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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:20:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:24:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:24:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXRifrOXAAAWMYa?format=jpg&name=900x900 Reuters: Zelenskyy and Xi Jinping may meet as early as in October

This was stated by former Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Oleksandr Chalyy at the opening of the main Chinese military forum "Xiangshan".

According to him, diplomatic relations between Kyiv and Beijing have improved, so direct talks between the leaders are possible.

Although China maintains close ties with Moscow, it positions itself as a neutral party in Russia's war against Ukraine.
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I don't see the point in this meeting, at all.


CMOS
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:26:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~1 min video in tweet. "So I think it goes like this: Trump sits down, says to the Russians, to the Ukrainians, to the Europeans, you guys need to figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like. And it will probably look roughly the same as the current dividing line between Russia and Ukraine. It will become like a demilitarized zone. It will be strongly fortified so that the Russians do not invade again. Ukraine retains its independent sovereignty. Russia receives a guarantee of neutrality from Ukraine, it does not join NATO, it does not join any allied institutions." — J.D. Vance
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Plausible. But sounds like a very shitty deal for Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:36:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:38:11 AM EDT
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~1 min video.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:45:26 AM EDT
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~1 min video.
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Spectacular secondaries!



CMOS
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:47:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXQfYOFWsAAmHsD?format=jpg&name=medium Not all members of the SS and NSDAP were criminals and Nazis, said leader of the German far-right

Tino Hrupalla, co-chairman of the far-right Alternative for Germany party, said this during a talk show on the ZDF television channel. He was asked what he thought about the words of fellow party member Maximilian Krah. The latter recently told an Italian newspaper that the SS in general was not a criminal organization.

"Of course the SS was a criminal organization, there is no discussion about that. But not everyone who was a member of the SS committed crimes. In the last years of the war, the SS and Waffen-SS recruited children who did not commit war crimes.  And it can also hardly be said that everyone who was in the NSDAP was a Nazi," Hrupalla said.

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Technically correct but we all know historical nuance is not a thing for politicians.  We wouldnt call Larry Thorne a war criminal...
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:50:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
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This shit is beyond stupid.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:51:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~1 min video in tweet. "So I think it goes like this: Trump sits down, says to the Russians, to the Ukrainians, to the Europeans, you guys need to figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like. And it will probably look roughly the same as the current dividing line between Russia and Ukraine. It will become like a demilitarized zone. It will be strongly fortified so that the Russians do not invade again. Ukraine retains its independent sovereignty. Russia receives a guarantee of neutrality from Ukraine, it does not join NATO, it does not join any allied institutions." — J.D. Vance
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How on earth could Putin be induced to accept that??? Notice he didn't say "Russia wants this war to end." Russia can still accomplish their goals with continued military action. Ukraine can't. So what huge incentives could possibly be offered to Russia to take the arrangement he describes? Withdrawal of NATO support for the Baltics (which he already asked for prior to invading in 2022)?

Knowing that Russia's starting point to even negotiate is unilateral Ukrainian withdrawal to the administrative borders of the annexed territories, how could Ukraine be induced to accept that???

I expect Harris & Walz to make statements that are completely untethered from the real world, but Vance? WTF? That was very unserious.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:52:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:52:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

As a Trump fan, I was very disappointed by Trump's comments on Ukraine during the debate.

I had assumed Trump was keeping his negotiating options open with Russia and Ukraine and thus limiting his specific comments. But he sounded weak especially his concerns over nuclear war. Well, we should all be concerned over a nuclear war but expressing it so openly tells Russia their saber rattling is working on Trump too, not just Xiden. Over all Trump had a very weak night.
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As I wrote before the debate all the “no more wars” and “peace and prosperity” talk amongst conservatives sounds great except it neglects the main point I always make which is the enemy gets a vote. It’s narcissism to think we can control the world and force it or trick it or buy it off to be peaceful
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:55:42 AM EDT
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How many tires are burning?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:58:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:03:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~1 min video in tweet. "So I think it goes like this: Trump sits down, says to the Russians, to the Ukrainians, to the Europeans, you guys need to figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like. And it will probably look roughly the same as the current dividing line between Russia and Ukraine. It will become like a demilitarized zone. It will be strongly fortified so that the Russians do not invade again. Ukraine retains its independent sovereignty. Russia receives a guarantee of neutrality from Ukraine, it does not join NATO, it does not join any allied institutions." — J.D. Vance
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I'm pretty sure that is what russia is hoping for. It gives russia all of what they want,....for now,....again. As far as I can tell this is basically one step short of telling Ukraine surrender.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:06:14 AM EDT
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This was mentioned in a post last night, more details came out this morning:

Twitter thread about IDF attack/raid on Syria last week.  First tweet below, thread in quote box:

Last Thursday night, around 11:00, residents of western and central Syria heard the sounds of a large number of huge explosions in the direction of the Masyaf area near the Syrian-Lebanese border. These explosions were not the only thing that happened in Masyaf this evening.

