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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:36:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:42:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: I don’t get it. https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/3/14/air-force-seeks-to-bridge-aerial-refueling-gap |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:46:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: I get what you are saying. One thing you have to remember, is that some folks, especially on the right, don't see what impact this war will have on the US domestically. Despite all the cries from Ukraine and the moral dilemma of helping them against the Russian bullies that appear to be borderline evil, the fact does remain the regardless of the result of the war WITHOUT US involvement, there was little domestic impact to the US. Plenty of people on the right look at this as a not my monkeys not my Circus. This is is perfectly legit and valid opinion to have, whether you are for or against our involvement. The fact remains that without significant US investment into this war, domestically there was going to be little impact to to the US. This is not and will not be a case of dominos falling and Russia taking over Europe. Especially after seeing how fucking pathetic theor military is. NATO, despite being drastically underfunded would still fucking decimate Russia conventionally. A few other non NATO members like the Stan's, Moldova, Belarus were at risk. Now Sweden and Finland are off the menu. As a former political insider, I can say without question we are being led by fucking retards. This goes for both parties. We are on our second generation of leaders that are IVY League educated, which in this case is a BAD thing. These leaders of our polical, military, business, and THINK TANKS have been programmed since the late 80s to think one way. If a preprogrammed scenario appears, they have no solution. All the basic responses are programmed if/then scenarios thought up 30 fucking years ago. The people in "charge" and the creators of these scenarios are long dead or retired. They taught these things not a a guide, but as steadfast rules. Rules that are to be followed with no deviation. Minimax game theory mostly for all these possible international scenarios. Absolutely no outside thinking is allowed, you follow the pre established rules or you get the boot from school/govenment/MIC/business/law. The above is why we have lost out on so many things internationally in the last 2 to 3 decades. We lost a fucking war to Neanderthals in Afghanistan, the Houthi are somehow still attacking shipping lanes, China and Russia continue to take over Africa and South and Central America. I have stated in the old thread a couple of times the US could end this war in Ukraine in a couple of days without any direct involvement. I am guessing Trump has someone close to him that has my line of thinking. Russia has close ties in other countries they cannot possibly defend at this point especially after 2.5 years of being rated in Ukraine. Go after Russian puppet states, especially those in the West. Begin to stage a coup in places like Venezuela, Panama, Cuba. Those nations domestically mean a shitload more to the US. Park a CSG off their coast if needed. Tell Russia leave Ukraine now or else via back-channels. Act like the fucking superpower we are. This is a win win scenario for the US. We could easily take out leaders of this quasi-commie dictator regimes in our backyard that are anti US. Black Ops hits. A fucking cruise missile. I don't give a shit. We are a superpower and need to act like it. What is the rest of the world going to do about it? Seriously. We either get and install a US friendly regime in much more domestically important countries than Ukraine, or Russia fucking leaves Ukraine. Either scenario works out for us, especially the first (sorry Ukraine). I'm above average intelligence. I am educated. I'm not a particularly creative person. I can say without question, in war game scenarios played out against supposably genius level ivy leaders, I absolutely kicked their asses day after day after day. To the point of embarrassing them, daily. I'm not THAT smart. But I was going up against preprogrammed people that could not use logic and reason, they could only use the variables that were on the table and when thrown any type of curveball could not react, AT ALL. They literally would cry foul and sometimes have a breakdown or outright quit. Those are the people behind the scenes making the decisions that are going to those who are technically in charge. We are been guided by fucking idiots. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By CMOS: Originally Posted By Glock63:  Imagine being so fucking stupid you'd believe this shit. Which is basically HALF of OUR population. CMOS  It's incredibly disheartening that conservatives, whom I've always believed to be people of common sense and logic, could be so stupid and easily conned. You sound like ….me…. I wonder how many of us remain? At some point, I’ll do a Poll. Though, whether it’s 40% or 80%, I know the results will be disappointing. Far too many of the good guys, were banished or died, in the last 20 years. I get what you are saying. One thing you have to remember, is that some folks, especially on the right, don't see what impact this war will have on the US domestically. Despite all the cries from Ukraine and the moral dilemma of helping them against the Russian bullies that appear to be borderline evil, the fact does remain the regardless of the result of the war WITHOUT US involvement, there was little domestic impact to the US. Plenty of people on the right look at this as a not my monkeys not my Circus. This is is perfectly legit and valid opinion to have, whether you are for or against our involvement. The fact remains that without significant US investment into this war, domestically there was going to be little impact to to the US. This is not and will not be a case of dominos falling and Russia taking over Europe. Especially after seeing how fucking pathetic theor military is. NATO, despite being drastically underfunded would still fucking decimate Russia conventionally. A few other non NATO