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Posted: 7/21/2024 4:33:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OG1]
Someone asked about the settings I used on a few projects so I figured I would add them here in case anyone can use them.

I have a 50W Fiber Laser. I use a 110mm and 175mm lens most of the time depending on what fits.

Settings:

UPDATE: I just discovered a formula I did not know before. I was using trial and error however this formula gets you the frequency needed for max power output. Take your advertised power rating and divide by the max pulse energy and it gives you the frequency for maximum power.

So for my JPT M7 80W:
Laser Power JPT 80W / Max Peak Pulse 1.5 = Max 53.3333 Frequency or 53 mHz
For the MAX 50W below:
Laser Power Max 50W / Max Peak Pulse 1.5 = Max 33.3333 Frequency or 33 mHz

The manual for the JPT also shows the Q-Pulse cut off scale so on that a Q-Pulse of 500ns.


Aluminum Deep
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Engrave Steel
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Color Cerakote Aluminum
FDE
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Sand
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Tan
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Color Cerakote Steel
Bronze
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FDE
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Green
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PMAG
Brown
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FDE
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Gray
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Light Gray
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Light Camo Brown
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Light Tan
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Glock Stipple
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Examples:

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Scrap lower I used for dialing in the settings:
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Link Posted: 7/21/2024 4:33:39 PM EDT
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@grn_zx6r
Link Posted: 7/21/2024 6:28:54 PM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 7/22/2024 5:35:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Holy Shit! I had no idea you could do that with a laser. That is awesome work.
Link Posted: 7/22/2024 6:40:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
Someone asked about the settings I used on a few projects so I figured I would add them here in case anyone can use them.

I have a 50W Fiber Laser. I use a 110mm and 175mm lens most of the time depending on what fits.
Settings:

Aluminum Deep
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/a1_png-3273223.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/a2_png-3273224.JPG
Engrave Steel
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/s1_png-3273226.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/s2_png-3273227.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/s3_png-3273229.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/s4_png-3273230.JPG

Color Cerakote Aluminum
FDE
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/f_png-3273232.JPG
Sand
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/s_png-3273233.JPG
Tan
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/t_png-3273235.JPG

Color Cerakote Steel
Bronze
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/b_png-3273236.JPG
FDE
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/f_png-3273237.JPG
Green
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/g_png-3273238.JPG

PMAG
Brown
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/b_png-3273242.JPG
FDE
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/f_png-3273243.JPG
Gray
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/g_png-3273244.JPG
Light Gray
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/lg_png-3273245.JPG
Light Camo Brown
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/cb_png-3273248.JPG
Light Tan
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/lt_png-3273252.JPG
Glock Stipple
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/glk_png-3273253.JPG


Examples:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/20240624_044953_jpg-3249356.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/20240624_045050_jpg-3249357.JPG
Scrap lower I used for dialing in the settings:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/20240607_121929_jpg-3250329.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/c0d8947d-3948-4805-becf-0da508a66804_jpg-3273213.JPG
https://i.imgur.com/03ufyiF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZyS3Fmv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uw7F1WO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VWFrjdA.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/TDEhwb1.jpg
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@OG1
What laser are you using? Is there a newer model out now that you would recommend?
Link Posted: 7/22/2024 8:32:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gage:

@OG1
What laser are you using? Is there a newer model out now that you would recommend?
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I got this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/126166158159  (they threw in the rotary free after adding to cart as an incentive) using a Max 50W laser source. You can do the same with a cheaper 20W it just takes longer. If you want to do colors on stainless look into a MOPA. If I had it to do over again, I really want the Monport GA 100W, it does a lot and they have deals much cheaper for on ebay than the website.
Link Posted: 7/23/2024 3:09:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
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Thanks @OG1 !! Can’t wait to try these out once we get back from vacation!
Link Posted: 7/23/2024 3:28:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grn_zx6r:


Thanks @OG1 !! Can't wait to try these out once we get back from vacation!
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Most welcome. I use a program also that converts all the settings you have saved in your library to different wattages so like 50W to 20W or anything like 110mm lens to 175mm and so on. It is not perfect by any means but gets you in the ball park after doing so much work say on one lens then going to another. On deep engraving I don't change it since I want full power but it seemed to convert the pmag settings pretty well when I tested it.

https://github.com/shark92651/LaserParamsConverter

(Direct link may work from here but if not just use above and dl the zip) https://github.com/shark92651/LaserParamsConverter/archive/refs/heads/master.zip



Link Posted: 7/23/2024 7:08:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
I got this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/126166158159  (they threw in the rotary free after adding to cart as an incentive) using a Max 50W laser source. You can do the same with a cheaper 20W it just takes longer. If you want to do colors on stainless look into a MOPA. If I had it to do over again, I really want the Monport GA 100W, it does a lot and they have deals much cheaper for on ebay than the website.
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Insane how cheap fiber lasers are getting. I got my Monport 30w on Ebay for $1,800 with a Raycus source and no rotary. But I agree, if I had to do it all over again I'd get a JPT MOPA.
Link Posted: 7/24/2024 12:34:37 PM EDT
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Thank you very much.

