Neither has anyone else.

My mal secures my fenced in yard several times a day running around going here kitty kitty kitty I have a fun game to play with you.

I do sort of fell bad if the cat has a caller on, but then again a responsible owner would keep the cat on there property.

Ah, yes

PETA patrol is here

A responsible owner won't let their animal  kill another animal just because it is in their yard. Especially if it is wearing a collar. You know cats do escape sometimes and they're a lot harder to catch than dogs.

Lulz

Yep I am a horribly irresponsible owner keeping my dog in my fenced yard.

And who said anything about letting her kill them. Even If I was watching her while she was outside in her 2 acre yard. By the time I see it its over. One snap and a shake and its night night kitty.

Yes, but we also should be releasing some after spaying/neutering.   The fixed cats help push other ferals away.   Take some gigantic asshole tom cat, get him the snip job, and turn him loose.

Fuck me, .300 win mag is a little overkill. I would personally be loading something slightly cheaper and easier on the shoulder.

That is pure and willful ignorance.  Of course they kill pheasants and quail.

Back in the early 90's, before feral cats became an issue, we had a surge in the deer population, followed closely by a surge in the population of coyotes.  Within a couple years, the quail population crashed, and I haven't seen a wild pheasant since.  Turkey have done fine though.

There are still too many coyotes around, but they keep the feral cat population down.  They do NOT keep the vermin population down around the house though, so we hire kitty to do that.

FPNI

yep coyotes will chase down a cat but not a mouse rat vole

They will, but they tend to avoid spending a lot of time next to our house.  It shortens their life expectancy.  They are smart, opportunistic bastards.

Allowing a cat to escape is violating the nonaggression principle and the cats death falls on the owner.

So you like to drown trapped cats?

yep some one asked about there missing cat on Nextdoor appand I posted the pic of coyote with the cat in its mouth and asked if that was it. And that it is irresponsible to let  cats roam in an area with so many predictors looking for an easy meal.

I got a suspension

It's amazing that some people can't believe some actions are performed without joy. It's possible to do something because it's necessary not because it brings pleasure.

I have yet to hear anything that would motivate me to sign up for the Nextdoor app, but I have heard plenty that makes me think it would be a waste of my time.

Years ago, the neighborhood crazy cat lady lost a cat.  She decided that I had killed it and made some accusations, which I denied.  Eventually, a couple people managed to coax her into deciding that a coyote had killed the cat, and some time after that, my father told me that he had seen the cat's demise in his front yard.  

A neighbor maybe a quarter mile away had some sort of mixed breed dog that I described as a cross between a pit bull and an alligator.  From time to time, it would get out of its fenced yard, trot across a field to the house with 87 junk cars in the back yard, wait for the pit bull at that house to work its collar off over its head (freeing it from the heavy chain), then they'd be off looking for mischief to get into.  My father happened to see them playing tug of war with the cat in question.  The cat lost.  Then the two dogs ran off with their individual shares of the cat.  I asked my father why he didn't tell the crazy cat lady, and he said he didn't want to stir up any bad feelings between neighbors, then just shrugged when I pointed out that I had been blamed for the cat disappearing.  The alligator/pit mix was eventually dealt with by its owner, after it attacked an elderly woman.

Nextdoor app is 90% nanny stuff 10% humorous. I just like to poke the Karen's

They’d both get the same 22 around here.

Read it again- CATS BELONG INDOORS OR THEY GET SHOT BY MAN OR EATEN BY COYOTE.

What kind of prick wants a cat shot or eaten?

You should take the above bullshit and go read literally any study on upland game. You think a coyote is catching a covey of quail? Maybe 1, one time in a lucky case. Often? You’ve clearly never read a study OR chased quail.

Stop spreading your nonsense.

Edit- your upland game left the same time developers started tearing down every bit of habitat for a subdivision. Habitat loss is the number one reason for upland game loss far and above every other cause. Stop blaming coyotes. Coyotes have coexisted with upland game for eternity, yet only in the last 40 years have birds vanished.

You ducks unlimited sorts sound a lot like the other "DU" types we have to put up with.

Nothing but a watermelon in a red hat.

I missed this.

Lol, i've been onsite every day, 24/7/365, in the field, since 1984.

