph in some driving modes.) Remember, that's on a three-and-a-half-ton all-terrain truck that can make 835 horsepower in quad-motor configuration. In other words, it may be laying down up to 418 hp through the front axle. That's bound to cause uneven wear, and according to one owner who tested Conserve over a 6,000-mile road trip, it does: it wore an extra millimeter of tread off the front tires.  ET THREAD bOIS |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:03:32 AM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:04:19 AM EST
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I'm sure that they are heavy as fuck has something to do with it. EVs are not light.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:05:59 AM EST
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lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:06:06 AM EST
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EVs are dumb...
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:06:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out  |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:07:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EVs are dumb... |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:07:33 AM EST
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EV's chewing through rubber tires is wicked green !
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:07:38 AM EST
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Thank god we are at Peak EV, and these fuckin useless things will just go away.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:09:47 AM EST
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Stopped reading at Pirelli, all I needed to know.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:10:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EV's chewing through rubber tires is wicked green !  |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:12:01 AM EST
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4-8 sets of tires in the same amount of time it takes me to go through one set. At least the EVs are better for the environment.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:12:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out I launch at every light in my Model Y performance. Yes, I look at my tires everyday to see if they are worn yet. Its heavy AF and has thin ass tires. I will have to replace them early. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:13:17 AM EST
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7,000 pounds will do that. Especially when you’re using what are basically light truck passenger tires and not ones designed for HD trucks that weigh that much. I don’t know how effective the motor braking is on Rivians, but I bet the regular pads and rotors are going to get borked really fast, too.
Go ask anybody involved in maintenance of armored vehicles for VIPs about maintenance intervals, including tires and brakes. Same issues. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:13:36 AM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:16:00 AM EST
[#15]
We're back to old bias ply days boys!
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:18:14 AM EST
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Instead of change the oil every 5 k miles it's change the tires every 6 to 12 k?
No thanks. Not ready for prime time. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:18:26 AM EST
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I can see this getting nasty between Pirelli & Rivian
Reminds me of Ford vs Firestone |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:26:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I launch at every light in my Model Y performance. Yes, I look at my tires everyday to see if they are worn yet. Its heavy AF and has thin ass tires. I will have to replace them early. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out I launch at every light in my Model Y performance. Yes, I look at my tires everyday to see if they are worn yet. Its heavy AF and has thin ass tires. I will have to replace them early. The are fun as hell. I only get to drive them around the shop property, mostly in service mode, but when I get one uncorked they are impressive. Max torque instantly is a different experience. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:27:14 AM EST
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If I recall from rivian’s press releases, if you don’t use the recommended tires, you lose range.
Any cargo? Lose range. Wrong phase of the moon? Lose range. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:30:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out I got to drive one, they launch hard. It is impressive. Would never buy one, but impressed. The bed cross storage is awesome, I hope it catches on for other trucks. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:30:45 AM EST
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So are you telling me their carbon footprint is wearing… thin?
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:35:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out yup I had an EV. It was quick as fuck. I fed it tires and coal. Very worth it. mountains of torque with a center of gravity that feels about four inches under ground and a short wheel base. Just awesome to punch out of corners would destroy tires again. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:36:10 AM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:38:00 AM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:38:08 AM EST
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Too much torque.
