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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:38:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly you have no idea who OP is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFELTRaVPfMFeds don't want to mess with such a madman.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:40:51 PM EST
[#2]
 5 Minute Speech that Got Judge Napolitano Fired from Fox News |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:42:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeffersonian aristocratic republicanism brought down to the lowest level possible where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets and an economic system that's naturally deflationary as things get more efficient. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The fact that the OP can publicly ponder such thangs without even a remote fear of reprisal… Please continue your thought sir What’s your alternative ? Multinational Corporations ? Jeffersonian aristocratic republicanism brought down to the lowest level possible where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets and an economic system that's naturally deflationary as things get more efficient. So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:43:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Declaration of Independence states clear reasons why people would have a need to dissolve their "ties" with an existing ruling authority when it threatens their right to life liberty and (you know - the thing to quote FJB). The US Constitution also provides a clear path to bypass congress and get their rights back whereby 34 or more states can call for a Constitutional convention and basically drain the swamp and fire people.. So far only 19 states have signed on - including South Carolina I'm proud to say. Some people have expressed fear of this ... fear of what?? that their 2nd amendment will go away?? I have news... it's already been cancelled and a lot of it is by a government fiat agency (AFT) and wokeness. It is time for a divorce in my opinion. Perhaps a convention might be considered a form of remediation in an attempt to safe the marriage, but if that fails then it's over. One of the most legitimate things people bring up is the military. Being as both it is Constitutionally authorized, and is a necessity. Sylvan had an interesting take on that I loved. Basically, we are blessed by our geography. Do you have a war in the desert? You better hope Arizona wants to fight it. Do you have a war in the tundra? Well you better hope Montana and Alaska feel it is a worthy war. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:44:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. I read this twice and you are making no sense |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:45:36 PM EST
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Govt can't help itself but to grow and become more intrusive. Most laws have good intentions. The road to totalitarianism is paved with good intentions until the good intentions become bad intentions.
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:46:30 PM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:47:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. Ok check this out. How bout every none felon 18 and over gets to vote for the House... but the states themselves vote on the Senate? |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:47:57 PM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:48:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Govt can't help itself but to grow and become more intrusive. Most laws have good intentions. The road to totalitarianism is paved with good intentions until the good intentions become bad intentions. Indeed, and local government has different corruption opportunities than national government. However, being as I never think about New Mexico or Connecticut in my daily life I can certainly agree to not setting policy for them. I would imagine most people feel similarly, and if not I don't want to be around them because it is not normal to want to control people you never interact with. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:49:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alter, via elections. The problem is not the government’s corruption. The problem is the people who elect the government’s corruption. The people have to be changed. By appealing to their good sense? selflessness? inherent decency? for their grandchildren? Or by force and punitive measures? |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:51:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By appealing to their good sense? selflessness? inherent decency? for their grandchildren? Or by force and punitive measures? Allowing people to break the cycle of perpetually awful public education would be a start. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:51:33 PM EST
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Single Transferable Vote tied to a cryptographicly secure block chain, proportional districting. Problem solved.
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:52:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Allowing people to break the cycle of perpetually awful public education would be a start. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: By appealing to their good sense? selflessness? inherent decency? for their grandchildren? Or by force and punitive measures? Allowing people to break the cycle of perpetually awful public education would be a start. The issue with this is simply because people find it easy. I totally agree with you but it will be a tough sell. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:52:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if the people weren't shitty and stupid? Unfortunately our government has morphed into a system which supports, enables, and propagates. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:52:42 PM EST
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It was not until recently that the Second Amendment was openly referenced as going beyond sporting use, or self defense; the norm has become use to defend against tyranny. Conservatives are finally discussing the full and true meaning.
Times, they are a changing. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:54:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Single Transferable Vote tied to a cryptographicly secure block chain, proportional districting. Problem solved. Ummmm So you think the only issue is election security? I disagree with you sir. I think there are a lot of functions government does that they shouldn't be doing, I think PACs should not exist, I think the entire political machine is awash in influential money, etc etc I think election security is important, but I think there are much larger issues we should address philosophically, theologically and locally. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:55:24 PM EST
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The left has been targeting those that disagree with their insanity because they know that the gov't is not some nameless faceless beast. The people that make it up have names, faces, and homes that they live in. We know that those who believe in the constitution are not voting their way out of this because there are to many people on the other side who hate this nation and its constitution.