Α security source confirmed to me that last Thursday evening, special forces from the |#IDF carried out a special operation against a military facility belonging to the IRGC, six kilometers southwest of the Syrian city of Masyaf.

The operation began with an air strike targeting a number of roads leading to the military facility, in addition to a headquarters affiliated with the Syrian military security and the facility’s security points. Then, Israeli military helicopters carrying Israeli special forces moved towards the facility, supported by combat helicopters and drones, to prevent any forces from the Assad regime from reaching the area.

The operation lasted for about an hour, during which the Israeli special forces were able to enter the facility, withdraw important equipment and documents, mine the facility from the inside, then destroy it and withdraw under air cover through fire belts surrounding the site, to prevent any air movements by Assad's warplanes.

The targeted facility is directly affiliated with the IRGC and is responsible for developing ballistic missiles and drones and provides logistical support to the Hezbollah militia in #Lebanon. The facility has been operating for more than ten years and was subjected to Israeli air strikes last year.

This special operation in Syria is considered an important development in the recently escalating scene in the Middle East. It is certain that what happened in Masyaf will become more clear in detail as the days pass and may be an indication of the imminence of a new escalation, whether on the Syrian or Lebanese arena.
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In a rare admission, the IDF says it carried out two drone strikes in southern Syria today, targeting a Hezbollah operative and another Iran-linked terrorist.

The military says the first strike, in the Quneitra area killed Ahmed al-Jaber, a member of Hezbollah's so-called Golan File unit.

Another strike, in the al-Rafid area, targeted a "terrorist who advanced terror acts against the State of Israel, and acted with the cooperation and direction of Iran." the IDF says.

Meanwhile, the military says several explosive-laden drones were launched from Lebanon at northern Israel earlier today, impacting near the Keren Naftali area.

Earlier today, some 15 rockets were fired from Lebanon at the Western Galilee.

There were no injuries in the attacks.
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After UNRWA said six staffers were killed in an IDF strike yesterday on a school in the central Gaza Strip, the military names nine Hamas operatives killed in the attack, including some who were also employed by the UN Palestinian refugee agency.

The IDF had said yesterday that it struck a Hamas command room in the Al-Jaouni School in Nuseirat, and took steps to mitigate civilian harm. Hospital officials in Gaza reported 14 dead, and UNRWA later said six were members of the agency.

The military says that "upon receiving the allegation that local Palestinian workers of the UNRWA agency were killed in the strike, the IDF contacted the agency yesterday for details and names in order to examine the allegation in depth and as of this writing  it has not yet been answered despite repeated requests."

So far, the IDF says it has identified nine Hamas operatives killed in the strike, three of whom were also UNRWA staffers.

They are named by the IDF as Ayser Qardaya, a member of Hamas's internal security force; Muhammad Adnan Abu Zaid, a members of Hamas's military wing who launched mortars at troops, and a UNRWA staffer; Bassem Majed Shahin, the commander of a Hamas military wing cell, who participated in the October 7 onslaught; Omar al-Judaili, a member of Hamas's military wing and internal security force; Akram Saber al-Ghalidi, a member of Hamas's military wing and internal security force; Muhammad Issa Abu al-Amir, a member of Hamas's military wing who participated in the October 7 onslaught; Sharif Salam, a member of Hamas's military wing; Yasser Ibrahim Abu Sharar, a member of Hamas's military wing and emergency committee in Nuseirat, as well as a UNRWA staffer; and Iyad Matar, a member of Hamas's military wing and a UNRWA staffer.
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:12:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMOS:



I don't see the point in this meeting, at all.


CMOS
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Originally Posted By CMOS:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXRifrOXAAAWMYa?format=jpg&name=900x900 Reuters: Zelenskyy and Xi Jinping may meet as early as in October

This was stated by former Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Oleksandr Chalyy at the opening of the main Chinese military forum "Xiangshan".

According to him, diplomatic relations between Kyiv and Beijing have improved, so direct talks between the leaders are possible.

Although China maintains close ties with Moscow, it positions itself as a neutral party in Russia's war against Ukraine.



I don't see the point in this meeting, at all.


CMOS
Ukraine is shipping grain to China at this very moment, there must be some diplomatic back and forth going on regarding Chinese support for Russia.  