That facility used to be overrun with pheasants and quail.  I remember driving down a road one morning many years ago, about 0500, and seeing literally a dozen+ cocks lined up along the road, spaced about 100 feet apart on both sides just waiting for that lucky hen to wander thru. Avian sausage party.  There were hundreds of ground birds on site back in the 80s and early 90s. Plenty of cats around during that time, too. and all the other stuff I mentioned.

I've seen one pheasant in the last 5 years. 2 in the last 20.

The quail were once so thick you couldn't walk through anywhere w/o kicking up a covey. haven't seen any since the ~mid-90s.

When the yotes moved in the cats disappeared along with the ground birds. They're like a gill net sweeping thru the property.  

It's not a few more/a few less thing, it's the difference between many  and zero.  

Completely confident I've accurately described what I saw.  

I suspect its going to get noticeably worse given the falling coyote populations

Sure, feral hogs too.  Deer harvesting too.

I believe you observed what you did, I just know for a fact it’s not the coyote to blame. It’s man.

You lowest common denominator types are easy to spot. If someone doesn’t agree with every single thing you agree with, they’re a liberal.

Must be nice living in black and white, Simple Jack

lol.

A million times yes!

Stray Cats should never be a burden on everyone else because some poor excuse for an owner let their cats roam free and get knocked up. Maybe you are one of those people?

BINGO! Cats should be kept under the same rules dogs are.

What nonsense.  I can tell who has been sucking at the trough of Outdoor Life.  Coyotes plunder entire clutches when they find them, and chicks are not able to defend themselves by flying.

Around here there has been absolutely zero development for subdivisions, and farmland is as plentiful as ever.  In the last 40 years, habitat has increased.  So has the deer population, the coyotes followed and the upland birds took a hit.

Yeah and then you end up with a worst problem coyotes. Pets disappearing when you let them out to go to potty, attacking humans especially smaller children. Coyotes are not the answer. A suppressed. 22 cal is. But this brings me back to a story. My BIL may his soul rest in peace lol. Grew up hearing and believing in an old wives tell that a cat would not cross running water. I asked him what if there was a bridge across that running water. Nope a cat still will not cross that running water over the bridge

But a man across from him had a horde of feral cats. He bought a live trap and carried them about 3 miles away on an old road across a very small bridge over running water and let them go so he basically moved his problem to make it someone else's problem. Btw that cats did walk across the bridge

Man with feral cats moved away and cats disappeared from local pest control. These were not tame cats they could get aggressive.

And here we go

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A responsible owner would keep their fucking cats on their own property to piss and shit.

Nope can say I've never had a cat crap on my vehicle. But have had them pee and crap in granddaughters sand box. Had them spray patio furniture and house to mark their territory. Had them chase people and bite them. Then they had to get rabies shots. That happen twice in a week one year here. But to be fair had two people attacked by raccoons also. I've run medical calls where feral cats have attacked and bitten adults and children. Feral cats are not cute cuddly little pets. They are wild crazy vicious animals that can hurt you. Plus they breed like rabbits. The only bird that attacks my truck are the damn cardinals. They go after their reflection in my mirrors and windows. But feral cats are more than just a nuisance, they are a health issue.

You can lol all you want, literally every single study in existence on quail will tell you the same- habitat loss is the number one reason for their decline. Predators are down the list.

I guarantee you whatever land you’re referencing looks nothing like it did in 1970. Furthermore, I guarantee you the surrounding 20 miles look like another planet compared to the 70’s.

That’s why the birds are gone. Farmers plow from ditch to ditch, fence lines are gone, native grasses and prairies are gone.

Coyotes have always been around.

Literally every single article and study says your comment above is bullshit. Stop spreading misinformation.

“It’s the same around these parts as it ever was” - says someone clueless on what bird habitat looks like.

Edit - “farmland is the same as it ever was”. Farm land doesn’t produce birds. Native habitat does, and native habitat near farmland does great.

The farmland of today looks nothing like the farm land 50 years ago. Not by a long shot.

When birds have adequate habitat, predation is minimal. They have more places to run and hide.

Literally every study says this.

kudzu is kind of a funny item to put on the list. It is indeed crazy to see it take things over.
It's also hard to believe how long it has been here already.

