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Posted: 6/29/2024 9:12:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Rumors going around that the International Legion in Ukraine has seen F-16's making attacks.
I was hoping my guess for June for F-16's was accurate, let's see if more info come about.
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Posted: 6/29/2024 9:23:59 AM EDT
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"If the Yaks don't get you the Falcons will"
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 9:32:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VflTaUnEF9wLooked like Switchblade kills. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 9:39:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aikibiker: It is certainly a great demonstration of why you shouldn't "stunt drive" or lay down/play in the road. Probably something that should be shown in driver's ED classes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aikibiker: Originally Posted By DPeacher: Originally Posted By Prime: What the fuck 
LOL It is certainly a great demonstration of why you shouldn't "stunt drive" or lay down/play in the road. Probably something that should be shown in driver's ED classes. The stunt reminds me of something some stupid American teenagers would do. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 10:40:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: This may be true, at least partially true. What happens when virtually all Russian SAM systems are destroyed, and the only defense left is manpads? Can A10's flying at treetop levels and running close to 500 miles an hour deliver the goods? Can confused and drone harassed Russians use a manpad under fire? How will supply lines react when they are harassed in the rear by strafing runs and quick exits via A10's? The reaction time of anyone using a manpad leaves a lot to be desired when the aircraft comes in low and leaves immediately. Changing A10 tactics, so as not to linger in the attack zone, seems vital to success. I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:10:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:18:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:36:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:44:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:47:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: "Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? A Ronin is a Samurai without a master. A free spirit that wanders and goes and does what he wants. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:55:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:11:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By kpacman: What does the A10 bring to the game that an attack helicopter can't do? Many pages ago I mentioned a conversation I had with an A10 pilot in Germany who was there for war games taking place. He compared the ability of an attack helicopter to pop up from a treeline and fire off a missile or two then duck back down vs. the vulnerability of an A10 in that scenario. His own words were " we will have a very glorious and short lifespan in that kind of combat arena." With the plethora of air defense systems in the field, I don't think the A10 is a good fit. This may be true, at least partially true. What happens when virtually all Russian SAM systems are destroyed, and the only defense left is manpads? Can A10's flying at treetop levels and running close to 500 miles an hour deliver the goods? Can confused and drone harassed Russians use a manpad under fire? How will supply lines react when they are harassed in the rear by strafing runs and quick exits via A10's? The reaction time of anyone using a manpad leaves a lot to be desired when the aircraft comes in low and leaves immediately. Changing A10 tactics, so as not to linger in the attack zone, seems vital to success. Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Let's also add that when money matters, fixed wing aircraft are cheaper to operate and maintain per flight hour. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. Oh I never expected Brrrrt, I expected us to get rid of old but useful system capabilities while we upgrade. They can use the aging IR maverick missiles to hit targets at 7 to 12 miles away, at night. Plus loading the A-10 with ecm pods like the AN/ALQ-184 and -131 can help protect from Russian fire control radars, something I never see on Ukrainian and Russian Su-25's much in this war. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:41:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRKW595WIAAjFFH?format=jpg&name=medium This is way out west (relatively), closer to Lviv, nowhere near the front lines. Russia is wrecking Ukraine everywhere.  