I bet Xi would love to steal a march on Washington and be the 800lb gorilla ending a major war in Europe that seems to be beyond America's ability/willingness/desire to force to a conclusion while securing long term deals for food imports and gaining another client state.  Russia has become dependent enough on China that cutting off trade would cause them to lose the war disastrously so now he can twist their arm as far as he wants to, while Ukraine is obviously very nervous about the currently rudderless American government and the prospect of Pax Trump slamming down on them.  Xi could pry lots of favors out of the EU as well while drafting the details of the peace.

Gaining some measure of control over both Ukrainian and Russian grain exports would be an enormous lever for China.  Xi might gain the power of a veto over a third of all global wheat exports, use that as carrot and stick to bend much of Africa and the Middle East to his will.  Ditto European energy supplies.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:16:30 AM EDT
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Russian hacker group

We also unleashed the power of our DDoS missiles on Bandera sites😈

❌Unified center for appeals from citizens of the city of Odessa
check-host.net/check-report/1e2dc20bk7cd

❌Odessagaz
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❌Authorization on the heat supply portal of the city of Odessa
check-host.net/check-report/1e2dca23kf7a

❌Odessa Regional Energy Supply Company
check-host.net/check-report/1e2dce9ak908

❌Website of the mayor of Odessa Gennady Trukhanov
check-host.net/check-report/1e2dd13dk826

❌Website "Socially active citizen"
check-host.net/check-report/1e2dda5fk96a

#OP404

For Russia!🇷🇺
For Kursk! ❤️
For Belgorod!❤️
For Donbass!❤️


https://t.me/noname05716/9164


Weirdly, they go after Taiwan a lot.


Taiwan sites feel bad after our attacks😈

❌Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport
check-host.net/check-report/1e2ec032k711

❌Mega Financial Holdings
check-host.net/check-report/1e2ec06ck76c


https://t.me/noname05716/9170

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:23:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
This was mentioned in a post last night, more details came out this morning:

Twitter thread about IDF attack/raid on Syria last week.  First tweet below, thread in quote box:






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Originally Posted By michigan66:
This was mentioned in a post last night, more details came out this morning:

Twitter thread about IDF attack/raid on Syria last week.  First tweet below, thread in quote box:

Last Thursday night, around 11:00, residents of western and central Syria heard the sounds of a large number of huge explosions in the direction of the Masyaf area near the Syrian-Lebanese border. These explosions were not the only thing that happened in Masyaf this evening.

Α security source confirmed to me that last Thursday evening, special forces from the |#IDF carried out a special operation against a military facility belonging to the IRGC, six kilometers southwest of the Syrian city of Masyaf.

The operation began with an air strike targeting a number of roads leading to the military facility, in addition to a headquarters affiliated with the Syrian military security and the facility’s security points. Then, Israeli military helicopters carrying Israeli special forces moved towards the facility, supported by combat helicopters and drones, to prevent any forces from the Assad regime from reaching the area.

The operation lasted for about an hour, during which the Israeli special forces were able to enter the facility, withdraw important equipment and documents, mine the facility from the inside, then destroy it and withdraw under air cover through fire belts surrounding the site, to prevent any air movements by Assad's warplanes.

The targeted facility is directly affiliated with the IRGC and is responsible for developing ballistic missiles and drones and provides logistical support to the Hezbollah militia in #Lebanon. The facility has been operating for more than ten years and was subjected to Israeli air strikes last year.

This special operation in Syria is considered an important development in the recently escalating scene in the Middle East. It is certain that what happened in Masyaf will become more clear in detail as the days pass and may be an indication of the imminence of a new escalation, whether on the Syrian or Lebanese arena.



In a rare admission, the IDF says it carried out two drone strikes in southern Syria today, targeting a Hezbollah operative and another Iran-linked terrorist.

The military says the first strike, in the Quneitra area killed Ahmed al-Jaber, a member of Hezbollah's so-called Golan File unit.

Another strike, in the al-Rafid area, targeted a "terrorist who advanced terror acts against the State of Israel, and acted with the cooperation and direction of Iran." the IDF says.

Meanwhile, the military says several explosive-laden drones were launched from Lebanon at northern Israel earlier today, impacting near the Keren Naftali area.

Earlier today, some 15 rockets were fired from Lebanon at the Western Galilee.

There were no injuries in the attacks.


After UNRWA said six staffers were killed in an IDF strike yesterday on a school in the central Gaza Strip, the military names nine Hamas operatives killed in the attack, including some who were also employed by the UN Palestinian refugee agency.

The IDF had said yesterday that it struck a Hamas command room in the Al-Jaouni School in Nuseirat, and took steps to mitigate civilian harm. Hospital officials in Gaza reported 14 dead, and UNRWA later said six were members of the agency.