I was coming here to ask for some help with deep engraving in steel. This was exactly what I needed.
Link Posted: 7/24/2024 12:44:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jm0502:
Thank you very much.

I was coming here to ask for some help with deep engraving in steel. This was exactly what I needed.
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Awesome. Just run as many passes as it takes on your machine to get to the depth you like. The settings for that will work on any lens or power, I keep that the same on all 3 lenses I have but go deeper on the 70mm and 110 of course. The frequency is also where the depth comes in, run that as low as your machine will allow.

I ran the aluminum settings with a global of 3 instead of 2 on this one and really like the way it came out:

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Link Posted: 7/24/2024 1:28:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
Awesome. Just run as many passes as it takes on your machine to get to the depth you like. The settings for that will work on any lens or power, I keep that the same on all 3 lenses I have but go deeper on the 70mm and 110 of course. The frequency is also where the depth comes in, run that as low as your machine will allow.

I ran the aluminum settings with a global of 3 instead of 2 on this one and really like the way it came out:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/airforce_jpg-3275710.JPG
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That turned out great, I may have to do one. My friends son just joined the Air Force.

just tried those settings, got good results but it doesnt look like im getting as much depth as you. I have a 100W MOPA. ran it at 75% power. Still need to play around more with it.


Also for the Scroll work you've done, are you designing it yourself or using software?
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:01:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jm0502:

That turned out great, I may have to do one. My friends son just joined the Air Force.

just tried those settings, got good results but it doesnt look like im getting as much depth as you. I have a 100W MOPA. ran it at 75% power. Still need to play around more with it.


Also for the Scroll work you've done, are you designing it yourself or using software?
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Thanks! On the engraving it pretty much takes all the power you can throw at it then adjust number of passes. I made a few scrolls but it took sooooooo long so I bought a kit with them incuded. Shoot me an email and if the size is not too large I can send you the ai8 files to them or svg if preferred. I did this on this weekend and ended up using crayon as color fill:

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Link Posted: 8/7/2024 11:38:59 PM EDT
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Absolutely amazing work!
Link Posted: 8/14/2024 8:19:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Nice work. Thank you for sharing your settings.
Link Posted: 8/14/2024 9:05:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By This_Is_Necessary:
Absolutely amazing work!
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Originally Posted By bradleyswine:
Nice work. Thank you for sharing your settings.
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Thank you both very kindly. I have upgraded to an 80W JPT and will update to those as well. I was surprised in the difference between a 50 and 80 on the testing I have done so far.
Link Posted: 8/14/2024 9:06:21 AM EDT
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Thanks some nice work.
Thanks for the settings too!
I'll be converting them down to my 20w Raycus after work.

I'm still working on marking some cheap white acrylic dice, but PMag, SBR & 80% are next on my list.
Link Posted: 8/14/2024 9:12:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
... I ran the aluminum settings with a global of 3 instead of 2 on this one and really like the way it came out:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/airforce_jpg-3275710.JPG
Originally Posted By OG1:
Thank you both very kindly. I have upgraded to an 80W JPT ...
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That's some nice, clean cutting.
Are you working with images or vectors?
Directly in Lightburn or in something else for layout then importing?

I'm doing prep work in Inkscape, but final designs don't transfer over as cleanly as I'd like.

Mmmm... 80w JPT.... Tease Me Harder Daddy!!
(nope - not at all jealous, why do you ask? )
Link Posted: 8/14/2024 9:16:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Amish_Bill:
That's some nice, clean cutting.
Are you working with images or vectors?
Directly in Lightburn or in something else for layout then importing?

I'm doing prep work in Inkscape, but final designs don't transfer over as cleanly as I'd like.

Mmmm... 80w JPT.... Tease Me Harder Daddy!!
(nope - not at all jealous, why do you ask? )
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Thanks! I am doing everything except scroll work right in lightburn. I am either using them premade or making the vectors. Lightburn's trace works pretty darn good to make the vectors but I really like how easy it is to manipulate curves and draw your own stuff in it. I do also use Inkscape but since getting into lightburn I have not looked back for anything else except Illustrator so I can layer the scroll work.
Link Posted: 8/16/2024 12:24:57 AM EDT
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I've been having a hell of a time working out numbers for cheap white acrylic dice.
So far, on a 20w Raycus, 110 lens, I'm at 800mm/s, 40%, Freq 60, line 0.05, and anywhere between 1 and 10 passes (solid images lower, thin vectors more)

I may give in and sacrifice more to a material test matrix or two now that I have a rough range to look at.
Link Posted: 8/29/2024 1:01:38 PM EDT
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A custom scroll job I did on a build:



Link Posted: 8/29/2024 1:05:33 PM EDT
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Awesome work and design. Where do you hide the serial number?
Link Posted: 8/29/2024 1:09:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:


Awesome work and design. Where do you hide the serial number?
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Thanks! It was an 80% pistol build but I did put some info in the trigger area, I think I did
CAL: MULTI
SER: the date and my initials SS
Link Posted: 8/29/2024 3:57:21 PM EDT
[#23]
That's Nice... :-)
Link Posted: 8/29/2024 4:57:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Nice work!  For laughs, I was thinking a Mattel branded lower would be cool, or the Tupperware logo on a polymer pistol frame.
Link Posted: 8/29/2024 5:01:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moondog:
Nice work!  For laughs, I was thinking a Mattel branded lower would be cool, or the Tupperware logo on a polymer pistol frame.
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I think both of those would be awesome. I wish I had access to de-milled or chopped up Glock frames to practice on. I tried A2 grips and even my Lonewolf frame but nothing is like Glocks plastic, it must be something special, it is so easy to work where all the other plastics fight me. I do have an old poly AR lower I may play with now that I am thinking about it.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:09:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moondog:
Nice work!  For laughs, I was thinking a Mattel branded lower would be cool, or the Tupperware logo on a polymer pistol frame.
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I went off to look for the right MATTEL logo to see what I could whip up, and darnit... now I'm looking for Crane MK18 MOD0 graphics.

I found a post from around 2010 where someone made a nice PSD of it and offered it around, but, well, anonymized archives and all that. :-/
Link Posted: 9/17/2024 12:08:47 PM EDT
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OP you have a lot of nice work, the scroll work is amazing and so are you for sharing the settings. (way above my pay grade but someone can learn something im sure) so, bump?
Link Posted: 9/17/2024 12:14:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Thank you kindly
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 5:35:21 PM EDT
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About how long does a roll mark burn like the armalite one you show take and what is the actual depth? I presently have a CNC router and am seriously thinking about getting a laser, your handy work is giving me a big push.
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 5:43:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mirion:
About how long does a roll mark burn like the armalite one you show take and what is the actual depth? I presently have a CNC router and am seriously thinking about getting a laser, your handy work is giving me a big push.
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It depends on what power fiber laser you get. I think my 80W takes about 10 mins and is deeper than typical factory bought AR's. The Air Force one above is zoomed in and really shows it. You can achieve the exact same results with a 20w, it will just take longer. I started doing it on my CNC and it did not look bad at all. My issues there was I really really had to get the lower very very flat in my vise or it would be un even. Then I played with the Tormach diamond drag tool and it was very easy to use but not very deep.

Here is a quick video I did using the diamond drag method.

Diamond Drag Engraving a clone M16A2 lower.

Link Posted: 9/23/2024 1:12:30 PM EDT
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So you have upgraded to the JPT 80w, would that be the one that they refer to on Ebay as a Preeneex? Are you happy with it?

You obviously are very experienced. I see a lot of negative comments about just about all of the manufacturers (Monport, Omtech, etc) on places like Reddit. Is that because a lot of the people are not very technically competent and the manufacturers don't provide much support or are these Chinese made lasers truly not very reliable?.....Thanks for any input, Mike
Link Posted: 9/23/2024 1:20:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mirion:
So you have upgraded to the JPT 80w, would that be the one that they refer to on Ebay as a Preeneex? Are you happy with it?

You obviously are very experienced. I see a lot of negative comments about just about all of the manufacturers (Monport, Omtech, etc) on places like Reddit. Is that because a lot of the people are not very technically competent and the manufacturers don't provide much support or are these Chinese made lasers truly not very reliable?.....Thanks for any input, Mike
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I love it and the max 50w. I think the reason people complain is the Chinese do not tune it at all. There are many settings that need tweaking to dial it in to perfection. This series covers all of them, some are oriented to Ezcad but same things to go over. All 3 of mine have been rock solid. I am having an unfortunate issue now with the 50w I sold to an arfcomer. USPS nearly destroyed it in shipping but hopefully we will get that going and him some cash back if usps will ever respond to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_M19yy4G9g&list=PLoBR3k35202Yjc1yMfPZsY8EDh_pmcaa2



Link Posted: 9/23/2024 2:26:55 PM EDT
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Thankyou thankyou thankyou, That video you recommended was exactly what I needed at this point in time. It sorts out a lot of the jargon, brand names and technology types. I am just starting my trip into the world of lasers and although I have experience in CNC and other manufacturing processes I knew nothing about lasers. It seems to be a fast moving technology and a lot of information out there that is more than a year old is pretty much obsolete. Thanks again, I'll probably be back with more questions seeing as firearms are also a hobby of mine.
Link Posted: 9/23/2024 2:29:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mirion:


Thankyou thankyou thankyou, That video you recommended was exactly what I needed at this point in time. It sorts out a lot of the jargon, brand names and technology types. I am just starting my trip into the world of lasers and although I have experience in CNC and other manufacturing processes I knew nothing about lasers. It seems to be a fast moving technology and a lot of information out there that is more than a year old is pretty much obsolete. Thanks again, I'll probably be back with more questions seeing as firearms are also a hobby of mine.
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Awesome! I am more than happy to help when you are ready.
Link Posted: Yesterday 10:45:24 PM EDT
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Just stumbled on this thread. Thank you OP for taking the time to do a write up and all the responses. Subscribed!
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