members like the Stan's, Moldova, Belarus were at risk. Now Sweden and Finland are off the menu. As a former political insider, I can say without question we are being led by fucking retards. This goes for both parties. We are on our second generation of leaders that are IVY League educated, which in this case is a BAD thing. These leaders of our polical, military, business, and THINK TANKS have been programmed since the late 80s to think one way. If a preprogrammed scenario appears, they have no solution. All the basic responses are programmed if/then scenarios thought up 30 fucking years ago. The people in "charge" and the creators of these scenarios are long dead or retired. They taught these things not a a guide, but as steadfast rules. Rules that are to be followed with no deviation. Minimax game theory mostly for all these possible international scenarios. Absolutely no outside thinking is allowed, you follow the pre established rules or you get the boot from school/govenment/MIC/business/law. The above is why we have lost out on so many things internationally in the last 2 to 3 decades. We lost a fucking war to Neanderthals in Afghanistan, the Houthi are somehow still attacking shipping lanes, China and Russia continue to take over Africa and South and Central America. I have stated in the old thread a couple of times the US could end this war in Ukraine in a couple of days without any direct involvement. I am guessing Trump has someone close to him that has my line of thinking. Russia has close ties in other countries they cannot possibly defend at this point especially after 2.5 years of being rated in Ukraine. Go after Russian puppet states, especially those in the West. Begin to stage a coup in places like Venezuela, Panama, Cuba. Those nations domestically mean a shitload more to the US. Park a CSG off their coast if needed. Tell Russia leave Ukraine now or else via back-channels. Act like the fucking superpower we are. This is a win win scenario for the US. We could easily take out leaders of this quasi-commie dictator regimes in our backyard that are anti US. Black Ops hits. A fucking cruise missile. I don't give a shit. We are a superpower and need to act like it. What is the rest of the world going to do about it? Seriously. We either get and install a US friendly regime in much more domestically important countries than Ukraine, or Russia fucking leaves Ukraine. Either scenario works out for us, especially the first (sorry Ukraine). I'm above average intelligence. I am educated. I'm not a particularly creative person. I can say without question, in war game scenarios played out against supposably genius level ivy leaders, I absolutely kicked their asses day after day after day. To the point of embarrassing them, daily. I'm not THAT smart. But I was going up against preprogrammed people that could not use logic and reason, they could only use the variables that were on the table and when thrown any type of curveball could not react, AT ALL. They literally would cry foul and sometimes have a breakdown or outright quit. Those are the people behind the scenes making the decisions that are going to those who are technically in charge. We are been guided by fucking idiots. The same argument can be made of every war since WW2. No war since 1945 was relevant domestically, not even GWOT. This idea dovetails with the amazing newfound isolationism and fiscal conservatism which certain segments of the Republican party suddenly seem to have discovered. Few to no Republicans cared from 1945 to 2022 if a foreign war directly impacted the US mainland, and in the same period few to no Republicans ever saw a war they didn’t love if they got to wave the flag, watch spiffy US weapons in action, and reap defense contracts. Ron Paul was the only Republican who was a CONSISTENT and IMO sincere isolationist in the last 50 years. I was here during most of GWOT, and even after it was clear the whole fucking thing was a shitshow, few to no conservatives here became fiscally conservative isolationists - they were too busy applauding us blowing trillions of dollars to kill goatherders with AKs. And yes, I was one of them. Where I will say the current admin has clearly failed is for Biden (or anyone!) to make a strong case about what’s at stake. He has clearly been unable to provide the communication the US public deserves. That said, even if he did, half the US public would willingly believe 100% the opposite of whatever he said because the political polarization and stupidity is so bad right now. I believe it is fair to say that the most Trump-aligned elements of the Republican party have not responded to the situation in good faith as a matter of US national interests and still would not have done so even if Biden were capable of making a case. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:53:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It IS crazy. I would NOT vote for them for POTUS or Senate etc. But sometimes the China-shop DESERVES a raging bull... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Crazy that 5 years ago if we had said you’re a Tulsi Gabbard and RFKjr fan you would have laughed us off. Now we are hitching our wagons to lifelong dems (until 30 seconds ago) It IS crazy. I would NOT vote for them for POTUS or Senate etc. But sometimes the China-shop DESERVES a raging bull... You’re fetishizing stupidity. What we need is sound policy. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:00:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: And another one… https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVwrCyIa8AMjxhM?format=jpg&name=large They are insane if they try and take the same path again. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:02:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/3/14/air-force-seeks-to-bridge-aerial-refueling-gap Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By fike: I don’t get it. https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/3/14/air-force-seeks-to-bridge-aerial-refueling-gap The wild hyperbole confused me. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:09:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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15 and 25 second videos of air raids. 