I doubt somewhat that tread rubber compounding technology in tires will be able to rise to the level required to live under those circumstances. Ultimately they will have to de-rate output at the wheel end "off idle" and only make full power available when the truck is in motion above "x mph" to make the tires last longer, but in doing so give up some of that crazy "all of it right now" torque that makes EV attractive to people. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:40:31 AM EST
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Lol I have had the same set of tires on my 23 yr old crv for 3 years
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:41:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out Hey I have that car… |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:42:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out Yeah I learned that lesson in high school.  Oh and harder tire compunds make noisier tires in my experience. So now we have louder road noise. Thankfully my tinnitus will cover it up. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:46:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BeatsOffToEVs 
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:48:53 AM EST
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Quote History |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:50:41 AM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:52:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank god we are at Peak EV, and these fuckin useless things will just go away. Yeah, this "Automobile" thing is just a fad! I can't wait until they put the hitchin' post back up at the general store, so I can hitch my horse up to it again. Nothin' like the smell o' horse droppin's in the morning, eh? |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:54:04 AM EST
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I sure am glad I don't own a Rivian, or any other EV.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:54:35 AM EST
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I can burn through a set of rear tires on my Corvette in 6k miles.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:57:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out I've seen several complaints on the Chevy Bolt forum with new owners asking why their front tires wear out so fast. Darn traction control sucks on a Bolt. I have two gas powered Coupes with way more horsepower and neither will spin the tires. If you jump out in traffic with the Bolt you can hear it spin one front tire. You'd think Chevy could do better in such a heavily computerized set up. Guess not. Every time I drive my wife's Bolt she lets me know when I spin the front tire(s). I can hear it, too, I'm just used to my Coupes not spinning the rear tires when I pop the pedal down. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:58:51 AM EST
[#36]
 Attached FileMy old truck, 8500 on a CAT scale. Oh the tire wears ?? The whole tire/weight hysteria thing is silly. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:59:10 AM EST
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The contention is that only using 2 wheels at highway speeds causes uneven wear? You mean like.... what... every other car on the road?
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:01:00 AM EST
[#38]
Lol evs
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:01:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stopped reading at Pirelli, all I needed to know. Perelli certainly won’t help things. Shit tires. But EVs are heavy as hell. And Rivians are ugly as hell. Every time I see one I think WTF, knucklehead thinks their cool, until they figure out someday Rivian will eventually fail and they will own an orphan. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:02:57 AM EST
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7000 pounds on car tires instead of a light truck tire are the problem. My 5800 pound F-250 has load range E light truck tires.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:05:30 AM EST
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So what does a Rivian owner give up in range if they never use Conserve mode?
According to Rivian: "Get in and get out there with an estimated 400 miles of range." 200? 300? |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:07:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EV's chewing through rubber tires is wicked green ! How many quarts of oil are in those tires? Serious question, what are they planning on making tires out of when we stop pumping oil? Are they hoping that all EV’s are hovercraft by then? |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:07:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lmao...if you are gonna launch from every stop light don't be surpsied with your tires wear out  Idiocracy: Your Shit's All Retarded (long version) |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:08:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7,000 pounds will do that. Especially when you’re using what are basically light truck passenger tires and not ones designed for HD trucks that weigh that much. I don’t know how effective the motor braking is on Rivians, but I bet the regular pads and rotors are going to get borked really fast, too. Go ask anybody involved in maintenance of armored vehicles for VIPs about maintenance intervals, including tires and brakes. Same issues. Don’t know the gvwr of a rivian, not going to bother to look. If the curb weight really is 7k the gross must be 8500 at least. They should have a C tire at minimum. Not sure about their regenerative braking but my teslas you could get away with hardly touching the brakes at all if you wanted to. From about 5mph to 0 is easy to do. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:11:27 AM EST
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My Mustang's rear tires were about down to the wear bars at 8k miles, but I drive like a jackass.
I'd be pissed if they wore out because I was taking it easy and the alignment intentionally sucked. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:12:33 AM EST
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 Much green. So environmental. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:15:06 AM EST
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Super heavy vehicles wearing out their tires? No way!
It's better than falling through a parking garage floor. Now, let's do a study about the electro-magnetic field frying your balls while you drive 
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:23:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, this "Automobile" thing is just a fad! I can't wait until they put the hitchin' post back up at the general store, so I can hitch my horse up to it again. Nothin' like the smell o' horse droppin's in the morning, eh? Move to Kentucky. We were all modern and up to date 50 years ago, now we have hitching posts at many stores. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:34:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many quarts of oil are in those tires? 7-22 gallons per tire |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:36:13 AM EST
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Guy down the road has a Rivian. I’ve gotta ask him about the tires.
It’s a dopey looking vehicle. |
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