The military says that "upon receiving the allegation that local Palestinian workers of the UNRWA agency were killed in the strike, the IDF contacted the agency yesterday for details and names in order to examine the allegation in depth and as of this writing  it has not yet been answered despite repeated requests."

So far, the IDF says it has identified nine Hamas operatives killed in the strike, three of whom were also UNRWA staffers.

They are named by the IDF as Ayser Qardaya, a member of Hamas's internal security force; Muhammad Adnan Abu Zaid, a members of Hamas's military wing who launched mortars at troops, and a UNRWA staffer; Bassem Majed Shahin, the commander of a Hamas military wing cell, who participated in the October 7 onslaught; Omar al-Judaili, a member of Hamas's military wing and internal security force; Akram Saber al-Ghalidi, a member of Hamas's military wing and internal security force; Muhammad Issa Abu al-Amir, a member of Hamas's military wing who participated in the October 7 onslaught; Sharif Salam, a member of Hamas's military wing; Yasser Ibrahim Abu Sharar, a member of Hamas's military wing and emergency committee in Nuseirat, as well as a UNRWA staffer; and Iyad Matar, a member of Hamas's military wing and a UNRWA staffer.


UNRWA is a terror org.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:26:08 AM EDT
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The big loophole allowing Russia to access US chips? China

“You can’t trust them,” one lawmaker admonished chipmaker execs.



Russia is evading sanctions to acquire U.S.-made semiconductors and weapons components for use in Ukraine—largely through China, according to a new Senate report that led lawmakers to grill chip-making executives on Tuesday.

“Manufacturers are objectively and consciously failing to prevent Russia from benefiting from the use of their technology,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said at a hearing of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

After Russian forces moved more heavily into Ukraine in 2022, the United States placed strict controls on technology transfers to Russia, an attempt to hobble its arms industry.  But that technology is still making its way into weapons such as the Kh-101 cruise missile that struck a children’s hospital in Kyiv on July 8, killing two and injuring more than 50.

The report said U.S. chip companies—such as AMD, Texas Instruments, Intel, Analog Devices—have big gaps in their internal auditing, even if they do appear to be in compliance with current laws and export controls. It also said the companies are also slow—at best—to respond to requests from lawmakers, non-governmental organizations, and journalists asking the companies to trace the path from legal sale to Russian missiles.

“Intel, Texas Instruments, AMD, and Analog Devices have all received trace requests from external groups showing that their semiconductors have been found in Russian weapon systems. Responses from Intel, Texas Instruments, and Analog Devices to these trace requests, which seek to help understand how Russia is continuing its war efforts in Ukraine, have been delayed, nonresponsive, or nonexistent,” the report says.

In their testimony, the company officials all said that they were acting within the confines of the law and that they make a lot of chips and parts so keeping track of where they go after sale is difficult. Tiffany Scurry, a vice president and chief compliance officer at AMD, said that the chips they had seen in Russian weapons were “typically between five and 15 years old, sometimes more than 20 years old. We have not yet seen a part…recovered that was post-sanctioned.”

Shannon Thompson, vice president and assistant general counsel at Texas Instruments, said “Chips are often sold and resold multiple times. Bad actors can take basic chips from everyday products and use them in military applications. The same inexpensive chip that helps conduct battery power and electric toothbrushes can be used in the same way in drones or UAVs.”

But the company officials also acknowledged that they had only recently made contact with representatives from Conflict Armament Research, the Royal United Services Institute, and other groups that monitor illicit tech transfers into Russia, so they did not necessarily have a full picture of what products were making their way into Russian weapons.

Said Blumenthal: “It’s a war that's going on for two years, export sanctions for two years. You told this committee just minutes ago that you believe that these computer chips are all old, but your company hasn't sent a team there to inspect them. You haven't taken steps to verify whether that information is correct. That's just your opinion or belief.”

A larger potential obstacle to tackling illicit chip transfers to Russia, even if these companies committed to more internal audits and worked more proactively with outside monitoring groups and agencies, the companies’ ongoing business with China suggests that the transfers would continue anyway.

According to the Senate report: “Exports to Hong Kong and China from the four companies have decreased year-to-year from 2021 to 2023, but reports regarding Russia’s ability to evade U.S. sanctions have repeatedly highlighted Hong Kong and China as the two largest continuing sources of semiconductors to Russia.”

Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kansas., put the problem to the company executives directly. “Certainly, it appears that China is intimately involved in this process,” Marshall said. “I assume that every one of you still sells chips to China?”

The officials said they did. More than one said that they also had manufacturing agreements with Chinese companies, all perfectly legal under current U.S. law.