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:10:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Again I'm not advocating voting for them for POTUS or even Congress. They are vocally against the corrupt system that is destroying the USA so I will consider them a possible alley as a raging bull. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: The political system does need an enema, but the solution is not to put assclowns like RFK Jr., Gabbard, and Vivek into positions of power. RFK Jr., though possibly not actually compromised, is still very much so a pro-Russian actor who lies about the history of NATO expansion and palls around with twice convicted pedophile, Scott Ritter. Gabbard supported Russian action in Syria back in the day, promoted the biolab conspiracy, and is an Assadist. She was also a very anti-gun politician until relatively recently, likely when she realized that there were more people sympathetic to her on the right than on the left. Vivek is on record as advocating for turning Nordstream back on to bind Europe's economies to Russia again and removing NATO from Eastern Europe. I would not trust a government run by those people to not literally help Russia. Again I'm not advocating voting for them for POTUS or even Congress. They are vocally against the corrupt system that is destroying the USA so I will consider them a possible alley as a raging bull. The idea that “anyone and anything that destroys things because I am frustrated and feel personally powerless” is incredibly wrongheaded, and I see it casually mentioned all over the place. The Constitution matters. The rule of law matters. Hiring fucking morons to break everything because you don’t know what else to do and you think it will feel good is the absolute last thing any sane American should wish for. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:13:47 PM EST
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Short leg, gas hungry, not enough flying gas stations
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:22:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The same argument can be made of every war since WW2. No war since 1945 was relevant domestically, not even GWOT. This idea dovetails with the amazing newfound isolationism and fiscal conservatism which certain segments of the Republican party suddenly seem to have discovered. Few to no Republicans cared from 1945 to 2022 if a foreign war directly impacted the US mainland, and in the same period few to no Republicans ever saw a war they didn’t love if they got to wave the flag, watch spiffy US weapons in action, and reap defense contracts. Ron Paul was the only Republican who was a CONSISTENT and IMO sincere isolationist in the last 50 years. I was here during most of GWOT, and even after it was clear the whole fucking thing was a shitshow, few to no conservatives here became fiscally conservative isolationists - they were too busy applauding us blowing trillions of dollars to kill goatherders with AKs. And yes, I was one of them. Where I will say the current admin has clearly failed is for Biden (or anyone!) to make a strong case about what’s at stake. He has clearly been unable to provide the communication the US public deserves. That said, even if he did, half the US public would willingly believe 100% the opposite of whatever he said because the political polarization and stupidity is so bad right now. I believe it is fair to say that the most Trump-aligned elements of the Republican party have not responded to the situation in good faith as a matter of US national interests and still would not have done so even if Biden were capable of making a case. You aren't wrong with any of that. But, some of us have learned from our mistakes as well. Korea and Vietnam were well before my time, and I was in college when GWOT kicked off. I was all in and nearly joined to serve. Like most Americans, I was sold a BS narrative about Iraq and Afghanistan had no actual plan. I've learned to not trust what I'm being sold. I think a lot of those here also need to realize there is a vast difference between isolationism and American first policies. I see far too many in this thread alone immediately go off into calling Putin puffer when someone doesn't agree with them. We have to keep an open mind to those who are not all in on fully supporting this war. I think those with a more isolationist view have a very valid viewpoint, even if I don't 100% agree with it. In some cases made, it is a realistic and well thought out opinion that we need to stop pissing away money on issues that don't have a dramatic affect on the US. No matter how you slice it, we here have dumped billions of dollars and resources into two ongoing wars that have little domestic impact. It's a fucking valid opinion whether you like it or not. I don't agree with those saying it, but I get where they are coming from of it is an honest opinion. All that said, there are plenty of morals reasons why we should be helping. I absolutely did not want to see a genocide in Ukraine. I think there is a redline that we have flirted with for a while now on when is enough, enough, and "force" Ukraine to take a shitty deal that ends this. Our Administration fucked them with the slow trickle which I was adamantly against especially early on. Ukraine could have made a more serious push in the 2022 offensive if they had more and better weapons and it looked like they stood a chance of "winning". Regardless, this still has no end in sight and those people struggling to make ends meet with grocery prices, inflation, and housing - I can't blame people for saying enough is enough. It's valid. On the flip side, there are obvious Russian trolls. I've reported more than one myself here and I think those are the only times I've used the report button. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:23:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian art.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVx92CBa8AEiMuW?format=jpg&name=large Did they stack old tires on top of their painting to protect it? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:26:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Do you think this is some kind of organized or group effort? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By governmentman: Highly effective trolls and obtuse idiots evoking responses that cross the line. When responding to stupidity you need to be careful. 'You're an idiot because X, Y, Z' is what they want because it will get your wrist slapped. 'It is rather sad that someone would be fooled by this stuff, the truth is X, Y, Z' is the better way to do it. Don't insult directly. Plus pity / condescension cuts much deeper than anger. The right attitude is to treat the troll like a small child that has shat themselves and you are politely cleaning up the mess for everyone else. It doesn't get you a warning / ban, it undermines their goal, and discourages the troll as it's not the kind of reaction they want. Do you think this is some kind of organized or group effort? Yes. Not so much lately, but there were many instances of troll brigading in the old thread. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:30:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The idea that “anyone and anything that destroys things because I am frustrated and feel personally powerless” is incredibly wrongheaded, and I see it casually mentioned all over the place. The Constitution matters. The rule of law matters. Hiring fucking morons to break everything because you don’t know what else to do and you think it will feel good is the absolute last thing any sane American should wish for. 20 years ago you would be right. Do you really think we are an actual Constitutional Republican in 2024 and that the left gives a shit about the rule of law and the Constitution? You have good responses in this thread and others. You are a respected member here, but you should know that ship has sailed and turning the other cheek is what got us here. In not for burning it all down, but continuing on the same path is madness, you know it and I know it. I certainly don't look at Trump, RFK Jr and Tulsi as saviors, but at least they see the problem and are willing to call it out. They are pretty fucking far from perfect but if they are tossing monkey wrenches into the plans of the left, I'm alright with it. Certainly beats the GWB, McCain, and Romney types. Yes, I am absolutely saying two people who were Democrats at this time last year are better than some Republicans. We bitch and moan about the whole big club thing, then attack people who are attacking the club. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:34:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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I think Lebanon just kicked off!
Large scale rocket attacks from the north.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:35:23 PM EST
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15 sec video. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:41:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: I think Lebanon just kicked off! Large scale rocket attacks from the north.
You might be right. Last week Israeli intelligence was telling the press they expected an initial attack by Hezbollah and Iraqi groups, followed by a second wave from Iran. The Iraqis just claimed a drone attack on Haifa. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:42:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 15 sec video. I guess they forgot to include the free airshow in the AirBnb advertisement! |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:50:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The same argument can be made of every war since WW2. No war since 1945 was relevant domestically, not even GWOT. This idea dovetails with the amazing newfound isolationism and fiscal conservatism which certain segments of the Republican party suddenly seem to have discovered. Few to no Republicans cared from 1945 to 2022 if a foreign war directly impacted the US mainland, and in the same period few to no Republicans ever saw a war they didn’t love if they got to wave the flag, watch spiffy US weapons in action, and reap defense contracts. Ron Paul was the only Republican who was a CONSISTENT and IMO sincere isolationist in the last 50 years. I was here during most of GWOT, and even after it was clear the whole fucking thing was a shitshow, few to no conservatives here became fiscally conservative isolationists - they were too busy applauding us blowing trillions of dollars to kill goatherders with AKs. And yes, I was one of them. Where I will say the current admin has clearly failed is for Biden (or anyone!) to make a strong case about what’s at stake. He has clearly been unable to provide the communication the US public deserves. That said, even if he did, half the US public would willingly believe 100% the opposite of whatever he said because the political polarization and stupidity is so bad right now. I believe it is fair to say that the most Trump-aligned elements of the Republican party have not responded to the situation in good faith as a matter of US national interests and still would not have done so even if Biden were capable of making a case. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By CMOS: Originally Posted By Glock63: Imagine being so fucking stupid you'd believe this shit. Which is basically HALF of OUR population. CMOS It's incredibly disheartening that conservatives, whom I've always believed to be people of common sense and logic, could be so stupid and easily conned. You sound like ….me…. I wonder how many of us remain? At some point, I’ll do a Poll. Though, whether it’s 40% or 80%, I know the results will be disappointing. Far too many of the good guys, were banished or died, in the last 20 years. I get what you are saying. One thing you have to remember, is that some folks, especially on the right, don't see what impact this war will have on the US domestically. Despite all the cries from Ukraine and the moral dilemma of helping them against the Russian bullies that appear to be borderline evil, the fact does remain the regardless of the result of the war WITHOUT US involvement, there was little domestic impact to the US. Plenty of people on the right look at this as a not my monkeys not my Circus. This is is perfectly legit and valid opinion to have, whether you are for or against our involvement. The fact remains that without significant US investment into this war, domestically there was going to be little impact to to the US. This is not and will not be a case of dominos falling and Russia taking over Europe. Especially after seeing how fucking pathetic theor military is. NATO, despite being drastically underfunded would still fucking decimate Russia conventionally. A few other non NATO members like the Stan's, Moldova, Belarus were at risk. Now Sweden and Finland are off the menu. As a former political insider, I can say without question we are being led by fucking retards. This goes for both parties. We are on our second generation of leaders that are IVY League educated, which in this case is a BAD thing. These leaders of our polical, military, business, and THINK TANKS have been programmed since the late 80s to think one way. If a preprogrammed scenario appears, they have no solution. All the basic responses are programmed if/then scenarios thought up 30 fucking years ago. The people in "charge" and the creators of these scenarios are long dead or retired. They taught these things not a a guide, but as steadfast rules. Rules that are to be followed with no deviation. Minimax game theory mostly for all these possible international scenarios. Absolutely no outside thinking is allowed, you follow the pre established rules or you get the boot from school/govenment/MIC/business/law. The above is why we have lost out on so many things internationally in the last 2 to 3 decades. We lost a fucking war to Neanderthals in Afghanistan, the Houthi are somehow still attacking shipping lanes, China and Russia continue to take over Africa and South and Central America. I have stated in the old thread a couple of times the US could end this war in Ukraine in a couple of days without any direct involvement. I am guessing Trump has someone close to him that has my line of thinking. Russia has close ties in other countries they cannot possibly defend at this point especially after 2.5 years of being rated in Ukraine. Go after Russian puppet states, especially those in the West. Begin to stage a coup in places like Venezuela, Panama, Cuba. Those nations domestically mean a shitload more to the US. Park a CSG off their coast if needed. Tell Russia leave Ukraine now or else via back-channels. Act like the fucking superpower we are. This is a win win scenario for the US. We could easily take out leaders of this quasi-commie dictator regimes in our backyard that are anti US. Black Ops hits. A fucking cruise missile. I don't give a shit. We are a superpower and need to act like it. What is the rest of the world going to do about it? Seriously. We either get and install a US friendly regime in much more domestically important countries than Ukraine, or Russia fucking leaves Ukraine. Either scenario works out for us, especially the first (sorry Ukraine). I'm above average intelligence. I am educated. I'm not a particularly creative person. I can say without question, in war game scenarios played out against supposably genius level ivy leaders, I absolutely kicked their asses day after day after day. To the point of embarrassing them, daily. I'm not THAT smart. But I was going up against preprogrammed people that could not use logic and reason, they could only use the variables that were on the table and when thrown any type of curveball could not react, AT ALL. They literally would cry foul and sometimes have a breakdown or outright quit. Those are the people behind the scenes making the decisions that are going to those who are technically in charge. We are been guided by fucking idiots. The same argument can be made of every war since WW2. No war since 1945 was relevant domestically, not even GWOT. This idea dovetails with the amazing newfound isolationism and fiscal conservatism which certain segments of the Republican party suddenly seem to have discovered. Few to no Republicans cared from 1945 to 2022 if a foreign war directly impacted the US mainland, and in the same period few to no Republicans ever saw a war they didn’t love if they got to wave the flag, watch spiffy US weapons in action, and reap defense contracts. Ron Paul was the only Republican who was a CONSISTENT and IMO sincere isolationist in the last 50 years. I was here