Perhaps we need to take a page out of the lefts playbook and go after those that are corrupt, those that ignore the constitution, those that have sold us out and who continue to sell this nation out. Now I did not say with violence but with protest right at their front door because nothing else will get their attention. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:56:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately our government has morphed into a system which supports, enables, and propagates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if the people weren't shitty and stupid? Unfortunately our government has morphed into a system which supports, enables, and propagates. And what is the title of the thread sir? 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:57:06 PM EST
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Claire booth put it so well, just read my sigline.
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:57:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The left has been targeting those that disagree with their insanity because they know that the gov't is not some nameless faceless beast. The people that make it up have names, faces, and homes that they live in. We know that those who believe in the constitution are not voting their way out of this because there are to many people on the other side who hate this nation and its constitution. Perhaps we need to take a page out of the lefts playbook and go after those that are corrupt, those that ignore the constitution, those that have sold us out and who continue to sell this nation out. Now I did not say with violence but with protest right at their front door because nothing else will get their attention. Don't even need to do that. Your consent is all that is required, and revoking it is very simple and easy. Easier still if you live around people who share your values. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 2:57:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The left has been targeting those that disagree with their insanity because they know that the gov't is not some nameless faceless beast. The people that make it up have names, faces, and homes that they live in. We know that those who believe in the constitution are not voting their way out of this because there are to many people on the other side who hate this nation and its constitution. Perhaps we need to take a page out of the lefts playbook and go after those that are corrupt, those that ignore the constitution, those that have sold us out and who continue to sell this nation out. Now I did not say with violence but with protest right at their front door because nothing else will get their attention. Falling into the trap of believing this is a left vs. right dynamic is what got us into this mess in the first place. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:02:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alter, via elections. Quote HistoryQuoted: Alter, via elections. Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. ~Joseph Stalin (1878-1953) while there is some argument as to whether or not stalin actually said this, it is clear it is a proven communist tactic to maintain power that has been adopted by the democrat part now in the united states. So I don't have a lot of faith in voting anymore - sorry to say that. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:02:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Falling into the trap of believing this is a left vs. right dynamic is what got us into this mess in the first place. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The left has been targeting those that disagree with their insanity because they know that the gov't is not some nameless faceless beast. The people that make it up have names, faces, and homes that they live in. We know that those who believe in the constitution are not voting their way out of this because there are to many people on the other side who hate this nation and its constitution. Perhaps we need to take a page out of the lefts playbook and go after those that are corrupt, those that ignore the constitution, those that have sold us out and who continue to sell this nation out. Now I did not say with violence but with protest right at their front door because nothing else will get their attention. Falling into the trap of believing this is a left vs. right dynamic is what got us into this mess in the first place. And we fall victim to it as well here on arfcom. The more you discuss things with real people the more you find out how similar we all are, and the better you develop your arguments, especially in a polite setting. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:03:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ummmm So you think the only issue is election security? I disagree with you sir. I think there are a lot of functions government does that they shouldn't be doing, I think PACs should not exist, I think the entire political machine is awash in influential money, etc etc I think election security is important, but I think there are much larger issues we should address philosophically, theologically and locally. None of which can be solved unless the power of the people to have maximum consensus is there. All of the things you mention exist to exploit the current voting systems outside the will and desires of the electorate. If the political machines could only win by getting everyone to agree without resorting to manipulation of the current system then they would no longer exist. Solve the consensus problem, all other problems can be solved by that reasonable consensus. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:03:32 PM EST
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The Constitution as written and understood when adopted, is suitable only for a moral and religious people.