“You can’t trust them,” said Marshall.

https://www.defenseone.com/business/2024/09/big-loophole-allowing-russia-access-us-chips-china/399455/

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:28:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
This was mentioned in a post last night, more details came out this morning:

Twitter thread about IDF attack/raid on Syria last week.  First tweet below, thread in quote box:






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Three sources with knowledge of the operation confirmed to Axios that the IDF top elite unit Sayeret Matkal conducted a raid and destroyed the facility.
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/12/israel-syria-raid

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:33:11 AM EDT
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see what happens when you let them fly drones in your airspace  
Escalation management is going to lead to a MUCH larger conflict now.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:34:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~1 min video in tweet. "So I think it goes like this: Trump sits down, says to the Russians, to the Ukrainians, to the Europeans, you guys need to figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like. And it will probably look roughly the same as the current dividing line between Russia and Ukraine. It will become like a demilitarized zone. It will be strongly fortified so that the Russians do not invade again. Ukraine retains its independent sovereignty. Russia receives a guarantee of neutrality from Ukraine, it does not join NATO, it does not join any allied institutions." — J.D. Vance
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This is about as unambiguous as a statement can be.

Essentially, JD is stating that Russia's conditions for a cease fire will be accepted and promoted by a Trump administration.

NATO membership is the ONLY thing that will guarantee that Russia won't initiate SMO 2.0 in several years after it re-arms and lays in more offensive weaponry.

Let's not pretend/hope/pray Trump's actions will be anything different than this.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:42:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
The big loophole allowing Russia to access US chips? China

“You can’t trust them,” one lawmaker admonished chipmaker execs.



Russia is evading sanctions to acquire U.S.-made semiconductors and weapons components for use in Ukraine—largely through China, according to a new Senate report that led lawmakers to grill chip-making executives on Tuesday.

“Manufacturers are objectively and consciously failing to prevent Russia from benefiting from the use of their technology,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said at a hearing of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

After Russian forces moved more heavily into Ukraine in 2022, the United States placed strict controls on technology transfers to Russia, an attempt to hobble its arms industry.  But that technology is still making its way into weapons such as the Kh-101 cruise missile that struck a children’s hospital in Kyiv on July 8, killing two and injuring more than 50.

The report said U.S. chip companies—such as AMD, Texas Instruments, Intel, Analog Devices—have big gaps in their internal auditing, even if they do appear to be in compliance with current laws and export controls. It also said the companies are also slow—at best—to respond to requests from lawmakers, non-governmental organizations, and journalists asking the companies to trace the path from legal sale to Russian missiles.

“Intel, Texas Instruments, AMD, and Analog Devices have all received trace requests from external groups showing that their semiconductors have been found in Russian weapon systems. Responses from Intel, Texas Instruments, and Analog Devices to these trace requests, which seek to help understand how Russia is continuing its war efforts in Ukraine, have been delayed, nonresponsive, or nonexistent,” the report says.

In their testimony, the company officials all said that they were acting within the confines of the law and that they make a lot of chips and parts so keeping track of where they go after sale is difficult. Tiffany Scurry, a vice president and chief compliance officer at AMD, said that the chips they had seen in Russian weapons were “typically between five and 15 years old, sometimes more than 20 years old. We have not yet seen a part…recovered that was post-sanctioned.”

Shannon Thompson, vice president and assistant general counsel at Texas Instruments, said “Chips are often sold and resold multiple times. Bad actors can take basic chips from everyday products and use them in military applications. The same inexpensive chip that helps conduct battery power and electric toothbrushes can be used in the same way in drones or UAVs.”

But the company officials also acknowledged that they had only recently made contact with representatives from Conflict Armament Research, the Royal United Services Institute, and other groups that monitor illicit tech transfers into Russia, so they did not necessarily have a full picture of what products were making their way into Russian weapons.

Said Blumenthal: “It’s a war that's going on for two years, export sanctions for two years. You told this committee just minutes ago that you believe that these computer chips are all old, but your company hasn't sent a team there to inspect them. You haven't taken steps to verify whether that information is correct. That's just your opinion or belief.”

A larger potential obstacle to tackling illicit chip transfers to Russia, even if these companies committed to more internal audits and worked more proactively with outside monitoring groups and agencies, the companies’ ongoing business with China suggests that the transfers would continue anyway.

According to the Senate report: “Exports to Hong Kong and China from the four companies have decreased year-to-year from 2021 to 2023, but reports regarding Russia’s ability to evade U.S. sanctions have repeatedly highlighted Hong Kong and China as the two largest continuing sources of semiconductors to Russia.”

Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kansas., put the problem to the company executives directly. “Certainly, it appears that China is intimately involved in this process,” Marshall said. “I assume that every one of you still sells chips to China?”

The officials said they did. More than one said that they also had manufacturing agreements with Chinese companies, all perfectly legal under current U.S. law.