during most of GWOT, and even after it was clear the whole fucking thing was a shitshow, few to no conservatives here became fiscally conservative isolationists - they were too busy applauding us blowing trillions of dollars to kill goatherders with AKs. And yes, I was one of them. Where I will say the current admin has clearly failed is for Biden (or anyone!) to make a strong case about what’s at stake. He has clearly been unable to provide the communication the US public deserves. That said, even if he did, half the US public would willingly believe 100% the opposite of whatever he said because the political polarization and stupidity is so bad right now. I believe it is fair to say that the most Trump-aligned elements of the Republican party have not responded to the situation in good faith as a matter of US national interests and still would not have done so even if Biden were capable of making a case. No.....Mark O Hatfield was also against the war in Vietnam. He was a great senator from Oregon and was a dedicated Goldwater Republican. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:52:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: The wild hyperbole confused me. Apologies, like Trump, too much time in Hollywood and hyperbole becomes a thing |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:07:29 PM EST
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:12:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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A lot of intercepts.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:27:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 15 sec video. Twitter comments are saying that’s Greece or somewhere else in the med based on architecture |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:34:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 15 sec video. that’s not in Ukraine |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:39:44 PM EST
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If UA hit Crimea tonight, they must have whacked some comm infrastructure because the silence is deafening. I hope I wake up to the smoldering remains of the Kerch that rivals the Frances Key bridge.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:48:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:51:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVvOpyIXUAAB8XM?format=jpg&name=medium What’s the approximate range? This would be perfect for using against planes and air defense sites. 20kg probably isn’t enough for some hardened targets but will make a mess of oil refineries 
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:54:35 PM EST
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Su-57s approach Kursk, threat of use of guided air missiles in the north
https://t.me/vanek_nikolaev/25996 3 Su-57 aircraft were operating probably a guided missile heading for Chuguev https://t.me/vanek_nikolaev/25997 the rest of the missiles fired at Kharkov, they were flying low all the planes flew away Akhtubinsk, say "palyanytsya" https://t.me/vanek_nikolaev/25998 |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 10:58:28 PM EST
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Posted: 8/24/2024 11:18:28 PM EST
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The Hezbollah terror group says it has fired more than 320 rockets at northern Israel in the past few hours, along with several explosive-laden drones. In a statement, Hezbollah claims to have targeted 11 military bases in northern Israel. Earlier, Hezbollah said it was beginning to respond to the killing of the terror group's military commander Fuad Shukr in an IDF strike last month. Hezbollah does not mention the IDF's preemptive attack this morning.
The Home Front Command has issued restrictions on civilians from the Tel Aviv area and northward. Educational activities and workplaces will be able to operate if an adequate shelter is nearby and can be reached in time. There will be restrictions on gatherings: Up to 30 people outdoors and 300 people indoors. Beaches are also closed near the border with Lebanon.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 11:26:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Should I continue, I should I shout my mouth. Weird grammar and sentence composition 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:21:05 AM EST
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The preemptive strike from Israel was a proper slap.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:53:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: This would be perfect for using against planes and air defense sites. 20kg probably isn’t enough for some hardened targets but will make a mess of oil refineries Yeah, so it seems. And if a target is one fire, might as well hit it again to make sure it stays on fire. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:22:47 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:34:02 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:48:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: It boggles.my mind how stupid the Israelis are in not helping Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: It boggles.my mind how stupid the Israelis are in not helping Ukraine. As I wrote earlier in the thread, 15% of Israel's population is Russian imports, a bunch of whom made up their ancestry just to get out of Russia but are still more than happy to sing the praises of Mother Russia. A number of them are "oligarch" level wealthy (because why keep the family in Russia where you'll all "commit suicide" if you piss off Putin). This is why Netanyahu is sucking Putin's cock instead of sending weapons to Ukraine. It's all about the shekels and the votes. And for whoever wrote "I don't believe it's that many" back then, fucking look it up. Originally Posted By lycurgus: Pray tell, what cards did I show? You phrased your post so crappily that the vast majority of readers would take it to mean that YOU, as in the person who posted that, are the one who believes Eastern Europe was forced to join NATO, rather than that "RFK and Gabbard believe that NATO expansion was forced onto eastern Europe." It's purely on you for writing it so confusingly, and for so little reason. You only had to move one word (and remove one other) to make it clear, instead of getting all defensive. Quoting what you typed: They both believe in NATO expansion that was forced upon E. Europe. "Tulsi and RFK both believe in NATO expansion! But I think it was FORCED upon E. Europe!" What you SHOULD have written: They both believe that NATO expansion "Tulsi and RFK are stupid fucks who believe E. Europe was FORCED AT GUNPOINT to join HATO/NAFO!" See the difference yet? Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: No, Ukraine doesn't have nearly the number of S-300 ammunition to do inaccurate ground attacks with the system like the Russians do. It is good for denying large sections of the airspace from Russian aircraft though, and it can engage cruise missiles. But like you said a Shahed is overkill. In this case, they have to work with what they have and play into the strengths of the system. It apparently has done some work against Russian aircraft and helicopters as well as cruise missiles and some drones. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPvI-z-XsAA-oAP?format=jpg&name=medium Looks like a Louis Vuitton bag. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:21:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
We need to switch a 'FB-35' upsized, longer range bomber version of the F35. Similar to the 'FB-22 Strike Raptor' that was proposed years ago. Use most of the core goodies of the F35 for economy of scale, but with much longer range and ability to carry JASSM/LRASM etc size weapons internally. Basically a F35 for the Pacific. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_FB-22 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:48:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: Ryan_Scott]
[#37]
Need to be two engine unless you want to develop new engines. Perhaps even if you do.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:16:26 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:19:43 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:59:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Of course it’s impossible to confirm the report. It’s worth bearing mind that 1) it could be disinfo or 2) it could be an honest take by someone, but not reflect actual policy. Multiple very clear trends point away from normalization. A)War crimes tribunals are GOING TO HAPPEN in Europe. The European bureaucracy is already gearing up and this is not going to go away. There is no way Russia is giving up anyone in power, but they may give up people at Solovyov’s level. And remember, there aren’t just war crimes trials pending, there is the legal issue of massive economic damage done to Europe from Russia breaking their gas contracts. The Euros aren’t going to give Russia a pass on that. B)Related, the seized Russian assets are already being used to fund long-term loans for Ukraine. After the war the assets are the “bird in hand” for reparations. That money is good as gone and Russia ain’t gonna like it. C)Whatever anyone in Washington may or may not want, Russia is on a trajectory towards extreme xenophobia and anti-westernism. (As in, do not be shocked at actual anti-semitic pogroms in Russia. When shit goes wrong, Russians blame the Jews.) Postwar is likely to be very messy in Russia. I can see a short term effort (<5 years) made by the Russians to play nice to get some relief, but the next 15 years are likely to track Weimar pretty damn well IMO. D)The whole theme has been actively pushed by Russian disinfo for the whole war. All the more reason to yell WTF to the idiots in DC. And all their actions for the past 2.5 years confirms that someone in power, who is influencing decisions, feels this way. Hopefully not everyone but apparently the majority of the committee running the US efforts in the war are pacifist cowards. I think we have disproven the desperately optimistic and groundless theory that DC is hatching some diabolical grand scheme to weaken Russia. Just the opposite is obvious!!! |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:03:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: NOT ONE MORE PENNY! WE CANNOT ALLOW A BANGALORE GAP WITH CHINA!!! BANGALORES ARE CRITICAL FOR DEFENDING THE BEACHES OF TAIWAN!!! Having trained on the Bangalore I certainly hope we never ever need to use one anywhere. I would be surprised if the US procures more in the future. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:06:06 AM EST
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Very interesting report by @dianabutsko about a Shkval battalion in Ukraine's 5th Assault Brigade composed of former convicts. Many of the members are from the same prison colony. They say they prefer this because they know each other well and gives them better unit cohesion and implicit communication. They say they were able to choose which unit they joined, and they say that they are treated like other soldiers.