We no longer are. The conversation needs to be had. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:04:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol while there is some argument as to whether or not stalin actually said this, it is clear it is a proven communist tactic to maintain power that has been adopted by the democrat part now in the united states. So I don't have a lot of faith in voting anymore - sorry to say that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alter, via elections. Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. ~Joseph Stalin (1878-1953) while there is some argument as to whether or not stalin actually said this, it is clear it is a proven communist tactic to maintain power that has been adopted by the democrat part now in the united states. So I don't have a lot of faith in voting anymore - sorry to say that. You are already free brother, and that is a really difficult concept for a lot of people to honestly and truly grasp. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:04:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read this twice and you are making no sense Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. I read this twice and you are making no sense I’ve heard that I do that. . You want to go back to the system “ where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets “. Will your return to the original ways include ANY landed folks this time around ? Women ? Non Protestants ? Non Anglo Saxons ? Atheists ? Homosexuals ? Ex Cons ? Would the landed folk have to be at least a 5th generation natural born citizen? First generation natural born citizen ? Whatever it is, please scream it from the mountain tops. If it’s so important to revert to this time in our history that y’all J6 types feel it necessary to genocide liberals and progressives then have y’all’s candidates put it out there clearly so the current folks who are still able to vote can be informed on whom is going to be in charge and what their new reality will be if y’all win. TY |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:04:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Falling into the trap of believing this is a left vs. right dynamic is what got us into this mess in the first place. The reason it's a left vs right dynamic is because it IS a left vs right dynamic caused by first past the post voting. It always will be, it's a mathematic certainty. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:05:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve heard that I do that. . You want to go back to the system “ where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets “. Will your return to the original ways include ANY landed folks this time around ? Women ? Non Protestants ? Non Anglo Saxons ? Atheists ? Homosexuals ? Ex Cons ? Would the landed folk have to be at least a 5th generation natural born citizen? First generation natural born citizen ? Whatever it is, please scream it from the mountain tops. If it’s so important to revert to this time in our history that y’all J6 types feel it necessary to genocide liberals and progressives then have y’all’s candidates put it out there clearly so the current folks who are still able to vote can be informed on whom is going to be in charge and what their new reality will be if y’all win. TY Why would it not? |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:05:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Constitution as written and understood when adopted, is suitable only for a moral and religious people. We no longer are. The conversation needs to be had. Sure, but those other people still need a government. I just don't want to be a part of their government. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:06:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryIt is doubtful that such would result as expected. The Second would most likely be severely restricted if not abolished. Remember, the cities now control the majority of the US. Their power will expand. A convention of states is a trap. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:06:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately our government has morphed into a system which supports, enables, and propagates. So... how do we fix that? 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:07:43 PM EST
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Repeal the 16th Amendment and the Fed Res Act.
Repeal anything legislated after 1913. Criminal charges against most of Congress for violation of oath of office (defend & uphold the Constitution, not legislate our rights away). The Constitution is good, but hasn't been followed for decades. No more endless wars or reckless spending. G'mo for many, many people. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:07:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve heard that I do that. . You want to go back to the system “ where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets “. Will your return to the original ways include ANY landed folks this time around ? Women ? Non Protestants ? Non Anglo Saxons ? Atheists ? Homosexuals ? Ex Cons ? Would the landed folk have to be at least a 5th generation natural born citizen? First generation natural born citizen ? Whatever it is, please scream it from the mountain tops. If it’s so important to revert to this time in our history that y’all J6 types feel it necessary to genocide liberals and progressives then have y’all’s candidates put it out there clearly so the current folks who are still able to vote can be informed on whom is going to be in charge and what their new reality will be if y’all win. TY Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. I read this twice and you are making no sense I’ve heard that I do that. . You want to go back to the system “ where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets “. Will your return to the original ways include ANY landed folks this time around ? Women ? Non Protestants ? Non Anglo Saxons ? Atheists ? Homosexuals ? Ex Cons ? Would the landed folk have to be at least a 5th generation natural born citizen? First generation natural born citizen ? Whatever it is, please scream it from the mountain tops. If it’s so important to revert to this time in our history that y’all J6 types feel it necessary to genocide liberals and progressives then have y’all’s candidates put it out there clearly so the current folks who are still able to vote can be informed on whom is going to be in charge and what their new reality will be if y’all win. TY I'm not sure but I'm not worried what other people do in other states. Virginia would ideally debate all these issues and decide. If I didn't like the decisions, I would move to an area which decisions aligned more with my own. I certainly wouldn't want these issues to be decided in Washington DC and then applied everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:08:08 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And we fall victim to it as well here on arfcom. The more you discuss things with real people the more you find out how similar we all are, and the better you develop your arguments, especially in a polite setting. Yeah, I did that thread a month or two ago. It wasn’t well received. Your “enemies” are a fabrication of politicians and the media, as they intentionally try to drive a wedge. It’s what they must do to survive, and it is ruinous. The fringe on the left and the fringe on the right who swallow it, and who believe they are at war with a certain segment of society, are ironically the same. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:08:29 PM EST
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Rather than typing out a lengthy reply, let me just say that for about a thousand different reasons, this country is in serious, serious trouble, folks.