“You can’t trust them,” said Marshall.

https://www.defenseone.com/business/2024/09/big-loophole-allowing-russia-access-us-chips-china/399455/

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You can bet that these "laws" will not be fixed, due to plentiful "lobbying" by Chinese actors.


CMOS
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:50:15 AM EDT
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How on earth could Putin be induced to accept that??? Notice he didn't say "Russia wants this war to end." Russia can still accomplish their goals with continued military action. Ukraine can't. So what huge incentives could possibly be offered to Russia to take the arrangement he describes? Withdrawal of NATO support for the Baltics (which he already asked for prior to invading in 2022)?

Knowing that Russia's starting point to even negotiate is unilateral Ukrainian withdrawal to the administrative borders of the annexed territories, how could Ukraine be induced to accept that???

I expect Harris & Walz to make statements that are completely untethered from the real world, but Vance? WTF? That was very unserious.
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Trump and Vance have done everything short of shouting from a bullhorn that their concern for Ukraine's well being is none of their concern.

For the life of me, why do some here in this thread continue to believe that Trump is playing some 3-D chess strategy.

Their position has been crystal clear and hasn't changed; and it won't.

How many will feign shock and surprise when they state what is the obvious next time?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:59:44 AM EDT
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This is about as unambiguous as a statement can be.

Essentially, JD is stating that Russia's conditions for a cease fire will be accepted and promoted by a Trump administration.

NATO membership is the ONLY thing that will guarantee that Russia won't initiate SMO 2.0 in several years after it re-arms and lays in more offensive weaponry.

Let's not pretend/hope/pray Trump's actions will be anything different than this.
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If NATO can't protect post-war Ukraine then China can by twisting Russia's testicles, which they are currently getting a vice-like grip on.  They must be an enormous percentage of Russian income now, holding numerous resource chokepoints like weapons systems chips, electrical grid parts, railway maintenance parts, able to block North Korean ammo, and they're getting entrenched in Iran and already 80% done flipping the 'stans.  If Xi decides that Russia loses the war, they flip a switch and Russia loses the war.

China has gained a decisive hold on their "allies" and can now dictate the outcome of the war from that side, after the US/NATO failed to dictate the outcome from their side.  

Reminds me of WWI, by 1916 the British government was admitting to itself that the US could end the war with a snap of the fingers by cutting off loans and trade.  Fortunately for Britain the US barely even noticed and naively declined to shake them down.

Does Xi seem like the kind of guy to fall for brotherly honor propaganda, or the kind of guy to screw anybody for a dime?  And in this case the dime is the world's single greatest crossroads of energy and food exports.
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Are we getting mushroom flork?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:07:35 PM EDT
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Are we getting mushroom flork?
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Ukraine is shipping grain to China at this very moment, there must be some diplomatic back and forth going on regarding Chinese support for Russia.  

I bet Xi would love to steal a march on Washington and be the 800lb gorilla ending a major war in Europe that seems to be beyond America's ability/willingness/desire to force to a conclusion while securing long term deals for food imports and gaining another client state.  Russia has become dependent enough on China that cutting off trade would cause them to lose the war disastrously so now he can twist their arm as far as he wants to, while Ukraine is obviously very nervous about the currently rudderless American government and the prospect of Pax Trump slamming down on them.  Xi could pry lots of favors out of the EU as well while drafting the details of the peace.

Gaining some measure of control over both Ukrainian and Russian grain exports would be an enormous lever for China.  Xi might gain the power of a veto over a third of all global wheat exports, use that as carrot and stick to bend much of Africa and the Middle East to his will.  Ditto European energy supplies.
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Don’t forget the US is still subsidizing Ukraine farmers. This allows them to sell grain to China cheap.  So the US is not only paying Ukraine farmers, we are allowing China to buy grain cheap which takes market share away from US farmers.  A triple fucking to Americans!
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:39:33 PM EDT
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I don't see the point in this meeting, at all.


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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXRifrOXAAAWMYa?format=jpg&name=900x900 Reuters: Zelenskyy and Xi Jinping may meet as early as in October

This was stated by former Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Oleksandr Chalyy at the opening of the main Chinese military forum "Xiangshan".

According to him, diplomatic relations between Kyiv and Beijing have improved, so direct talks between the leaders are possible.

Although China maintains close ties with Moscow, it positions itself as a neutral party in Russia's war against Ukraine.



I don't see the point in this meeting, at all.


CMOS

It's smart by Z-man.  He is making an effort to improve relations and if they fafo then see what happened with macron and Putin.