 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:07:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Depends. If they were conscipts they’ll probably get off easy. If they were contract soldiers who bought themselves a cushy gig, maybe not. Maybe. But in Russia "getting off easy" probably means "welcome to your new battalion". |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:10:30 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:14:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Need to be two engine unless you want to develop new engines. Perhaps even if you do. They did develop a new F35 engine that promised 30% greater range / 20% more power. Since this seems ideal for the Pacific - it was not adopted  https://www.geaerospace.com/military-defense/engines/xa100 Not sure if that would work as a single engine for the FB35 / F35XL concept. F16XL - a similar concept - retained the single engine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-16XL 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:15:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: In fairness if shit goes down since Taiwan is an island, the Taiwanese would be desperate for any and all things. The KMT party keep trying to drag feet in their Congress but defense spending is going up again in Taiwan despite the KMT just nowhere near the 5% GDP team Trump wants. One thing that bothers me is Trump is talking workd peace in his speeches and while I agree Biden’s failures encouraged the axis I don’t think phone calls and domestic economic moves will dissuade the axis from war. But even if Taiwan goes to 5% will manufacturers finally deliver it along with 20 billion weapons overdue? Even though we’re starting to increase production I think the effort is still not to the level necessary. If the anti axis countries were fully 100% producing we wouldn’t even notice these bangalores. We’ve been in such a “peace at any cost” mentality for so long that playing catch-up means we have these debates, arguments and discussions instead of recognizing reality over a decade ago and cranking out war materials in Europe, US etc. a long time ago But we’re here now, gotta figure this out as it is. Trump claims he’ll bring peace to Ukraine sometime innNovember -January with phone calls. We’ll find out if that’s true if he’s elected. My worry is this never ending pursuit of peace from the anti axis countries only plays to our enemies. Of course I could be wrong I'm worried that Trump (hopefully) will inherit a total shitshow that is beyond fixing. Just domestically I think we are all fucked. Also Trump's "Trumpness" may have ben spent in the first term where he seems to have intimidated the opposition. Now they know Deep State is against him, the US is divided, and he will most likely get impeached after the State of the Union speech just for asking for audits. Worst case they hold out 4 years while helping the demo-commies undermine him and the pendulum swings back to the neo-commie/fascists and smooth sailing again. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:15:17 AM EST
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Interesting theory that France arrested Telegram dude (who randomly is crazy jacked) because of Telegrams being used extensively in Africa to stir up anti-french sentiments leading to the coups that ejected France from the region.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:17:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: What’s the approximate range? This would be perfect for using against planes and air defense sites. 20kg probably isn’t enough for some hardened targets but will make a mess of oil refineries Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVvOpyIXUAAB8XM?format=jpg&name=medium What’s the approximate range? This would be perfect for using against planes and air defense sites. 20kg probably isn’t enough for some hardened targets but will make a mess of oil refineries 300km was the quoted range. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:18:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Lots of things need to happen, but Trump is not the man to be doing it. He’s already picked a Putin-puffing imbecile for VP, Kennedy was earlier approached to be his VP and now head of CIA. Any bets on the House of Reps clown posse getting some choice cabinet roles? Who is he listening to and why? Allegedly Carlson is one of them, which should tell you something. I don’t expect Trump to be a policy expert in all areas, but I do expect him to be able hire people who are and then listen to them, which Trump failed to do as President and has thus far failed to do as a candidate. Comparing Trump’s previous and ongoing missteps to a disastrous foreign policy by Biden doesn’t make Trump look better, it makes him look equally inept. Between Trump's imbeciles and the current crop of hyper competent "adults in the room" I'll take Trump. But don't worry, the commies WILL win, it's inevitable and the chances of an upstart like Trump delaying the revolution ever again will be zero. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 6:22:23 AM EST
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I've noticed this Twitter account before for obvious reasons. If you're a Spanish speaker or don't mind doing the translating, it's got great content. Again, beyond the obvious.
Russian Artillery mission in the defense is to defeat the enemy in the approach march, on the line of deployment or in the attack staging area. UKR has been patiently destroying Russian artillery for weeks and months. They know too well Russian Doctrine.  1/1. The adaptive Russian army has dedicated itself for 5 months to sowing BMPs until reaching the Marinka-Kostiantinyvka-Vuhledar road, which has not been used for more than 1 year but which is a stripe in the terrain. All for Propaganda. 
4. Dugin, desperate, calling for heads: "The Tsar is obliged to feed the people with executions of traitorous boyars (...) This is part of his charismatic sovereignty. After all, it is the most important element of legitimacy."
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