And unfortunately, I don't think anyone is coming to save us. The disaster has been developing for many years and the blame goes in "a lot" of directions. But yeah, keep your umbrellas handy, cuz the forecast is definitely calling for rain. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:09:38 PM EST
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This organism called "the government" has one of the most violent and radical self-preservation reflexes known to man.
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:11:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I did that thread a month or two ago. It wasn’t well received. Your “enemies” are a fabrication of politicians and the media, as they intentionally try to drive a wedge. It’s what they must do to survive, and it is ruinous. The fringe on the left and the fringe on the right who swallow it, and who believe they are at war with a certain segment of society, are ironically the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And we fall victim to it as well here on arfcom. The more you discuss things with real people the more you find out how similar we all are, and the better you develop your arguments, especially in a polite setting. Yeah, I did that thread a month or two ago. It wasn’t well received. Your “enemies” are a fabrication of politicians and the media, as they intentionally try to drive a wedge. It’s what they must do to survive, and it is ruinous. The fringe on the left and the fringe on the right who swallow it, and who believe they are at war with a certain segment of society, are ironically the same. Except for communists and advocates for centralized power. They can die in a fire. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:12:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So... how do we fix that? There are easy fixes: repealing the 17th Amendment, abolishing the 2-party system, abolishing primaries, overturning the Citizens United SCOTUS decision…. All would do much. Now, instituting the fixes is another matter. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:12:42 PM EST
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Quoted: Rather than typing out a lengthy reply, let me just say that for about a thousand different reasons, this country is in serious, serious trouble, folks. And unfortunately, I don't think anyone is coming to save us. The disaster has been developing for many years and the blame goes in "a lot" of directions. But yeah, keep your umbrellas handy, cuz the forecast is definitely calling for rain. Quoted: This organism called "the government" has one of the most violent and radical self-preservation reflexes known to man. Gentlemen, the government is a reflection of ourselves and we can change it. 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:14:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thomas Paine Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness possitively by uniting our affections, the latter negatively by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher. Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries by a Government, which we might expect in a country without Government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other law-giver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expence and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:15:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are easy fixes: repealing the 17th Amendment, abolishing the 2-party system, abolishing primaries, overturning the Citizens United SCOTUS decision…. All would do much. Now, instituting the fixes is another matter. Ok so whats something that can be instituted easily? |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:17:37 PM EST
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Second American Revolution, 2025.
The revolution has been active for ten days. Veteran led militia companies are engaged in fierce combat with Federal troops. Some Federal units have switched sides, local LE and the National Guard are with the revolution or have evaporated. It’s June 1st, tenth day of the fighting: Militia Captain Stiffy McBigcock (retired MSG US Army) enters the TOC of the 1st West Virginia Volunteer Infantry: Stiffy: hey guys, anybody else not get their direct deposit today? I’m not seeing my pension or my 100% VA disability? Sgt Veiny Johnson (former Marine): same thing with me! Company Armorer Fat Oldy (retired Walmart greeter): my wife just called and said no Social Security check! And I paid in! Private Spider Bob Smith (never had a job): spits tobacco, my SSI Disability better be in my account! June 2nd: Everybody goes home. Government remains unabolished and unaltered. Turns out people got the government they wanted the whole time. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:20:35 PM EST
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Our system of government is fine. It’s the corrupt people in it. How does this get solved? Well, examples need to be made. Examples that won’t be forgotten for hundreds of years. Such that no politician dares to be corrupt for fear of….