Nobody saw the point of why macron met with Putin but there is a whole lot of French ordinance now on Ukrainian battlefield.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:43:14 PM EDT
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I expect Harris & Walz to make statements that are completely untethered from the real world, but Vance? WTF? That was very unserious.
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Some of you still cease to amaze me.  Those two have been telegraphing for damn near a year they will throw Ukraine under the bus if they get elected and you will be surprised when it happens.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:50:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Ukraine is shipping grain to China at this very moment, there must be some diplomatic back and forth going on regarding Chinese support for Russia.  

I bet Xi would love to steal a march on Washington and be the 800lb gorilla ending a major war in Europe that seems to be beyond America's ability/willingness/desire to force to a conclusion while securing long term deals for food imports and gaining another client state.  Russia has become dependent enough on China that cutting off trade would cause them to lose the war disastrously so now he can twist their arm as far as he wants to, while Ukraine is obviously very nervous about the currently rudderless American government and the prospect of Pax Trump slamming down on them.  Xi could pry lots of favors out of the EU as well while drafting the details of the peace.

Gaining some measure of control over both Ukrainian and Russian grain exports would be an enormous lever for China.  Xi might gain the power of a veto over a third of all global wheat exports, use that as carrot and stick to bend much of Africa and the Middle East to his will.  Ditto European energy supplies.
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So your rationale is that Ukraine will trade Europe for china even after all the cash, materials and intelligence they have given Ukraine.

Oh and Ukraine wants to be in NATO and the EU.......
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:50:38 PM EDT
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Biden may let British Storm Shadow missiles strike inside Russia
Keir Starmer flies to US as President Zelensky lays out his ‘victory plan’




The United States may allow Ukraine to use British and French missiles but not its own longer-range weapons inside Russia, according to two sources familiar with discussions that have taken place.

President Biden may decide to give the green light to President Zelensky to use Storm Shadow missiles and their French equivalent, Scalp missiles, to strike targets in Russian territory on the ground that the UK and France support such a move, they said.

However, the US would not allow Ukraine to fire its longest-range version of ATACMS — a ballistic missile — at targets across the border, hoping to prevent a further escalation of the conflict.

The two sources, from the governments of different nations, spoke on condition of anonymity and said they believed that the proposed policy was likely to be adopted after meetings on Kyiv on Wednesday between Zelensky, Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, and David Lammy, the British foreign secretary. One of the sources said they expected the option to be discussed between Sir Keir Starmer, the prime minister, and Biden in Washington on Friday, although they downplayed suggestions of a sudden announcement on the matter.

Biden is expected to discuss the issue with other European leaders to sound them out on any change in policy. A British defence source said that the UK did not need the support of other countries in Nato to go ahead.

Both the UK and France are believed to support removing the restrictions on Ukraine’s use of its long-range weapons, but so far the Americans have blocked the change for fear of escalation. The Iranian delivery of more than 200 Fath-360 missiles to Russia last Wednesday is believed to have played a part in persuading some senior figures in the West that the policy needs to be changed urgently.

Ben Barry, a senior fellow for land warfare at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said he would not be surprised if Biden took a “half-way house” position because “France and Britain would be taking the risk on behalf of Ukraine and Ukraine’s friends”.

He said: “It’s a half-way house, it’s less than Ukraine has asked for but it’s better than nothing from Ukraine’s point of view. It increases the risk of escalation against Britain and France but not the US.”

In recent months Britain has supplied Ukraine with Storm Shadow missiles, which have a range of about 155 miles, and the US has provided the longest-range version of ATACMS, which can travel 190 miles.

Ukraine wants long-range weapons to use inside Russia so it can destroy air bases, ammunition depots and other military targets threatening its territory. Its military leaders want to be able to take out Russian bomber fleets, which are dropping air-launched glide bombs — cheap refurbished bombs with guide systems — on Ukrainian targets, to devastating effect. Russia can to launch the bombs dozens of miles behind the front lines.

Barry said that the Storm Shadow was most useful against hard targets such as bunkers and aircraft shelters. “It’s not particularly useful against targets in the open.”

The American missiles are more capable against a range of battlefield targets. “They have a warhead that is designed to explode on the surface, so they are very good for targets like artillery batteries, divisional headquarters, ammunition dumps and anti-aircraft missiles sites. It’s not so useful against the targets Storm Shadow is useful for,” Barry said.

“It’s rather like comparing a knife and fork, you can do a bit with either but you are better off with using both of them together.”