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z]
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:50:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: This is way out west (relatively), closer to Lviv, nowhere near the front lines. Russia is wrecking Ukraine everywhere. Way before even the Georgia adventure some Russian precursor to the Solovyov show was bragging about their strategy to quickly bring down a soft Western adversary. Targeting utilities was an important part of the plan per the talking heads. Besides targeting the power plants they also claimed purpose-designed capabilities for long-term disruption of the water and sanitation systems. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:51:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgMmhWwAAdQBo?format=png&name=900x900
My guess is the votes are found to ensure the hardliner wins |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: This may be true, at least partially true. What happens when virtually all Russian SAM systems are destroyed, and the only defense left is manpads? Can A10's flying at treetop levels and running close to 500 miles an hour deliver the goods? Can confused and drone harassed Russians use a manpad under fire? How will supply lines react when they are harassed in the rear by strafing runs and quick exits via A10's? The reaction time of anyone using a manpad leaves a lot to be desired when the aircraft comes in low and leaves immediately. Changing A10 tactics, so as not to linger in the attack zone, seems vital to success. I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. First, it's war, there are always risk. You may not be comfortable with the risk, but UA is, as they are currently flying SU-25's in this environment. And the A10 is a much better plane, with much better systems, carrying much better weapons. Second, no, they will never get all of the SAM systems. SEAD and DEAD are ongoing missions allowing for the TEMPORARY gaining of air superiority LOCALLY to help advance a specific offensive or help beat back a RU one. Third, as SEAD and DEAD continue to work, the area of temporary local air superiority gets larger and last longer until it covers a specific front, eventually becoming permanent. Will they ever gain air superiority over RU in all of UA/RU, most likely not and they will never attain air dominance, but that's not the point. Fourth, UA can't fight like the US, they don't have the skill set, the experience or the equipment to do so. Fifth, the USAF has been trying to get rid of the old girl for decades to free up money for other things. I think it's time to do so. As a former 11B, I've never liked the idea, but I understand times change and weapons need to change too. For the way WE fight, the old girl isn't the best choice anymore, just like my beloved M113's aren't the best choice anymore. It's sad to see them go, but like people, equipment can get to old to complete it's mission too. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:05:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. A10 can do everything the SU25 can. Lob Rockets |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:11:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: A10 can do everything the SU25 can. Lob Rockets Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. A10 can do everything the SU25 can. Lob Rockets Fire and forget IR guided AGM-65G that we were still making by the hundreds in 2009. I will bet that missile could kill slow Russian attack helicopters as well. Imagine drone assisted attacks on armor.  Operation Desert Storm: A-10/AGM-65 Maverick Weapon System Video |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: First, it's war, there are always risk. You may not be comfortable with the risk, but UA is, as they are currently flying SU-25's in this environment. And the A10 is a much better plane, with much better systems, carrying much better weapons. Second, no, they will never get all of the SAM systems. SEAD and DEAD are ongoing missions allowing for the TEMPORARY gaining of air superiority LOCALLY to help advance a specific offensive or help beat back a RU one. Third, as SEAD and DEAD continue to work, the area of temporary local air superiority gets larger and last longer until it covers a specific front, eventually becoming permanent. Will they ever gain air superiority over RU in all of UA/RU, most likely not and they will never attain air dominance, but that's not the point. Fourth, UA can't fight like the US, they don't have the skill set, the experience or the equipment to do so. Fifth, the USAF has been trying to get rid of the old girl for decades to free up money for other things. I think it's time to do so. As a former 11B, I've never liked the idea, but I understand times change and weapons need to change too. For the way WE fight, the old girl isn't the best choice anymore, just like my beloved M113's aren't the best choice anymore. It's sad to see them go, but like people, equipment can get to old to complete it's mission too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: This may be true, at least partially true. What happens when virtually all Russian SAM systems are destroyed, and the only defense left is manpads? Can A10's flying at treetop levels and running close to 500 miles an hour deliver the goods? Can confused and drone harassed Russians use a manpad under fire? How will supply lines react when they are harassed in the rear by strafing runs and quick exits via A10's? The reaction time of anyone using a manpad leaves a lot to be desired when the aircraft comes in low and leaves immediately. Changing A10 tactics, so as not to linger in the attack zone, seems vital to success. I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. First, it's war, there are always risk. You may not be comfortable with the risk, but UA is, as they are currently flying SU-25's in this environment. And the A10 is a much better plane, with much better systems, carrying much better weapons. Second, no, they will never get all of the SAM systems. SEAD and DEAD are ongoing missions allowing for the TEMPORARY gaining of air superiority LOCALLY to help advance a specific offensive or help beat back a RU one. Third, as SEAD and DEAD continue to work, the area of temporary local air superiority gets larger and last longer until it covers a specific front, eventually becoming permanent. Will they ever gain air superiority over RU in all of UA/RU, most likely not and they will never attain air dominance, but that's not the point. Fourth, UA can't fight like the US, they don't have the skill set, the experience or the equipment to do so. Fifth, the USAF has been trying to get rid of the old girl for decades to free up money for other things. I think it's time to do so. As a former 11B, I've never liked the idea, but I understand times change and weapons need to change too. For the way WE fight, the old girl isn't the best choice anymore, just like my beloved M113's aren't the best choice anymore. It's sad to see them go, but like people, equipment can get to old to complete it's mission too. Yep. Air defense never “goes away for good”. It gives you OPPORTUNITY to strike in windows and requires coordination before more systems are transferred to cover the gap. It does degrade the enemies personnel/experience, and costs their economy greatly as AD systems are exceptionally expensive. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Fire and forget IR guided AGM-65G that we were still making by the hundreds in 2009. I will bet that missile could kill slow Russian attack helicopters as well. Imagine drone assisted attacks on armor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1X6xBNEK0Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Plus the fact that after 3 years in this war both sides still use the Su-25 with inferior systems all round. Maybe at some point it will make sense to backfill the Su-25 with them. But even then I doubt we'll see the BRRRRTTTT moment we've all been waiting for. A10 can do everything the SU25 can. Lob Rockets Fire and forget IR guided AGM-65G that we were still making by the hundreds in 2009. I will bet that missile could kill slow Russian attack helicopters as well. Imagine drone assisted attacks on armor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1X6xBNEK0That too…. Much more useful than a Hind Or even a Cobra. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:30:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRLoVCQXEAAdync?format=jpg&name=large He don’t miss 😂 |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:34:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:35:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Wtf is that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that The Yak-52's are trainer aircraft that got pressed into service shooting down Russian drones. It is cheaper than using air defense or air to air missiles missiles. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Wtf is that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that An old YAK plane from WW2 with a guy in the back shooting drones down lol. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: "Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? Because those movies and the lore of samurai’s and ronin are cool I’m sure someone will be along to tell us that it’s racist and they have no master etc…. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:39:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: A Ronin is a Samurai without a master. A free spirit that wanders and goes and does what he wants. Also sounds cool, like the movie. edit:beat. I also think there is a strong element of "it sounds cool" in a lot of the nazi symbology used by elements of both sides. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:48:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Beautiful performance. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 2:11:47 PM EDT
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The more I look at the CZ Bren 3, the more I want one. Glad CZ is setting up shop here.
 Commercial:  THE NEW CZ BREN 3 Extreme toughness for any mission! Models and options:  THE NEW CZ BREN 3 Tougher than ever! TFB TV:  The NEW CZ Bren 3 is Finally Here! |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 2:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Would your best role in the war not be flying over your own country shooting down drones from an open cockpit prop plane? A Stearman with a couple of MG42 zippers? SBD/A-24 with a pair of .30 cal AN/M2 (M1919 variants) in the gunner's position with the AN/M2 .50 cal cowl-mounted guns as well. This gives you some options a a lot of range/loiter time. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 2:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: An old YAK plane from WW2 with a guy in the back shooting drones down lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that An old YAK plane from WW2 with a guy in the back shooting drones down lol. Produced mid-70s to late-90s. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 3:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Produced mid-70s to late-90s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that An old YAK plane from WW2 with a guy in the back shooting drones down lol. Produced mid-70s to late-90s. Huh. Didn’t know that. Thought they were ww2 trainers like the Texan |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 3:12:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Wtf is that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium Wtf is that Basically stealing my plan to deal with the Shitheel drones. Mass produced prop planes equipped with some sort of auto cannon and comms. I always suspected I was flag officer material but I won't charge DARPA for this one . |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 3:24:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Gotta move stuff at night.
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Posted: 6/29/2024 3:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Huh. Didn’t know that. Thought they were ww2 trainers like the Texan That would have been Yak-7. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 5:18:23 PM EDT
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1 hr ago, plus multiple sonic booms from Israeli jets over Lebanon currently.
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Posted: 6/29/2024 6:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Also sounds cool, like the movie. edit:beat. I also think there is a strong element of "it sounds cool" in a lot of the nazi symbology used by elements of both sides. Yep. Nazi ideology was terrible and evil. If you didn’t know what it was, you’d probably say hey I’m a soldier and this represents what I’m going through or am doing. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 7:50:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Kursk drone attack
 Air defense work reported over the Kursk region https://t.me/ukraina_ru/206670 Air defense against UAVs continues to operate in the sky over Oboyan in the Kursk region. https://t.me/radarrussiia/7089 Another UAV on Oboyan from the Belgorod region. https://t.me/radarrussiia/7090 Overflight in the Krasnoyaruzhsky district of the Belgorod region from 6 UAVs. Direction - Oboyansky district. https://t.me/radarrussiia/7091 ⚠️ Kursk region repels a massive UAV attack. At least about 20 UAVs have already been shot down! 🇷🇺 https://t.me/atypicalday/33290 |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 7:53:44 PM EDT
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💥🔥Tokmak under fire from Ukrainian Armed Forces militants
The Nazis are shelling this city in the Zaporozhye region with heavy weapons. Russian air defense systems are working. Details later. https://t.me/vrogov/16421 |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 7:55:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Lipetsk - 7 UAVs destroyed.
