Posted: 7/3/2026 7:45:06 PM EDT
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Found a few new search engines, the SearX kind of died off but there's two to improve over it. https://www.qwant.com And https://kagi.com/ They are 100% private an the AI summaries are optional as are the ads and suggested sites relative to your search, you can turn both of those off so you don't get either. Firefox makes a quick summery using AI if you enable it. Neither of these are backed by Bing search (like DuckDuckGo) or Google Search (Like brave with some additional local. These are much better than SearX and I paste the same query into both and get two different result sets but all on the topic. So I set my home search engine to "Both", opens two tabs, one quant and one kagi, and I paste query in both for now until I see if one has better first page of links hits than the other. Yes, both have Dark Mode, little moon icon to pick. Give them a try, It is a lot better than bing or google trying to give you one single result that is what they insist is what you're looking for and is the right question (Google's goal for 20 years with the "I'm Feeling Lucky". About 5 years ago the head honcho at Google said that they're trying to narrow it down so that queries are ALL "I'm Feeling Lucy" and that site is what you are really looking for (often by counting how any other people look at other sites so they push the crowd to follow. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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I was under the impression TOR was the gold standard of private browsers? Has that changed? I mean, I still use Google, just because it's convenient and I don't search for... untoward things. But if I wanted to browse more privately, I was thinking of getting TOR. Are these two better? |
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After giving all of them a run... Near Total tie with these two, top is #1. • https://kagi.com •https://www.qwant.com Kagi - Best and Fastest (especially if you have it give AI summary and a bunch of MSM links) If you want an AI summary instantly back with real sources and showing both good and bad of it with lots of links supporting all complaints and praise with ads you can disable but enable them or donate because they run their own index farm., try out https://kagi.com Qwant is Runner Up is https://www.qwant.com also pretty politically/religion neutral but I've been using it for technical searches since that's what I've been doing the past little bit. Also would like donations and for you to leave ads on but you can disable them. What knocked this to second place you might ask? Well, Qwant has NO reverse image search that I could find. Kagi wins for having at. These are a tie once you go into settings on both and make them match, don't filter adult content, always show AI summary, and provide better search keywords (suggests them to you, they don't just use it instead and no tell you as Google does). These guys also run this own index and so neither of these I found the fastest, easiest to use and most diverse (left/right politically, and similar in other topics. Again,I'll restate: It's also a bit slower but honestly, it's in the low milliseconds in debut which slows it own so that's not an issue, it's not like one takes 5 minutes to load back i the dial-up days but not lightning fast like Kagi (Near Google 2015 except private and making easy free on us and if we can afford, contribute to the search engines. If you find something you like open source on GitHub (both of these are),and a good coder, you ca help them troubleshoot or as if they need anything to thank them for making such an awesome search now that isn't censored. That's the rare part and if they don't et enough traffic, they won't glide into any reviews which in turn generates more traffic. We can use these search engines and save the path of information flow on uncensored private search engines. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: I was under the impression TOR was the gold standard of private browsers? Has that changed? I mean, I still use Google, just because it's convenient and I don't search for... untoward things. But if I wanted to browse more privately, I was thinking of getting TOR. Are these two better? You can access regular internet with Tor browser, your just not totally anonymized and these sites don't save user data. Opening and SSL link to regular internet will keep your traffic between that server and the tor router very short and difficult lo do anything, honestly, they'd only go that far if you were suspected of mass murder or something. However, once they build their dozens of data centers, that rule may change. If you are 20 of the 100,000 searches a day all from a different IP due to changing exit nodes, you're save and good to go. The problem is these sites don't provide tor links as so you need to hop from Tor to regular internet at some point. P.S. Yes, Google is better. Listen to his latest speech, sometime this year or late last year. Google is profiling you so you're only going to get answers they want you to see, pure manipulation by making you think that content outside their worldview exists, or they will be doing that and are on their way. These sites are something you should give a try, specially kagi, it has a google type interface and is very fast with answer apolitical and religion neutral. I've stayed up like 4 hours extra to test these more and update my posts a bit. I'm actually impressed for once and am happy that google and bing don't keep shoving stuff in my face, even when using duckcuckgo, its just an anonymized like running on the tor network, but it still guesses and once ll the data centers the are working on are built, tor won't be an issue because they'll have enough processing power and for all we know, there's a backdoor in browser we don't know about, such as a standard library that isn't edited unless you are a close to the metal systems programmer and I wouldn't doubt a grey (dark dark gray) volunteer is maintaining one of the sockets for traffic which can be redirected to somebody who cares and has a crapload of hard drive space and processing power to break SSL encryption. That's the paranoid take on it, though I could go a few steps further are you planning on google telling you how to make a better rocket fuel or an Iranian warhead. That is when they'll come and burn down your house with you in it. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: You can access regular internet with Tor browser, your just not totally anonymized and these sites don't save user data. Opening and SSL link to regular internet will keep your traffic between that server and the tor router very short and difficult lo do anything, honestly, they'd only go that far if you were suspected of mass murder or something. However, once they build their dozens of data centers, that rule may change. If you are 20 of the 100,000 searches a day all from a different IP due to changing exit nodes, you're save and good to go. The problem is these sites don't provide tor links as so you need to hop from Tor to regular internet at some point. P.S. Yes, Google is better. Listen to his latest speech, sometime this year or late last year. Google is profiling you so you're only going to get answers they want you to see, pure manipulation by making you think that content outside their worldview exists, or they will be doing that and are on their way. These sites are something you should give a try, specially kagi, it has a google type interface and is very fast with answer apolitical and religion neutral. I've stayed up like 4 hours extra to test these more and update my posts a bit. I'm actually impressed for once and am happy that google and bing don't keep shoving stuff in my face, even when using duckcuckgo, its just an anonymized like running on the tor network, but it still guesses and once ll the data centers the are working on are built, tor won't be an issue because they'll have enough processing power and for all we know, there's a backdoor in browser we don't know about, such as a standard library that isn't edited unless you are a close to the metal systems programmer and I wouldn't doubt a grey (dark dark gray) volunteer is maintaining one of the sockets for traffic which can be redirected to somebody who cares and has a crapload of hard drive space and processing power to break SSL encryption. That's the paranoid take on it, though I could go a few steps further are you planning on google telling you how to make a better rocket fuel or an Iranian warhead. That is when they'll come and burn down your house with you in it. Yeah... no. Not searching for things like rocket fuel or warhead construction. ![]() I think the biggest issue with my computing is I'm a hardware guy, not a software pro. I can assemble you an amazing gaming computer from parts, customize the case, install the water cooling, and all that jazz, but if I have to do more than double-click on something to make it work, it's a struggle. Mostly I'm looking stuff up for books I'm working on, and not "how to dispose of bodies." More along the lines of "what was typically eaten at a Norman feast when Richard the Good was Duke of Normandy." Google doesn't tend to politicize or insert religion into those things. |
Pope Gregorius Billingsgate Callipygian Quimtickler, First of His Name
Chakravartin of the Feculent Multiversal Litterbox
Protodeacon of the Iniquitous
Gurkhan of the Illimitable Feline Hordes
Chakravartin of the Feculent Multiversal Litterbox
Protodeacon of the Iniquitous
Gurkhan of the Illimitable Feline Hordes