Starmer will fly to Washington on Friday to meet Biden there before meetings at the UN headquarters in New York on 22 and 23 September. Zelensky has said that he will present his “victory plan”, which is reliant upon US support, during the meetings.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/keir-starmer-joe-biden-storm-shadow-missiles-jmq87805n

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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:10:40 PM EDT
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Plausible. But sounds like a very shitty deal for Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~1 min video in tweet. "So I think it goes like this: Trump sits down, says to the Russians, to the Ukrainians, to the Europeans, you guys need to figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like. And it will probably look roughly the same as the current dividing line between Russia and Ukraine. It will become like a demilitarized zone. It will be strongly fortified so that the Russians do not invade again. Ukraine retains its independent sovereignty. Russia receives a guarantee of neutrality from Ukraine, it does not join NATO, it does not join any allied institutions." — J.D. Vance

Plausible. But sounds like a very shitty deal for Ukraine.


I doubt Ukraine would agree to such a terrible outcome. Not unless they get nukes to guarantee their future safety.

We all know any agreement with Russia is not worth the paper it is written on.

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:24:57 PM EDT
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In the Kupyansk sector, before surrendering, a Russian infantryman decided to put a grenade under himself to blow himself and our soldiers up, but such tricks have long been known to our guys
https://twitter.com/small10space/status/1834274839634284796


Episodes of repulsing a Russian massive assault with the support of armored vehicles (the enemy used 46 vehicles) in the Mariinka sector, Donetsk region
Video from the soldiers of the 46th separate airmobile brigade

https://twitter.com/small10space/status/1834267871955821039

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Link to Nikkei article — Analysis: China moves to play 'Okinawa card' over Japan's Taiwan stance
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ETA — video of the evil midget saying it in tweet below (3 min clip).
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:43:00 PM EDT
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Link to Nikkei article — Analysis: China moves to play 'Okinawa card' over Japan's Taiwan stance
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paywall
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:51:37 PM EDT
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Here you go.
https://archive.ph/Z921k
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:52:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:54:24 PM EDT
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Here you go.
https://archive.ph/Z921k
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:

paywall


Here you go.
https://archive.ph/Z921k

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:04:33 PM EDT
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Just putting this here for those reading the thread from Rio Linda can see it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:11:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:14:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
If NATO can't protect post-war Ukraine then China can by twisting Russia's testicles, which they are currently getting a vice-like grip on.  They must be an enormous percentage of Russian income now, holding numerous resource chokepoints like weapons systems chips, electrical grid parts, railway maintenance parts, able to block North Korean ammo, and they're getting entrenched in Iran and already 80% done flipping the 'stans.  If Xi decides that Russia loses the war, they flip a switch and Russia loses the war.

China has gained a decisive hold on their "allies" and can now dictate the outcome of the war from that side, after the US/NATO failed to dictate the outcome from their side.  

Reminds me of WWI, by 1916 the British government was admitting to itself that the US could end the war with a snap of the fingers by cutting off loans and trade.  Fortunately for Britain the US barely even noticed and naively declined to shake them down.

Does Xi seem like the kind of guy to fall for brotherly honor propaganda, or the kind of guy to screw anybody for a dime?  And in this case the dime is the world's single greatest crossroads of energy and food exports.
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China has shown no effort at all to ameliorate this situation. They are the benefactor of seeing this continue.

They are getting gas from Russia under the greatest conditions, along with huge sales of military and technology products.

How would they improve their situation by "twisting Russia's testicles"?

They hold sway over N. Korea, yet the Nork's are sending ballistic missiles and artillery shells galore.

I see no scenario where China would act as you describe.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:19:30 PM EDT
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Zelenskyy accuses Brazil of being pro-Russia, slams peace proposal

When asked about Brazil’s position on the war, Zelenskyy said, “Unfortunately, I believe that they [the Brazilian government] are taking Russia’s side.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-china-brazil-peace-proposal-russia-ukraine/

Not surprising that Brazil is taking Russia’s side.  Brazil has moved very far away from the US the last 3 years and they are deep in China sphere of influence now.  More foreign policy failures from our current government.
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Plausible. But sounds like a very shitty deal for Ukraine.
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Ukraine will still own part of Russia, they need to get control of the Russian nuke plant first.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:31:16 PM EDT
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ICYMI: The Dutch Minister of Defence very recently disclosed in an interview with the German FAZ that so far nobody is willing to donate the remaining need parts for the Patriot fire unit the Netherlands wanted to assemble for Ukraine.

So they deliver their pledged parts individually to Ukraine for the AFU to integrate them into the existing fire units. A Patriot radar has already been delivered, three more launchers are to follow very soon.

Announcement of the Dutch initiative: More than three months ago and apparently, so far, nobody is willing to hand over even parts for a fire unit to assist Ukraine! That really hurts. In the end, this means that Ukraine will “only” receive two additional Patriot fire units, one from the US and one from Romania, which was mainly financed by the US (partly financed by Romania).

H/t
@Maks_NAFO_FELLA
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