They don’t have to catch the birds to kill off the populations. All they have to do is eat the eggs. Pheasant and quail are ground nesters, and eggs make a delicious coyote snack.

Why do you hippies care about song birds?  People kill song birds too....

Are coyotes new to birds?

Support Native wildlife!

Left lane campers who are perpetually in debt would get my vote.

That's more than true. I've had to put down animals and took no pleasure in it what so ever. I don't hunt deer. I have and could have shot a few but didn't. Not saying I wouldn't but I'd just eaten and wasn't hungry lol. But I'll eat it and those that hunt deer are not wanna be serial killers.

They are hunters that control deer population to keep it healthy by preventing over population and spread of disease. I will shoot wild hogs and love bird hunting. BTW hogs cause billions in damage and can attack and even kill you. Plus they too breed like rabbits and can over take an area. Does killing hog make you a wanna be serial killer.  I'll shoot a coyote on site if I can. Even though it's legal here never shot a bobcat because they pretty stay to themselves.

But people here calling you a wanna be serial killer because of wild untamed viscous cats is stupid. Now house cats, barn cats ect are not feral cats. I will not shoot a cat on site. But you can tell a feral from a domestic cat pretty easily especially if they have a collar on and youve observed them for a while. Plus know your neighbors pets help. I will not shoot a pet cat that's out side. Depending on the dog I will not shoot them if they leave me alone. My wife was attacked by a neighbors pit bull. That dog disappeared. I believe with dogs all dogs they need to be restrained/under control at all times while in public unless in an area where it's safe for them and people. It kills me to see a pet dog hit by a car because owner let it run loose. But if I see a big dog roaming loose and it's coming my way. If it gets aggressive in any way I will kill it right there and you can legally do that. Has zero to do with wanting to kill it. Owners know if their pets are aggressive and still let them loose.

I blame part of the problem on people who scream serial killer if you shoot a feral cat. Because they contribute to this infestation by putting out food thinking they are feeding fluffy. The more food they get the more the feral cat population grows.

As a matter of fact. The next time those of you that are yelling serial killer think about how your steaks, chickens and pork are killed. Is one way more humane than the other. So grow up and welcome to the real world. Don't want to deal with real world problems stay in your cities or suburbs.

Come to think of it, wasn't there a news article about a coyote that just tried to snatch a 2 year old child as she got out of a mini van right in the middle of a suburban neighborhood and dad had to save his baby girl. Think about that for a moment.

Wild, feral animals are not domesticated pets. People that control the population of these animals because animal control won't are not wanna be serial killers. I do agree though that all cats and dogs should not be shot on site. Try to work with neighbors about issues like that. But if any dog is attacking livestock I believe owner has a right to deal with it and it's legal to do so. But use common sense in doing so. Be cause you've gotta live next to these people. That said they get one chance to fix issue and if they just don't respect your rights, your property rights and your animals. Then oh well your within the law to take action.

Wanna be serial killers what a joke.

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I left out the word not above in a sentence and highlighted it.

If you want to go down that rabbit hole then blame global warming, plastics, pollution, more glass buildings, wind farms, more air travel...etc.   But none of those could possibly be related to the problem, it is 100% the fault of cats which you express an intense desire to kill.

It's true and this site has more than a few that have admitted they take pleasure in killing someone's pet or laughing at stories of pets being tortured.  

Uh, no, they are relatively new, here.  They showed up in west TN, then gradually made their way into middle TN.  I hunted quail in nearby fields when I was a teenager, but that was years before we heard of any coyotes in middle TN.  Haven't seen any quail in ages.

Armadillos did the same thing, more recently.  Showing up as roadkill along I-40 in west TN, then gradually showing up as roadkill farther and farther east, until we started seeing them as roadkill on secondary roads on the western edge of Nashville.  Earlier this year, I was yelling at one as it dug around beside my house.  I had just gotten home from work, and I was debating whether to shoot the damn thing, but it decided I was making too much noise and moved off into the woods.  Raccoons have also been making themselves more of a nuisance, as they discovered my trashcans earlier this year.

Illegal to hunt songbirds in TN.

But you'll be sorry when you don't have any songbirds to eat with your snow coffee.

I've always wondered how many times arf gets subpoena'd in red flag cases.