There are 7 more UAVs in the sky over Lipetsk and the region. https://t.me/radarrussiia/7134 Nizhny Novgorod under attack by UAVs. https://t.me/radarrussiia/7152 The strongest fire in Nizhny Novgorod. Eyewitnesses report that explosions are heard. According to SHOT, at this moment warehouses are burning at the waste disposal site on Moskovskoye Highway. The fire area is about 1000 square meters, the fire has been assigned the second rank of complexity, a huge column of thick black smoke can be seen many kilometers away from different parts of the city. First, tanks with paints and varnishes are on fire, and there may also be gas cylinders inside the premises. Firefighters are already on the scene, but the fire has not yet been contained. There has been no information about casualties yet. https://t.me/shot_shot/68310 Video
️The main thing for now. 🔴 A danger from UAVs has been declared in the Kursk, Bryansk and Voronezh regions. 🔴Air defense worked in Kurchatov, Oboyan, Fatezh and Solntsevo, Kursk region, as well as in the Grayvoronsky district of the Belgorod region. 🇷🇺 https://t.me/atypicalday/33284 ⚡️ Over the past night, an attempt by the Kyiv regime to carry out a terrorist attack using aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicles on objects on the territory of the Russian Federation was stopped. Air defense duty systems destroyed fifteen UAVs over the territory of Kursk, 9 UAVs over the territory of Lipetsk, four UAVs each over the territories of Voronezh and Bryansk, and two UAVs each over the territories of Oryol and Belgorod regions. 🔹 Russian Ministry of Defense https://t.me/mod_russia/40478 |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPYUXuWQAAKLQT?format=jpg&name=medium That’s YAK number two unless they repainted it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Rumors going around that the International Legion in Ukraine has seen F-16's making attacks. I was hoping my guess for June for F-16's was accurate, let's see if more info come about.
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:30:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: This may be true, at least partially true. What happens when virtually all Russian SAM systems are destroyed, and the only defense left is manpads? Can A10's flying at treetop levels and running close to 500 miles an hour deliver the goods? Can confused and drone harassed Russians use a manpad under fire? How will supply lines react when they are harassed in the rear by strafing runs and quick exits via A10's? The reaction time of anyone using a manpad leaves a lot to be desired when the aircraft comes in low and leaves immediately. Changing A10 tactics, so as not to linger in the attack zone, seems vital to success. I can't ever see Ukraine elimination all SAM systems leaving them with only manpads. Neither side so far has gained air superiority, that's why you are seeing glide bombs and cruise missiles being launched from long distances. Ukraine will never eliminate all of Russia's SA-6's, Buk's or TOR systems. The risks posed to the A10 will always be there. As much as it would be cool for the A-10 to finish out its service killing Russians by the truckload, I just don’t think the conditions will allow that any time soon. Absorbing F16s basically doubles, perhaps more, the size of the UAF. Absorbing a similar number of planes of another type would be a huge stretch. However it does provide more system depth if God forbid the war goes on and on and on. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:31:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: "Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Ronins" unit? Why exactly have they chosen that name? They like the culture? There’s a decent amount of Samurai imagery/references in various UA units. Muramasa drone unit is another one. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:37:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: SBD/A-24 with a pair of .30 cal AN/M2 (M1919 variants) in the gunner's position with the AN/M2 .50 cal cowl-mounted guns as well. This gives you some options a a lot of range/loiter time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By doc540: Would your best role in the war not be flying over your own country shooting down drones from an open cockpit prop plane? A Stearman with a couple of MG42 zippers? SBD/A-24 with a pair of .30 cal AN/M2 (M1919 variants) in the gunner's position with the AN/M2 .50 cal cowl-mounted guns as well. This gives you some options a a lot of range/loiter time. Make Scarff Rings Great again! 
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:41:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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Nothing like packing up your toys and acting like you are going home, then come back in six hours with all your friends and 20 tanks!
Wrong link,sorry.
Right link!
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