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:21:29 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Second American Revolution, 2025. The revolution has been active for ten days. Veteran led militia companies are engaged in fierce combat with Federal troops. Some Federal units have switched sides, local LE and the National Guard are with the revolution or have evaporated. It's June 1st, tenth day of the fighting: Militia Captain Stiffy McBigcock (retired MSG US Army) enters the TOC of the 1st West Virginia Volunteer Infantry: Stiffy: hey guys, anybody else not get their direct deposit today? I'm not seeing my pension or my 100% VA disability? Sgt Veiny Johnson (former Marine): same thing with me! Company Armorer Fat Oldy (retired Walmart greeter): my wife just called and said no Social Security check! And I paid in! Private Spider Bob Smith (never had a job): spits tobacco, my SSI Disability better be in my account! June 2nd: Everybody goes home. Government remains unabolished and unaltered. Turns out people got the government they wanted the whole time. here's what happened to them: https://highlandcountypress.com/Content/Opinions/Opinion/Article/The-brave-and-noble-56-signers/4/22/58289 There were no pensions to worry about then. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:22:07 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, but those other people still need a government. I just don't want to be a part of their government. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Constitution as written and understood when adopted, is suitable only for a moral and religious people. We no longer are. The conversation needs to be had. Sure, but those other people still need a government. I just don't want to be a part of their government. Those other people can go to one of the other 190-ish countries in this world and leave this one alone as the shining city on the hill. But you and I both know that won’t happen. The world powers cannot allow this country to thumb our noses at their attempts at control. That’s a large part of the problem. It’s not just a USA internal issue. It’s a world wide issue. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:24:03 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is doubtful that such would result as expected. The Second would most likely be severely restricted if not abolished. Remember, the cities now control the majority of the US. Their power will expand. A convention of states is a trap. Quote HistoryQuoted: A convention of states is a trap. I’m OK with that as at least we would then know what to do. This in between period where, as pointed out earlier, it’s too early to shoot the bastards, is being stretched out until we are incapable of resisting the takeover. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:24:10 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure but I'm not worried what other people do in other states. Virginia would ideally debate all these issues and decide. If I didn't like the decisions, I would move to an area which decisions aligned more with my own. I certainly wouldn't want these issues to be decided in Washington DC and then applied everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So will the folks with a skin in the game allow Catholics a seat at the table? Women? Will any folks who are not whatever sect of Protestantism that is currently en vogue and who are not of English heritage have a seat at the table regardless of how much land they own ? Be careful what ya wish for ! Make America Great Again is a much different outcome for the 10 million men who want to revert to the time between 1650 & 1850 than the other 60 million folks who voted for DJT. Those 60 million folks have seem to have forgotten how difficult a time their kinfolk had it between 1650 & 1850 and those 60 million folk obviously don’t comprehend that the woke movement during the previous 150 years is the reason that they currently have a seat at the table. ALL women in particular need to understand that empowering J6 types will absolutely result in the repeal of the 19th amendment. As to your longing to revert to the system where only landed folk of English origin will have a seat at the table, I would hope that all like minded political candidates will stump on that message. If it’s truly a system worth forcibly ending the current system for then scream it from the mountain tops. If y’all gonna spread them goalposts just a touch down yonder and amend the original intent to include any landed folk regardless of religion, national origin and/or gender then that would be quite refreshing and truly woke of y’all. I read this twice and you are making no sense I’ve heard that I do that. . You want to go back to the system “ where only people with skin in the game can vote with a currency backed by physical assets “. Will your return to the original ways include ANY landed folks this time around ? Women ? Non Protestants ? Non Anglo Saxons ? Atheists ? Homosexuals ? Ex Cons ? Would the landed folk have to be at least a 5th generation natural born citizen? First generation natural born citizen ? Whatever it is, please scream it from the mountain tops. If it’s so important to revert to this time in our history that y’all J6 types feel it necessary to genocide liberals and progressives then have y’all’s candidates put it out there clearly so the current folks who are still able to vote can be informed on whom is going to be in charge and what their new reality will be if y’all win. TY I'm not sure but I'm not worried what other people do in other states. Virginia would ideally debate all these issues and decide. If I didn't like the decisions, I would move to an area which decisions aligned more with my own. I certainly wouldn't want these issues to be decided in Washington DC and then applied everywhere. Now we are getting somewhere and to assure what you want will happen in whatever state you settle in you will first need your federal government to set it in stone that the federal supreme court’s jurisdiction is ONLY mulling over federal stuff. NO state stuff. Not even one state issue will ever again be subject to the federal supreme court’s job description. 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 3:24:36 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our system of government is fine. It’s the corrupt people in it. How does this get solved? Well, examples need to be made. Examples that won’t be forgotten for hundreds of years. Such that no politician dares to be corrupt for fear of…. I think it is too centralized to be accountable, and too large to serve each states needs. I agree corruption is huge, but with something that large it is natural |
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